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Keep nexus one or get Droid X?? ((video))

i was thinking of changing from the nexus one to droid X since its a huge screen with different 1Ghz processor i think its OMAP3630, What do you think
Here is a preview of the Droid X http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/

Does Kuwait have a CDMA network to use the Droid X on?

Rusty! said:
Does Kuwait have a CDMA network to use the Droid X on?
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Willing to bet they'll put out a GSM version, like they did with the original Droid. GSM version was called the Milestone.

Rusty! said:
Does Kuwait have a CDMA network to use the Droid X on?
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i dont think so but im sure a GSM version will be released later

tjsimmons said:
Willing to bet they'll put out a GSM version, like they did with the original Droid. GSM version was called the Milestone.
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Indeed they did.
However as it stands, the Droid X is the CDMA variant of The Motorola Somethingorother (possibly Shadow?) that doesn't exist yet.

Is it just me or are android phones getting way too large lately? This must feel absolutely huge when held against the face.
Anyway, if you have your Nexus One, keep it for as long as it serves you. I have a feeling it will continue to serve you (us) for a while.

They keep making the screen bigger, but the resolution stays the same. I don't see the point. It's a nice looking phone though.
I'll be sticking with my N1 for a while I'm sure. I just can't go back to buying carrier locked phones any more, especially when Canadian contracts are 3-years long. Now that Apple is selling the iPhone unlocked and direct-to-consumer it might just push the rest of the market to do the same.

PrawnPoBoy said:
They keep making the screen bigger, but the resolution stays the same. I don't see the point. It's a nice looking phone though.
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Probably better than shrinking the screen by a few mm and then multiplying the resolution width and height by 2, and then naming it "retina display".

