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Phone idle and cell stand by 75%

Why does Phone idle and cell stand by use 75% of my battery??
4G is off.
What is this phone doing more then my og Droid??
How can I get longer battery life??
About 4 hours and im at 20% battery life.
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It is a fluke of the phone. Some say it is because the display uses so little power but I really don't buy that. I think the reporting is not correct.
Try this. Copy your data from your external sd card to you laptop and save it where you can find it. Take your card out and format it on your computer (fat32) if you have an adapter, if no skip to next step.
Insert card back into phone power up and format sd card in the phone. Plug phone into computer and copy the files you moved back onto the card. I found a drastic improvement by formatting my card (but I also changed it)
Make sure you have nothing running that will run your battery down. If the sd card format does not work I would exchange it. After swapping out cards and formatting I got 23 hours out of a charge on normal use (7hours idle while sleeping). I went to bed at 10:30 with 13% and woke up 7 hours later with 6 percent. I can't really ask for more.

Is it really using 75% or is that what is say under the batt stats? Right now 10% of my battery is gone and of that 10% the stats are 48% is cell standby another 48 to phone idle and 4 to the OS. I saw a mention of one of the blur apps that consumes alot of data, you should probably disable it or not use it, not sure the specific name but it was one of the social media things.

75% of battery stats from fresh to dead.
I am not using any of the social networks.
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Every Bionic shows up this way for some reason. I don't think anyone has an answer.

My Samsung eats up like 50% in idle ,and the problem is not the SD,i'd formated my SD a few days ago and no improvement
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Perhaps I am wrong, but this is how I understand this situation..
The phone tells us the distribution of power drained over uses. It also charts, over time, how much power is being drained. These are very different quantities. That can be seen with a simple example.
Suppose charge my phone while it is off. Once it his 100% battery life, I turn it on and do nothing. Let's assume I don't allow anything to update automatically or work in the background. After 1 minute of not using the phone at all, I check the battery information. More or less "100%" of the battery consumption will have been something like "cell standby" or "idle". All of the power my phone has eaten was eaten by those uses. But, that doesn't mean it ate a lot. To know how much it ate, I look at the top line graph of juice over time. These two things aren't the same.
(1) Am I glaringly wrong? (2) Does that make sense?
Caveat: new Bionic owner

ergosumcausa said:
Perhaps I am wrong, but this is how I understand this situation..
The phone tells us the distribution of power drained over uses. It also charts, over time, how much power is being drained. These are very different quantities. That can be seen with a simple example.
Suppose charge my phone while it is off. Once it his 100% battery life, I turn it on and do nothing. Let's assume I don't allow anything to update automatically or work in the background. After 1 minute of not using the phone at all, I check the battery information. More or less "100%" of the battery consumption will have been something like "cell standby" or "idle". All of the power my phone has eaten was eaten by those uses. But, that doesn't mean it ate a lot. To know how much it ate, I look at the top line graph of juice over time. These two things aren't the same.
(1) Am I glaringly wrong? (2) Does that make sense?
Caveat: new Bionic owner
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Finally. Someone who understand math. Bravo, sir, bravo.

unremarked said:
Finally. Someone who understand math. Bravo, sir, bravo.
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To make this more clear for anyone else. If you aren't using your phone for anything, you want "idle" to account for 100% of your use, otherwise you've got some background processes you should deal with.

So your saying that its similar to "System Idle Process" in M$ Windows task manager? That would make sense for the idle phone but what about the cell standby?

I have been wondering about the difference between the two as well. By the name they sound like they could be the same thing really. I mean the phone is standing by is it not idling as well. Or does standby mean processes that are alive in memory? Does this use power? Is this what "standby" describes?

I believe "Cell Standby" is when you phone is searching for towers. Any phone is normally constantly searching and finding towers. If I am wrong please correct me.
The IDLE is the percent of time sitting idle compared to the percent of processes actually being used like the android system processes. Once again correct me if I am wrong.

Battery virtually dropping, hardware or software problem?

