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[Q] Multitouch and Flash?

I was just browsing some files using Root Explorer to see what we might be able to do to get Multitouch working on the ZIO. In /system/etc/permissions directory I found a file called handheld_core_hardware.xml that when I open it up has information about permissions of the device hardware and then says this.
<!-- devices with multitouch must also include
android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.xml -->
<!-- devices with full multitouch must also include
android.hardware.touchscreen.multitouch.distinct.xml -->
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I've also found the applications currently installed on the phone in the /system/app directory that has every app on the phone, Maybe we can inject some files from another phone that have Multitouch and Flash working?
I know I'm not the only one that is currently scanning this phone for things that we can "exploit" to make it better. If anyone else can think of what we can do to get Multitouch and Flash to work go ahead and give us your input and we'll get this going.

don think flash will work nativaly becase it requires a arm7 proc and I think the Zio is an ARm6 based proc..... you can get flash running through skyfire browser from what I understand though...
as far as multitouch??? dunno you may be onto something!

I am determined to make this phone work better than CricKet is willing to make it work. I know it's not a high end device but cmon my old pentium 3 gateway that had a 600mhz processor could run flash. There has to be a way that we can spoof the processor to install flash if it only allows the arm7 or higher.
I dont know if you have Root Explorer but I would reccomend it for browsing the files on the phone. I would say it is worth the 4.03 USD or 2.50 EUR. That and Uninstaller for Root to remove the bloatware.

Multitouch could be a hardware issue as well. I know the zio has a substandard capacitive touchscreen -- maybe it doesnt support multitouch.
BUT, I could be completely wrong as I am making a hypothetical assumption.

I downloaded flash here: http://www.4shared.com/file/k6SycB0R/Adobe_Flash_Player_101_1016168.htm
I then dropped it into my SD card and installed it just fine on the new cricket 2.2.1 update. It seems to be working just fine, though it does sometimes kick me out of browser pages, so I just switch to Opera Mobile 10.1 and it works on that one much better.

Sweet, trying to get this working now.

ryfly65 said:
I downloaded flash here: http://www.4shared.com/file/k6SycB0R/Adobe_Flash_Player_101_1016168.htm
I then dropped it into my SD card and installed it just fine on the new cricket 2.2.1 update. It seems to be working just fine, though it does sometimes kick me out of browser pages, so I just switch to Opera Mobile 10.1 and it works on that one much better.
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Got it to install just fine on mine too, but it causes my stock browser to FC all the time, even when just trying to type in a web address. I will have to try this with another browser.

Kyocera originally stated when the phone launched that it supported multi touch. This phone is going to have to suppport multi touch in some way or another. Maybe we could contact Kyocera to find out exactly what hardware is in this phone?

wwwilly1986 said:
Got it to install just fine on mine too, but it causes my stock browser to FC all the time, even when just trying to type in a web address. I will have to try this with another browser.
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Try using Dolphin Browser. I use HD because it goes full screen.

wwwilly1986 said:
Got it to install just fine on mine too, but it causes my stock browser to FC all the time, even when just trying to type in a web address. I will have to try this with another browser.
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Tried with dolphin mini -- nogo (FC)
Dolphin browser -- nogo (FC)
Dolphin HD -- nogo (FC)

hmm thats odd. I'll have to try this once I get my phone working again. I was messing with some cpu files then restarted my phone. well now I'm in a loop after the Kyocera logo. The cricket logo comes up and restarts from the cricket logo again. I'm currently working on getting it working again with adb and fastboot. I may end up using fastboot to flash the boot image and then run the update, it will then take me into the recovery just like it did the other day.

Mattix724 said:
I am determined to make this phone work better than CricKet is willing to make it work. I know it's not a high end device but cmon my old pentium 3 gateway that had a 600mhz processor could run flash. There has to be a way that we can spoof the processor to install flash if it only allows the arm7 or higher.
I dont know if you have Root Explorer but I would reccomend it for browsing the files on the phone. I would say it is worth the 4.03 USD or 2.50 EUR. That and Uninstaller for Root to remove the bloatware.
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Is there an alternative to root explorer that's free?
Sent from my Zio using XDA App

Check the market under productivity you should find the free equivalent.
I was able to install flash but... FC on all browsers except opera mini. I had to uninstall just to use the free xda apparently because it kept restarting. Flash isn't too huge of a deal for me, I think it might be why flash isn't included in the update
Sent from my from my rooted 2.2 no bloat Zio using XDA App

Anyone have any problems with Appbrain.
I noticed with appbrain it doesn't reconize that I have the 2.2 installed on my phone. Anyone else having the same problem? I also posted a few questions on here about a few things I noticed my phone doing but never got a response back. Guess they weren't important questions or something.
Also was wondering about SELECT DEVICE ADMINISTRATORS in the settings/location & security. What is it and why is it empty if i'm the admin of my own phone???

