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Can I flash a new ROM with 60 percent battery? I see where most ROM'S recommend flashing with a full battery. Does this affect anything like how much charge the phone thinks the battery has? Or are there other reasons to flash with a full battery?
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redger725 said:
Can I flash a new ROM with 60 percent battery? I see where most ROM'S recommend flashing with a full battery. Does this affect anything like how much charge the phone thinks the battery has? Or are there other reasons to flash with a full battery?
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It doesn't matter. I flashed at 5% once. The only thing you have to do is recalibrate your battery after.
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Wouldn't it be a risk if your phone died somehow during odin
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Wouldn't it be a risk if your phone died somehow during odin
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That would be a big problem
I tend to always flash at 100%. Just to avoid any issues. But you can flash at 60% if you really wanted to. Just do a calibration
Do it with full battery . Calibrating takes ages
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Wouldn't it be a risk if your phone died somehow during odin
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Trying to be a smart aleck, not confrontational...
If you are using odin, by definition the phone is plugged in to a USB power source. I suspect you couldn't drain the battery in that circumstance - maybe if you were plugged in, playing a video while serving up Mobile AP. But not when the screen is doing nothing but saying it's in download mode.
I have flashed through cwm with under 50%
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Wouldn't it be a risk if your phone died somehow during odin
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That's assuming every one uses odin
I just clear data and cache and flash the new rom. But I charge up to 100% so the battery reads fine.
Soccer_Dad said:
Trying to be a smart aleck, not confrontational...
If you are using odin, by definition the phone is plugged in to a USB power source. I suspect you couldn't drain the battery in that circumstance - maybe if you were plugged in, playing a video while serving up Mobile AP. But not when the screen is doing nothing but saying it's in download mode.
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Yeah thats why I said "somehow". I thought about your point while posting though and it makes plenty of sense and im pretty sure you can charge a phone no matter what state it is in (soft brick, hard brick, waterlogged ha)
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Yea
I've flashed in the range of 50 - 100%, never had a problem
like others said you just have to recalibrate your battery after.
I probably wouldn't go less than 50% though just to be safe.
It would probably be best to flash on a full battery, but I don't think its necessary. Just recalibrate and wipe battery stats and you should be fine.
Yes you can. May need to calibrate
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Would it work to just copy the battery stats file to another rom so u don't have to re calibrate everytime u install one or would that be a bad idea
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Would it work to just copy the battery stats file to another rom so u don't have to re calibrate everytime u install one or would that be a bad idea
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You don't need to calibrate, just charge it full. Battery stats are automatically wiped when you unplug with a full charge.
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Endoroid said:
You don't need to calibrate, just charge it full. Battery stats are automatically wiped when you unplug with a full charge.
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Well the new 3500 milliamp battery I got says to fully discharge and charge 4-5 times to get the most out of ur battery. Or is that just for when u first get it
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prsterero said:
Well the new 3500 milliamp battery I got says to fully discharge and charge 4-5 times to get the most out of ur battery. Or is that just for when u first get it
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Just when you first get it. Its a "break in" for batteries.
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Although I believe that its good to do a full discharge and charge every so often.
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Alright that's what I thought. Although while discharging my phone froze up and rebooted so I think ill have to recalibrate again lol
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prsterero said:
Alright that's what I thought. Although while discharging my phone froze up and rebooted so I think ill have to recalibrate again lol
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It shouldn't affect battery. I've tested it myself, battery life before and after calibration is no different. This calibration myth was debunked by a google framework engineer.
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ya I read a short thing on that. Kinda odd though. Seems like sometimes u could get a worse battery life some days compared to others. But it also seems like a good idea since u don't have to calibrate every time u do something.
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The calibration has nothing to do with the battery life, it just gives a more "exact" reading of the battery level.. I miscalibrated my battery once, and it was at 1% for about 3 hours, then finally died..
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ChaoticWeaponry said:
The calibration has nothing to do with the battery life, it just gives a more "exact" reading of the battery level.. I miscalibrated my battery once, and it was at 1% for about 3 hours, then finally died..
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Ya that happened to me once. Now I just make a point of being able to fully charge anytime I flash a rom.
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I have now been convinced that there is no reason to calibrate your battery at anytime. Google engineer pretty much put it to rest and since then I have flashed repeatedly and all that changes is the ROM , sometimes battery is bad and other times its great. CM9 is best so far. Until we get new kernals our battery won't ever be great.
