I am very interested in trying the XT883 radio because its compatibility with more GSM providers. However, I am currently a Verizon subscriber and I want to find out what to expect in CDMA after loading up the XT883 radio.
My phone is rooted and unlocked, by the way. I think I am asking the internal differences between XT883 and XT862. Can someone shed light on this?
Thanks.
From what I've seen of the software floating around, I suspect there's no hardware differences between the two CDMA models, it's all in software and RadioComm settings.
But I've not taken any steps to confirm this, and won't until I have an SBF available so I can undo any hideously broken experimentation and get back to the phone I currently am quite happy with. ^_^
I did the comparison on the speci of these two. They differ in talk time, standby time, and wifi. While the talk time / standby time could be related to reporting convention for its intended customers, I do feel there should be hardware differences. Just don't know what to expect if loading up the XT883 radio on 862, and if the difference can be reversed by putting its own radio back.
Also, will loading XT883 radio override the hotspot hack?
Thanks.
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newshook said:
I did the comparison on the speci of these two. They differ in talk time, standby time, and wifi. While the talk time / standby time could be related to reporting convention for its intended customers, I do feel there should be hardware differences.
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You have to take the published pages with a grain of salt.
Consider these:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/C...ervices/Mobile-Phones/ci.MOTO-XT883-CN-ZH.alt
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/C...ces/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-ME863-CN-ZH.alt
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/H...rvices/Mobile+Phones/ci.MILESTONE-3-HK-ZH.alt
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/H...rvices/Mobile+Phones/ci.Milestone-3-HK-EN.alt
That's the XT883, the ME863 China model, and the Chinese and English versions of the ME863 Hong Kong model.
You may note that translation to Chinese loses 40mAh of battery size, and somehow the ME863 in Hong Kong gets more than double the talk time, with the same battery and standby time.
It's true that the XT883 is an older product page, but the Chinese ME863 is the newest product page of the lot. (It's new since I last looked at this, for example.)
That said, it's entirely possible that the Verizon Droid 3 has better standby battery life, because it's already received a system update the Asia-Pacific devices have not.
And again, I'm not totally sure, but I _believe_ the XT883 and Droid 3 shipped with Android 2.3.4. My retail Hong Kong ME863 has Android 2.3.5, but perhaps the ME863s in China are still on 2.3.4 and that's why their talk-time is lower?
I've lost track of what the Droid 3 is on. The Bell XT860s have 2.3.6 coming, and that seems to be offering a lot of improvements. They had 2.3.4 before, although the XT860s in South America had 2.3.5 include.
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...obile-Phones/ci.DROID-3-by-MOTOROLA-US-EN.alt
As far as the Wifi difference, I really doubt Motorola's manufacturing a version without 802.11n unless there's some regulation in the Chinese market that demands such. Maybe 802.11n isn't certified there for use in unlicensed radio bands, so they can't advertise it. I don't know.
What I do know is that as far as I can see, my ME863 (Hong Kong retail)'s firmware incuded what appeared to be chunks of the Droid 3 stock firmware in unused space, indicating that the build process is to make 'em all, flash 'em with the Droid 3, and then send a batch of 'em that're China-bound to be reflashed with the Chinese-language firmware. (Which amongst other things repartitions things so that preinstall is tiny and unused, and makes the internal SD card slightly bigger. Which is why you can't use Safestrap's aternative boot on them yet.)
I guess the summary is that I see nothing that suggests hardware differences exept the presence of CDMA-specific electronics on the (same) radio chipset. I'm _assuming_ CDMA circuitry is left out, not just disabled.
There is a great recovery thread for use with moto-fastboot, which I used to get my xt862 back to stock. It had xt883 ROM running when I bought it, but I had other issues that I wanted to fix, so I went stock again. After that, I just used the xt883 radio.img and build.prop tweaks to get it working on gsm. I'm almost sure you could use the phone on either gsm or cdma after making these changes, but would it hurt to try and let us know? You can easily get back to stock...I don't have a free Verizon line to try it on myself, else I would lol.