Something else I feel really sucks that they did with this phone.
Why the hell did Kyocera have this phone where when you set a wallpaper you always have to crop the dam thing and cut half your pic off just to set it??
I think its bull**** concidering the resolution of the phone there would be no need to limit the size of the wallpaper you set. I feel it sucks ass totally cause no matter what size I make my wallpapers I always have to cut half the pic off to set it as a wallpaper on the phone.
That little resize box sucks!! Now it may be an app I have installed on the phone but i'm having the same BS problem when typing txt messages with the keyboard missing letters and the latter just the same as if i still had the 1.6 crap on it.
I'm starting to hate this stinking phone to a point i'm about to take my hammer to it.

Mattix724 said:
Check the market under productivity you should find the free equivalent.
I was able to install flash but... FC on all browsers except opera mini. I had to uninstall just to use the free xda apparently because it kept restarting. Flash isn't too huge of a deal for me, I think it might be why flash isn't included in the update
Sent from my from my rooted 2.2 no bloat Zio using XDA App
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I had the same problem. Anything I opened once I installed the flash just FC on me till i uninstalled it. I just installed Opera brower and i'm re-installing the Flash now, i'll reply back with what I get after its all done.
Well I installed Opera browser, Re-installed Flash player and Rebooted my phone. Once running I when to adobe.com to test the flash and in the content window it states: To view this experience, you need JavaScript enabled and the latest adobe flash player installed

I have opera and it works with flash installed. I haven't really seen flash working since installation. Tried using opera to go to YouTube but it opened the app rather than embedding in the browser.
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I give up. about to for the 5th time now completely reset my phone, format my SD card, and redue the entire phone from scratch.
With flashed installed I can't even goto appbrain app market without the never ending FC happening just as Appbrain begins to load. This sucks! I really don't want to spend half the day again reinstalling all my crap back to this phone. Its been a headache sence day 1 I had it till now. Seemed to run just fine leaving the thing alone aside trying to figure out what bloatware crap other then the 2 lousy games that comes with the phone.

By the way. The bloatware is mobile web, mybackup, uno, my account, storefront, midnight bowling, ziotop10apps, and you can remove home screen tips
Sent from my from my rooted 2.2 no bloat Zio using XDA App

Mattix724 said:
Kyocera originally stated when the phone launched that it supported multi touch. This phone is going to have to suppport multi touch in some way or another. Maybe we could contact Kyocera to find out exactly what hardware is in this phone?
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I really don't remember Kyocera saying it was multitouch. I do remember some reviews of the phone saying that it was, but those are not associated with Kyocera, those are just some guys online giving their two cents on their blogs and websites.
On the actual Kyocera Zio website,for the Spring version with Froyo on it it states:
Display Specs: 3.5" 262K-color TFT LCD WVGA (480x800 pixels), capacitive touch screen navigation
Input: SWYPE - Fast and easy text input
Navigation: Track Ball navigation
Physical
It does not mention multitouch

[Q] Anybody still using stock browser?

Am I the only one who just doesn't find any of the other browsers to be worth using?
and before everyone tells me to try Opera, I don't get why everyone likes it.
To me, it looks sloppy and unorganized and I don't see an advantage over webkit.

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I Am Marino said:
Am I the only one who just doesn't find any of the other browsers to be worth using?
and before everyone tells me to try Opera, I don't get why everyone likes it.
To me, it looks sloppy and unorganized and I don't see an advantage over webkit.
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No, you are not the only one. I used Opera and Dolphin previously, and after flashing multiple ROMs, I find that the stock browser does everything I want and need just as good as Dolphin or Opera.

I've tried several browsers, but the stock browser is just fine for my uses.
Stock is less bloated too.

i'm still waiting for my first android tablet thus cannot provide an answer, but what problem does the stock browser have? I guess it must be pretty good being probably I guess (?) a derivative from google's chrome, or not?