Hardware difference: XT862 vs XT860 vs XT883

There are different versions of the Droid 3: XT862 (USA), XT860 (Canada), XT860 (Brazil), XT883 (China).
I'm wondering whether there are any differences in the hardware between these version, especially now that the Droid 3 has been rooted.
When looking the official Motorola specs, I find:
1) XT862 has HSDPA 10.2 Mbps in the consumer specs, but HSDPA 14.4 Mbps in the developer specs. Both are HSDPA category 9/10. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access, category 9 has a approximated max rate of 10.1 Mbps and category 10 has 14.0. So maybe Motorola took the value of category 9 instead of 10 when typing the consumer specs, while they should have listed the higher rate of category 10?
2) The Brazilian XT860 has HSUPA 7.6Mbps, while the Canadian XT860 and the XT862 have HSUPA 5.76 Mbps. But because the Brazilian and Canadian are both are XT860, I would expect this rate to be the same, instead of being different.
3) The XT860 doesn't have CDMA 800/1900 and CDMA EV-DO Release A, while the XT862 and XT883 do.
4) The XT862 and XT883 appear to be the same, although I haven't looked in the consumer specs of the XT883 (because it's in Chinese).
Rationaly, when a characteristic of device isn't listed in a specification, you cannot conclude that the device doesn't have that characteristic. The specification might simply be incomplete, but still be correct. But when a characteristic isn't listed for which you would expect it to be listed when would have that characteristic, then the specification suggest (but not conclude) that the device doesn't have that characteristic.
So rationaly, the XT860 might (or might not) have CDMA support, and the Canadian XT860 and the US XT862 might have the same higher HSUPA speed as the Brazilian XT860. And, according to the specs, the XT862 does support 14.4 Mbps HSDPA, although with doubt because the consumer specs list a lower value.
So based on the official specs it is difficult to derive the real maximum speed specs and all features
The best thing would be if someone physically opened all Droid 3 versions, and list the hardware chips. Like this:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-3-Teardown/6108/1
Which says the XT862 has the following hardware chips:
-Qualcomm MDM6600 supporting HSPA+ speeds of up to 14.4 Mbps
-SanDisk SDIN4C2 16GB MLC NAND flash
-Elpida B4064B2PB-8D-F 512MB RAM and TI OMAP 4430 CPU
-Triquint TQM7M5013 Linear Power Amplifier
-Avago A2F1106
-A5005 K1116, A5002 K1118, A5001 K1118
-Kionix KXTF9 11425 1411 three-axis accelerometer
-The Qualcomm PM8028 chip works in conjunction with the Qualcomm MDM6600 to provide wireless data connection to the phone.
-Hynix H8BCS0QG0MMR memory MCP containing Hynix DRAM and STM flash
-ST Ericsson CPCAP 006556001
-WL1285C 13M1HH3
-6792A 1113 T3971
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I expect that the XT883 has the same hardware. But the more interesting question is whether the XT860 also has this hardware.
From this list, when it comes to mobile networks, the most important part is probably the Qualcomm MDM6600 and maybe also the Qualcomm PM8028.
The specs of the MDM6600 can be found in http://www.docin.com/p-162606115.html . If I understand it correctly, it supports both CDMA and GSM networks.
But even if a mobile device has a MDM6600 in it, which by itself supports CDMA, it doesn't mean that the mobile device supports CDMA. This is the case for the IPhone 4, which comes in a GSM/AT&T version and a CDMA/Verizon version:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4-Verizon-Teardown/4693/1
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4-Teardown/3130/1
Interesting is the following quote for the CDMA/Verizon IPhone 4:
The Qualcomm MDM6600 chip supports HSPA+ data rates of up to 14.4 Mbps and CDMA2000® 1xEV-DO Rev. A/Rev. B.
This is the same chipset as the Droid Pro world phone. It supports both GSM and CDMA—which means that Apple could have supported GSM!
Why didn't they? It may be that it was easier to design antennas for a CDMA-only phone -- this phone supports two cellular frequency bands, while Apple supports five bands in the GSM version.
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So even when a phone has a chip that support CDMA, other parts of the phone might not (because of design reasons), causing the phone not to support CDMA.
But why would Motorola first release XT862 that supports both GSM and CDMA, and later release the XT860 with CDMA stripped off? I would expect that they would do this only if stripping CDMA from the XT860 would benefit some other feature. Any ideas?
Some info as reference for the different Droid 3 versions:
1)
-Name: Motorola Droid 3
-Code: XT862
-Country: USA
-Sold by: Verizon Wireless
-Release date: 14 July 2011
-Motorola Consumer specs link
-Motorola Developer specs link
2)
-Name: Motorola XT860
-Code: XT860
-Country: Canada
-Sold by: Bell
-Release date: 9 August 2011
-Notes: Called "XT860 4G" at the Motorola and Bell website, but the manual and box just says "XT860" without "4G" in the name.
-Motorola Consumer specs link
-Motorola Developer specs link
3)
-Name: Motorola MOTO XT883
-Code: XT883
-Country: China
-Release date: ~1-11 August 2011
-Note: Called "Milestone 3 XT883" at the Motorola Developer spec page.
-Motorola Consumer specs link
-Motorola Developer specs link
4)
-Name: Motorola Milestone 3
-Code: XT860
-Country: Brazil
-Sold by: Vivo
-Release date: ~18 August 2011
-Note: Sometimes called "Motorola Milestone 3 com Motoblur"
-Motorola Consumer specs link
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Speaking with a bit of experience with manufacturing, there isn't a lot of sense in making too many models, because the price savings based upon leaving out an antenna on one model would easily disappear in the context of devoting another production line to another model.
So, I have the strong impression that they are all cdma/gsm capable, though differences in firmware probably define the active radios.
This is a guess, though, so take it with a grain of salt.
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For us Europeans this is an interesting question, because if the XT860 and XT862 have the same hardware, there is no reason to get the XT860 other than it doesn't have the verizon logo (now that we have root).
The XT862 can already be ordered in unlocked state while the XT860 cannot.
I also would think that creating just 1 phone is way more convenient and way cheaper for motorola, so I'm curious as to whether all "droid 3's" are the identical.

CDMA only works in america, and a couple other small countries, and only on a couple carriers, so support for it ONLY makes sense in the XT862. the rest of that world went GSM and it's various 3g offshoots. the differences between the 860 & 883 are to support what those countries run on.

sarreq said:
CDMA only works in america, and a couple other small countries, and only on a couple carriers, so support for it ONLY makes sense in the XT862. the rest of that world went GSM and it's various 3g offshoots. the differences between the 860 & 883 are to support what those countries run on.
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But, like Sadrak86 said, from a manufacturing cost point of view, it doesn't make sense to simply remove CDMA support because it isn't used in another country. Why would Motorola release a global phone (Droid3/XT862) and then a month later release the same phone but this time non-global phone (XT860) by removing CDMA support. There must be a better reason.

