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I'm on the edge of pulling the trigger for a NC. Since the NC was never intended to be a full fledge tablet I'm sure there are some annoyances from you rooted users. Once you get everything setup what are the cons? I have a rooted Samsung Vibrant running ClockWork on Team Whiskey, Nero ROM. What I'm reading I don't think I will go to Froyo since it is definitely usable but I get annoyed by such things like having to turn on/off screen to fix screen lag. I will most likely just keep it rooted from stock. The reason I'm interested in it is:
Lightweight, small form factor
Great resolution
Of course price.
I have two gripes:
1. No physical back button
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
Both of these are hardware issues and not related to rooting.
I don't use the in-store feature so not having that doesn't bother me.
Do it, you can always unroot.
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Just want to clarify, don't have a NC yet. Don't want to buy it as an ereader.
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lucifurious said:
I have two gripes:
1. No physical back button
2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
Both of these are hardware issues and not related to rooting.
I don't use the in-store feature so not having that doesn't bother me.
Do it, you can always unroot.
Magically transmitted across the interwebs by my kickass NookColor!
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I don't know that the lack of physical back button bothers me, it has a built in gesture for back (swipe to the left on the menu bar) so it's not really a limitation, more a preference thing. The only real downside I've seen is lack of in-store features. There are some issues with the root, mainly some market issues where for some reason all of the programs don't show up. I used the NC for a couple of weeks in stock form and then decided to root, definitely worth it just for the sake of getting a browser with multi-touch enabled. However, I read a lot so that factors into how much I like it.
If you're just using it as an android tablet, it's really good. No GPS, no cameras, no 3g connection, but other than that it's fast with the best screen I've seen on a tablet and is just the right size. My phone has a 5mpx camera, 720p video and GPS and I have it on me all the time, so no need for any of that in a tablet. It also acts as a hotspot, so no need for 3g on the tablet. It's a perfect compliment to a decent smartphone.
If you love to tinker there's no cons. (and if you want a back button, Autonooter comes with Soft Keys that'll put one on the screen for you)
Despite the time it took to learn how to do it, and what to do with it afterwards, I got what I paid for and more. I love to learn and troubleshoot, so rooting this device has been a real treat.
At the moment I have a fully functional tablet that I use quite often around the house and at work. It's a convenient browser (I use Opera Mobile which has pinch zoom and slightly better page rendering than the build in browser), a quick source of the news thanks to a program included in the Autonooter kit, and a useful quick-note taking device.
I'll admit, my primary use for it is browsing, but when you root this thing, you can use any browser you want. I use Opera, but Skyfire and Dolphin HD are also good.
In addition to that, it makes a great portable movie player. The built in player supports MP4 and one other format, but if you root it, you can download Rock Player and play most commonly used video formats.
It's Youtube performance is excellent too, and there's quite a few Youtube video downloaders available in case you want to save your favorites to the SDCard.
Speaking of that, you will want to buy an SDCard. It doesn't come with one, and you might want more than the 5GB free of space you get out of the box.
All in all, it's pretty much a computer, and once you learn how to do everything to liberate it from it's shackles, there's no limit to what you can do with it.
As a tablet, it is awesome, and only getting more so. Lets be real - its GPU is the same as the Droid X, and is not the most perful on the market. Tegra 2 (and one or two others) will soundly beat it, but at a price. Cheaper T2 platforms tend (so far) to have horrible screens, poor battery life, and are large. Other devices like the Tab, just are way over priced.
I think the nook has struck an excellent ballance. It has an excellent CPU, a capable GPU, plenty of ram, and one of the best looking screens out there. I love its form factor (the bezel is one of few NON ugly ones out there), handling, and capabilities, and the price is excellent ($250).
It is also really getting a community behind it, and i think we will see in the near future, many more custom ROMS which speed things up, add features (bluetooth), and generally improve user experience. Right now is an exciting time to be a nook owner..
If you are not planning on reading you MUST buy a memory card. Many android apps are hard coded to look in /sdcard for things and can't read or write to the internal memory on the nook. Google earth is one example. This could probably be fixed by a developer in a custom rom.
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It is also really getting a community behind it, and i think we will see in the near future, many more custom ROMS which speed things up, add features (bluetooth), and generally improve user experience. Right now is an exciting time to be a nook owner..
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That was one of my main reasons for choosing it over the Archos 70. I think the fact that the NC provides such great bang for the buck and is available at retail outlets across the USA gives it the potential to have a much larger following than something like the A70.
Adding bluetooth functionality will complete this thing.
The only con I've really felt was no mic :/ there slapped in crappy 10 dollar mp3s but not a eReader for memos/notes (tho its not useful) I could see voice search for books valuable.
Obviously want it for Voip not memos, Bt will be a fix but still.
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Ditto to above. The lack of a Back button can be worked around, and really only comes into play while in certain apps that don't show the standard Nook status bar at the bottom. So you can't swipe. Using SoftKeys, and setup the right way, (see forum for more info on that), then you can change the Nook button to launch SoftKeys, which gives you the Back button, and also, as a bonus, a Task Switcher pops up at the same time.
The only drawback I see is that in order to have decent sized icons and text, you need to change the density of the screen. This is fine for everything except the built in Nook apps, like the Store and what-not. The reader itself is fine. It just cuts off some of the text, but it's still usable. Personally, I just use the Kindle app, anyway, and don't ever launch the Nook apps, so it's a non-issue for me.
EDIT: I also dearly want Bluetooth to work, so I can use my GPS and BT headphones. But at least there's a BT radio in the thing. Just need to get one of the wizards to get it working. Last I heard, it was working, but only to two feet. Give me 3 feet and I'll be happy. The lack of Flash is a real bummer, of course, but also to be fixed in an upcoming 2.2 release from B&N, or you could go and install 2.2 right now and boot from sd card. Apparently, it's working pretty well. And, the lack of a mic is a small bummer, but I'm also hoping a wizard will write a USB driver that will work with a webcam/mic. All do-able stuff. Just a little time needed.
As a tablet its great. It has shortcomings like others have said but you have to take into consideration that this hardware with an IPS screen for $250 is an absolute steal even considering those shortcomings.
I am a long-time Kindle user who recently got into the world of Android with my first smartphone purchase (HTC Aria). I have really fallen in love with Android, in large part due to the excellent community here at XDA. I had started looking for an Android Tablet and stumbled across all of the info about the Nook, after a week or two of research, I decided to just go for it. I figured if I bought it at Walmart, I would have at least 30 days to decide if I wanted to keep it... and even if I bricked it somehow, I don't think Walmart customer service would know the difference and would still refund my purchase. Well, I bought the Nook Wednesday morning, rooted immediately and ended up selling my Kindle Thursday night to a co-worker. This is the real deal and I would highly recommend it to anyone looking for an e-reader and tablet device, as long as they enjoy modifying it.
P.S. I haven't figured out why everyone feels the need to change the LCD density settings... everything looks great stock to my eye.
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2. Adhoc wifi requires turning on/off wifi
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Just curious, what are you using ad-hoc wireless for? I use my android phone as a wireless hot-spot to provide internet to my Nook all night at work, that works fine, but I'm guessing that's not really ad-hoc or what you were referring to anyway.