I use dolphin hd because of bookmarks to sd and lastpass plugins.
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I have been experimenting with all the others, I just keep going back to the stock browser--It just Works!
I am playing around with Firefox now.

I like the stock browser but the ability to Titanium Backup a 3rd party browser 100% intact with all my bookmarks, settings, saved browsing history, passwords etc if I need to wipe and re-flash Android is extremely helpful.
Along with whatever features using a 3rd party browser brings, this simple ability alone makes it worth it for me to use another browser.
I know you can use Titanium Backup with the Android apps but that it can also cause instability and other issues, so that's why I don't do it.

I mostly favor the stock browser too. I can't stand Opera, it's fast but the text rendering is terrible and the interface is sloppy. I've been using Dolphin Mini over the past few days and so far I'm liking it, but I'm not about to commit to it by removing the stock browser.
Stock does do pretty much everything with no fuss, but I'll say Dolphin Mini's interface is clean and the tabs are nice. I can't afford to give up the screen space for tabs on my phone's 4 inch display, but it's not an issue on the Nook.
I've tried a bunch of other browsers as well, and so far Dolphin Mini is the only contender to replace stock.

Unless I'm missing some setting, I feel like tabbed browsing is very poorly implemented in the stock browser. Its an easy enough fix to add it to the address bar so that you don't have to click through menus.
Opera and Dolphin HD also feel (subjectively) faster to me. Dolphin HD has gestures which is nice...especially the page up and page down.
Being able to jump to the top of a page by taping the top of the screen like in Safari iOS would be nice. Scrolling is kind of a pain in the but on all of the Android browsers I'd tried.

I have Dolphin HD as a secondary browser but I still think stock is so much cleaner.

I use Opera and love it. To be fair, I never really gave the stock one much of a shot because I didn't see an easy way to use tabs (which apparently, there is.)
Opera's UI though is great IMO and it is pretty damn fast. That and syncing with my desktop is nice.

Where is the option for tabs in the stock browser?

I Am Marino said:
Where is the option for tabs in the stock browser?
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Menu > windows
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henhowc said:
Menu > windows
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I know that.
I meant like actual tabs like desktop browsers or Dolphin?

I Am Marino said:
I know that.
I meant like actual tabs like desktop browsers or Dolphin?
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Nope. The stock browser for Android < 3.0 does not have tabs. Only in Honeycomb.

Paul22000 said:
Nope. The stock browser for Android < 3.0 does not have tabs. Only in Honeycomb.
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Didn't think so, someone said something so I had to make sure.
Is there any way to port the Honeycomb browser over by any chance?

i really like opera esp once you set it to desktop user agent....

nolook said:
i really like opera esp once you set it to desktop user agent....
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The stock browser can be set to a number of different user agents, including linux desktop and mac desktop, and ie6 (shudder).

LinuxParadigm said:
The stock browser can be set to a number of different user agents, including linux desktop and mac desktop, and ie6 (shudder).
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I'm using Mac desktop, liking it personally although most differences are subtle at best.

The stock browser is my favourite too. The rest have all the bells and whistles that I don't need, which clutter up the space. If I need to access more than one website ata time, I just open another window.
Good to know I'm not the only one.

why is Android terminating opera unnecessarily ?

I spend a lot of time reading on opera mobile and if I get a call in between opera Is closed by the system and I have to load all my pages again.it's pretty annoying, is it possible to stop this force closure of opera ?
my observation -
I've noticed that if Iam doing something intensive like steaming videos or downloading stuff opera doesn't crash during calls, but instead if Iam on a simple page like google it's terminated. so Iam guessing that when Iam on a simple page for a long time the phone is underclocked automatically and opera process is killed by Android when I receive a call as it can't take all that load in an underclocked state .
Do you guys think that underclocking is what's causing these crashes ?

Yeah as long as I know. Thats android managing the RAM and clearing it when it thinks the running app is not being used
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So am guessing there is no workaround to make opera stay on no matter what other process is running ?

Why is Android terminating opera unecessarily?..
... because the fat lady sang!

Mystic38 said:
Why is Android terminating opera unecessarily?..
... because the fat lady sang!
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. Thanks that was really helpful lol

check your battery saving setting make sure they are off

May be there are apps in the play store which will prevent user defined apps getting killed by the os.
OR
Install V6 SuperCharger and add opera mobile to Bullet Proof Apps List.
If you are using franko kernel, be careful just use BulletProof. Donot supercharge or use kick ass kernelizer. (I had random reboots.)
Hope it helps.

