Just a quick question:
What happens to system-dalvik-cache under /cache, if I resize this partition to e.g. 5 MB?
I've read somewhere that CM7 moves it to /data. true? Are there any other disadvantages of such a small cache-partition?
many thanks!
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Yes, on CM7, if the cache partition is too small, it will move it to the /data partition. I think it is /data/local/cache
Dalvik-cache never resides on /cache anyway. /cache is for Market and OS OTA downloads. If you make it too small - your Market downloads might fail.
I didn't even realize he was talking about dalvik cache. The dalvik cache resides on the /data partition by default for both system and data apps.
As Jack_R1 said, the cache is only used for temporary files, like OS upgrades and market downloads. If the cache partition gets below a certain point (I think it is 5MB), CM7 will automatically change the cache directory to the /data partition.
On my device the market download folder has already a symlink to my /data partition. Other then my system dalvik. At least it seems so.
Thanks for your help. So i can go ahead and resize with blackrose
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Hi, I've been putting some of my apps apks in /system/app, so that I have more free space in /data.
Mostly I just put apps there that I know I will never need to uninstall, like TiBackup, LauncherPro etc. When those apps update, I just manually move the newer apk into /system/app.
Question: Is it wrong to fill up /system to almost-full?
I know it's mounted read-only during normal use, so nothing else can write to it anyway.
Yup, I'd like to know tha answer to this question too!
I have heard of it being done quite abit. So it can't be that bad.
Yeah, it can't be that bad. But what if you filled it to 100%, is that bad?
Cache and data are housed in separate partitions as far as I know. So, I believe it's ok to fill it up completely, since most other things don't need write access to /system partition anyway. If it's not being written to during normal operation, then any free space on /system is basically wasted.
But I'd still like to hear from someone more knowledgeable if it is indeed fine to fill up the /system partition. Or if it's better to leave a certain amount of space, and how much space is recommended.
It depends on the ROM. If you're using CM, apps in the /system partition stores it's dalvik-cache in the /cache partition. So, if I am correct, more apps in the /system means less /cache space.
I tried putting LauncherPro in /system/apps and then removing it from /data/apps, but with no luck - it kept force closing on launch not ideal for a launcher! I haven't yet figured out why it wouldn't work, but I'm sure I'll get there in the end.
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geevee11 said:
It depends on the ROM. If you're using CM, apps in the /system partition stores it's dalvik-cache in the /cache partition. So, if I am correct, more apps in the /system means less /cache space.
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On CM6, /cache is a different partition than /system, so it shouldn't affect cache space.
I'll observe the free space for a few days without adding additional apps on /system. Right now, I have 15MB free on /system, and 39MB free on /cache. I'll report back in a while.
r8dhex said:
On CM6, /cache is a different partition than /system, so it shouldn't affect cache space.
I'll observe the free space for a few days without adding additional apps on /system. Right now, I have 15MB free on /system, and 39MB free on /cache. I'll report back in a while.
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I was talking about the dalvik-cache. Even if you install apps in the /system partition, it'll still have the dex files. So the more apps you put in your /system partition, the more your /cache will fill up = less ram.
I found out that apps in /system couldn't be updated through the market.
For instance: the facebook app that comes installed with google apps package of CM6 is installed in the /system dir of the phone. When I tried to update it through market it would fail every time. Once I deleted the app from /system and rebooted the phone, updating (installing) the app from market went fine.
Does wiping Dalvik-Cache have a negative effect on 1.6 donut roms? I was always under the impression that it causes market to crash (as i have performed numerous tests with my 1.6 rom to see if it had any effect).
Also, could someone tell me where dalvik-cache is located and what files are deleted in a normal wipe of data vs. a dalvik-cache wipe via recovery?
Thanks in advance.
e334 said:
Does wiping Dalvik-Cache have a negative effect on 1.6 donut roms? I was always under the impression that it causes market to crash (as i have performed numerous tests with my 1.6 rom to see if it had any effect).
Also, could someone tell me where dalvik-cache is located and what files are deleted in a normal wipe of data vs. a dalvik-cache wipe via recovery?
Thanks in advance.
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stock 1.6
dalvik-cache is
/data/dalvik-cache
CM4
/cache/dalvik-cache
if you wipe /data all files on data get removed, including dalvik-cache
and the market problem you describe is with cm4 and dangerspl
danger spl's cache is only 30mb , the dalvik-cache fills up /cache and leaves no room for market to download to
so some people hacked it by symlinking /cache/dalvik-cache to /data/dalvik-cache
but if you wipe cache ( with a factory reset ), it returns to /cache getting full again and market can't download
better to use a stock spl with CM4 OR these days use cmtd and have one large data partition
I hope that puts to rest any doubts you have
Some of you suggested using the cache partition for app cache - but when I use 'df' in Terminal Emulator it states that only 13604K of my 108544K cache partition are free.
When 'ls'-ing the /cache partition it lists files named "downloadfile.apk" to "downloadfile-34.apk".