I dont care for bluetooth, gps, or webcam. It doesnt bother me that flash doesnt work. I have flash on my phone and frankly, flash just makes webite load longer and most flash is just ads. It was an ok device preroot, now its a cheap capable tablet. I use it more than my pc. The only major gripe i have is that the edges of the screen seems to not register as well as the middle. But its not a dealbreaker.
Thanks guys. Just got one and its great! I was a bit skeptical at first after seeing before the root. Good info!
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Just curious, what are you using ad-hoc wireless for? I use my android phone as a wireless hot-spot to provide internet to my Nook all night at work, that works fine, but I'm guessing that's not really ad-hoc or what you were referring to anyway.
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The issue with Ad-Hoc is that some devices can not connect to Ad-Hoc networks. They can only connect to Infrastructure mode WiFi networks.
So the problem presents itself when a rooted phone using a wireless tether app is only capable of sharing WiFi via a Ad-Hoc network (Motorola Droid). The Nook Color then can not see the Ad-Hoc network and is unable to connect.
So the Ad-Hoc WiFi fix allows the Nook Color to see and connect to Ad-Hoc networks as well as Infrastructure networks.
If you have a newer phone, like the Droid X, I believe those phones transmit WiFi via Infrastructure mode, so there is no problem connecting any device to it as all devices work with infrastructure mode.
I hope that all makes sense.
Yep, that explains it. I wasn't aware that older phones were using adhoc wifi. Is that a hardware limitation or a ROM limitation?
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Yep, that explains it. I wasn't aware that older phones were using adhoc wifi. Is that a hardware limitation or a ROM limitation?
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Hardware and software limitation, actually.
Most phones don't have a wifi chip capable of creating a true infrastructure-mode access point, but that is gradually changing. One of the reasons I bought an HTC Incredible is that it can.
But you also need tethering software that can use that mode. Newer versions of Wifi Tether can, for example, but older ones can't.
OK. I have a 5 line family account on T-Moibile, with the 5th line currently not in use. Its data plan is considered a "smartphone" data plan. Now, my friend just purchaced a Streak7 and I want to put it on that 5th line. He put the sim card in, the Streak can recive text messages, but no internet (keep being redirected to MyTMobile). Called up TMo CS, they said that I cant use that line with a tablet, I have to add a 6th line onto my account as a tablet line. My question is, is it possible to trick the Streak into using the sim card I have for data? I really dont want to have to pay another 60 bucks on top of the over 200 I already pay .
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OK. I have a 5 line family account on T-Moibile, with the 5th line currently not in use. Its data plan is considered a "smartphone" data plan. Now, my friend just purchaced a Streak7 and I want to put it on that 5th line. He put the sim card in, the Streak can recive text messages, but no internet (keep being redirected to MyTMobile). Called up TMo CS, they said that I cant use that line with a tablet, I have to add a 6th line onto my account as a tablet line. My question is, is it possible to trick the Streak into using the sim card I have for data? I really dont want to have to pay another 60 bucks on top of the over 200 I already pay .
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Nope, you have to get a broadband plan. I'm using the $30 plan, which provides 200 Mb of high speed and thereafter EDGE speeds (no limit). I don't use it for much away from WiFi - just traffic and email, basically. I've not gone over 120Mb per month.
EDIT: Note that if you already own the S7, you DO NOT have to use a contract - the prices are the same. So I'm on a month-to-month plan.
Now, browsing the XDA forums, ive seen that folks with the Galaxy Tab can get this to work by hiding or deleting the "efs" folder on the root of the device. This causes the Tab to send a generic IMEI number to the carrier and gets it listed as a phone, not a tablet. Can something similar be done on the Streak?
I hope so,I would try it.
problem is, there is no EFS folder anywhere. And yes, it is rooted, we used Root Explorer to search.
if im not mistaken I think efs could also be stored deep in memory, where our unlock code is hidden
The streak, and likely streak 7 dont store device specific data that way I think (in /efs like samsung devices)
I assume the IMEI is stored in the same location as the Service tag. This area is a non-paritioned data structure in the nand. There are no tools to write to it, but obviously the rom itself can read from it.
The only known method if writing to it is via a jtag restore, which as there's no clean jtag dumps it just resets everything to 000000 and breaks a lot of stuff. Weither or not it can be written to without jtag, noone's bothered to document it. The unlocker tool likely reads out of this and that's how it works, but they obviously wouldnt freely give out the details or else you could do it yourself for free. Changing the IMEI is likely similar.
Also keep in mind changing the IMEI is ILLEGAL in most places, I would be surprised if XDA would allow talk of intentionally changing the IMEI. (Fixing after a bad wipe it is entirely different from intentionally changing it)
How about in case if I use a Unlocked DS7 on Non T-Mobile like ATT.
I believe in this case IMEI Change would not be required, but call functionality would be needed right?
How to enable Call Functionality in this case?
sorry to jump in guys, but basically your saying that I can't just take my existing sim (with data plan) from smartphone and put it in the DS7 and get internet/3G data? If so, is this true for all unlocked tablets, i.e. galaxy tab, HTC flyer, Huawei IDEOS S7, etc... thanks in advance, was planning on getting an unlocked tablet.
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sorry to jump in guys, but basically your saying that I can't just take my existing sim (with data plan) from smartphone and put it in the DS7 and get internet/3G data? If so, is this true for all unlocked tablets, i.e. galaxy tab, HTC flyer, Huawei IDEOS S7, etc... thanks in advance, was planning on getting an unlocked tablet.
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With T-Mobile it is certainly true. You can only use a broadband SIM card and plan. I don't know about other carriers with an unlocked S7.
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thanks steve for the info. then there's really no point in getting any 3G tablet unless u buy a separate tablet data plan, right? I'm with T-Mobile.
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thanks steve for the info. then there's really no point in getting any 3G tablet unless u buy a separate tablet data plan, right? I'm with T-Mobile.
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Yes. The reason for the 3G is to use when away from WiFi. It is nice to have the web connection when out and about.
If you already own the tablet you don't need to get a contract - so you can cancel anytime. The costs are the same. I'm on the $30 plan which nets 200 Mb, then slows down the data speed. I use mine with Wifi for a lot of my heavy duty surfing, and mostly use the 3G for google maps, email, etc. when out of the house.
If your phone supports tethering then you're still better off doing that.
Unless you have a small tab like a s7 then you'll likely be carrying a phone around too, with a small tab it's more situtational but it still applies. And as wifi tabs dont depend on carriers, they tend to update faster and more often.
If you're consistantly away from wifi and dont have your phone on you then yea this is a good use of a cell enabled tab, but otherwise it mainly means having a 2nd line on your account.
How often are you gonna bring it around without any other way of data?
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If your phone supports tethering then you're still better off doing that.
Unless you have a small tab like a s7 then you'll likely be carrying a phone around too, with a small tab it's more situtational but it still applies. And as wifi tabs dont depend on carriers, they tend to update faster and more often.
If you're consistantly away from wifi and dont have your phone on you then yea this is a good use of a cell enabled tab, but otherwise it mainly means having a 2nd line on your account.