Good luck!
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I have been working on development for a proof of concept application that requires AT&T 3G on the Nexus One. As I finish, I needed to deliver the app on phones to my customer--now I can only get T-Mobile version of the N1!
Why did Google/HTC pull the AT&T version from distribution?
I have a bad feeling by posting this, someone will provide "helpful" comments that I don't need to run an app on a particular carrier, or I can run a TM phone on AT&T--both technically true, but trust me, I have a special case that requires AT&T 3G enabled phones.
I don't think it will work, but I am going to try and reflash a TM N1 with the AT&T radio image and see if that works. I suspect not, since I read somewhere around here that the phones have different power amps. I will let you know...
wrong forum
flashing the at&t radio image to t-mobile hardware will not work don't waster your time
google has not given a reason for no AT&T dev phone only have said "at this time there are no plans to offer the version that is capable of 3G speeds on AT&T and Rogers networks."
Yeah, your best bet is to look on ebay/craigslist or even at the marketplace here on the XDA forums for one. I'm glad I got one before they are gone, but I'm sure you can still find one by looking.
Looks like there is one on sale for $500 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752127
Flashing the radio won't do anything because both phones already use the same radio file. There's no such thing as an ATT radio for the nexus, they all use the same single radio file.
Ebay is your best bet, or Craig list.
Radio image doesn't do anything.
The phones' hardware is different. You just have to get the AT&T version from ebay/craigslist.
Also, check out this guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753476
Does your application *absolutely* have to run on an N1?
Cause it's worth pointing out... Telus (Canada) has now released the substantially similar HTC Desire. It's SIM-unlockable, cheaper than an N1, runs the right frequencies for AT&T 3G... and the ROM it comes with is rootable. If your application doesn't play well with Sense UI you can load a ROM such as OpenDesire which is basically stock Froyo.
So if you're in a real bind and you can't get your hands on enough Nexus Ones (Nexii?), this one might be worth consideration.
Hy guys,
I've been reading on that thread for few days and one question raised in my head.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790984
And that post
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8299301&postcount=18
If I buy an International (European or other version) of the Galaxy I9000 that doesn't support frequencies HSPA 850MHz from scratch, do you think it has the same hardware as the Bell Canada one ans that it's just the firmware that enable or disable those frequencies?
If so, it may be interresting to try flashing one Internal version of the I9000 with the CSC and Phone file from firmware UGJH2 and see if it enable the 850MHz HSPA frequency.
If that work, that means that International and/or European unlocked I9000 phone are exactly same hardware and that, We could buy them and use them with Bell and other providers in Canada instead of buying a Bell one.
short answer no
it has been tested and re-tested by several people already
it doesn't work
but feel free to try if you have the time and money to spare
if you want the I9000M (3g 850/1900/2100) you can get it off ebay if you don't care about the 3 button issue, but if you do care about the 3 button thing, you can ping me
Wow thanks alot AllGamer for the quick reply. Sorry if that thread is a double post because I haven't seen one talking about this specifically. I've seen alot about the 850Mhz lost after flashing firmware thow...
So if I understand it correctly... the only option we have is to buy a I9000M from Bell and do the 3 buttons fix from that thread in order to be able to unlock and upgrade...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784704
I still don't get why those big compagnies does different hardware versions of the same phone for different regions.... that must cost more money...lol
P.S. anyone know if Bell allow us to buy that phone full price (499$) without even activating it or we really need to get it activated for a month even at full price???
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I still don't get why those big compagnies does different hardware versions of the same phone for different regions.... that must cost more money...lol
P.S. anyone know if Bell allow us to buy that phone full price (499$) without even activating it or we really need to get it activated for a month even at full price???
