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Call Recorder in Android ???

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2117
I know in some Contry its Illegal to Record Call but its not True for every
Country
I am Marketing Executive and drive a lot and in the middle of road i
receive to much call for reporting and rates feed for the Market, i have no
option other then using Nokia Symbinan Based Automatic Call Recording
software and at the end of the day i listen and write down every thing in
my PC for further Action .
I know its Possible through Android to Automatically Record Phone calls or
Atleast a API Support for Developers in SDK to do so.
Unless untill Call Recording don't come in Android all my Top tier Marketing
Team can not use Android At all.
I think Google Should seriously think about API Support in SDK to Support
Call Recording so my Situation can be Handled easily.
Hetal Patel

Nop. It can record your audio, but not the callers:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/c2bc85eb60ae2aa5?pli=1
Apps that can record what you are saying: ringdroid and droidrecord. I have the same problem though. Hope they make it possible in FW 1.5.

Yeah +1
Every other phone I've had could do it and I do miss the ability to record and save phone conversations, especially when arguing with warranty returns/call centres.

Yeah +1
Every other phone I've had could do it and I do miss the ability to record and save phone conversations, especially when arguing with warranty returns/call centres.

News?
Somebody know if there're changes about newer android versions? Do Call Recording work now?

There is a new application in Andorid Market called AllCallRecorder. I think it would
help you

http://www.androlib.com/android.application.jp-eguchi-android-callrecording-wzin.aspx works pretty well. Voice from the other end is a little quiet, but I haven't had problems.

Two ways call recording is depending upon hardware construction same like wm and symbian. For example if wm, Asus and Samsung can but HTC cannot, whereas if in symbian case, Nokia can but Samsung cannot. This conclusion comes from my long experience with the aforementioned mobile phones. Have not tested with Garmin Asus android yet as it is not available in my market but believe this one can as Asus make it and assumably using the same hardware design for phone circuit.

We've confirmed that our Total Recall call recorder app for Android is running (ie, recording audio from both the device and the caller audio) on the following devices:
- Acer Liquid 100
- Droid Eris
- G1
- General Mobile DSTL1
- HTC Evo
- HTC Dream
- HTC Hero
- HTC Magic
- HTC Tattoo
- MyTouch
- Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 / Mini
Now, these have been confirmed either through internal tests on our own handsets or via user feedback, which means there's some variables, including OS version, among other things, so actual results on the same hardware may vary, but it's a good start anyways.
We've received feedback from a couple Moto Droid/Milestone users that it was also recording fine (just not showing the clip via our app, but it was available in the SD card), however on our own Droid running 2.1 (and previously 1.6) we never saw it successfully record a call.
Keep in mind the list above is for our own app, which has required about 20 updates to resolve various device specific issues either with recording, storing or showing audio files in the app, over the past few months, so other recorders may or may not actually work for you.
Anyone interested in giving it a go can download it from our website killermobile (dot)com. If you do run into any issues, PM me for a special debug version so we can see if we can get it running on your particular device. If you read this in the next couple days, and you use an EVO or Desire, also PM me for a special version that includes a fix specifically for these devices (official release will come after a bit more testing). We're definitely keen to add to our list of supported devices and will keep updating this thread accordingly.
Cheers!
Josh @ Killer Mobile
Stay Killer My Friend

killer_mobile said:
We've confirmed that our Total Recall call recorder app for Android is running (ie, recording audio from both the device and the caller audio) on the following devices:
- Acer Liquid 100
- Droid Eris
- G1
- General Mobile DSTL1
- HTC Evo
- HTC Dream
- HTC Hero
- HTC Magic
- HTC Tattoo
- MyTouch
- Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 / Mini
Now, these have been confirmed either through internal tests on our own handsets or via user feedback, which means there's some variables, including OS version, among other things, so actual results on the same hardware may vary, but it's a good start anyways.
We've received feedback from a couple Moto Droid/Milestone users that it was also recording fine (just not showing the clip via our app, but it was available in the SD card), however on our own Droid running 2.1 (and previously 1.6) we never saw it successfully record a call.
Keep in mind the list above is for our own app, which has required about 20 updates to resolve various device specific issues either with recording, storing or showing audio files in the app, over the past few months, so other recorders may or may not actually work for you.
Anyone interested in giving it a go can download it from our website killermobile (dot)com. If you do run into any issues, PM me for a special debug version so we can see if we can get it running on your particular device. If you read this in the next couple days, and you use an EVO or Desire, also PM me for a special version that includes a fix specifically for these devices (official release will come after a bit more testing). We're definitely keen to add to our list of supported devices and will keep updating this thread accordingly.
Cheers!
Josh @ Killer Mobile
Stay Killer My Friend
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Hi
Samsung galaxy s dont working
pls. help
thx

what about HTC Touchpro 2 running android from card

Any updates..>?

OMG see this...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2117#c226

Total recall works on a HTC tattoo
Had to import it to my country
works like a charm
would like something to work on ver 2.0+ android though
Tattoo runs on 1.6 android
Just shows you that it did work and then Google F**** it up.