How often are you gonna bring it around without any other way of data?
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You are correct of course. But there are other considerations. The screen on a 7 inch tablet is way bigger than my 4.3 inch HD2; Google maps is really nice on the larger screen. Also, tethering uses WiFi on both the phone and the tablet, causing both to deplete the battery faster. Last, T-Mobile phones ( or at last the ones I have had) do not support simultaneous voice and data. It is a matter of personal choice, needs, and cost.
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You cant do simultanious voice and data? That's strange.
On the battery issue, apparently from what i've heard the s7 isnt particularly amazing in that department. Using wifi is still cheaper then 3g for battery, it's a bit more balanced out by draining both devices less vs draining one quickly.
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You cant do simultanious voice and data? That's strange.
On the battery issue, apparently from what i've heard the s7 isnt particularly amazing in that department. Using wifi is still cheaper then 3g for battery, it's a bit more balanced out by draining both devices less vs draining one quickly.
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I forgot to mention the last one : My S7 is much more efficient in 3g mode than when connected via WiFi. The battery lasts much longer. But yes, the battery is not good. Supposedly the upgrade to honeycomb will help with this.
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I'll just have to take your word for it then as I dont actually own a s7, but the normal case is (depending on the usage) wifi is more efficient because it can finish downloading and idle faster.
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I'll just have to take your word for it then as I dont actually own a s7, but the normal case is (depending on the usage) wifi is more efficient because it can finish downloading and idle faster.
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I hope I was clear. WiFi is faster data transfer, but the battery lasts longer on 3G only. The thing that uses the battery is the WiFi modem, which does not idle. One can adjust settings to turn it off when the screen is off, but otherwise it runs all the time - unless you want to manually turn it off and on.
Also, i forgot to mention that the S7 won't connect WiFi to an"ad hoc" device. Some cellphones make their teathering that way. My HD2 won't work with the S7 for this reason. I have heard that some cellphones will work.
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What OS are you using on your HD2? I assume it's some build of android, CM7 mabye?
Yea the Streak family (S5/S7/Venue) dont do ad-hoc connections, but at least the S5 can tether in AP mode and not ad-hoc mode. If I had a S7 it would be able to wifi tether that way. just throwin out my 2ยข.
I cant check 100% but I beleve at least the S5 on wifi disables cell data on 2.2.x. For a brief moment when it's connecting to the AP both the wifi and cell data icons are visible but data dissappears once it's fully connected. As the S7 cant do calls you could completely disable the cell radio if you tether. Though if you're tethering sporadicly you'd still have to constantly turn tethering on/off on your phone anyway.
At this point I believe I'm just thinking out loud for whoever else is reading.
It's likely a sliding scale with [wifi-only <--------> data-only] and it really depends on how you use it. It's clearly not black and white and if you (the hypotheical reader, not you specificly stevedebi) think that it's only one or the other you're clearly wrong.
At least on my old iphone3g the cell radio was so power hungry, even leaving wifi on constantly (including idleing) saves a huge amount of battery vs using cell. Leaving wifi constantly on doubled effective idle battery life. But clearly S1 snaps and tegra2s are more efficient the other way around. (or close enough and technically the t2 requires an external radio so it's dependant on that)
On my s5 the most efficient way is: use wifi when available, turn wifi off when idle and 3g elsewhere. As my usage is mainly large bursts and little streaming I believe this is the most efficient for my usage (which is just web browsing, i use gps too but I cache maps ahead of time).
From the other threads, the cell radio is the most power hungry part on a s7 you can turn off. (and strangely this is even more true for the wifi ones, it's still 'on' and drains power but clearly there's no radio).
Of course this doesnt take the tethering phone into account, but at least when i tether my laptop to my s5 it really doesnt drain the battery much. The phone in tether mode doesnt process anything, it's merely relaying. If it was any other tab then the s7 you could likely even charge it actively if you're using it long enough to sit down. (though it'd look really silly, but 8.9-10.1" devices have huge batteries, the s7 not so much)
Off topic-rambling aside:
If it was me in your position I would merely tether all the time as I use at&t, as they charge an inordinate amount for tablet data. It's much cheaper to have a single (largest available) phone data plan instead of a small phone and small tab data plan. Ultimately which ever is the better deal is just as huge a factor as battery life on either device. (as apparently tmo has much better rates)
I'm using the stock wm Rom. I don't use android on this phone.
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Hey everyone - I'm thinking of the moto X on Verizon after the price drop and have a few Questions. I currently have a rooted S-On Rezound running Nil's business sense 4.0.
1. Will USB internet tethering for a windows 8.1 PC work WITHOUT rooting? (It seems like a hassle with this phone and the stock software is clean and good anyway.)
2. How about Titanium backup including application data (WITHOUT root)?
3. How good has Kit Kat been? I'm also concerned about the dual core processor since the new Google maps seemed a little choppy when I played around with one at Best Buy.
4. How good is the standby voice function? Is it a real feature for texting / calling at least, or a marketing gimmick like Siri that doesn't really work well?
Thanks
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Hey everyone - I'm thinking of the moto X on Verizon after the price drop and have a few Questions. I currently have a rooted S-On Rezound running Nil's business sense 4.0.
1. Will USB internet tethering for a windows 8.1 PC work WITHOUT rooting? (It seems like a hassle with this phone and the stock software is clean and good anyway.)
2. How about Titanium backup including application data (WITHOUT root)?
3. How good has Kit Kat been? I'm also concerned about the dual core processor since the new Google maps seemed a little choppy when I played around with one at Best Buy.
4. How good is the standby voice function? Is it a real feature for texting / calling at least, or a marketing gimmick like Siri that doesn't really work well?
Thanks
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I can attest to 3 and 4. The dual core has no problem keeping up with this phone and I have never had any problems with google maps or any other app for that matter. The dual core is great on battery as well; I can go all day with moderate use and wifi and gps on as well. The voice controls are amazing. I use it all the time when my phone is sitting on the console of my truck or on my desk 2 feet away. On occasion in a noisy environment it will ask me to speak up but it still has no problem recognizing what I said.
1. http://pdanet.co/help/devices.php everything works with 4.2 but 4.4 doesn't support WiFi tether.
2. Nope. Try Helium https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
3. Awesome. My Note 2 has been collecting dust ever since I received my Moto X. My only issue is with the camera. The Note 2 camera (or software?) takes sharper images.
4. The voice recognition is surprisingly good. I find it can be strict in how you say the trigger, which is good but also a bit annoying.
I think Motorola and Google have been very consistent with updates to the core apps and expanding capabilities. I'm really excited to see how much better this phone can get.
2. If you're not flashing roms, you don't need to backup really. Supposedly the standard Android adb backup works, which is what helium uses.
3. Kit kat is great, no speed issues at all.
4. The OK Google now shortcut works for me all the time. I personally don't like to use it in public, but it great in the car.
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Aeroman787 said:
Hey everyone - I'm thinking of the moto X on Verizon after the price drop and have a few Questions. I currently have a rooted S-On Rezound running Nil's business sense 4.0.
1. Will USB internet tethering for a windows 8.1 PC work WITHOUT rooting? (It seems like a hassle with this phone and the stock software is clean and good anyway.)