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correct in all counts
yes, it's kinda stupid they have released more than 8 different variants of the same phone, each of them with just minor changes in hardware/software
like with TV, no TV
with Front Camera, no FC
with Upload speed cut off, Full speed upload (USA AT&T)
with Flash, with no Flash
with more storage, with less storage
with keyboard, without keyboard
with these radio bands, without that radio band
with... bah just too many
I have no clue how they keep up with all the different branches of the same tree
re: Bell...
nope, they do have an activation fee when you purchase it, even when you but it off at full price, the total is roughly $650~680 including all the taxes, activation, shipping materials, shipping, packaging, all the other crazy fees the Bell and the government charges
Just by curiosity.. Do you know a version of that phone that work with 850MHz but include the flash for the camera?
That would be nice to have a flash included with it
The flash is on the CDMA Galaxy S for Verizon only. I don't think this device can be unlocked but anyways I don't think you would want a CDMA smartphone in Canada.
he can always hook it up to Telus or Bell, both runs on CDMA
but you are right CDMA kinda sucks, you can't travel to Europe or most other countries with it.
Yep and since CDMA is way slower than HSPA, that would be useless....the only time we use CDMA is in the regions where HSPA isn't working...
Thanks all for your reply
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he can always hook it up to Telus or Bell, both runs on CDMA
but you are right CDMA kinda sucks, you can't travel to Europe or most other countries with it.
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Bell or Telus will not allow anyone to hook up another carriers CDMA phone. This is NOT an option.
In relation to this same question somewhat...What about a hardware transplant from a Bell Vibrant to a European i9000?
Does anyone know what radio chipset the Bell Vibrant uses and what radio chipset the European i9000 uses? I've seen two different radio chipsets for the i9000, one from Qualcomm and one from Triquint:
Qualcomm RTR8265: (Maybe the Korean i9000?)
http://translate.google.com/transla....com/News_List_View.php?nModeC=4&nSeq=1742568
Triquint TQM6M26028L: (Maybe the Singapore and European i9000?)
http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/
http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/galaxy-s-disassembly-28.jpg
Unless I'm reading all 3 disassembly wrong, they have conflicting info in regards to the radio being used. Maybe the radio chipset being used is dependent on the region where the i9000 is from? Can any one confirm? I plan on purchasing an international i9000 to replace my bricked i9000M and would like to see if I could transplant certain parts to see if I could get the 850 MHz via hardware. I plan to disassemble my bricked Bell Vibrant once my toolkit comes in and take some pictures so maybe it'll be of help to people in the future.
Electroz said:
Bell or Telus will not allow anyone to hook up another carriers CDMA phone. This is NOT an option.
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not sure where you got that from but i worked for Telus and we hooked up quite a bunch of USA verizon/sprint CDMA phones online.
we used to do a IMEI check first to make sure it was not blacklisted before signing them up for a plan with their phone
is there an easy way to find this out without taking apart the phone?
dawgpound6985 said:
In relation to this same question somewhat...What about a hardware transplant from a Bell Vibrant to a European i9000?
Does anyone know what radio chipset the Bell Vibrant uses and what radio chipset the European i9000 uses? I've seen two different radio chipsets for the i9000, one from Qualcomm and one from Triquint:
Qualcomm RTR8265: (Maybe the Korean i9000?)
http://translate.google.com/transla....com/News_List_View.php?nModeC=4&nSeq=1742568
Triquint TQM6M26028L: (Maybe the Singapore and European i9000?)
http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/
http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/galaxy-s-disassembly-28.jpg
Unless I'm reading all 3 disassembly wrong, they have conflicting info in regards to the radio being used. Maybe the radio chipset being used is dependent on the region where the i9000 is from? Can any one confirm? I plan on purchasing an international i9000 to replace my bricked i9000M and would like to see if I could transplant certain parts to see if I could get the 850 MHz via hardware. I plan to disassemble my bricked Bell Vibrant once my toolkit comes in and take some pictures so maybe it'll be of help to people in the future.