Nice to know that Total recall works on some phones.
But how well does it really work?.
I always use hands free. Would any of the short listed phones be able to seamless record the other party sound while using a handsfree set?
Thanks

Total Recall works like a charm on Tattoo
I make it pop up afterwords to add caller details and what call was about to the name
I record in mp4 format and found a free mp4 reader to read files
Been using it for 3 months
Worth the money a few dollars

sorry didnt see hands free part
Dont do hands free so cant answer that
Dont like bluetooth radio devices nect to my head

CAll rec software
Cetin said:
Somebody know if there're changes about newer android versions? Do Call Recording work now?
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Now we have bunch of app which will get your calls recorded
just check with laws in your state
Check out these free/trial apps :
Record My Call
RecordCall
Total recall call recorder TRIAL 14 days
All Call recorder
AndRecorder
Call recorder
Call Recorder
Note : File names are taken from Android Market and are placed one per line and will be exact in market so search with same keyword . There is not priority , just check out and use the one you like
PAID apps are also available but you will have to shell some $

out of all these only total recall appears to work and then only on some fones and on version 1.6
2.2 seems curtailed by goole on the voice streams ???

As far as I know it's not an Android issue.
The audio is handled by kernel on /dev.
The problem is really simple here: HTC's last kernels DON'T support this.
It's not an hardware problem, the audio from dmesg is there.
When you attach a bluetooth handset the waveform is sent to (and received from) the paired device.
Someone with free time could download kernel sources and search where HTC put this limitation..
Moreover.. on some kernels the /dev devices are there (but with different names of those supported by mediarecorder) and a symlink on /dev will suffice.
those are my 2 cents.

New skype release today!

http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/30/skype-for-android-now-support-video-calls-works-over-wifi-and-3g/
Not working on the transformer or the gtablet yet. But hopefully we'll get a working app soon either from microsoft or from the dev community.

I tried a patched version that took out the restriction. It force closes when trying to accept a call and enable video, but the settings and buttons show up...

gtab
Can some one upload the APK when they get the new video skype so we can try this on the gtablet.

Here's the issue, I think...
The support for video chat requires Gingerbread. If I understand correctly, this is because GB finally introduced a standard API to access the front camera.
Until Gingerbread did this, all apps that accessed the camera needed their own drivers to do so (there was no standard camera driver to access back then, which is why apps needed to have built in support for specific devices).
Skype is using this to their advantage by releasing an app that doesn't require much code change to support device almost any device (why they are only supporting specific devices at a time is mostly political AFAIK).
But here's the problem- There is no official Gingerbread for our hardware! All the GB roms we have are hacked together with peices of code with missing native hardware drivers since they don't exist! That means, I would guess, the new Gingerbread camera API is USELESS BECAUSE GINGERBREAD LACKS THE NATIVE HARDWARE SUPPORT!
Yes, this is awfully depressing. But without a real Official Gingerbread rom, unless Skype starts offering Froyo camera support (unlikely since they would go back to the old problem of suporting each camera hardware individually), this is just not going to happen.
Maybe if the rumors of official Honeycomb drivers turn out to be true, and Skype eventually supports video with HC (another *IF*), then maybe. But that's a long way off.
Very depressing- I was very excited about this working until I came to this realization.

Wrong thread.

How's that? Looks like the correct thread to me.

Dishe said:
How's that? Looks like the correct thread to me.
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I meant myself. I put a post here and then realized it was meant for elsewhere. Multiple windows openned.

Here's the apk for the new released skype vid app.

[Q] Total Recall working on Galaxy Note ?

Hey,
Anyone willing to install Total Recall for the Galaxy Note to see if it works properly ?
I'm getting my Note in about a week and would really like to know if it works, also, i don't know if the normal Total Recall will work or if we need to install the version for the Samsung Galaxy S 2, Total Recall Samsung Galaxy S 2.
Android Market Total Recall:
https://market.android.com/details?...S5raWxsZXJtb2JpbGUudG90YWxyZWNhbGwudHJpYWwiXQ..
Android Market Total Recall Samsung Galaxy S 2:
https://market.android.com/details?...pbGxlcm1vYmlsZS50b3RhbHJlY2FsbC5zMi50cmlhbCJd
The links are the free versions of the apps.
Any help would be appreciated

It works, keeps pinging super user permissions on root access. I'm getting a notification every second
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

It works well and I have no problem with super user requests like the previous poster. I'm using the normal version. I thought the GSII version was the same as normal, but preconfigured for good performance on GSII. The normal version can be configured the same, but other ways also if wanted, while GSII version settings are locked down.
Settings I'm using:
Recording strategy C
x Prevent phone from sleeping
x Initiate the recording after the start of the call (for automatic start/stop recording)

Thanks guys

Hi,
I am using non rooted galaxy note. Total recall records my own voice loud and clear, but I could hardly hear other person's voice.
Does total recall only work on rooted galaxy note? Any suggestions please?