I don't know why bulletproof apps is not working for me

Hi,
It is possible that after a period of no system resource use by Opera, the system would be terminating the application to conserve resources.
What kenel and ROM are you using? There are task manager apps available of the market in which you can mark certain apps not to be terminated. You can give those a shot as well.
Consider shifting to Chrome...i use it a lot and have not experienced the problem you have described for Opera.

I often face this issue too. While watching videos, and with multiple wondows open, Opera crashes.
Criskelo 4.04 ICS LRK v11.2, LRK Modem, speedmod k3-13 kernel, Carrier: AT&T (US)

fix permissions if you have a cwm kernel,
that doesnt fix it then download phantom of the opera, watch it and wait till the fat lady sings. No fat lady sings?
Continue, delete data, uninstall opera, reinstall,(proper way, not through recovering)
Bug reproducable? Check logcat, and submit together with bug to Opera so they can fix from Opera end.
It may be a rom issue, so list rom, versions and such as well as opra versions. lol.
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itsrijo said:
I spend a lot of time reading on opera mobile and if I get a call in between opera Is closed by the system and I have to load all my pages again.it's pretty annoying, is it possible to stop this force closure of opera ?
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I made an app for that, download it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269810

jetmarc said:
I made an app for that, download it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269810
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I tired using your app but android still kills my opera
I'm on 4. 1.2 rocket Rom reloaded

itsrijo said:
I tired using your app but android still kills my opera
I'm on 4. 1.2 rocket Rom reloaded
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Try AOSP, it's much lighter than TW and can cope with multitasking

problem with browser

Hey, since I have galmin, I noticed some weird behavior of browser. No matter what rom I'm using, it closes by itself. It's not force close, it just takes me to homescreen, like I have pressed home button. When I start it again, it takes me to google... I just want to ask, did anyone else seen something like that on their phone? I think it might be related to ram management but I can't be sure

haopened to many times..b didnt think of this way
-Rik(Rittik)

yackovsky said:
Hey, since I have galmin, I noticed some weird behavior of browser. No matter what rom I'm using, it closes by itself. It's not force close, it just takes me to homescreen, like I have pressed home button. When I start it again, it takes me to google... I just want to ask, did anyone else seen something like that on their phone? I think it might be related to ram management but I can't be sure
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With every browser or stock browser ?
Cheers

yackovsky said:
Hey, since I have galmin, I noticed some weird behavior of browser. No matter what rom I'm using, it closes by itself. It's not force close, it just takes me to homescreen, like I have pressed home button. When I start it again, it takes me to google... I just want to ask, did anyone else seen something like that on their phone? I think it might be related to ram management but I can't be sure
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Dolphin Mini? or try Maxthon...

right, i forgot to add that it happens only on stock browser, and using something else is not a solution for me i just want to know if it happens to someone else too, and why it happens. it's not like browser closes itself every day, maybe twice a week tops? so it's not bothering me that much. and no, i'm not using any scripts or battery savers.

its on stock browser only..happened to me mostly on CM7 builds idk why..now am using andro-id so its a lil less..but it deffinitely happens..and happened in froyo too..Its not regular problem but happens sometimed like 2/3 times a week..So never thought of it as a serious problem
-Rik(Rittik)

alright then, at least i know that i'm not alone with this one ;p

Happenes to me only in cm roms no problem intthe stock based ones
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Never happened to me ... I used to use stock browser alot..but never noticed it
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Happens to me as well. Andro-ID 3.3.1 no scripts.

Yes is happened also to me but only on this forum if i go on full site from stock browser and i've found the way for "fix" this issue and the ways for "fix" this issue in my case are 2:
1. Use adaway for remove the ads from internet.
2. Deactivate the javascript.
and then all works good, however don't i've understood the exact reason of this issue but is sure that too ads freeze the stock browser.
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I guess that bcause the stock browser use a too high amount of ram, so it will close itself if system is in low memory state.

force_close said:
I guess that bcause the stock browser use a too high amount of ram, so it will close itself if system is in low memory state.
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Yes...but in my case this happens only when there too ads and only on full site of this forum happens that the stock browser it closes itself then i think that too ads eat too ram and then the browser it freeze and it closes itself because if i use adaway or disable the javascripts this don't happens anymore.
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To much image to load its make stock browse lag then close its self, because browser make a big chace on system.
I always found this problem while browsing, not only on GingerBread, you can found it on ICS to.
do reset chace and cookies before browsing, and if the stock browser feel little lag than before, back to homescreen and delete it from recent app then open it again. you cant try this method on gingerbread because GB doesnt have recent app layout.
Recent app layout on ICS looks like taskmanager but not same with taskmanager.