Hello,
for months it has been happening that when the battery usually reaches 25% (but not always sometimes even 40ish) the battery indicator drops to 19% and it could either remain stuck at that value until the charge actually drops below 19% and continue the usual drop or it will rapidly drop to lower values in big steps like (19->10->4) in minutes to finally actually automatically power off. The strange thing is that it's all fake! When I power the phone again the % will go back to where it should be before this virtual drop happened and continue its usual drop, it always worked until today when for the first time it continued the "game" non-stop until the battery ended the actual charge (for hours)! You have to consider that i was in a place in the mountains where the gsm coverage was very low/non existent so it could be connected. But it got me worried because it couldn't control it!
Apart from a solution I'm asking also what the reason could be. It could seem like a battery problem but why would the phone actually recognize the actual charge after it powers off and I restart it ? Seems like a software problem (battery driver maybe?). But I wouldn't exclude that it could be the battery maybe when the charge gets low the voltage drops dramatically under stress to a point where the phone thinks its almost empty.
I'm using cm7.2 kang 119 with standard kernel.

Have you tried wiping the battery stats..?
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-sandro- said:
Hello,
for months it has been happening that when the battery usually reaches 25% (but not always sometimes even 40ish) the battery indicator drops to 19% and it could either remain stuck at that value until the charge actually drops below 19% and continue the usual drop or it will rapidly drop to lower values in big steps like (19->10->4) in minutes to finally actually automatically power off. The strange thing is that it's all fake! When I power the phone again the % will go back to where it should be before this virtual drop happened and continue its usual drop, it always worked until today when for the first time it continued the "game" non-stop until the battery ended the actual charge (for hours)! You have to consider that i was in a place in the mountains where the gsm coverage was very low/non existent so it could be connected. But it got me worried because it couldn't control it!
Apart from a solution I'm asking also what the reason could be. It could seem like a battery problem but why would the phone actually recognize the actual charge after it powers off and I restart it ? Seems like a software problem (battery driver maybe?). But I wouldn't exclude that it could be the battery maybe when the charge gets low the voltage drops dramatically under stress to a point where the phone thinks its almost empty.
I'm using cm7.2 kang 119 with standard kernel.
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So you say it's done that for a while... obviously it's not possible to pinpoint an app. I guess then you have some funky cruft buildup (say, a lot of rom flashes and some settings getting squiffy) or your battery's dying. I know for sure that the rather excellent Battery Widget Reborn can give a health check on the battery as part of the widget (although I dunno if it's GB compatible). The second solution may be to try a clean wipe. It's drastic, yes, but can clean up any lingering problems if you've been updating for a long time without the occasional wipe. If you haven't...then I dunno.
xExabyte said:
Have you tried wiping the battery stats..?
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Baaaaaad advice. That's just a placebo and doesn't do anything. So please don't recommend it.

Dekudan said:
Baaaaaad advice. That's just a placebo and doesn't do anything. So please don't recommend it.
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What do you mean by this? Don't be rude, just help out if you can.
OP: is it possible you update the rom/kernel?
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The thing is it doesn't happen at every single charge! That's confusing! Maybe I'll try to update to #135 and install symbiosis kernel and see.

coolacrille said:
What do you mean by this? Don't be rude, just help out if you can.
OP: is it possible you update the rom/kernel?
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I'm not trying to be rude. It's just that battery stats are reset after every reboot, so wiping them does nothing. It's also easier to be blunt to get a message across.

-sandro- said:
Hello,
for months it has been happening that when the battery usually reaches 25% (but not always sometimes even 40ish) the battery indicator drops to 19% and it could either remain stuck at that value until the charge actually drops below 19% and continue the usual drop or it will rapidly drop to lower values in big steps like (19->10->4) in minutes to finally actually automatically power off. The strange thing is that it's all fake! When I power the phone again the % will go back to where it should be before this virtual drop happened and continue its usual drop, it always worked until today when for the first time it continued the "game" non-stop until the battery ended the actual charge (for hours)! You have to consider that i was in a place in the mountains where the gsm coverage was very low/non existent so it could be connected. But it got me worried because it couldn't control it!
Apart from a solution I'm asking also what the reason could be. It could seem like a battery problem but why would the phone actually recognize the actual charge after it powers off and I restart it ? Seems like a software problem (battery driver maybe?). But I wouldn't exclude that it could be the battery maybe when the charge gets low the voltage drops dramatically under stress to a point where the phone thinks its almost empty.
I'm using cm7.2 kang 119 with standard kernel.
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dude i have sale some days it drops 2 a 5 times and some times not at all....