This can b helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415310

I tried installing Total Recall for SG2 on my Note but every time I run it it says 'an error occurred' and closed before I have a chance to test anything. You see the menu for about half a second and then the app crashes.
anyone having the same problem?

dr.ketan's thing definitely looks good, but I happen to like some of the features of Total Recall. I installed the generic version (not SGSII version) and it works great for recording both sides. I've exported my settings and attached the file here. Download the file, remove the extension (the original file has no extension but I had to add one to attach it here so I stuck on .zip, but don't bother extracting, just delete it) put the file in the root of sdcard (not external) and go to Total Recall > Export/import settings > Import. If you have the file in the root of sdcard and you deleted the extension, it should find it automatically.

I will try your method out and post my results.

I am using the Galaxy S2 version.
It seems to work but the recorded volume from the the end is quite soft.
I then made some adjustment and click the "audio" and "advanced setting"
"turn the speakerphone on while recording". I recorded as 3GPP and the
recordings are fairly acceptable.
I have an unrooted Note and of course when speaker is on other nearby
will be able to hear the conversation.

YFY said:
I am using the Galaxy S2 version.
It seems to work but the recorded volume from the the end is quite soft.
I then made some adjustment and click the "audio" and "advanced setting"
"turn the speakerphone on while recording". I recorded as 3GPP and the
recordings are fairly acceptable.
I have an unrooted Note and of course when speaker is on other nearby
will be able to hear the conversation.
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The GS2 version is just the regular version with the settings configured for optimal use on the GS2. But the thing is you can't change the settings, so if you change devices, you're stuck with those settings. Why would anybody get that version and lock themselves in, when they could get the standard version and have it work well with the GS2, then be able to reconfigure it for their next device when they bought a new phone?
I have the standard version, on my Note, configured as I explained in my 2 posts above, and it works great, recording both sides loud and clear without having to use speakerphone.

Hey Max,
Thanks for the info you've given. FYI, based on quite a bit of feedback, it seems the best way to get two-sided call recording going on the Galaxy Note is to first perform a test call using our Strategy B setting (you can adjust this under Audio -> Advanced Settings), then set the app to use Strategy C. As odd as this sounds, that's what gets this working. We're still researching the "Why", and we're also working on automating this for you to make it easier, so keep an eye out for this update.
And just as Max mentioned, the S2 build is nothing more than a version that's preset for this particular device. We'll probably release more builds like this for the more popular devices.
And just so you know, we are currently working on a complete, from the ground up rebuild to really clean up the UI (it's become a monster) and make things much easier to use, as well as adding quite a few features and updates that you guys have been requesting over the past months.
Stay Killer!
Josh @ Killer Mobile

killer_mobile said:
Hey Max,
Thanks for the info you've given. FYI, based on quite a bit of feedback, it seems the best way to get two-sided call recording going on the Galaxy Note is to first perform a test call using our Strategy B setting (you can adjust this under Audio -> Advanced Settings), then set the app to use Strategy C. As odd as this sounds, that's what gets this working. We're still researching the "Why", and we're also working on automating this for you to make it easier, so keep an eye out for this update.
And just as Max mentioned, the S2 build is nothing more than a version that's preset for this particular device. We'll probably release more builds like this for the more popular devices.
And just so you know, we are currently working on a complete, from the ground up rebuild to really clean up the UI (it's become a monster) and make things much easier to use, as well as adding quite a few features and updates that you guys have been requesting over the past months.
Stay Killer!
Josh @ Killer Mobile
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I bought the version for the Galaxy SII (i9100) because it was the season of my device, then migrated to the galaxy note N7000, made ​​several requests on the website of killermobile requesting release so that I could use or download the version of the play version specifies to note (N7000) and unfortunately I was not satisfied.
Ae arrepdendido am today because I paid much and just because I changed my phone (samsung for samsung) can not use the product you bought and expensive, very expensive.
I feel very bad about the treatment meted out by the killer mobile site.

I use auto call recorder app from market. Works both ways and well.....
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

ANT+ on the Nexus 5

Hello,
As It's difficult to search for "ANT+" in the forums, sorry if this issue has already been addressed
And now some extra keywords to ease the search: ant, ant+, antplus, ant_plus, antwireless, ant_wireless
This is a thread to summarized all the facts about ANT+ and the Nexus 5 I have found so far:
HARDWARE: BCM4339. The Nexus 5 has this chip which provides WiFi, BT and presumably ANT+. It's also present in the Galaxy Note 3 which reportedly has ANT+ capabilities.
DRIVER: The required driver source can be found here: https://github.com/ant-wireless . Once compiled it generates a module (libantradio.so) and two apk (AntHalService.apk, ANTRadioService.apk).
SOFTWARE: There are several apps with ANT+ enabled, but for testing purposes the ANT+ demo can be used.
To be able to test ANT+ I have the Nexus 5 and ANT+ capable hardware (HRM, cadence sensor, etc), the ANT+ Demo in google play but I'm missing the driver.
I know I need a kernel with module loading enabled (for example this modified stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2514765) but I don't know howto to compile the ANT+ module.
Can someone generate the driver as per the instructions in https://github.com/ant-wireless/ANT_in_Android or explain me how to do it?
I'm on a linux host, I have a rather limited experience in compiling stuff but I'm not afraid of learning something in the process!
Thanks!!

very interested in the results. thank you for your work on this

interested
Subscribed.
I am also interested in this as I have my phone and Garmin Forerunner watch with me when I run so if I can just carry my phone and get the same data that would be awesome!