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AllGamer said:
not sure where you got that from but i worked for Telus and we hooked up quite a bunch of USA verizon/sprint CDMA phones online.
we used to do a IMEI check first to make sure it was not blacklisted before signing them up for a plan with their phone
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Thats pretty weird then. CDMA phones don't even have an IMEI. That is a gsm/hsdpa specific number.....
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you said IMEI people will understand what it is
you tell them ESN they will be like "wuuaaat number?"
cust: "my old number before DC?"
me: NO
Your number under the battery compartment or box that came in...
cust: "wuaaat? where?"
me: ohh... never mind, just give me the phone
cust: "here"
me: where's the sticker?
cust: "i peeled it, it didn't look good" (that happened once)
another time was
me: where's the sticker?, it's all smudged & worn out!
cust: "i dunno"...
needless to say both cases were denied, no IMEI/ESN can't register them
a couple of times we did get some black listed ESN from verizon/sprint, also denied on those cases
most of the time they are okay, and can easily be joined to the network, the only trouble was finding the re-programing instruction for those Odd phones as we knew by memory the models we sold, but anything weird will take some times.
we always charged extra for that.
Okay so quick update and something quite interesting. I'm disassembling my Vibrant right now and the piece where the antenna connects is labeled i9000T. More to come in a new thread.
dawgpound6985 said:
Okay so quick update and something quite interesting. I'm disassembling my Vibrant right now and the piece where the antenna connects is labeled i9000T. More to come in a new thread.
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ohhhhhhhh wow! so we got a Latin America model inside?!
AllGamer said:
ohhhhhhhh wow! so we got a Latin America model inside?!
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Seems to be one part. Check out the pictures here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8395614#post8395614
<farnsworth> Good news everybody! </farnsworth> I have the european i9000 (900/1900/2100) which I bought unlocked in New York City and have been using (with 3g/HSPA) on AT&T.
When I came home to canada, I got a bell sim card (as I have a bell plan, previously with a CDMA phone). When I started the phone, all I was getting was voice, and I was very dissapointed.
I decided to see if Rogers or Tellus would work (as somebody told me they use 1900 more than 850), and when the rogers guy tried his sim, it was the same story. THEN he figured out that for this phone, you have to manually enter the APN info for the canadian carrier. He tried it on my phone, and I started picking up EDGE.
I immediately called bell tech support for the same info, and they refered me to the website. I entered the bell APN info in the settings menu and I now have HSPA on bell in Canada on my european i9000! Spread the word!
mthiffau said:
<farnsworth> Good news everybody! </farnsworth> I have the european i9000 (900/1900/2100) which I bought unlocked in New York City and have been using (with 3g/HSPA) on AT&T.
When I came home to canada, I got a bell sim card (as I have a bell plan, previously with a CDMA phone). When I started the phone, all I was getting was voice, and I was very dissapointed.
I decided to see if Rogers or Tellus would work (as somebody told me they use 1900 more than 850), and when the rogers guy tried his sim, it was the same story. THEN he figured out that for this phone, you have to manually enter the APN info for the canadian carrier. He tried it on my phone, and I started picking up EDGE.
I immediately called bell tech support for the same info, and they refered me to the website. I entered the bell APN info in the settings menu and I now have HSPA on bell in Canada on my european i9000! Spread the word!
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Go outside of a large metropolitan area and report back. Or maybe you could even try reading this thread....
Is there a XT860 Radio Image or sbf / fastboot file that
will work on gsm (U.S. Bands, I.E. T-Mobile)?
instead of the chinese one, you know!
We have fastboot files from Brazil, Argentina and Mexico. All of these will work on an XT860 and GSM bands. Check out this thread for details and downloads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370721
As far as I know, these will not give you H+, only 3G speeds. Currently the only way to have H+ on an XT860 is to be on the Bell Firmware, which we do NOT yet have an SBF for.