2. How about Titanium backup including application data (WITHOUT root)?
3. How good has Kit Kat been? I'm also concerned about the dual core processor since the new Google maps seemed a little choppy when I played around with one at Best Buy.
4. How good is the standby voice function? Is it a real feature for texting / calling at least, or a marketing gimmick like Siri that doesn't really work well?
Thanks
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#1. You are concerned about tethering for "free" which would imply you have an unlimited data plan... if you will be paying full retail to keep unlimited, consider getting the Dev Edition which is way easy to unlock the bootloader and root. (after unlocking boot loader via Moto's web site, you flash custom recovery, boot into custom recovery, and install/flash SU). Unlocking the Dev Edition bootloader does NOT void warranty. And it has the added benifit of being able to root this way no matter what ROM version is on your phone, without having to wait for a new exploit/process to be created and released when the rom is updated.
Like you said, the stock software/rom is good. The only reasons I see to root are... 1. use titanium backup or the like to backup/restore data, apps, etc, and freeze/remove applications or verizon bloat. 2. block ads. 3. tether if you have an unlimited data plan.
As for unrooted tethering, like nhizzat said, FoxFi was an option on 4.2.2 roms, but was broken on 4.4 roms. They also claim its not supported see -> http://pdanet.co/help/devices.php BUT this thread implies that just doing a factory reset will make it work -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602303 I haven't tested.
#2. I don't use it.
#3. No problem with speed or responsiveness with my X vs my Galaxy S4, Note 3, or other devices. I use Google Maps, camera, PIM functions, Hangouts, Facebook, dropbox, NFL Mobile, NHL Gamecenter, NBC Sports Live Extra, Monopoly, Uno, NFS Shift, Rhapsody, and others. Battery life hasn't been a problem either. I do find my phone gives me "better" battery life if I let it run down below about 10% before charging. if I keep "topping off" I get low battery warnings quicker. It makes me think there might be a bug in the phone's battery meter calibration.
#4. Like T-Keith, I primarily use the voice commands only in the car. Sorry, i don't like speaking to my phone in public. It works well for hands free calling, quickly looking something up, etc. It understands me about 95% of the time with the phone sitting down on the shifter in my car.
Aeroman787 said:
Hey everyone - I'm thinking of the moto X on Verizon after the price drop and have a few Questions. I currently have a rooted S-On Rezound running Nil's business sense 4.0.
1. Will USB internet tethering for a windows 8.1 PC work WITHOUT rooting? (It seems like a hassle with this phone and the stock software is clean and good anyway.)
2. How about Titanium backup including application data (WITHOUT root)?
3. How good has Kit Kat been? I'm also concerned about the dual core processor since the new Google maps seemed a little choppy when I played around with one at Best Buy.
4. How good is the standby voice function? Is it a real feature for texting / calling at least, or a marketing gimmick like Siri that doesn't really work well?
Thanks
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#1 - USB Tethering, I don't know. Assuming that you don't want to pay for tethering then I would wager, no. I'd also like to say that people not paying for tethering is one of the biggest reasons why carriers lock bootloaders. I know if you load CyanogenMod or one of those (you'll loose voice activation and such) then, it would work.
#2 - No, Titanium Backup requires root. If you're not flashing custom ROMs and such then you might not need it, but I haven't ever had much luck with the built in restore features. While getting Root in a pain in the ass, it is worth it. I run Titanium Backup on my device just be sure I have a backup.
#3 - I love KitKat, efficient. The Dual Core CPU works just fine. Keep in mind it has a quad core GPU (which is what will render graphics on games, the launcher, etc..). And the third CPU has 2 core, one of voice activation and one for contextual awareness - this means it can offload things from the main Dual Core CPU that normally would suck CPU cycles.
#4 - Actually, it works very well. And its use case depends on how you use your phone. Now, I liked it very much because it works in my car - I can tell my phone to dial and such without picking it up. I also have used it while cooking, asking Google to convert cups to tablespoons and such, which works nice without having to touch the phone. The downside is that it interfaces with only certain apps, so if the app doesn't work with Google Now it isn't going to work with being voice activated. I'd say, it a pilot program, it isn't a gimmick but it is incomplete.
Hi I am coming form a heavily used Note 2. As a business owner the Note 2 was my most important piece of equipment!!! Plus being always on the go it's flash video capabilities made being away from home easy. I never missed a basketball game or big fight. Watched them right on my phone. I remember being at a restaurant one Saturday night away from home and having the whole bar area crowd around my phone to watch a big fight. Pretty cool and useful. Unfortunately my Note 2 bit the dust and cant be fixed for reasonable money. Sprint store talked me into a Note 5 for my upgrade and contract renewal with a cheaper plan.
I was wondering if there are any ways to get similar apps or mods on my Note 5 Without rooting it. I am very dissapointed and feel like taking it back. Not impressed at all. Especially since I am out of pocket $200 and had to sign a 2 year plan. Maybe somebody can help or suggest some things. Or at least this can be a WARNING to potential buyers of the phones REAL LIFE CAPABILITIES AND LIMITS. Not some generic commercial hype or store sales pitch of since its a #5 it is better and does more things than the earlier numbered phones.
1. No live sports or new movie streams though web browsers
Lack of flash support ... I used flash websites to stream live sports or newer movies on my Note 2. I have downloaded the proper Adobe Flash version on the Note 5. I have also downloaded and enabled browsers like Firefox, Flash Fox, and Dolphin.
I have verified that flash is working. However, the sites for the live sports and movies DO NOT work. These sites all worked fine with the Note 2 stock browser.... Any other flash browser suggestions???? Anyway to download or install the Note 2 stock browser on Note 5?????
2. Mirroring. Watching EXACTLY what you see on your phone to a big TV.
All share Samsung data caster. I bought an expensive Samsung data caster that worked well to mirror my phone on to my living room TV.....Anyway to use this with my Note 5????? I don't see the option to on the phone.
Will a MHL cord to hdmi still mirror for a note 5??????
3. Using your internet and making a phone call at the same time.
Since I travel I use my phone as a modem for my laptop and computers....Tether... On my Note 2 with the PDA.net app it worked great. Was faster than any home internet I ever had. I could be on the phone and be browsing the web on my computer at the same time. It worked so well I cancelled my home ISP. It also came in handy even to just look things up on the phones internet while you were talking to clients.... I was VERY UPSET to find out that I can not do any of this on the Note 5. This is a major deal. I don't get this one at all. Any way to fix???????
4. Sound for music is not anything better.
5. Notifications and display are far less attention grabbing than on the Note 2. Easily miss texts or overlook them. The notification L.E.D.S are super WEAK.
6. My battery drains way faster! It does charge faster though. But I don't think this will be a good device to have where charging is not an option for a while.
7. You cant delete photos from the gallery... You have to open up the camera app to delete them... This seems so strange and pointless. Am I missing something here??????
Would appreciate any help or feedback on these issues. Thanks...
1. Not sure
2. Chromecast/Fire Stick, both work as I have personally tested this and both are available for under 50 dollars. (The screen mirroring option is in the quick toggles on your Note 5, mirrors everything on the screen not just compatible apps.)