Is this some OTA update?
That'd be strange, since the last (2.2.1) update came via PC only and i wiped everything that could be wiped via the recovery menu.
Furthermore the the creation dates of the .apks range from may to a few days ago.
But when I try to open them using Root Explorer it says "Error parsing package" and opening them via "View" gives me a blank screen.
Please enlighten me.
Thanks in advance
Those are temporary downloads from the market. Updates etc.
Does it only remove them on demand?
So I can remove them savely to make room for my appcache?
Once they're installed you can safely remove the apks in /cache
I was able to gain some space by wiping the dalvik cache so I'm gonna delay trying to use /cache
But I have one more question: several sources claim that using /cache for app-cache incompatible with App2SD - is that true?
I'm afraid I need some more clarification so I'm gonna push this thread...
I checked the sizes of my dalvik cache folder and /cache partition
df states that /cache has a total size of 108544K, 93793K used by .apk files I cannot open with Root Explorer and 13364K free
In my /data/dalvik-cache folder theres files summing up to 100956K
So they would barely fit in /cache if I delete all the .apks
I'm not sure if that would be a good idea...
Any suggestions?
GuYWith a deodexed and de-bloated Samsung Rom we have 500mb plus of free space on System partition which is wasted space.
I just tried something to free up some space for shared data/sdcard partition by moving Dalvik Cache from /data to /system then creating a folder link back in data to keep original location settings.
Took 30 seconds and freed up 260mb! This is what you do:
1. Using root explorer or similar. Go to /Data.
2. Navigate to "Dalvik-Cache" directory. Long press on it and select "move".
3. Navigate back to root directory and then to /System.
4. Paste the directory you must select rw first top right hand corner. It will take a minute to copy.
5. Now long press on the moved Dalvik-Cache directory in /System and select "Link to this folder" option.
6. Navigate back to /Data and paste the link.
7. Done! You now have moved the Dalvik-Cache location to unused space on System partition and left a sym-linked directory so Android thinks nothing has changed!
Note!: If you wipe Dalvik Cache from recovery a new directory will be recreated in Data and your moved directory in System will no longer be used it will just sit in System taking up space.
AFTER A DALVIK CACHE WIPE FROM RECOVERY YOU MUST DELETE THE DIRECTORY YOU CREATED IN SYSTEM AS IT IS NO LONGER USED. SIMPLY REPEAT THE ABOVE STEPS TO ACTIVATE THE MOD AGAIN.
Good luck. A REAL Dev could you please turn this into a CMW zip with the reverse undo counterpart to be flashed before a Rom upgrade.
UPDATE: looking at the link posted by a helpful person below (thanks!) I think we need to make /system mount as rw for this to work. Please help develop this idea more if anyone can help thanks
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Is it work on cm10? I have over 1gb free on system partition
jnr21 said:
Is it work on cm10? I have over 1gb free on system partition
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I'M not sure haven't used cm10 yet but it should do. Just discovered a Dalvik Cache wipe from recovery recreates the directory in Data to the MOD needs to be repeated after this... makes it very safe to try on cm10!
I'm hoping a real Dev can take this idea and bake it into to custom Rom's and find more data we can move to free up more space
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Hi,
Maybe it's possible to do this via init.d script? It will be more convenient.
It's possible via init.d script to move dalvik-cache to /cache for example... so...
Just a thought or simply move it to /cache.
EDIT:found this: http://petermolnar.eu/linux-tech-coding/how-to-move-dalvik-cache-to-system-partition-in-android/
Is this similar to the function "Integrate sys Dalvik into ROM" from Titanium Backup?
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Is this similar to the function "Integrate sys Dalvik into ROM" from Titanium Backup?
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Yeah I guess it is but if you do it through titanium the Dalvik Cache files are put with their apk files so wipe Dalvik Cache in recovery no longer works... Not 100% sure this is right tho
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viking37 said:
Hi,
Maybe it's possible to do this via init.d script? It will be more convenient.
It's possible via init.d script to move dalvik-cache to /cache for example... so...
Just a thought or simply move it to /cache.
EDIT:found this: http://petermolnar.eu/linux-tech-coding/how-to-move-dalvik-cache-to-system-partition-in-android/
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Yeah should be possible. I think a CWM zip would be best along with an undo version. I now have /Data/app directory moved so before a Rom update or nandroid backup it will be necessary to undo the move. I'll see if I can work out how to do this. Hopefully someone could help out. I'M not code literate yet lol!