I can understand them making specific versions of specific regions, but not with different hardware components if they could just disable them software-wise.

DoubleYouPee said:
I can understand them making specific versions of specific regions, but not with different hardware components if they could just disable them software-wise.
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I also think that if they can control it software wise without extra costs compared to hardware wise, they will choose software wise. But if the XT860 has CDMA removed software wise, than why didn't they remove GSM from the XT862.
This brings back the question: why would they first release a global phone (XT862), and later release the same phone (XT860) with less features and a higher price.
A reason could be that by removed hardware features (CDMA) from the XT860, other features (GSM) might perform better.
Found this page called Motorola XT860 4G Fact Sheet, but is more press release page. But it confirms that the XT860 has a QualComm MDM6600 (which supports both GSM and CDMA). The XT860 contains a GSM compatible antenna, but the question than is: does the XT860 also contain a CDMA compatible antenna?
This question is very interesting for all non-Americans. Because the following choice depends on it:
-Should you buy the cheaper, more widely available, and more network supporting global XT862? or
-Should you buy the more expensive, less widely available, less network support, but (possibly) better GSM signaled XT860?
At the moment we don't even know whether this option/choice exist. If this option doesn't exist, then there is NO reason at all to buy the XT860.
This (whether the XT860 has a CDMA antenna) is something that can only be proven by a teardown (physically open a XT860). I hope some guys will create an iFixit page for it.

deoxy said:
If this option doesn't exist, then there is NO reason at all to buy the XT860.
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Well unless you don't like the verizon logo
But ye you're right ^^^

There are plenty of reasons if you are GSM user. Verizon altered/disabled some GSM features of the phone like call forwarding settings for example. Droid 3 is certified/supported only with the Verizon SIM in it. There are already reported cases phone doesn't play nice on certain GSM networks across the world. Not to mention unlocking issues which were a wide spread issue with Droid 2 Global and there seem to be already one such case with D3 on this very same board. You can't use D3 on AT&T in the States either.
All those problems are easily overcome by going XT860 (pure GSM phone). Since I had to experience most of these above mentioned issues myself with my own Droid 2 Global in the past year, I went XT860 over D3. And I do not regret my choice. I do not use the phone on Bell (I unlocked and use with another operator in Canada), but I have no issues. I can go to the States and use the phone there just fine too.
So there are enough reasons to justify few bucks more when buying the phone.
Sent from my XT860 using Tapatalk

leobg said:
There are plenty of reasons if you are GSM user. Verizon altered/disabled some GSM features of the phone like call forwarding settings for example. Droid 3 is certified/supported only with the Verizon SIM in it.
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Can this be fixed by rooting the phone? If not, then the hardware must be different.
There are already reported cases phone doesn't play nice on certain GSM networks across the world.
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Maybe the user forgot to unlock the phone, or did it incorrectly?
Here a case:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/56763
(Don't know if he unlocked the phone.)
Not to mention unlocking issues which were a wide spread issue with Droid 2 Global and there seem to be already one such case with D3 on this very same board.
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This might equally be the case for the XT860? Probably too early to tell?
(Both the XT862 and the XT860 have Qualcomm MSM6600, according to the Motorola fact sheet. But it could also be the antenna that determines the quality of the signal, instead of the chip.)