reggiexp said:
dude i have sale some days it drops 2 a 5 times and some times not at all....
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by "sale" you meant "same"?

I have similar problems...
Mine force closes 1 out of 7 charges at a random percentage...today it was at 53%...it shows cc% but in reality the battery is drained out...I am not sure what is the problem...this showed up after I inhaled wiui 2.5.25, other than that I have minor issues with this rom...I really like it...only if I could make the radio work...

sysex said:
I have similar problems...
Mine force closes 1 out of 7 charges at a random percentage...today it was at 53%...it shows cc% but in reality the battery is drained out...I am not sure what is the problem...this showed up after I inhaled wiui 2.5.25, other than that I have minor issues with this rom...I really like it...only if I could make the radio work...
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What kernel? Bb? Ril? Obviously your problem started when flashing wiui, have an idea what to try.....?
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coolacrille said:
What kernel? Bb? Ril? Obviously your problem started when flashing wiui, have an idea what to try.....?
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Bb=725 ril=0218(10b) the kernel is the latest OC kernel from temasek (any suggestions there, is there a better one for wiui/miui roms?).
I'll do a battery wipe after a full charge and see what happens next...

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[Q] Sudden decrease in battery life without software change

Hello!
Please allow me to introduce myself - I am a long-time xda forum lurker, who has not had the chance to post due to the fact that I am neither an expert, nor have had any questions that weren't covered by a simple search.
However, the day before an interesting thing happened to my P880. Without updating the software, due to the fact that my operator does not support it, battery life suddenly plunged significantly. In fact currently when charging, it discharges faster than it charges. So the only way to use it is to turn it off, charge it and then use it for a couple of hours.
As I said my software is stock and I haven't changed it for almost a year since I got the phone. It's version is "LG-P880-V10h-NOV-19-2012" with 2.6.39.4 Kernel.
That is what makes this issue even more interesting in my opinion, I cannot find a cause for it.
I note that the phone is warm to touch, so something is wake-locking it. However I am not an expert, but I will do my best to provide additional information if I can.
Thank you very much!

INP said:
Hello!
Please allow me to introduce myself - I am a long-time xda forum lurker, who has not had the chance to post due to the fact that I am neither an expert, nor have had any questions that weren't covered by a simple search.
However, the day before an interesting thing happened to my P880. Without updating the software, due to the fact that my operator does not support it, battery life suddenly plunged significantly. In fact currently when charging, it discharges faster than it charges. So the only way to use it is to turn it off, charge it and then use it for a couple of hours.
As I said my software is stock and I haven't changed it for almost a year since I got the phone. It's version is "LG-P880-V10h-NOV-19-2012" with 2.6.39.4 Kernel.
That is what makes this issue even more interesting in my opinion, I cannot find a cause for it.
I note that the phone is warm to touch, so something is wake-locking it. However I am not an expert, but I will do my best to provide additional information if I can.
Thank you very much!
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First of all download BBS and see what is keeping your phone awake. If you say that the phone is always warm than that wakelock seems as logical culprit. Something is keeping your phone stuck on high frequency and keeping it from deep sleep. Use BBS, you will know more after that..

brunek said:
First of all download BBS and see what is keeping your phone awake. If you say that the phone is always warm than that wakelock seems as logical culprit. Something is keeping your phone stuck on high frequency and keeping it from deep sleep. Use BBS, you will know more after that..
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The awake time is 9%, similar to what it was before, however the prone has been woken 872 times by System(radio). At the moment the phone lasts for 3 hours at most, while being charged at the same time.