If no one else takes this on, I'll see about looking into it later. Keep in mind though that I'm not a developer of any sort but am comfortable with compiling kernels. I have an ANT+ HRM from my Motoactv that I'd like to use.

Ok,
So far I haven't able to compile stock kernel. I'm trying with NDK GCC 4.7 without success: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47577117
But I've investigated in other fields. I've downloaded S4 and Note3 ROMS with ANT+ support to have a look at the files.
S4 CRASH_ROM_V11: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322619
Note3 BoBCaTROM_V2.0: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2498687
This is want I've found so far:
There are three system apps: AntHalService.apk, ANTRadioService.apk and ANTPlusPlugins.apk. These two latter can be found in google play. The first app is the one that "informs" the system that the device is ANT+ capable (as stated in the ant_wireless git). I've tried to install this apk manually but fails due to certificates (samsung).
S4, Note3 and Nexus5 have all different revisions for the bcm433x firmware but they all have an "ANTLockUsed" string in it (hexdump). Is it related to ANT+ or the ANTenna? Incidentally, the wisol firmware revision doesn't have this string.
The rest of the files related to ANT+ are for the com.dsi.ant.antradio_library (etc/permissions and framework files).
I can't find any ANT+ related module (ant*.so, libant*.so). Thus, is it already compiled in the kernel or not needed at all?
I've uploaded all these files in case anyone wants to have at look them.

Subscribed. ANT+ support would be awesome for all the athletes out there.

I'm a big supporter of ANT+. I wish I knew more about Android to help on this side. I have a blog that documents a lot of hacking projects related to ANT+.
If the Nexus 5 could access ANT+ it could be an amazing cycle computer potentially.
I work a bit with a SOC from Nordic. The way it works for BLE is that it compiles and downloads a soft protocol. I'm wondering if this is how the Boardcom chip works too. My reasoning is in the github:
Additionally, in Android 4.2, the Bluetooth stack switched to Bluedroid (from BlueZ) and this existing ANT implementation for chips using Vendor Specific Bluetooth HCI messaging for ANT packets (wl12xx and bcm433x) is currently not compatible, until somebody is able to do the work for the different bluetooth stacks. The chip vendors may provide build support for their own products if you inquire with them.
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So it sounds like, because ANT+ and BLE are so similar, they upload a new stack to the chip which enables it. However, this stack is not in the wild.

kwakeham said:
So it sounds like, because ANT+ and BLE are so similar, they upload a new stack to the chip which enables it. However, this stack is not in the wild.
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That makes sense as I wasn't able to find any more files related to ANT+ (directly not by looking into the source code).
However, I'm very stubborn and I want ANT+ in the nexus :silly:
First of all: It still doesn't work, but so far I've learnt a few things.
First I copied the Note3 files (attached) related to ANT+ (root needed, remember to chmod 644):
/system/app/AntHalService.apk (modified to strip samsung certificates)
/system/etc/permissions/com.dsi.ant.antradio_library.xml
/system/framework/com.dsi.ant.antradio_library.jar
/system/vendor/firmware/bcm4335_A0.hcd (renamed to bcm4335c0.hcd to max nexus5 firmware name. Backup old one first!!)
Upon reboot I also installed from google play the rest of ANT+ app required.
ANT radio service: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.service.socket
ANT+ Plugins: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus
ANT+ Demo: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.antplusdemo
When using the ANT+ Demo App it doesn't warn about anything missing (good!!) but when searching for the HRM I have it just fails (bad!!). It fails with either firmware (nexus or note). In any case dmesg doesn't so any info related to ANT+.
To summarize:
The previous files are needed so that androids "knows" ANT+ hardware is present, but
Something else needs to be modified. As stated by kwakeham probably the bluetooth stack.
I have no android or coding skills (or any skills at all ), but with this information I hope someone can have a look at the modified bluetooth stack of either S4 or Note3 to port those changes to Nexus5 :fingers-crossed:
I'm very confident because XDA is a great place with lots of wonderful people, fully capable of implementing ANT+ in the Nexus5.
They've done much harder things!!

Is it true that Bluetooth 4.0 can only connect to one device at a time? So, if we wanted to monitor heart rate on the phone and listen to music via bluetooth headphones, this would not be possible unless we used an ANT+ heart rate monitor, correct?

Cleanskinned said:
Is it true that Bluetooth 4.0 can only connect to one device at a time? So, if we wanted to monitor heart rate on the phone and listen to music via bluetooth headphones, this would not be possible unless we used an ANT+ heart rate monitor, correct?
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Close but not quite.
A BT4 HR strap will only allow one device to connect to it at a time but the phone can connect to multiple BT devices at the same time. ANT+ lets an infinite number devices to connect to a single HR strap, so like your phone stashed in your pocket and a running watch on your arm. ANT+ would also allow you to read data from hundreds of sensors, though that would be more useful for a trainer at a spin class or something lol.