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atlantanetworkguy said:
I have now been convinced that there is no reason to calibrate your battery at anytime. Google engineer pretty much put it to rest and since then I have flashed repeatedly and all that changes is the ROM , sometimes battery is bad and other times its great. CM9 is best so far. Until we get new kernals our battery won't ever be great.
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Ya reading through the comments it seems batterystats.bin has nothing to do with the displayed battery level, but rather just what is using the battery. The displayed battery level comes from kernel level
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ChaoticWeaponry said:
The calibration has nothing to do with the battery life, it just gives a more "exact" reading of the battery level.. I miscalibrated my battery once, and it was at 1% for about 3 hours, then finally died..
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Same, although not for 3 hours but 15min heavy load (720p mkv). Which normally kills 10% battery.
After calibrate it never happened again and died right after 1%
I some up this morning and saw my battery was at 88%, it has bin on charge all night how can I fox this so it charges to 100%?
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"some up"? Ok... go to CWM->Advanced->Wipe Battery Stats ... if doesn't work, do a full wipe or reflash ROM, you are using...
Woke* auto correct lol, and o do this after every ROM flash and this wouldn't affect that anyway, its not done it before, only to 98% or something but I read that it does this it will reach 100% the stop charging to preserve the battery, but dropping to 88% is a bit extreme I think I'm losing like an hour of battery life
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calum96 said:
Woke* auto correct lol, and o do this after every ROM flash and this wouldn't affect that anyway, its not done it before, only to 98% or something but I read that it does this it will reach 100% the stop charging to preserve the battery, but dropping to 88% is a bit extreme I think I'm losing like an hour of battery life
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This is a calibration problem caused exactly by you wiping your battery stats, you need to leave them alone and after each flash do a full empty to full charge cycle so the stats can provide proper calibration statistics, I have never wiped battery stats in 2 years of owning my phone
I always do this after a wipe, wait till fully charged>wipe stats>discharge fully>recharge fully
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Ok, I know the point you are making but I personally think it does more harm than good.... Does it drop straight down the moment you remove the charger?
I don't know if it might be a battery problem, or if the CM9 Nightly build I'm currently on holds a charge really well, but sometimes I charge my phone up to 100%, then after about 30 minutes of continuous, non-stop usage, the battery is still at 99%.
Is this odd behaviour or is it normal?
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Ok, I know the point you are making but I personally think it does more harm than good.... Does it drop straight down the moment you remove the charger?
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No it only charges to 88% unless I remove charger then plug it back in again then it will charge to 100%, I think its because the phone charges to 100% then drains then charges, but I think its failing to start charging once it drops to a certain limit (say 10%) so normally it would charge to 100% drop to 90% then charge to 100% so it doesn't damage the battery, but as I said I think its failing to start charging again so it just keeps falling... I need a fix for this? And yes it is a cm9 base
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Try battery calibration from the play store
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Try battery calibration from the play store
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28544220
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slaphead20 said:
This is a calibration problem caused exactly by you wiping your battery stats, you need to leave them alone and after each flash do a full empty to full charge cycle so the stats can provide proper calibration statistics, I have never wiped battery stats in 2 years of owning my phone
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I've always been wondering: is it possible to "damage" the battery or lose some of it's juice by doing wipe battery stats to many times?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28544220
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ooooh thanks that worked for me:laugh:
battery quick use up
my battery up to 1850 map... y the battery still quick use up while i ady is ICS...
My battery has been sluggish right after updating 4.0.4. Right after restarting my device, i left only 20% of battery instead of 90% before restarting. Im getting sick n tired of samsung. Thers always a problem after software update. Im wondering wether they ever tested their software before releasing it to consumer. LOUSY
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safuan7822 said:
My battery has been sluggish right after updating 4.0.4. Right after restarting my device, i left only 20% of battery instead of 90% before restarting. Im getting sick n tired of samsung. Thers always a problem after software update. Im wondering wether they ever tested their software before releasing it to consumer. LOUSY
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Calibrate your battery.
Let it empty untill blackout. Take out battery for 2 min then put it back again, and charge it to full, do not push the on button while charging.
My suggestion is to install and SPYCPU podesiš processor clock so you would not spend the battery more than they need. We also have a large selection governo, naćićeš best balance of performance and battery life.