that issue on the motorla forums is due to the phone not being able to read the mcc and mnc codes from the sim card. buying a new sim fixes it (at least in my personal experience)

deoxy said:
Can this be fixed by rooting the phone? If not, then the hardware must be different.
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No - because this is a baseband feature (radio firmware). You can't alter the radio image unless bootloader is unlocked as it is signed. Root will not help.
deoxy said:
Maybe the user forgot to unlock the phone, or did it incorrectly?
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I doubt - unlocking procedure is dead simple. And code is just 8 digits long. Good thing is you can't hard-lock the phone - after 1/2 hour being left on, or so, it will let you enter codes again.
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Here a case:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/56763
(Don't know if he unlocked the phone.)
This might equally be the case for the XT860? Probably too early to tell?
(Both the XT862 and the XT860 have Qualcomm MSM6600, according to the Motorola fact sheet. But it could also be the antenna that determines the quality of the signal, instead of the chip.)
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This is something the operator does. And the only one operator in the world I've ever seen doing this is Verizon. I doubt that would be a case with non-Verizon phones.
Above case is another example of issues with D3 and sim cards - D2G suffered same issues too. Using Verizon world phone with non-Verizon SIM card in it is a hit or miss, at best.

So how could we find out whether the baseband firmware is different on the XT860 than on the XT862?

The baseband firmware is absolutely different. One is a CDMA/GSM global device and the other is GSM only. Despite sharing the MDM6600 chipset, they are very different.

cellzealot said:
The baseband firmware is absolutely different. One is a CDMA/GSM global device and the other is GSM only. Despite sharing the MDM6600 chipset, they are very different.
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How do you know this? Motorola's factsheet says the XT860 supports CDMA.
Would it be possible to flash the XT860 firmware to the XT862 droid 3?

DoubleYouPee said:
How do you know this? Motorola's factsheet says the XT860 supports CDMA.
Would it be possible to flash the XT860 firmware to the XT862 droid 3?
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where did you see XT860 supporting CDMA???
btw if someone knows something about Motorola radios that would be Cell Zealot. You haven't heard of Team Black Hat??
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leobg said:
where did you see XT860 supporting CDMA???
btw if someone knows something about Motorola radios that would be Cell Zealot. You haven't heard of Team Black Hat??
Sent from my XT860 using Tapatalk
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Their own site
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/C...ces/Mobile-Phones/ci.MOTOROLA-XT860-CA-EN.alt
No I haven't heard from team black hat or CelL Zealot
edit: i saw his post now

It only lists WCDMA, which is not the same as CDMA. (The Droid 3 supports both.)

deoxy said:
It only lists WCDMA, which is not the same as CDMA. (The Droid 3 supports both.)
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Ah, i never noticed that. What is WCDMA then?

DoubleYouPee said:
Ah, i never noticed that. What is WCDMA then?
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Wikipedia says:
Code division multiple access (CDMA) is a channel access method used by various radio communication technologies. It should not be confused with the mobile phone standards called cdmaOne, CDMA2000 (the 3G evolution of cdmaOne) and WCDMA (the 3G standard used by GSM carriers), which are often referred to as simply CDMA, and use CDMA as an underlying channel access method.
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XT883 radio vs XT862 (D3) in CDMA mode

I am very interested in trying the XT883 radio because its compatibility with more GSM providers. However, I am currently a Verizon subscriber and I want to find out what to expect in CDMA after loading up the XT883 radio.
My phone is rooted and unlocked, by the way. I think I am asking the internal differences between XT883 and XT862. Can someone shed light on this?
Thanks.

From what I've seen of the software floating around, I suspect there's no hardware differences between the two CDMA models, it's all in software and RadioComm settings.
But I've not taken any steps to confirm this, and won't until I have an SBF available so I can undo any hideously broken experimentation and get back to the phone I currently am quite happy with. ^_^