Check your radio settings,maybe it is connecting to network all the time. Also you can freeze it..
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brunek said:
Check your radio settings,maybe it is connecting to network all the time. Also you can freeze it..
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Thank you for your quick response,
I force stopped the radio from the applications, and I had tried that before as well, however there is no noticeable difference, I can still see % drop by the minute.

Maybe it is battery malfunction..
Can you provide a dump from BBS?
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radio isn't fm radio. it's needed for signal, dont freeze it

Issue is resolved by removing the external microSD card.
Now that was unexpected...
I haven't tested it with another SD card if the problem was in the card or in the phone itself.

INP said:
Issue is resolved by removing the external microSD card.
Now that was unexpected...
I haven't tested it with another SD card if the problem was in the card or in the phone itself.
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is there any songs/videos in the SD card? i think the problem is with android's mediascannerservice. happened a lot. try checking the micro sd card for errors using windows.

gingerboy92 said:
is there any songs/videos in the SD card? i think the problem is with android's mediascannerservice. happened a lot. try checking the micro sd card for errors using windows.
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It can't open the micro sd card from Windows. It simply isn't there.
Yes there were videos on it.

INP said:
It can't open the micro sd card from Windows. It simply isn't there.
Yes there were videos on it.
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well, there's your problem. it was the mediascannerservice on android. the thing that scans the storage for media files for your music player, video player etc. it will go insane when your memory card is corrupted or damaged, which looks like what has happened to your memory card.

gingerboy92 said:
well, there's your problem. it was the mediascannerservice on android. the thing that scans the storage for media files for your music player, video player etc. it will go insane when your memory card is corrupted or damaged, which looks like what has happened to your memory card.
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Indeed! Thank you for the information.
Please lock / delete the thread,

[Q] Massive battery drain

Hello everyone
I really would appreciate some help. I have the Samsung Galaxy Note i9220 bought from Finland. The battery life never was really good, but then the phone started to experience some heavy battery drain, I can't say exactly when or if after I did something. I am running the standard firmware with the newest update. Also the battery icon keeps flashing now and then. I thought that buying the MPJ 7000mAh battery would be the game changer, but the battery life is as bad as with the regular battery. I recovered the phone to factory settings, didn't help, tried to shift the MicroUSB-port connector in case it was contacting the frames and cleaning the port, didn't help, tried to remove the MicroSD card since I read something that card formatted with a older firmware could have some problems with the newer firmware, didn't help. It seems that there is no other way to stop the battery drain. Maybe my unit is just exceptionally bad? Thanks for any help.
Best regards
Northlogic VFX

Preliminary report showed that removing the MicroSD card enhanced battery life. Though still there is the problem of the battery icon flashing. My phone cannot enter the Deep Sleep state, and I think this is the reason and if it could, the battery life should be much longer.

I have seen this on the Note N7000 when the USB daughter board has been replaced with a cheap copy.
Do you also have problems with WiFi and/or Voice network signal strength either being low or fluctuating a lot (i.e. dropping then re-establishing connection)?
Do you have problems with the microphone? E.G. people not being able to hear you clearly?
The battery drain, microphone and/or signal problems were symptoms of a cheap copy daughter board.
Quite easy to fix though, get Samsung to replace daughter board (£35 UK service centre) or buy an original on the interweb and fit it yourself.

FabreFaction said:
I have seen this on the Note N7000 when the USB daughter board has been replaced with a cheap copy.
Do you also have problems with WiFi and/or Voice network signal strength either being low or fluctuating a lot (i.e. dropping then re-establishing connection)?
Do you have problems with the microphone? E.G. people not being able to hear you clearly?
The battery drain, microphone and/or signal problems were symptoms of a cheap copy daughter board.
Quite easy to fix though, get Samsung to replace daughter board (£35 UK service centre) or buy an original on the interweb and fit it yourself.
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Hey FabreFaction, thanks for your message. The problems with my Wi-Fi has been hard to tell apart whether it's a connection problem in the phone, or just that the fact that the places I have been have had fluctuating connections. But I don't really have had any serious microphone and signal problems. I will be draining my battery out and fulfilling it to 100 percent and then check out the battery life in my normal usage. After removing the MicroSD card for test the battery life has been significantly longer.