3.Have not tested this
4. I think you need better headphones if you think it does not sound better.
5. Have not noticed this either
6. Disable unneeded apps, I am getting great battery life from mine.
7.QuickPic
whoamanwtf said:
1. Not sure
2. Chromecast/Fire Stick, both work as I have personally tested this and both are available for under 50 dollars. (The screen mirroring option is in the quick toggles on your Note 5, mirrors everything on the screen not just compatible apps.)
3.Have not tested this
4. I think you need better headphones if you think it does not sound better.
5. Have not noticed this either
6. Disable unneeded apps, I am getting great battery life from mine.
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Thanks for the info and response!!!!
2. I tried the the "quick connect" feature in the toggle down menu. IT WORKED with my DATA CASTER. I just don't like how it cuts the WI FI on too. i can live with that though. I now have mirroring without having to buy something else. Thanks!!!!
3. Yeah I have tested and confirmed with Sprint. Supposedly its a big deal and a lot of people are sending their phones back because of this. Literally just had a real life scenario where i needed to be on the phone and browse the web but couldn't..
4. I have $60 earbuds from Sienheiser. Maybe your ears work better or you have better head phones. I'm not willing to pay any more than $60 or buy another pair. They are less than a year old. But the sound is great. Just hard for my ears to pick up the difference. Both Note 2 and note 5 sound excellent though.
5. I also noticed that if you stay on a text message conversation screen and leave the screen on. . . . It will not ring or notify you if an additional text from that sender comes through. I don't like that at all. I want it to ring and vibrate for every text no matter what!
6. Can you clarify what you mean by disable????? Like delete???? Which ones did you get rid of????
7. I will look into QuickPic.....I'm guessing its an app in the play store?
Was your note 2 on lollipop? I have a feeling son of the things like notifications might be a lollipop thing not a note 5 thing
Go to your setting and adjust everything till it feels like your ideal phone.
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GreeleyXda said:
Was your note 2 on lollipop? I have a feeling son of the things like notifications might be a lollipop thing not a note 5 thing
Go to your setting and adjust everything till it feels like your ideal phone.
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No i didnt have lollipop. I tried and played with the notification settings. Those are more limited too. Using wifi isnt an option for me often because i cancelled my home isp because tethering was faster and more dependable.
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No i didnt have lollipop. I tried and played with the notification settings. Those are more limited too. Using wifi isnt an option for me often because i cancelled my home isp because tethering was faster and more dependable.
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just tried first row sports using the dolphin browser and dolphin jetpack, after a little tinkering and changing to desktop mode, auto enabling flash play it works on streaming sports with flash. Give that a go and let me know
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just tried first row sports using the dolphin browser and dolphin jetpack, after a little tinkering and changing to desktop mode, auto enabling flash play it works on streaming sports with flash. Give that a go and let me know
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I have tried first row sports. With no luck. Freezes after a second at best.
Are you able to go full screen?
What link is working for you?
What is Dolphin jetpack?
Thanks for the help!
Just an extension of dolphin browser in the marketplace. Give it a go
gn4life84 said:
Hi I am coming form a heavily used Note 2. As a business owner the Note 2 was my most important piece of equipment!!! Plus being always on the go it's flash video capabilities made being away from home easy. I never missed a basketball game or big fight. Watched them right on my phone. I remember being at a restaurant one Saturday night away from home and having the whole bar area crowd around my phone to watch a big fight. Pretty cool and useful. Unfortunately my Note 2 bit the dust and cant be fixed for reasonable money. Sprint store talked me into a Note 5 for my upgrade and contract renewal with a cheaper plan.
I was wondering if there are any ways to get similar apps or mods on my Note 5 Without rooting it. I am very dissapointed and feel like taking it back. Not impressed at all. Especially since I am out of pocket $200 and had to sign a 2 year plan. Maybe somebody can help or suggest some things. Or at least this can be a WARNING to potential buyers of the phones REAL LIFE CAPABILITIES AND LIMITS. Not some generic commercial hype or store sales pitch of since its a #5 it is better and does more things than the earlier numbered phones.
1. No live sports or new movie streams though web browsers
Lack of flash support ... I used flash websites to stream live sports or newer movies on my Note 2. I have downloaded the proper Adobe Flash version on the Note 5. I have also downloaded and enabled browsers like Firefox, Flash Fox, and Dolphin.
I have verified that flash is working. However, the sites for the live sports and movies DO NOT work. These sites all worked fine with the Note 2 stock browser.... Any other flash browser suggestions???? Anyway to download or install the Note 2 stock browser on Note 5?????
2. Mirroring. Watching EXACTLY what you see on your phone to a big TV.
All share Samsung data caster. I bought an expensive Samsung data caster that worked well to mirror my phone on to my living room TV.....Anyway to use this with my Note 5????? I don't see the option to on the phone.
Will a MHL cord to hdmi still mirror for a note 5??????
3. Using your internet and making a phone call at the same time.
Since I travel I use my phone as a modem for my laptop and computers....Tether... On my Note 2 with the PDA.net app it worked great. Was faster than any home internet I ever had. I could be on the phone and be browsing the web on my computer at the same time. It worked so well I cancelled my home ISP. It also came in handy even to just look things up on the phones internet while you were talking to clients.... I was VERY UPSET to find out that I can not do any of this on the Note 5. This is a major deal. I don't get this one at all. Any way to fix???????
4. Sound for music is not anything better.
5. Notifications and display are far less attention grabbing than on the Note 2. Easily miss texts or overlook them. The notification L.E.D.S are super WEAK.
6. My battery drains way faster! It does charge faster though. But I don't think this will be a good device to have where charging is not an option for a while.
7. You cant delete photos from the gallery... You have to open up the camera app to delete them... This seems so strange and pointless. Am I missing something here??????
Would appreciate any help or feedback on these issues. Thanks...
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1) You had an Android device from 2012. The internet and Google have since moved on to HTML5. Flash is dead. Very few OSs support flash anymore. This isn't a phone issue. The unfortunate issue is your websites still utilize flash which is dangerous and a battery hog. A lot of security flaws and too much memory usage.
2)DL AllCast from the Google Play store, it hacks into any casting device. I have an AppleTV (back when I used to be pro Apple) and I use it constantly. All your casting needs whether it's a movie, phone screen, music, gallery etc all at your fingertips.
3)This is a Sprint issue not a phone issue. Sprint uses CMDA technology which requires dual cellular radios in order to surf and talk. Every other carrier supports simultaneous voice and data. I have Verizon (also CDMA, but I have dual radios in my phone) and can do it with my phone. When the phones hit a particular carrier, they decide to upgrade the radios to do surf/talk. If they decide not to which Sprint did not. You can't. Some claim this is a way to keep they're network bandwidth higher. Its 2015, regardless the phone should be able to do it.
4) The Note 5 came with a lot of new audio support modes. One feature I would recommend is using adaptic. It recognizes your ears ability to sense particular frequencies and changes the sound to your ears which makes a lot of difference.