Exactly, and to verfy that I just connected two Bluetooth 4.0 devices with my Nexus 5. My Pebble and the fitbit Flex from my girlfriend, both worked fine simultaneously.
Btw, windows has a limit of 7 connected Bluetooth devices at a time, but that's not caused by the Bluetooth specification.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app

Hello,
Still no success.
I've been looking into the source code of both S4 and Note3 opensource kernels for android version 4.3, but due to lack of coding skills I just have no idea of what to search.
The source code of bluetooth stack from these kernels and the one for nexus5 seem completely different thus it's hard to draw any conclusions. The only thing clear is that running a "grep" search into the code for "ant+", "antplus", "ant_wireless" (or similar) doesn't show any results.

It seems someone is working on having ant+ on the google editon S4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542922
Let's hope his work can be reused for the nexus5.
PS. I don't have enough posts yet to ping him back to this thread but I will try to use the files he has attached.

usu4rio said:
It seems someone is working on having ant+ on the google editon S4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542922
Let's hope his work can be reused for the nexus5.
PS. I don't have enough posts yet to ping him back to this thread but I will try to use the files he has attached.
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That's me. I've found you looking for some info to help me out.
The main issue I'm facing is the AntHalService.apk from the vendors(Samsung,Sony) is the 3.0.0 and there were 2 updates already.
I compiled the 3.1.1 but I can't run it as a system app.
Regarding the Nexus 5, I guess that since S4 got ANT+ activated on 4.3, something in the updated radio probably activated it, and as you mentioned, no .so modules on the system.
Maybe analyzing the ANTHal code deeply might bring up some light on this.
Btw, you're Brazilian or Portuguese or Spanish? (due to your nickname)
If so, we can add each other on G+ and progress on talks to see if we can bring some light to the athlete droiders out there...
Worst case scenario you can use an USB Ant+ Stick with an OTG cable. (what I am going to do while I research for this.... )
Oh, btw, Galaxy S3 also had the hardware but Samsung never activated it...

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AdrienC said:
That's me. I've found you looking for some info to help me out.
The main issue I'm facing is the AntHalService.apk from the vendors(Samsung,Sony) is the 3.0.0 and there were 2 updates already.
I compiled the 3.1.1 but I can't run it as a system app.
Regarding the Nexus 5, I guess that since S4 got ANT+ activated on 4.3, something in the updated radio probably activated it, and as you mentioned, no .so modules on the system.
Maybe analyzing the ANTHal code deeply might bring up some light on this.
Btw, you're Brazilian or Portuguese or Spanish? (due to your nickname)
If so, we can add each other on G+ and progress on talks to see if we can bring some light to the athlete droiders out there...
Worst case scenario you can use an USB Ant+ Stick with an OTG cable. (what I am going to do while I research for this.... )
Oh, btw, Galaxy S3 also had the hardware but Samsung never activated it...
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i have a Galaxy S4 but i want to change it for Nexus 5
i hope it works
following

HI to all
I'm interesting on this too and I'm waiting how advance this to buy an nexus 5
You will try to ask on thisisant forum. there are developers from ant+ and offer some news about phones sometimes.
Waiting news, best regards to all.

Guys, I've got a message from @fcastillousfq and I think it might be of your interest my response:
fcastillousfq said:
Hey, I saw the post about getting a USB accessory for the Nexus 5 to be able to use ANT+ as a last resource, I've been searching online and can't find any for Android, only for iPhone. The only one I've found was huge and it's not for sale yet.
Could you provide me a link or the name of the accessory so I could buy it?
Thanks!
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Sure, it the Suunto Movestick Mini + OTG Cable
Then you have to install:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.usbservice
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.service.socket
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.antplusdemo (for testing)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.antplus.grapher.heartrate (for testing)
And you're set. It's pretty easy!!
ps: forget to mention that you can use regular size ant+ usb sticks, as the one from Garmin, but I preferred this one as it's smaller.
With a bit of DIY you can make something smaller.

Thanks for the info! I'm going to look into it and probably buy it.
I'm also considering the Viiiiva, which acts as a bridge between all my Ant+ devices and Bluetooth 4. The bad thing is that there's no android app yet, in the mean time, the USB one will suffice.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app

AdrienC said:
That's me. I've found you looking for some info to help me out.
The main issue I'm facing is the AntHalService.apk from the vendors(Samsung,Sony) is the 3.0.0 and there were 2 updates already.
I compiled the 3.1.1 but I can't run it as a system app.
Regarding the Nexus 5, I guess that since S4 got ANT+ activated on 4.3, something in the updated radio probably activated it, and as you mentioned, no .so modules on the system.
Maybe analyzing the ANTHal code deeply might bring up some light on this.
Btw, you're Brazilian or Portuguese or Spanish? (due to your nickname)
If so, we can add each other on G+ and progress on talks to see if we can bring some light to the athlete droiders out there...
Worst case scenario you can use an USB Ant+ Stick with an OTG cable. (what I am going to do while I research for this.... )
Oh, btw, Galaxy S3 also had the hardware but Samsung never activated it...
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Sorry for the delay.
Yes! spanish :good:
Unfortunately I don't use G+ (or facebook or in fact any other so-called social network). I will try to be active here so we can achieve the desired ANT+ support.
Tomorrow I will have a look at the ANT+ files you compiled (posted in the other thread) and I will compare the results with the ones provided by samsung (which I somehow managed to installed but don't really know if are working or not). I will add a post with the steps I followed to make it work.