Northlogic VFX said:
Hey FabreFaction, thanks for your message. The problems with my Wi-Fi has been hard to tell apart whether it's a connection problem in the phone, or just that the fact that the places I have been have had fluctuating connections. But I don't really have had any serious microphone and signal problems. I will be draining my battery out and fulfilling it to 100 percent and then check out the battery life in my normal usage. After removing the MicroSD card for test the battery life has been significantly longer.
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It seems odd that the SD card would drain your battery significantly.
Difficult to comment on as I have run my N7000 with an SD card from day one.
The best thing you can do is install Better Battery Stats and post the log on the XDA thread for the experts to analyse for you.
They may be able to identify what is causing the drain you are experiencing.
It's worth reading through the OP on the thread before you get stuck into BBS.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809

I installed the Better Battery Stats now. It said that I should gather information for a few days. How do I actually post the log for others to see?

Northlogic VFX said:
I installed the Better Battery Stats now. It said that I should gather information for a few days. How do I actually post the log for others to see?
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It's all explained on the BBS thread.
If you're not sure after reading the OP, post a question on the thread.
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Sure thing, thank you!

So I have found that it is difficult to get the connection to the USB-port (the cord needs to be in pretty exact position for order to work), is this also an effect of the cheap USB daughter board copy? It should not be the cord, since it was pretty new when I bought it.

I too have same problem of heavy battery drain. Infact, my screen starts fluctuating as it reaches 40-30% mark and blackout all of a sudden. As i plug-in my charger it shows 0% battery.

AV69 said:
I too have same problem of heavy battery drain. Infact, my screen starts fluctuating as it reaches 40-30% mark and blackout all of a sudden. As i plug-in my charger it shows 0% battery.
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I had exactly the same thing, the reported charge would drop from 50% to 2% in five minutes or after a restart. I replaced the battery and this completely solved it. I think the battery just could provide enough Ooomph when it was needed.
(FYI I bought a replacement on ebay for £4.99 claiming 3250 mAh "KinPS" battery. No idea what the real capacity is but it lasts easily all day on a charge now and no longer drops quickly).

try another microSD
The 16GB card I had in my Galaxy Note was around 4-5 years old, had been written to A LOT. It was a standard Sandisk card.
I was having all sorts of problems with it freezing up my phone on certain apps (I keep a lot of them on my ext card). After
moving a couple apps that were freezing back to the internal card, the problems stopped, but I was still having battery drain
issues. (back of phone would get hot, would not go to deep sleep etc).
I bought a NEW microSD, same size and copied everything from one card to the new card and haven't had any issues.
Battery life is improved. One other thing. The original card was also having issues with it working in my PC. Sometimes it
would read, other times it would not.
Might try a new card see if it helps also.

[Q] How do I solve my terrible battery performance?

I got a refurbished AT&T Galaxy Note 3 about a month or 2 ago. From the very beginning the battery has been awful. On a full charge--which takes at least 6 hours--I can get about 4 hours of regular use (i.e. no games, just web, maybe some maps, email, turning off Wifi & GPS when not in use, lowering the brightness, etc.) and sometimes up to 8 if I don't use it at all. If I play a game or listen to an audiobook, I get maybe 2-3 hours. Even if it's plugged in to the charger, the battery will slowly drain if I'm using it. The phone is also very often really hot.
As suggested on other threads about battery problems, I've downloaded Battery Doctor to help close open apps--and that's given me a tiny bit more time, but nothing substantial. I've also been using GSam to see what the problem might be. 25% is used by the Android Sytem, 22% is used by the screen, 11% by facebook (which I've started force quitting), 8% by the Kernel, 8% by the phone radio, etc.
Nearly everyone says what a great phone this is, but I just find my self seriously limiting how much I use it--which defeats the purpose of even having it.
Any ideas of what's going on? Anything else I should be looking at or trying? Between this and the fact that I can't root (I have KK), I'm about ready to sell it and go back to an iPhone.
Thanks.