Hope that helps.
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We have fastboot files from Brazil, Argentina and Mexico. All of these will work on an XT860 and GSM bands. Check out this thread for details and downloads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370721
As far as I know, these will not give you H+, only 3G speeds. Currently the only way to have H+ on an XT860 is to be on the Bell Firmware, which we do NOT yet have an SBF for.
Hope that helps.
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i could flash em :/
If you have an xt860 afaik any firmware will work on american gsm though T-Mobile will ply get edge speeds. If you have an xt862 I do not know if xt860 radio.img will work on an xt862. They have different radio hardware
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If you have an xt860 afaik any firmware will work on american gsm though T-Mobile will ply get edge speeds. If you have an xt862 I do not know if xt860 radio.img will work on an xt862. They have different radio hardware
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afaik they all have the exact same hardware, idk i have a 62, but i want a better radio, the chinese is INDECIPHERABLE :/, i would like 3g going on tmo which i'm pretty sure possible just not on the chinese radio image, also i can flash the 60's image, i just need a proper(er) img (Hopefully bell's) And a build prop to go with it, i'm making a "Ghetto Fastboot"
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afaik they all have the exact same hardware, idk i have a 62, but i want a better radio, the chinese is INDECIPHERABLE :/, i would like 3g going on tmo which i'm pretty sure possible just not on the chinese radio image, also i can flash the 60's image, i just need a proper(er) img (Hopefully bell's) And a build prop to go with it, i'm making a "Ghetto Fastboot"
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As far as I know the best you can do with T-Mobile is edge speeds due to them using a band neither device ca use. I wish you the best of luck, if you succeed im sure others would be interested in your results
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As far as I know the best you can do with T-Mobile is edge speeds due to them using a band neither device ca use. I wish you the best of luck, if you succeed im sure others would be interested in your results
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Thanks!! we'll see how it goes
T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for its 3G. These phones do not have compatibility with that frequency. This is what I was trying to tell you before, when I said T-Mobile's 4G is not compatible: it's the same exact network. 3G=4G, only they call it 4G when your phone is capable of greater speeds due to more advanced radio technology, not a different frequency.
T-Mobile only uses 1900 MHz for Edge, and 2100 won't work because it's 4G only, and won't work if you don't also have access to 1700, which is for both 3G and 4G. I hope this makes sense.
I'm glad you made your own thread to deal with this issue, and I hope I am wrong and that someone more knowledgeable comes along and corrects me and tells us all how to make it work. If you figure it out I will apologize as well. However, I just want it to be clear that no one who has made gsm work on the D3 has been able to (let alone interested in) getting 3G/4G to work on T-Mobile. I have assumed it is because it's an incompatibility problem between the hardware of these phones and the network you're trying to use.
Even if you had an xt860, it wouldn't work on 3G on T-Mobile, so using their radio.img and build.prop won't help on the xt862. Just because you can flash them doesn't mean they will work.
By all means, please post results and let me know if I'm wrong. As I said, I would prefer to be wrong in this case, but I don't think I am.
By the way, the xt883 radio.img shouldn't change the functionality of the phone beyond letting it connect to gsm in the US. I really don't see what your gripe is with it. Not that I'm offended or something; who cares. But I use it every day and haven't seen any results worth frowning over, let alone trying to switch to the xt860's which is not at all compatible with CDMA.
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T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for its 3G. These phones do not have compatibility with that frequency. This is what I was trying to tell you before, when I said T-Mobile's 4G is not compatible: it's the same exact network. 3G=4G, only they call it 4G when your phone is capable of greater speeds due to more advanced radio technology, not a different frequency.
T-Mobile only uses 1900 MHz for Edge, and 2100 won't work because it's 4G only, and won't work if you don't also have access to 1700, which is for both 3G and 4G. I hope this makes sense.