5) You change change your notification settings in the individual apps your speaking off. The LED notification can be adjusted to your liking within settings. If this doesn't work. You can always DL an app that uses your phones flash to flash when your getting a notification (I know, I know.... Like an iPhone but it works great).
6). Lollipop has not been kind to device batteries. A lot of unnecessary system processes and apps. There are other posts within the Note 5 category that will guide you on debloating and disabling those packages and apps to gain better performance. Again not a phone issue but a software issue. Android M (which these phones will be first in-line to get) will change a lot of the problems they created in Lollipop. The Note 5 is not the only phone that suffers from this problem. A lot of them do.
7) Yes you can, but its hidden behind a sub menu. Long press on the photo you want to delete and it will pop open the delete function in the top menu bar (see image attached)
Hope this all helps. I suggest dumping Sprint and coming to Verizon. While it's not cheaper. It certainly is much better. Speeds, tethering, and service pretty much everywhere.
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Just an extension of dolphin browser in the marketplace. Give it a go
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ok installed.
Same thing... Will play for a second then freezes with Link 2... Also will not go full screen. Tried mobile and desktop modes.
Are you able to watch for more than a few secs and @ full screen without freezing????
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1) You had an Android device from 2012. The internet and Google have since moved on to HTML5. Flash is dead. Very few OSs support flash anymore. This isn't a phone issue. The unfortunate issue is your websites still utilize flash which is dangerous and a battery hog. A lot of security flaws and too much memory usage.
2)DL AllCast from the Google Play store, it hacks into any casting device. I have an AppleTV (back when I used to be pro Apple) and I use it constantly. All your casting needs whether it's a movie, phone screen, music, gallery etc all at your fingertips.
3)This is a Sprint issue not a phone issue. Sprint uses CMDA technology which requires dual cellular radios in order to surf and talk. Every other carrier supports simultaneous voice and data. I have Verizon (also CDMA, but I have dual radios in my phone) and can do it with my phone. When the phones hit a particular carrier, they decide to upgrade the radios to do surf/talk. If they decide not to which Sprint did not. You can't. Some claim this is a way to keep they're network bandwidth higher. Its 2015, regardless the phone should be able to do it.
4) The Note 5 came with a lot of new audio support modes. One feature I would recommend is using adaptic. It recognizes your ears ability to sense particular frequencies and changes the sound to your ears which makes a lot of difference.
5) You change change your notification settings in the individual apps your speaking off. The LED notification can be adjusted to your liking within settings. If this doesn't work. You can always DL an app that uses your phones flash to flash when your getting a notification (I know, I know.... Like an iPhone but it works great).
6). Lollipop has not been kind to device batteries. A lot of unnecessary system processes and apps. There are other posts within the Note 5 category that will guide you on debloating and disabling those packages and apps to gain better performance. Again not a phone issue but a software issue. Android M (which these phones will be first in-line to get) will change a lot of the problems they created in Lollipop. The Note 5 is not the only phone that suffers from this problem. A lot of them do.
7) Yes you can, but its hidden behind a sub menu. Long press on the photo you want to delete and it will pop open the delete function in the top menu bar (see image attached)
Hope this all helps. I suggest dumping Sprint and coming to Verizon. While it's not cheaper. It certainly is much better. Speeds, tethering, and service pretty much everywhere.
Sent from my SM-N920V using XDA Free mobile app
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Thanks for all the info I really appreciate that!!!!!!:good:
1. Is 3 years really that long.... When you spend that much money for something i would expect to have that option. You don't have to use a or go on a flash site if you don't want to....Flash is alive and well. Like I had mentioned earlier, people who stream Live sports and recent movie releases are all still Flash sites. I do not know of one html5 site that live streams sports.... Would love to find one if its out there though
2. I got the stock app to work with my Samsung All share Data caster. It is really choppy though. Thanks I will give that one a try and see if its any better
3. Wow that makes me even angrier with Sprint. i have tried to go to Verizon and t-mobile. They both have said stick with Sprint. My bills would be over twice as much with them because they don't do true unlimited Data like sprint does. Even when they do offer it, they bottleneck and slow your speed down once you reach a certain amount of data... My data usage makes Sprint my only choice and the fastest for me.
4. Will try thanks!!!!!
5. Note 5 has that from factory. I have it turned on. but in the day light the white flash is not to visible. Also, not visible when the phone is screen up. I have played with the settings. The notification LED just isn't that bright, big, flashes frequent enough to work as well as the older one. The Flash notification though is super helpful at night or in the dark.
6. If I keep the phone I will look into that. However, I find all the battery life claims with factory settings....auto screen brightness, keeping all apps closed, with just normal daily use to be terrible. I find it hard to believe that getting rid of the bloat-ware will take it form terrible to acceptable, but i'll take your word for it ... I hope so.
7. No attached image is showing for me????? I tried tapping and holding the pic and nothing is happening.......still only gives the option to share.
I think dolphin browser still works with flash. you will have to find the flash apk download though.
gn4life84 said:
ok installed.
Same thing... Will play for a second then freezes with Link 2... Also will not go full screen. Tried mobile and desktop modes.
Are you able to watch for more than a few secs and @ full screen without freezing????
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trying to get the soccer streams to work isn't working for myself, but I was always able to get UFC to stream and NFL/CFL when I would try. I'll let you know later on if it works for me, might just be the streams are crap too.
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Thanks for all the info I really appreciate that!!!!!!:good:
1. Is 3 years really that long.... When you spend that much money for something i would expect to have that option. You don't have to use a or go on a flash site if you don't want to....Flash is alive and well. Like I had mentioned earlier, people who stream Live sports and recent movie releases are all still Flash sites. I do not know of one html5 site that live streams sports.... Would love to find one if its out there though
2. I got the stock app to work with my Samsung All share Data caster. It is really choppy though. Thanks I will give that one a try and see if its any better
3. Wow that makes me even angrier with Sprint. i have tried to go to Verizon and t-mobile. They both have said stick with Sprint. My bills would be over twice as much with them because they don't do true unlimited Data like sprint does. Even when they do offer it, they bottleneck and slow your speed down once you reach a certain amount of data... My data usage makes Sprint my only choice and the fastest for me.
4. Will try thanks!!!!!
5. Note 5 has that from factory. I have it turned on. but in the day light the white flash is not to visible. Also, not visible when the phone is screen up. I have played with the settings. The notification LED just isn't that bright, big, flashes frequent enough to work as well as the older one. The Flash notification though is super helpful at night or in the dark.
6. If I keep the phone I will look into that. However, I find all the battery life claims with factory settings....auto screen brightness, keeping all apps closed, with just normal daily use to be terrible. I find it hard to believe that getting rid of the bloat-ware will take it form terrible to acceptable, but i'll take your word for it ... I hope so.
7. No attached image is showing for me????? I tried tapping and holding the pic and nothing is happening.......still only gives the option to share.
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Flash is dead:
http://www.businessinsider.com/google-chrome-wont-autoplay-flash-ads-2015-8
In device terms with technology coming out. Yes 3 years is old enough.