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if u wanna free up the /data partition, it is a good and proper way to move the dalvik-cache elsewhere. but IMHO, the /system partition is not a good place to move to since by design the system partition is not suppose to have any frequent or unnecessary read write and thus it is ro by default. the other reason is its importance since it is the core part of the system. you can afford to pay for a corrupted data or cache partition but not the system partition since as long as the system files are save the whole system can be rebuilt in case of data loss etc
i am not against this trick and i only want to tell you my opinions. so if possible i would recommend u to put the dalvik cache somewhere else like the cache partition
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if u wanna free up the /data partition, it is a good and proper way to move the dalvik-cache elsewhere. but IMHO, the /system partition is not a good place to move to since by design the system partition is not suppose to have any frequent or unnecessary read write and thus it is ro by default. the other reason is its importance since it is the core part of the system. you can afford to pay for a corrupted data or cache partition but not the system partition since as long as the system files are save the whole system can be rebuilt in case of data loss etc
i am not against this trick and i only want to tell you my opinions. so if possible i would recommend u to put the dalvik cache somewhere else like the cache partition
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Yes I've discovered that it's prob not a good idea to leave System rw.... all that wasted space tho
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Yes I've discovered that it's prob not a good idea to leave System rw.... all that wasted space tho
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u can resize the system partition, and then reassign the disk space freed up to other partitions
NOTE: this is risky and may brick your phone
if you r interested, you can get some more info in my blog posts (based on I9000)
Free more available disk space from NAND - PART I
Free more available disk space from NAND - PART II
freeNANDmod - get more space from NAND - PART III
freeNANDmod - get more space from NAND - PART IV
- symbolic linked dalvik-cache directory may cause issues in some application, use the bind mount instead of this
- titanium backup feature (integrate dalvik-cache to rom) is not mean what you think. it is not for moving dalvik-cache to the system partition
edit: i writed a script what can do exactly what we need.
auto check the dalvik-cache already moved to the cache directory, if yes bind mount the directory. if not, moved the cache then bind mount
you can adjust the cache and the data partition in the beginning of the file, dont touch anything else! default is defined for the SGS3
log file is /cache/dalvik_mover.log
after a full cache wipe the script will be move the dalvik cache after the next reboot
just unzip and put this file to the /system/etc/init.d/ folder
then set the permission to 0755
reboot
this script is not using the system partition, so no need to remount the system as r/w. its used the cache partition what have more free space anyway and always writeable.
and the bind mount method is compatible with everything.
rlorange said:
GuYWith a deodexed and de-bloated Samsung Rom we have 500mb plus of free space on System partition which is wasted space.
I just tried something to free up some space for shared data/sdcard partition by moving Dalvik Cache from /data to /system then creating a folder link back in data to keep original location settings.
Took 30 seconds and freed up 260mb! This is what you do:
1. Using root explorer or similar. Go to /Data.
2. Navigate to "Dalvik-Cache" directory. Long press on it and select "move".
3. Navigate back to root directory and then to /System.
4. Paste the directory you must select rw first top right hand corner. It will take a minute to copy.
5. Now long press on the moved Dalvik-Cache directory in /System and select "Link to this folder" option.
6. Navigate back to /Data and paste the link.
7. Done! You now have moved the Dalvik-Cache location to unused space on System partition and left a sym-linked directory so Android thinks nothing has changed!
Note!: If you wipe Dalvik Cache from recovery a new directory will be recreated in Data and your moved directory in System will no longer be used it will just sit in System taking up space.
AFTER A DALVIK CACHE WIPE FROM RECOVERY YOU MUST DELETE THE DIRECTORY YOU CREATED IN SYSTEM AS IT IS NO LONGER USED. SIMPLY REPEAT THE ABOVE STEPS TO ACTIVATE THE MOD AGAIN.
Good luck. A REAL Dev could you please turn this into a CMW zip with the reverse undo counterpart to be flashed before a Rom upgrade.
UPDATE: looking at the link posted by a helpful person below (thanks!) I think we need to make /system mount as rw for this to work. Please help develop this idea more if anyone can help thanks
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Yes, to get this working you need a system mounted Always in r/w.
So i suggest you to move dalvik on cache partition.
And it's better to do the mod inside ramdisk
vadonka said:
- symbolic linked dalvik-cache directory may cause issues in some application, use the bind mount instead of this
- titanium backup feature (integrate dalvik-cache to rom) is not mean what you think. it is not for moving dalvik-cache to the system partition
edit: i writed a script what can do exactly what we need.
auto check the dalvik-cache already moved to the cache directory, if yes bind mount the directory. if not, moved the cache then bind mount
you can adjust the cache and the data partition in the beginning of the file, dont touch anything else! default is defined for the SGS3
log file is /cache/dalvik_mover.log
after a full cache wipe the script will be move the dalvik cache after the next reboot
just unzip and put this file to the /system/etc/init.d/ folder
then set the permission to 0755
reboot
this script is not using the system partition, so no need to remount the system as r/w. its used the cache partition what have more free space anyway and always writeable.
and the bind mount method is compatible with everything.
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thank you very much works perfect
Am trying to use this app but I keep getting no root access warning which I have granted multiple times. Also, I read somewhere that I should clear cache and delvic cache, already did that too. What else am I missing? Should I format in ext2? I formatted my 2nd partition for ext4