I'm glad you made your own thread to deal with this issue, and I hope I am wrong and that someone more knowledgeable comes along and corrects me and tells us all how to make it work. If you figure it out I will apologize as well. However, I just want it to be clear that no one who has made gsm work on the D3 has been able to (let alone interested in) getting 3G/4G to work on T-Mobile. I have assumed it is because it's an incompatibility problem between the hardware of these phones and the network you're trying to use.
Even if you had an xt860, it wouldn't work on 3G on T-Mobile, so using their radio.img and build.prop won't help on the xt862. Just because you can flash them doesn't mean they will work.
By all means, please post results and let me know if I'm wrong. As I said, I would prefer to be wrong in this case, but I don't think I am.
By the way, the xt883 radio.img shouldn't change the functionality of the phone beyond letting it connect to gsm in the US. I really don't see what your gripe is with it. Not that I'm offended or something; who cares. But I use it every day and haven't seen any results worth frowning over, let alone trying to switch to the xt860's which is not at all compatible with CDMA.
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That's how i've understood it, our devices lack the 1700 band. It will work on t-mobile network, but only at edge speeds. I do believe this has been tried. I also don't think an xt860 radio.img will work as expected on an xt862, but i wish him the best of luck. I would like to use t-mobile when i travel to the states, they have a really good pay per day plan compared to others i looked at(although for a week at a time i can live with edge speeds). and yes, xt860 is GSM only if the flash does work there will be no CDMA functionality
bp.img VS radio.img
What is the difference between bp.img and radio.img ?
Is it the same file ?
SX86 said:
What is the difference between bp.img and radio.img ?
Is it the same file ?
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Open in a Hex Editor to compare. I don't think they are the same... I took apart all of the files in the latest Bell update with no success, as well I tried dd'ing all of the different partition blocks to my phone just before sending it into the shop to get Bell firmware re-loaded onto it and didn't get any luck... in the end it was basically an encrypted bootloader problem.
If we can get the phone bootloader-unlocked we *might* be able to use some of the dd images that were created (I have each partition from bell 2.3.4) flashed through RSD then do the upgrade to the latest Bell, which overwrites the radio and boot partitions...
Let me know if anybody is interested in them. Please note, they the whole partitions and have extra padding on them. Also, I think I missed /preinstall, but I can't remember.
I created a new thread for this... again it's the original Bell stuff 2.3.4. I can probably do the same thing for the current Firmware as well.
Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1449027 for the 2.3.4 dd images
I've never seen/heard of that first one you mentioned before.
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I've never seen/heard of that first one you mentioned before.
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its in a candian rom, no its not the same, don't try to flash you'll mess up ur phone
So... did anyone try the XT860 radio on the XT862?
Quick question, had the XT862, which was having some issues with the camera, so I unrooted and using my warranty. They (vzw) sent me the new phone next day (wow) but when I looked on the backside behind where the battery sits, it says it's a XT861. I googled this XT861, and I can't seem to find any information on it really, except that the parts are the same for all XT860, 1, 2 models. Same as the XT862 I assume?
I have 5 business days to return my old phone... but should be the same (XT861 should be rootable, right?)
Adding pictures.
http://db.tt/mlh1k7Tn
So far, all I can see is that the xt861 has no vzw logo on it....
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Update: called vzw, and they were useless. Called motorola, took them 1 hour to find out that the xt861 model is the exact replica of the xt862, but also called the milestone 3 (that makes no sense cuz its labeled xt883)..and was ment to be a non vzw phone.
Anyone want to gander on this? Imma turn it on and see if anything is really different..... *sigh
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Probably a typo on the label.
yanger said:
Update: called vzw, and they were useless. Called motorola, took them 1 hour to find out that the xt861 model is the exact replica of the xt862, but also called the milestone 3 (that makes no sense cuz its labeled xt883)..and was ment to be a non vzw phone.