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Guys, I've got a message from @fcastillousfq and I think it might be of your interest my response:
Sure, it the Suunto Movestick Mini + OTG Cable
Then you have to install:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.usbservice
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.service.socket
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.plugins.antplus
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.antplusdemo (for testing)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.antplus.grapher.heartrate (for testing)
And you're set. It's pretty easy!!
ps: forget to mention that you can use regular size ant+ usb sticks, as the one from Garmin, but I preferred this one as it's smaller.
With a bit of DIY you can make something smaller.
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I also have the LARGE garmin usb stick. I successfully used it with the Razr (910xt), but if only we could make use of the internal ANT+ hardware it would be soooo convinient
usu4rio
PS. As a "last resort" I'm planning to contact Carlo Pescio, the creator of Sportablet (http://www.sportablet.com). If I were able to use the internal ANT+, I would definitively buy his software (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.carlopescio.uploader). I hope this doesn't sound as extortion ... too much :angel:

Any way to get ANT+ up in S4 Active?

I bought my S4A in the year of release. At that time, Android 4.2 was state of the art, but 4.2 had no BT4.0, BT LE or ANT+ support. The S4 neither had BT4.0, BT LE or ANT+ support, because it was also release with Android 4.2.
With the release of Android 4.3, android was able to handle BT4.0, BT LE and ANT+. Since samsung released official firmware based on Android 4.3 the S4 can handle those, but the S4A can only handle BT4.0 and BT LE.
We know that the S4 and S4A differ in display or camera. But what about the radio chips? As far as i know, S4 comes with a combochip which includes Bluetooth (BT<=4.0, BT LE) and also the ANT+ funcitonality. What about the radio chip in S4A ? Is this the same like the one in S4 chip?
Has any of the developers tried to bring ANT+ in the S4A up and running? Maybe this is just a question of driver optimization?
Im running cm-12-20150121-NIGHTLY-jactivelte.zip and installed the ANT+ Radio Sercive and the ANT+ Plugin from the Playstore but this was for nothing.

Does ant+ work on a S4 with CM rom?

You can enable Developer Options: system - about - multiple tap Build number. Back in System Options a new item appear. Under this menu a selection between runtime Dalvik or ART can be done. This is certainly not the same as ANT+. Perhaps other developer options offers tweaks of interest.
Not sure if this is yet implemented in CM12.
http://www.thisisant.com/business/opportunities/mobile

I9295 has the same chipset as I9505, so logically speaking if I9505 has ant+, it should work on our device with some files / patches from I9505 unless some additional patch to the kernel is required.
I do not have a ant+ device, so cannot test. If interested you can try the super Wizcyan ROM that has those files along with the ant+ (Gear manager) apps in the addon package. Additionally you could try with ktoonsez kernel for (I9505) ported by spegelius ( KT-SGS4-KK4.4-TW-eur-01.12.2015.zip)

At the moment i cant test other roms on my S4 Active.
For now, everbody can test ANT+ on ones own device, ANT+ equipment is not needed to bring the radio chip up. All you have to do is to install the following apps from the playstore:
1. ANT Radio Service (without this, ANT+ wont work; i think its the backgroundservice for ANT+)
2. ANT+ Plugins Service (API for 3rd party apps ?)
3. ANT+ Plugin Sample or ANT+ Heart Rate Grapher
First install 1. and 2.
Then use 3. to use the ANT+ radio chip. If those apps cant find ANT+-Hardware in the phone, the message "ANT Adapter not available. Built-in ANT hardware or external adapter required." will be shown.
This message will not come up if the kernel or whatever is tweaked fine and ANT hardware is ready to use.

I did some investigation and it looks like CM (or the most of custom roms) do not support ANT(+) out of the Box, no mather if its S4, S5 oder other ANT+-ready phones, but stock roms do since Android 4.3
The sources of ANT(+) are available here under the Apache Licence:
github.com / ant-wireless
Why is this not implemented in the Cyanogenmod mainline Code?
Is there a custom rom based on modified original S4 Kitkat stock rom in v4.3 or newer to test ANT+ on the S4 A?
And what about the original Samsung source codes?
The modifications for ANT must be in the original Samsung S4 Source code, because the /system/app/ANTRadioService.apk is included in the source package (open the note just right of the downloadable zip to see the files list)
opensource. samsung. com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=GT-I9500
In the S4 A sourcecode the ANT.apk is missing (open the note just right of the downloadable zip to see the files list)
opensource. samsung .com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=GT-I9295
Sorry for the broken links but at the moment i just have under 10 posts.

I started a general feature request in the CyanogenMod Forums under http:// forum.cyanogenmod. org/topic/104511-missing-ant-support/

You have to remember that OEM roms are not open source.

Of course, but why do you advert?
Do you because i asked for a modified stock rom?