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I got a refurbished AT&T Galaxy Note 3 about a month or 2 ago. From the very beginning the battery has been awful. On a full charge--which takes at least 6 hours--I can get about 4 hours of regular use (i.e. no games, just web, maybe some maps, email, turning off Wifi & GPS when not in use, lowering the brightness, etc.) and sometimes up to 8 if I don't use it at all. If I play a game or listen to an audiobook, I get maybe 2-3 hours. Even if it's plugged in to the charger, the battery will slowly drain if I'm using it. The phone is also very often really hot.
As suggested on other threads about battery problems, I've downloaded Battery Doctor to help close open apps--and that's given me a tiny bit more time, but nothing substantial. I've also been using GSam to see what the problem might be. 25% is used by the Android Sytem, 22% is used by the screen, 11% by facebook (which I've started force quitting), 8% by the Kernel, 8% by the phone radio, etc.
Nearly everyone says what a great phone this is, but I just find my self seriously limiting how much I use it--which defeats the purpose of even having it.
Any ideas of what's going on? Anything else I should be looking at or trying? Between this and the fact that I can't root (I have KK), I'm about ready to sell it and go back to an iPhone.
Thanks.
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You may have a bad battery, pop the back off and replace it!

First and foremost, try and figure out what might be hogging up all your battery.
Go to System Settings -> General Tab -> Battery
Look at this list of apps that are eating your battery up. The top 3 are usually 'Android System', 'Android OS', and 'Screen', depending on your current usage (unless you have been loving up a game or other resource intensive app recently, in which case it will be up top). If you see an app that seems to be eating away at it constantly, even when you aren't usuing it, try uninstalling it.
You might also have a problem with wake lock (where an app, or apps keeps your phone from going into its deep sleep). If your phone is rooted you can get the wake lock detector from the app store and use it to figure out what is causing the problem.
If its a system app that casuing wake lock, or just eating through battery like there is no tomorrow, it might be a known bug someone can help you with.
Also a thing to consider is the health of the battery. You say its a refurbished phone, who knows what that battery has been through (if its not a new one, no idea if they do that for refurbs). Its not a cheap option, but if all else fails getting a new battery might be the way to go. Also if no else fails there is as they say the nuclear option, as in doing a good factory reset once or twice.
Hope all that helps

conanh said:
I got a refurbished AT&T Galaxy Note 3 about a month or 2 ago. From the very beginning the battery has been awful. On a full charge--which takes at least 6 hours--I can get about 4 hours of regular use (i.e. no games, just web, maybe some maps, email, turning off Wifi & GPS when not in use, lowering the brightness, etc.) and sometimes up to 8 if I don't use it at all. If I play a game or listen to an audiobook, I get maybe 2-3 hours. Even if it's plugged in to the charger, the battery will slowly drain if I'm using it. The phone is also very often really hot.
As suggested on other threads about battery problems, I've downloaded Battery Doctor to help close open apps--and that's given me a tiny bit more time, but nothing substantial. I've also been using GSam to see what the problem might be. 25% is used by the Android Sytem, 22% is used by the screen, 11% by facebook (which I've started force quitting), 8% by the Kernel, 8% by the phone radio, etc.
Nearly everyone says what a great phone this is, but I just find my self seriously limiting how much I use it--which defeats the purpose of even having it.
Any ideas of what's going on? Anything else I should be looking at or trying? Between this and the fact that I can't root (I have KK), I'm about ready to sell it and go back to an iPhone.
Thanks.
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Battery drain on Kitkat is a common problem, but that is ridiculous. Sounds like to me that you have a messed up battery. You should be able to call Att and have them send you out a new battery. Or Samsung might have to send you out one. I don't know who, but the battery should be covered under the warranty of the phone.
EDIT : Also, check if the battery has any bumps, dents, etc.

Might try turning off location services as well
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