ichaloned said:
To much image to load its make stock browse lag then close its self, because browser make a big chace on system.
I always found this problem while browsing, not only on GingerBread, you can found it on ICS to.
do reset chace and cookies before browsing, and if the stock browser feel little lag than before, back to homescreen and delete it from recent app then open it again. you cant try this method on gingerbread because GB doesnt have recent app layout.
Recent app layout on ICS looks like taskmanager but not same with taskmanager.
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Mmm...for the cache problem there tautility but sincerely don't i've tried to use for fix this issue...but now i will try.
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Ohhh !!! I m well known with this..
When u zoom in/out contineously
or open a big site with lot of adds
then it happens....it was same with me but no more with me...
Then i reinstalled my GB 2.3.6 two to three times to avoid this.
so i suggest u the same....
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Dolphin Browser

Dolphin Browser just updated and I decided to give it a go. Guys try it out. I have tons of tablets but I have never seen a browser move so smooth before . What ever they did in combination with this harware just works together.

conan1600 said:
Dolphin Browser just updated and I decided to give it a go. Guys try it out. I have tons of tablets but I have never seen a browser move so smooth before . What ever they did in combination with this harware just works together.
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I love Dolphin Browser, but I sure miss the swipe function to access bookmarks and settings.

animedreamer240 said:
I love Dolphin Browser, but I sure miss the swipe function to access bookmarks and settings.
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It is still there on my version. Swipe from the left.

jcbennett said:
It is still there on my version. Swipe from the left.
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I miss the swipe for bookmarks and the home button too.
JCBennett: what version you running? Latest update is a major one that change the whole UI.
Anyone have the old APK so I can revert back?
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conan1600 said:
Dolphin Browser just updated and I decided to give it a go. Guys try it out. I have tons of tablets but I have never seen a browser move so smooth before . What ever they did in combination with this harware just works together.
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You should get the modded Flash Player plug-in for KitKat as well if you haven't already. Runs like a charm on Dolphin too.

andillaTO said:
I miss the swipe for bookmarks and the home button too.
JCBennett: what version you running? Latest update is a major one that change the whole UI.
Anyone have the old APK so I can revert back?
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10.3.1

Old Versions Dolphin Browser Android
http://dolphin-browser-hd.en.uptodown.com/android/old

It works watching amazon prime movies once flash is installed and browser set to desktop... It's awesome.
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The version ya referring is a beta release, not a new stable. That's why not everybody got it, you need to be logged into the beta program (it's open btw). It is smoother on my N7 2k13 too, but the UI sucks a big one! The missing of the swipe bars makes it not usable for me. I hope the rethink that design, I opted out of the beta program in the meantime to get the old version back.

Itchiee said:
It works watching amazon prime movies once flash is installed and browser set to desktop... It's awesome.
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I went through the process, got that working, and... it looks terrible. Not worth it, unless you're really starved for streaming video.

v11.1 posted
Dolphin browser just released v11.1. They listened to our cries. The side swipe bookmark and control panel side bars have been restored.

Great news! Thanks for the update.

ok I have a problem with dolphin browser w/ jetpack. I've been trying to set my storage to sd. now I know the difference between my sd emulated folder and my extSDcard folder. When im in the file manager and scroll back to the 2 folders, this is what I see:
/storage/emulated/0
extSDcard
When it should be:
/storage/emulated/0
/storage/extSDcard
the problem is, where is the storage extension that leads to the sd card? im completely lost. can someone help me?
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cocobrotha1 said:
ok I have a problem with dolphin browser w/ jetpack. I've been trying to set my storage to sd. now I know the difference between my sd emulated folder and my extSDcard folder. When im in the file manager and scroll back to the 2 folders, this is what I see:
/storage/emulated/0
extSDcard
When it should be:
/storage/emulated/0
/storage/extSDcard
the problem is, where is the storage extension that leads to the sd card? im completely lost. can someone help me?
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You can't due to kitkat, the only way around it is to root and changed permissions.
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When i load a page on dolphin with flash turned it lags pretty hard, does anyone else notice lag when using flash?