LayerEight said:
We know that the S4 and S4A differ in display or camera. But what about the radio chips? As far as i know, S4 comes with a combochip which includes Bluetooth (BT<=4.0, BT LE) and also the ANT+ funcitonality. What about the radio chip in S4A ? Is this the same like the one in S4 chip?.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/hardware/ref-devices-ant-hardware-t2879990
S4 has a BCM4335, no info on the S4 Active (I can't find any)
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I9295 has the same chipset as I9505, so logically speaking if I9505 has ant+, it should work on our device with some files / patches from I9505 unless some additional patch to the kernel is required.
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See http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/hardware/ref-devices-ant-hardware-t2879990 the Application Processor chipset has no impact on the radio chip, and ANT+ support.
LayerEight said:
I did some investigation and it looks like CM (or the most of custom roms) do not support ANT(+) out of the Box, no mather if its S4, S5 oder other ANT+-ready phones, but stock roms do since Android 4.3
The sources of ANT(+) are available here under the Apache Licence:
github.com / ant-wireless
Why is this not implemented in the Cyanogenmod mainline Code?
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CM does implement this (it's in the OnePlus One at least), but that is for a Qualcomm radio. The S4 uses a Broadcom part, which uses a different stack and not included in that source.
Looking at a really old version it says
As of the 4.2 build, chips using Vendor Specific Bluetooth HCI messaging for ANT packets (wl12xx and bcm433x) are not currently supported by this release. However, chip vendors may provide build support for their own products if you inquire with them.
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while the latest just says
Before you begin, talk to your chipset vendor to ensure your chip is ANT capable, and to obtain ANT enabled firmware as well as any other chip-specific customizations you may require.
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but I don't see BCM code in there.
It would be good to know which radio chip is in the S4 Active, but my guess is that it is one that does not support ANT+ (why else would Samsung have enabled ANT+ in the S4 and every flagship since, but not the S4 Active).

iRant said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/hardware/ref-devices-ant-hardware-t2879990
S4 has a BCM4335, no info on the S4 Active (I can't find any)
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/hardware/ref-devices-ant-hardware-t2879990 the Application Processor chipset has no impact on the radio chip, and ANT+ support.
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I9295 has the same bcm4335 and identical files as I9505 in system/vendor/firmware as well as the same properties as I9505 in build.prop [ro.chipname=apq8064]

JASONRR said:
I9295 has the same bcm4335 and identical files as I9505 in system/vendor/firmware as well as the same properties as I9505 in build.prop [ro.chipname=apq8064]
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The ro.chipname doesn't look like it's associated with the radio chip, but if it is the same part, these Android patches from Garmin will be part of the puzzle: https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/q/I12f27c8b13fae8685412851f2b0cac2152bec330
Still missing the github.com/ant-wireless piece for connecting it to the ANT Radio Service, but it's a good starting point for any devs.

Edit: Sorry, i took to long with this post. Have not seen Post #11 and #12.
iRant said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/hardware/ref-devices-ant-hardware-t2879990
S4 has a BCM4335, no info on the S4 Active (I can't find any)
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I also searched for this information, looked on several fixit sites, but i couldnt find.
iRant said:
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/hardware/ref-devices-ant-hardware-t2879990 the Application Processor chipset has no impact on the radio chip, and ANT+ support.
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This is very interesting. Thank you.
iRant said:
CM does implement this (it's in the OnePlus One at least), but that is for a Qualcomm radio. The S4 uses a Broadcom part, which uses a different stack and not included in that source.
Looking at a really old version it says while the latest just says but I don't see BCM code in there.
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Yes! Seems that ANT+ was taken out of some devices which got it in CM11 in the past.
iRant said:
It would be good to know which radio chip is in the S4 Active, but my guess is that it is one that does not support ANT+ (why else would Samsung have enabled ANT+ in the S4 and every flagship since, but not the S4 Active).
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A possible reason why the S4 Active (and possible S4 mini, S4 zoom, S4 LTE+?) is NOT ANT+ ready might be: As a manufacturer you have to certify your peace of hardware if you want a ANT+ labeled product. This certification is not for less, you have to pay for and i think, the S4 derivates are not inportant enough for Samsung to certify this phones.
Please note my thread in the ANT+ forums:
http://www.thisisant.com/forum/viewthread/4552/
Ok, i did more investigation. This is what i found:
I checked my S4 Active with CM12 Nightly installed. In /system/vendor/firmware are files for:
A300_* files (dont know for what they are)
bcm2079xB4_* (NFC Chip)
bcm4335_murata.hcd
bcm4335_prepatch.hcd
bcm4335_semco.hcd
bcm4335.hcd
vidc_1080p.fw
Bingo. I think we have a bcm4335 inside and it looks like S4 active comes with the same BT-Chip like S4.
For more research, im download the image files from sammobile from S4 4.4.2, S4 Active 4.4.2 and brand new: There is a 5.0.1 version for the rusian market for the S4 I9500.