Anyone want to gander on this? Imma turn it on and see if anything is really different..... *sigh
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To my knowledge there are three versions of the phone;
XT862; Verizon Motorola Droid 3 (global phone CDMA/GSM)
XT883; Chinese Milestone 3 (Same hardware as D3, different partitions, can be flashed fully with D3 SBF/FXZ as I recall)
XT860; Motorola XT860 4G (GSM only version)
It's either a misprint, knockoff, or hidden revision that was never really publicized. Can you confirm if it has both CDMA/GSM radios?
Yep. has both radios.
It's running:
System Ver: 5.7.906.XT862.Verizon.en.US
Model number: DROID3
Android: 2.3.4
Baseband: N_03.18.32P
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-g5fa4155 / [email protected] #1
Build: 5.5.1_84_D3G-66_M2-10
ERI: 5
PRL: 52868
Currently on moble network: CDMA - EvDo rev.A
can be switched from Global to CDMA or GSM/UMTS.
.... o. noticed something different. APNs have something in it. when GSM is selected...
Vodafone-NL (emgsm.vzw3g.com) and Vodafone-NL (dungsm.vzw3g.com)
(note: i don't remember seeing those before, but I can't remember now either..)
added image of software to photos list...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6n3y165iilvn8y6/D3XT861-Software.jpg
odd, playing with the mobile settings enabled 3G + Wifi ;\ but in reality, still on Wifi. Odd..
yanger said:
Yep. has both radios.
It's running:
System Ver: 5.7.906.XT862.Verizon.en.US
Model number: DROID3
Android: 2.3.4
Baseband: N_03.18.32P
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-g5fa4155 / [email protected] #1
Build: 5.5.1_84_D3G-66_M2-10
ERI: 5
PRL: 52868
Currently on moble network: CDMA - EvDo rev.A
can be switched from Global to CDMA or GSM/UMTS.
.... o. noticed something different. APNs have something in it. when GSM is selected...
Vodafone-NL (emgsm.vzw3g.com) and Vodafone-NL (dungsm.vzw3g.com)
(note: i don't remember seeing those before, but I can't remember now either..)
added image of software to photos list...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6n3y165iilvn8y6/D3XT861-Software.jpg
odd, playing with the mobile settings enabled 3G + Wifi ;\ but in reality, still on Wifi. Odd..
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Those APNs are there because of the Vodafone SIM inside the phone. Also; only one data source will be connected at once, either Wifi or 3G, except for if you send an MMS while on wifi, it'll connect to 3G to send it.
I really think it was a typo.
Sent from my XT883 using xda app-developers app
The screenshot you show of the XT861 shows its running XT862 software, so I imagine you could just consider it an XT862.
MrObvious said:
I really think it was a typo.
Sent from my XT883 using xda app-developers app
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It's an actual model; Chinese version. It's listed in Motorola's update schedule to remain on Gingerbread.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Here's the update schedule;
MILESTONE 3 XT883 (China)
Will remain on Gingerbread (Android 2.3).
XT861 (China)
Will remain on Gingerbread (Android 2.3)
These are both listed in the Asia-Pacific region of that chart. Though I cannot find much specific to the XT861 besides it being labeled as a Motorola Milestone 3, whereas the XT883 is just 'Motorola XT883'
Appears to be identical to the XT862, just sold in the Chinese market without the Verizon logo.
Motorola probably had to flash these with XT862 software for Verizon warranty replacements. Guess the XT862 stock ran out.
Nothing to worry about.
But the chinese version has blue keyboard highlights and other keys. http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/motorola/motorola-xt883/motorola-xt833-2.jpg
is the bootloader unlocked? probably not
are the US bands unlocked ???
If they're running out of stock, maybe this might be a good time for anyone considering any warranty fixes to take a chance on sending it in and possibly getting a free upgrade. What do you think, any possibility there? I'm not with VZW, but Moto says my D3 is still on their warranty, and I've been thinking of sending it in to get my hardware keyboard fixed. I've got one of the ones that frequently misses and/or sticks.