With phone service you get what you pay for. I've never had a dropped call, network failure, or internet outtage. And from previous experiences living in the sticks of Kentucky. I still got 4G Verizon. Now I'm in Florida and never lower then 3 bars of coverage. I pay $234 a month for two phones and a tablet. I pay for 10gb and I get additional 5gb of data added to my plan per month for free as I am a loyal Verizon Customer. So it works out great.
Idk why it didn't post so my apologies.
Here are photos of the deleting procedure and my battery life on my phone after stream lining it. I average 18-22 hrs on a single charge. Depending on usage.
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I think dolphin browser still works with flash. you will have to find the flash apk download though.
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Stated that i have the correct flash apk and Dolphin+ tried 4 other "flash friendly browsers" too. Some flash works but not all. none of the live sports stuff works....
phil.W said:
trying to get the soccer streams to work isn't working for myself, but I was always able to get UFC to stream and NFL/CFL when I would try. I'll let you know later on if it works for me, might just be the streams are crap too.
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COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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I hadn't tried as of yet, but it raises the question. It worked for my note 2 and 3 when I had them
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COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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totally dependant on the stream, just tried a rugby stream and it was perfectly fine on first row, using dolphin with flash
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totally dependant on the stream, just tried a rugby stream and it was perfectly fine on first row, using dolphin with flash
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Still cant get flash, dolphin, and front row to work....
Some more updates
- Still cant get flash for front row to work with Dolphin.
More updates:
-LED notifications are super weak and almost not visible on bright sunny days
- Have missed several text because if I leave a text conversation open if a text from that sender comes through It wont notify you.
-Also all free messaging apps wont work while you are on the phone. Like KIK and others. You can not receive any of those messages until you get off the phone . Makes me wonder if Email is like this too???? How counter productive and backwards...
They literally have taken out more features and all multi tasking... So what do I care if the hardware is better????? IT DOES WAY LESS!!!!!
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I use hangouts dialer and a google voice line to place calls and keep my data line open....
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-Also all free messaging apps wont work while you are on the phone. Like KIK and others. You can not receive any of those messages until you get off the phone . Makes me wonder if Email is like this too???? How counter productive and backwards...
They literally have taken out more features and all multi tasking... So what do I care if the hardware is better????? IT DOES WAY LESS!!!!!
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Yeah that part is true and no mapping and no nothing about data when your on a call. But you can hear a cricket fart at 200 paces! But again that is a sprint thing. Sprint blames it onSamsung but Samsung builds to sprints specs.
I thought I'd share a few findings from my use of the MIX over the last few days to save others some frustration setting up and using this great phone. So far, I am really enjoying the phone!
It's runs on AT&T just fine - in some places, I'm getting LTE (4G) based on available bands and H+ or 3G in most others; I don't watch a lot of video on the phone so speed really hasn't been an issue.
Getting Google apps installed was very frustrating due to the download constantly crashing. Took me awhile to figure out the problem and, once I did, it installed easily. (see posts elsewhere on how to download and install from the MI store).
The biggest things I've learned is that you have to shut off the default download accelerator (I think it has trouble hitting servers in China from outside China) and allow downloads from cell connections (if you want that) in the MI store as those setting carry over into the Play store.
Open the MI "App Store" then under Account (you'll need to establish a MI account - easy to do), Downloads, on the top left click on the little bird and shut off the Xunlei accelerator - that fixed all my download problems. Then on the same downloads page, click on the 3 dots on the top right and chose Settings. Under the settings, you can change "download using mobile data is" to whatever setting you want; I set it as unlimited. Those settings carry over to the google play store (no matter what you chose on play) which is why I was having problems downloading apps over cellular even when I said it was ok.
I checked the phone for the adups spyware reported installed on phones from China using debloater and didn't find anything.
I installed Nova launcher (instead of the default launcher) with the pixel icon pack and am now very happy with the phone.
it's big (and slippery so I'm using the case that came with the unit) and a pretty cool phone. No lag, speed issues or anything else to report so far.
Wow... Just got my phone yesterday and was so annoyed with not being able to download most things, especially the Google Play Services. Thank you so much for this. Everything works now.
I thought it may have to do with my SIM card saying its not activated, even though I could still call, text, and had internet. Do you have the same message?
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OP should be stickied because the download accelerator is turned on by default.
TGUY25 said:
I thought I'd share a few findings from my use of the MIX over the last few days to save others some frustration setting up and using this great phone. So far, I am really enjoying the phone!
It's runs on AT&T just fine - in some places, I'm getting LTE (4G) based on available bands and H+ or 3G in most others; I don't watch a lot of video on the phone so speed really hasn't been an issue.
Getting Google apps installed was very frustrating due to the download constantly crashing. Took me awhile to figure out the problem and, once I did, it installed easily. (see posts elsewhere on how to download and install from the MI store).
The biggest things I've learned is that you have to shut off the default download accelerator (I think it has trouble hitting servers in China from outside China) and allow downloads from cell connections (if you want that) in the MI store as those setting carry over into the Play store.
Open the MI "App Store" then under Account (you'll need to establish a MI account - easy to do), Downloads, on the top left click on the little bird and shut off the Xunlei accelerator - that fixed all my download problems. Then on the same downloads page, click on the 3 dots on the top right and chose Settings. Under the settings, you can change "download using mobile data is" to whatever setting you want; I set it as unlimited. Those settings carry over to the google play store (no matter what you chose on play) which is why I was having problems downloading apps over cellular even when I said it was ok.
I checked the phone for the adups spyware reported installed on phones from China using debloater and didn't find anything.
I installed Nova launcher (instead of the default launcher) with the pixel icon pack and am now very happy with the phone.
it's big (and slippery so I'm using the case that came with the unit) and a pretty cool phone. No lag, speed issues or anything else to report so far.
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Thanks for your thoughts.
I am awaiting mine to be delivered within next few days and I am wondering if you have noticed any issues with push notifications? I use Nine email and proper pusch notifications are key factors for daily use of the device.
MarFor66 said:
Thanks for your thoughts.
I am awaiting mine to be delivered within next few days and I am wondering if you have noticed any issues with push notifications? I use Nine email and proper pusch notifications are key factors for daily use of the device.
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I'm getting some push notification delays with Hangouts, Tapatalk, and Gmail.
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I'm getting some push notification delays with Hangouts, Tapatalk, and Gmail.
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Thanks!
Have you tried to change battery performance plan or adjust all the settings which are related to app background data or secure the app to be alive when the screen is off?
I think with Android 6.0 and its doze stuff this will require some more efforts to make the settings workable for all those apps which require some push services when the screen is off.
@OP
Where did you find the Mi App Store? I don't see it in mine, I wonder if it was taken out by the shop that sold me the phone. Play Store says not available in my country when I did a search for it.
I couldn't find that on my phone either so any help would be greatly appreciated!
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I couldn't find that on my phone either so any help would be greatly appreciated!
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As soon as I receive mine and start playing with settings I will share whatever support will be valuable.
mine came right out of the box and it had the "app store" with the MI logo on it. it was not a custom rom - the off the shelf china rom and I selected English as the language. I still have a few funky things going on. Android Pay will work then sometimes I'll get an "Android Pay not available" error and have to uninstall/reinstall the app - I think this has something to do with permissions.