LayerEight said:
Please note my thread in the ANT+ forums: http://www.thisisant.com/forum/viewthread/4552/
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I (arrgh) posted some info (not really an answer) on that forum. My understanding is that the main reasoning for the certification is ensuring that the ANT+ interoperability is maintained (someone's ANT+ bike computer/phone will talk to everyone else's ANT+ heart rate strap), and getting listed in the product Directory - which is the responsibility of the ANT+ apps, not the ANT phones. Getting ANT working is the first step anyway!
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Bingo. I think we have a bcm4335 inside and it looks like S4 active comes with the same BT-Chip like S4.
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Nice work. I'm not 100% convinced, but it sure looks promising! I updated the Phones with ANT+ Hardware list.

iRant said:
I (arrgh) posted some info (not really an answer) on that forum. My understanding is that the main reasoning for the certification is ensuring that the ANT+ interoperability is maintained (someone's ANT+ bike computer/phone will talk to everyone else's ANT+ heart rate strap), and getting listed in the product Directory - which is the responsibility of the ANT+ apps, not the ANT phones. Getting ANT working is the first step anyway.
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Thank you for this information, this ANT+ Product Certification subsite is new for me and gives me a more detailed view of the ANT+ certification process. The most of the questions i placed in the official ANT forums get answered there. Especially this information is essential:
http://www.thisisant.com/developer/ant-plus/certification-faq/category/253/
In what situations is a product sample not required?
At this time we do not require samples for the following product types:
1. Mobile platforms (i.e. smart phone, tablet etc). These products typically only require the review of the ANT communication so the test tool report is sufficient
2. Software apps (mobile app or other software which is downloadable and upgradable online).* These typically do not require samples because these types of products can be easily corrected in the field.
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But there is also this information:
I have certified my mobile device, but we are planning to upgrade the Android OS. What is required in this situation?
For an OS upgrade, we recommend the stand alone 1000 packet slave burst test for self validation.* An Android version update should have no direct impact on ANT performance.* If the phone passes the simple regression test, there is no need to recertify the phone model.
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In a strict sense, the point is, that S4 is ANT+ certified (and could get a custom rom with ANT+ Support immediately) while for example the S4 Active is not certified. It's not the chip which is certified, but the hole piece of hardware.
For now, this is all theory and i agree: first of all, one should get ANT running.
Nice work. I'm not 100% convinced, but it sure looks promising! I updated the Phones with ANT+ Hardware list.
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Nice! You could update the initial post of your ANT thread with the information, that supported phones cold possibly identified by the installed drivers. With this information, people might check their phones for a potential ANT capability.

For now, i can confirm that S4 Active comes definetly with BCM4335.
I downloaded the official Samsung firmware from sammobile.com and extracted the images. I can find BMC4335 firmware files in /vendor/firmware folder.
Ill see if i can check S4 Zoom and also S4 LTE+

Just uploaded a new version of the super WizCyan ROM with the addon package. Have done some porting from S4 and got to a point where ant+ demo & ant+ sampler apps both search for devices, but since I do not have a ant+ device am unable to test the connection.
You could give it a try if you would like to. The ROM is a slimmed TouchWiz stock with only basics & include active display & lockscreen notifications while some of the bloatware is in ghe addon package that includes the gear manager & ant+ apps.

LayerEight said:
At the moment i cant test other roms on my S4 Active.
For now, everbody can test ANT+ on ones own device, ANT+ equipment is not needed to bring the radio chip up. All you have to do is to install the following apps from the playstore:
1. ANT Radio Service (without this, ANT+ wont work; i think its the backgroundservice for ANT+)
2. ANT+ Plugins Service (API for 3rd party apps ?)
3. ANT+ Plugin Sample or ANT+ Heart Rate Grapher
First install 1. and 2.
Then use 3. to use the ANT+ radio chip. If those apps cant find ANT+-Hardware in the phone, the message "ANT Adapter not available. Built-in ANT hardware or external adapter required." will be shown.
This message will not come up if the kernel or whatever is tweaked fine and ANT hardware is ready to use.
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If what you have said is correct then yes S4 Active has ANT+ hardware as I have got both ANT+ Plugin Sample & ANT+ Heart Rate Grapher apps searching for devices and state no devices found

Wow, this sounds amazing! Thanks so much for your effort.
Since i posted this "how to check if ANT+ is functional"-guide, i found out, that there is a easier and probably safer way.
Please go to https://github.com/ant-wireless/ANT-Android-SDKs/tree/master/ANT_Android_SDK/Tools and install Android_ANTSupportChecker_1-2-0.apk. This app will run an ANT+ selftest. It will show you if everthing is implemented fine. Can you upload a screenshot of this app please?
Ill test your rom with some ANT+ hardware in the next days.

LayerEight said:
Wow, this sounds amazing! Thanks so much for your effort.
Since i posted this "how to check if ANT+ is functional"-guide, i found out, that there is a easier and probably safer way.
Please go to https://github.com/ant-wireless/ANT-Android-SDKs/tree/master/ANT_Android_SDK/Tools and install Android_ANTSupportChecker_1-2-0.apk. This app will run an ANT+ selftest. It will show you if everthing is implemented fine. Can you upload a screenshot of this app please?
Ill test your rom with some ANT+ hardware in the next days.
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Here it is
Edit: replace the attached apk in /system/priv-app of the ROM package before install to enable/disable ant radio in airplane mode (will work only on clean install OR if you erase data for settings provider after initial setup)