Edited to add: XT861 seems to be a pretty obscure model. I can't find anything on Google for specs, only mentions of accessories and spare parts, all of which seem to be interchangeable with the XT860 and XT862, not that that helps much.
5318008 said:
If they're running out of stock, maybe this might be a good time for anyone considering any warranty fixes to take a chance on sending it in and possibly getting a free upgrade. What do you think, any possibility there? I'm not with VZW, but Moto says my D3 is still on their warranty, and I've been thinking of sending it in to get my hardware keyboard fixed. I've got one of the ones that frequently misses and/or sticks.
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So do I, unfortunately my 1 year warranty ended in July and the keyboard didn't start getting bad til August, go figure. Seeing how decent QWERTY phones keep getting rarer, I guess its time to get used to soft keyboards. But I would love to see them make a QWERTY Razr M, allowing a 4.3" screen without making the phone any bigger.
The photon q is nice
spunker88 said:
So do I, unfortunately my 1 year warranty ended in July and the keyboard didn't start getting bad til August, go figure. Seeing how decent QWERTY phones keep getting rarer, I guess its time to get used to soft keyboards. But I would love to see them make a QWERTY Razr M, allowing a 4.3" screen without making the phone any bigger.
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if you bought the extended warranty, it may be longer than the 1 year warranty. i didn't know (forgot) that we were paying an extra $5.99/mth or something for extended warranty, so we had 1+ years of warranty service per the verizon tech support. the safe mode and other stuff they make you do is ridiculous though...
gierso said:
is the bootloader unlocked? probably not
are the US bands unlocked ???
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i don't think it is. how can i tell?
5318008 said:
Edited to add: XT861 seems to be a pretty obscure model. I can't find anything on Google for specs, only mentions of accessories and spare parts, all of which seem to be interchangeable with the XT860 and XT862, not that that helps much.
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agreed. did my research as well, and damned quiet on this.. i was really really hoping the XT861 would be a secret dev edition lol..
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But the chinese version has blue keyboard highlights and other keys. http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/motorola/motorola-xt883/motorola-xt833-2.jpg
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I posted pictures, and mine are standard puke orange colored... i DID notice, that at the top of the screen, right above to the right of the word MOTOROLA, a red light turns on every now and then. very faint red light. i don't remember how I got it to turn on.. never saw that on the XT862... i previously had...
Hi all,
I have a european 4a 5G, purchased in Germany. I am currently located in Germany, where I anticipate being for a few months (thanks, corona!). I am on TMobile US, which is the eSIM that's in the phone now, this gives me free super slow data roaming. I also have a second prepaid SIM from Tmobile Germany.
The phone is rooted, and I'm currently on the January generic stock: rq1a.210105.003. There's a February version for TMobile available: RQ1C.210205.006. Does it make sense for me to flash it? Do I lose any functionality? Do I gain any, due to my US SIM?
I understand that hardware-wise the euro bramble is missing a couple of radio bands. I also know that US pixels have additional functionality that's not available in other markets. Is that functionality tied to a US SIM/service provider, US hardware, physical location of the phone, or all of the above?
TIA!
Flashing a new factory image for a 4a 5G most likely will not improve the hardware. If anything, it might possibly improve the software connectivity with T-Mobile, but I wouldn't know about roaming and stuff since I have never travelled overseas. Of course, anything is possible. Maybe Google bundled a better driver/firmware or something for the wireless radios. I doubt it though. Also, you probably shouldn't flash a factory image for a different variant other than your own as that could lead to possibly bricking the device.
Also, I'm assuming you're talking about an OTA image? Factory images wipe out everything in the device and make you start everything from scratch. If you're talking about OTA image, it's just a software update for the phone. I know, weird Google terms.
I know this answer is kind of all over the place, but hopefully it makes a little sense.