Thanks jonpaslim! i will try to do that and will update the results
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Battery life better
safuan7822 said:
My battery has been sluggish right after updating 4.0.4. Right after restarting my device, i left only 20% of battery instead of 90% before restarting. Im getting sick n tired of samsung. Thers always a problem after software update. Im wondering wether they ever tested their software before releasing it to consumer. LOUSY
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After i updated to 4.0.4 baterry life was significantly better. try using carat, it works
I found this on a site somewheres ......
1.turn on aeroplane mode
2.turn off device
3.take out battery for 10 seconds
4.turn on device
5.wait for everything to load
6.turn off aeroplane mode
Hi dickwyn, thanks for your reply.
Done with the installation. But it seems not doing anything.. As in 'nothing to report' is that normal?
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safuan7822 said:
Hi dickwyn, thanks for your reply.
Done with the installation. But it seems not doing anything.. As in 'nothing to report' is that normal?
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Install CpuSpy from playstore.
Check if ur device goes in deep sleep mode.. If not then follow these steps.. :-
1.turn on aeroplane mode
2.turn off device
3.take out battery for 10 seconds
4.turn on device
5.wait for everything to load
6.turn off aeroplane mode
Thanks.
Done everything. But it messed up with my time and date. It went all the way back to year 2000.. Is that normal?
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safuan7822 said:
Thanks.
Done everything. But it messed up with my time and date. It went all the way back to year 2000.. Is that normal?
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Settings>Time &Date>Use Network Provider Values..
which rom are you on?
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Baz77,
Im not sure which rom tho. Well i hv totally no idea. Its a stndard rom i guess. Im just a normal user that need to hv the phone working like it used to be. Lol
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The total of 1 week I was on both OS builds I had these issues that I identified to be the battery:
Facebook
GPSD
and then not going into deep sleep (the phone gets warm)
Badass Battery (now another name, but you can still search Badass battery) and BBS (Better Battery Stats) helped me.
Thanks zkye.
So far i hv been using pretty alot of apps. Been using carat,netqin and cpu spy. Well the batt is still i would say average.. Im wondering how to read this thing on cpu spy. Especially the deep sleep graph. Is it sufficient? Or am i doing the wrong thing or what?
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Baz77,
Im not sure which rom tho. Well i hv totally no idea. Its a stndard rom i guess. Im just a normal user that need to hv the phone working like it used to be. Lol
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You can check version in settings, then about phone in bottom Guess you are on stock. Be carefull wiping, factory resetting and deleting large files as kernel can trigger a bug in emmc chip, corrupting partitions.
good you started analysing root causes. Always best case.
now if you dont care for warrantee you can follow directions from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29139461 to get back to starting point of install. Or to install the awesome speedmod kernel.
Alteratively you can add apps one by one and together with battery usage analysed you can fin culprits. With tools like betterbatterystats, cpu spy and badassbattery monitor
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did you try re-calibrating your battery?
Hi xfox,
Done with calibrating as in let it empty, take out the batt for a while then turn it on again. It seems okay for now. Is there any other way instead? Im sorry for asking this stupid question again and again. And thank to all of ya for replying my so called newby question. Lol.
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Thanks baz,
How i wish i could use those speedmod kernel and so on. Well im quite afraid to root it cuz im not too sure that im gonna use this phone for a long time. As the phone value will decrease if i void the warranty. But thx for replying my post tho. As for now im still monitoring my batt behaviour.
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jonpaslim said:
Calibrate your battery.
Let it empty untill blackout. Take out battery for 2 min then put it back again, and charge it to full, do not push the on button while charging.
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this done it for my brothers Note
thanks
Galaxy Note problem
When I got my Galaxy Note, the battery used to last for 10 hrs on GB. After upgrading to ICS, that time dropped to 8 hrs. And after ICS updates, it went down to less than 4 hrs since it was discharging much fatser than charging, and it was the same whether I used the original power charger or direct USB cable.
The original charger is an adapter + USB cable.
Everything went fine when i changed the USB and used the one originally used to charge the Sony 3D glasses.
Now it's charging normally and the discharge rate is around 8% /hr with WIFI and mobile data ON.
Hope it will work for you.
I just flashed CM10 Experimental build 02/11/13, and it is stuck on the boot logo. I have tried relocking the bootloader, running the RUU, unlocking the bootloader, and reflashing CM but it still won't work.
EDIT: Now, I can't even boot into HBOOT!