I haven't found anything that references doze mode and did a setting search and found nothing. the phone us running android 6
The forbes review. Mentioned how miui aggressively kills background apps unless you disable that.
ChodTheWacko said:
The forbes review. Mentioned how miui aggressively kills background apps unless you disable that.
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I have yet to find LTE, but HSPA+ is working well enough. (I'm in NH and MA). I'm on AT&T as well.
I am still getting used to how small this phone feels compared to my Huawei Mediapad X2, but the Mi Mix is so much faster! and background apps dont secretly close all the time like on the Huawei so that's a huge plus.
Slippery...... Yeah, why is this so slippery? I hate using cases with my phones, but I just don't think its a good idea on this one. Really only the thin sides need help, I thought about applying some sort of slim tape strips or skateboard griptape just on the very edge of the phone. I think this would help quite a bit...
omniphil said:
I have yet to find LTE, but HSPA+ is working well enough. (I'm in NH and MA). I'm on AT&T as well.
I am still getting used to how small this phone feels compared to my Huawei Mediapad X2, but the Mi Mix is so much faster! and background apps dont secretly close all the time like on the Huawei so that's a huge plus.
Slippery...... Yeah, why is this so slippery? I hate using cases with my phones, but I just don't think its a good idea on this one. Really only the thin sides need help, I thought about applying some sort of slim tape strips or skateboard griptape just on the very edge of the phone. I think this would help quite a bit...
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get one of those carbon fiber (look) adhesive back skins available for the Tab s 8.4 (just cut it down to size-helps with the grip without adding thickness) 4.99 last I checked on Ebay (takes time though as it comes from China) have used it on 2 devices so far (just cut and adapt)
wondering about your LTE (lack thereof) - as bands 2, 4 and 5 are available on this device. I know here in Michigan, bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices (do not have the Mix) depending upon the area I am in. 5 is not here but is in N Michigan-couple of users on xda said 5 was tapped into in the Dallas area-not sure of yours
check these
https://opensignal.com/
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1841948-LTE-bands-in-Northern-Michigan
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1881635-AT-amp-T-s-Band-30-WCS-LTE-Deployment
mac231us said:
get one of those carbon fiber (look) adhesive back skins available for the Tab s 8.4 (just cut it down to size-helps with the grip without adding thickness) 4.99 last I checked on Ebay (takes time though as it comes from China) have used it on 2 devices so far (just cut and adapt)
wondering about your LTE (lack thereof) - as bands 2, 4 and 5 are available on this device. I know here in Michigan, bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices (do not have the Mix) depending upon the area I am in. 5 is not here but is in N Michigan-couple of users on xda said 5 was tapped into in the Dallas area-not sure of yours
check these
https://opensignal.com/
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1841948-LTE-bands-in-Northern-Michigan
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1881635-AT-amp-T-s-Band-30-WCS-LTE-Deployment
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I got some clear wide 3M packing tape, I'm going to put one piece over the back and up the 2 sides and see how that goes. I figure that will also keep the camera lens up off the desk a little as well. But I love your carbon fiber adhesive idea! I will have to look for that... And I actually have a Tab S 8.4 still that I used as my phone for a while...
When you say "bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices" Do you mean you have to do something at the carrier level to activate LTE? I haven't had an LTE phone on AT&T in a long time, too many overseas phones and have been using HSPA+ exclusively. I did go into the Sim card settings and select "Prefer LTE" but it never seems to stick? It just flashes away quickly no matter what I choose i there...
omniphil said:
I got some clear wide 3M packing tape, I'm going to put one piece over the back and up the 2 sides and see how that goes. I figure that will also keep the camera lens up off the desk a little as well. But I love your carbon fiber adhesive idea! I will have to look for that...
When you say "bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices" Do you mean you have to do something at the carrier level to activate LTE? I haven't had an LTE phone on AT&T in a long time, too many overseas phones and have been using HSPA+ exclusively. I did go into the Sim card settings and select "Prefer LTE" but it never seems to stick? It just flashes away quickly no matter what I choose i there...
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Sorry.. I meant to say they are seen on my devices or picked up (not activated)
check your local coverage using links I gave (2 of the 3)..although I could not find anything that would tell one which bands are in any given area - so some of the coverage shown could very well be coverage through bands not in the Mix like 17 on ATT or 12 on Tmobile or even 29 and 30 on ATT (less common I think).
this is the 'carbon fiber' (appearance) sticker
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Carbo...561385?hash=item33a448b8a9:g:BDYAAOSw7NNUL~d7
mac231us said:
Sorry.. I meant to say they are seen on my devices or picked up (not activated)
check your local coverage using links I gave (2 of the 3)..although I could not find anything that would tell one which bands are in any given area - so some of the coverage shown could very well be coverage through bands not in the Mix like 17 on ATT or 12 on Tmobile or even 29 and 30 on ATT (less common I think).
this is the 'carbon fiber' (appearance) sticker
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Carbo...561385?hash=item33a448b8a9:g:BDYAAOSw7NNUL~d7
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Perfect, thanks! I'll be down in Boston later today, I'll see what I can pickup for signal.
TGUY25 said:
I thought I'd share a few findings from my use of the MIX over the last few days to save others some frustration setting up and using this great phone. So far, I am really enjoying the phone!
It's runs on AT&T just fine - in some places, I'm getting LTE (4G) based on available bands and H+ or 3G in most others; I don't watch a lot of video on the phone so speed really hasn't been an issue.
Getting Google apps installed was very frustrating due to the download constantly crashing. Took me awhile to figure out the problem and, once I did, it installed easily. (see posts elsewhere on how to download and install from the MI store).
The biggest things I've learned is that you have to shut off the default download accelerator (I think it has trouble hitting servers in China from outside China) and allow downloads from cell connections (if you want that) in the MI store as those setting carry over into the Play store.
Open the MI "App Store" then under Account (you'll need to establish a MI account - easy to do), Downloads, on the top left click on the little bird and shut off the Xunlei accelerator - that fixed all my download problems. Then on the same downloads page, click on the 3 dots on the top right and chose Settings. Under the settings, you can change "download using mobile data is" to whatever setting you want; I set it as unlimited. Those settings carry over to the google play store (no matter what you chose on play) which is why I was having problems downloading apps over cellular even when I said it was ok.
I checked the phone for the adups spyware reported installed on phones from China using debloater and didn't find anything.
I installed Nova launcher (instead of the default launcher) with the pixel icon pack and am now very happy with the phone.
it's big (and slippery so I'm using the case that came with the unit) and a pretty cool phone. No lag, speed issues or anything else to report so far.
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Can you post a picture of NOVA launcher on your phone?
When you turn on Nova Launcher Persistent Search Bar mine automatically goes to Baidu for search instead of Google, I haven't been able to figure out that one yet..
omniphil said:
When you turn on Nova Launcher Persistent Search Bar mine automatically goes to Baidu for search instead of Google, I haven't been able to figure out that one yet..
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Same here,I stopped using it & went with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.natewren.csbw&hl=en
KOLIOSIS said:
Same here,I stopped using it & went with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.natewren.csbw&hl=en
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That app looked great right up until i used it, the floating bar moves when you try to enter text. Very odd