Did you flash the boot IMG when u flashed or are you s-off
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Sorry for the late response, but yes, I did everything necessary for a device with S-ON. I can now confirm it's bricked.
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How did you brick it? It's almost impossible if you flashed the rom than fastboot flashed the boot.img, wipe cache and dalvik.
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You didn't brick it. CM10 for the Vivid has boot issues. Keep flashing the boot.img and ROM while wiping caches and factory resetting repeatedly until it boots.
Well, the device does not turn on at all. No recovery, no bootloader, no fastboot, nothing.
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Idk how you guys have problems I have never had 1 problem flashing ROMs I bet this guy was on a gingerbread ROM and flashed cm10
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No, actually. I was on the previous build of CM10
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Anyways, you're on a different phone. Issues are different from phone to phone
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Is your problem solved yet?
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Nope, not yet, sadly Any help is appreciated
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At what point does your phone reboots? At the white HTC screen or at the Cyanogenmod boot animation?
Have you tried removing the battery for 30 seconds, putting it back in, waiting 10 seconds and then the bootloader button sequence?
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Actually, my phone doesn't boot, at all. So, it would be impossible to say when it stops working...
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Does your orange light up when you plug it? Could you try another battery? I heard battery durability was short on some devices.
If another battery doesn't work, I'm afraid I'm out of options...
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No light turns on, nothing.
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Out of options
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No light turns on, nothing.
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I'm out of options... Sorry
Dead battery
I would suspect the battery has cratered. The symptoms are identical, doesn't boot, doesn't light when plugged in, etc.
1. Get an external battery charger. I have had good luck with one by Anker on Amazon
2. Charge your battery in the external system.
3. Pop it back into your phone and turn it on.
When you go to Amazon to buy that charger, buy yourself a spare battery. My favorite system is to keep a charged battery with me, swap it in when the phone battery gets too low, and get that battery into a charger. Total phone down time, less than 1 minute. And for those occasions when the battery takes a dump like yours did, you have a charged backup waiting.
cmerlyn
killer98 said:
Anyways, you're on a different phone. Issues are different from phone to phone
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ZeRo2o9 said:
Idk how you guys have problems I have never had 1 problem flashing ROMs I bet this guy was on a gingerbread ROM and flashed cm10
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Just pointing this out....ignore tapatalk signatures as many people have more than one device...Zero actually has his own dev thread here for the vivid for miui
I don't really have much to offer help wise...but the vivid is known for corrupting batteries if they die while the phone is not booted up...or at least jot being able to charge a dead battery...try getting a new battery and see if that helps...best of luck to you...hope you figure it out...its a shame when an expensive device becomes nothing more than a paper weight...if I get any other ideas I'll let you know...
Edit: try the option listed right above my post...didn't see that lol
Worst case scenario...you can try selling it for $25-75 depending on physical condition...some people love buying broken phones cause they know how to fix them...then you can put that money towards a new phone
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Sounds like you've taken several steps to try to resolve your issue. Can you say with 100% certainty which recovery was last installed and whether that recovery flashed correctly? The symptoms sound like a discharged battery with no charge support in recovery, or a corrupted recovery image.
These are the steps I would take. Obtain a charged battery. This could be a standalone battery charger, where you remove the battery from your device and plug it into the charger. The charger should indicate the current charge condition of the battery and when it is fully charged. Or, buy/borrow a battery you know to have a charge. There are inexpensive batteries @ Amazon that would suffice for this effort.
If, with a known charged battery you can't get into bootloader, you have bigger issues. If you can, then find the instructions on the forum to get back to stock and start over.
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Sounds like you've taken several steps to try to resolve your issue. Can you say with 100% certainty which recovery was last installed and whether that recovery flashed correctly? The symptoms sound like a discharged battery with no charge support in recovery, or a corrupted recovery image.
These are the steps I would take. Obtain a charged battery. This could be a standalone battery charger, where you remove the battery from your device and plug it into the charger. The charger should indicate the current charge condition of the battery and when it is fully charged. Or, buy/borrow a battery you know to have a charge. There are inexpensive batteries @ Amazon that would suffice for this effort.
If, with a known charged battery you can't get into bootloader, you have bigger issues. If you can, then find the instructions on the forum to get back to stock and start over.
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Last recovery I flashed was TWRP, it flashed perfectly... and I guess I'll look for a new battery
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