I did the comparison on the speci of these two. They differ in talk time, standby time, and wifi. While the talk time / standby time could be related to reporting convention for its intended customers, I do feel there should be hardware differences. Just don't know what to expect if loading up the XT883 radio on 862, and if the difference can be reversed by putting its own radio back.
Also, will loading XT883 radio override the hotspot hack?
Thanks.
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newshook said:
I did the comparison on the speci of these two. They differ in talk time, standby time, and wifi. While the talk time / standby time could be related to reporting convention for its intended customers, I do feel there should be hardware differences.
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You have to take the published pages with a grain of salt.
Consider these:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/C...ervices/Mobile-Phones/ci.MOTO-XT883-CN-ZH.alt
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/C...ces/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-ME863-CN-ZH.alt
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/H...rvices/Mobile+Phones/ci.MILESTONE-3-HK-ZH.alt
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/H...rvices/Mobile+Phones/ci.Milestone-3-HK-EN.alt
That's the XT883, the ME863 China model, and the Chinese and English versions of the ME863 Hong Kong model.
You may note that translation to Chinese loses 40mAh of battery size, and somehow the ME863 in Hong Kong gets more than double the talk time, with the same battery and standby time.
It's true that the XT883 is an older product page, but the Chinese ME863 is the newest product page of the lot. (It's new since I last looked at this, for example.)
That said, it's entirely possible that the Verizon Droid 3 has better standby battery life, because it's already received a system update the Asia-Pacific devices have not.
And again, I'm not totally sure, but I _believe_ the XT883 and Droid 3 shipped with Android 2.3.4. My retail Hong Kong ME863 has Android 2.3.5, but perhaps the ME863s in China are still on 2.3.4 and that's why their talk-time is lower?
I've lost track of what the Droid 3 is on. The Bell XT860s have 2.3.6 coming, and that seems to be offering a lot of improvements. They had 2.3.4 before, although the XT860s in South America had 2.3.5 include.
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...obile-Phones/ci.DROID-3-by-MOTOROLA-US-EN.alt
As far as the Wifi difference, I really doubt Motorola's manufacturing a version without 802.11n unless there's some regulation in the Chinese market that demands such. Maybe 802.11n isn't certified there for use in unlicensed radio bands, so they can't advertise it. I don't know.
What I do know is that as far as I can see, my ME863 (Hong Kong retail)'s firmware incuded what appeared to be chunks of the Droid 3 stock firmware in unused space, indicating that the build process is to make 'em all, flash 'em with the Droid 3, and then send a batch of 'em that're China-bound to be reflashed with the Chinese-language firmware. (Which amongst other things repartitions things so that preinstall is tiny and unused, and makes the internal SD card slightly bigger. Which is why you can't use Safestrap's aternative boot on them yet.)
I guess the summary is that I see nothing that suggests hardware differences exept the presence of CDMA-specific electronics on the (same) radio chipset. I'm _assuming_ CDMA circuitry is left out, not just disabled.

There is a great recovery thread for use with moto-fastboot, which I used to get my xt862 back to stock. It had xt883 ROM running when I bought it, but I had other issues that I wanted to fix, so I went stock again. After that, I just used the xt883 radio.img and build.prop tweaks to get it working on gsm. I'm almost sure you could use the phone on either gsm or cdma after making these changes, but would it hurt to try and let us know? You can easily get back to stock...I don't have a free Verizon line to try it on myself, else I would lol.
Good luck!
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Can this device the 4G one work on tmobile Hugh speed network?

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Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mhz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.

cambertoe said:
Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mgz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.
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WHOA!, are you saying you are getting HSPA+ on TMobile!?
can you PM me a link how to do this. I have my tab rooted, but no roms installed yet. Do you have the links for the roms? What recovery are you using to flash?
Thanks!

BriCo84 said:
WHOA!, are you saying you are getting HSPA+ on TMobile!?
can you PM me a link how to do this. I have my tab rooted, but no roms installed yet. Do you have the links for the roms? What recovery are you using to flash?
Thanks!
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Yeah it works well with the only problem being the power usage is rather high, and drains faster in idle. After looking at logcat I think this radio doesn't go into idle mode properly so keeps sucking power when not in use. Running it's a little less usage (maybe 30 min less) but on idle it drains in 24 hrs. Turning off 3g helps but for me I can live with this to get 20mb down. When ICS for the i957 finally shows up it should be possible to see a better radio get put in CM10 (which is still in early development, but that's what the ROM below is based on).
I'm using TWRP for recovery. After Clockwork being kind of wonky I have seen the light and use TWRP on all my devices. It just works.
The ROM is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867579 and go to post#2. There are some issues but it runs remarkably well for being like 3 weeks old.
This is the radio I used from a Galaxy SII. Google Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip and get it from Dev Host. I found out about it looking at radios for similar hardware and found that the Note is close so I took a chace and did it. So far so good!

cambertoe said:
Yeah it works well with the only problem being the power usage is rather high, and drains faster in idle. After looking at logcat I think this radio doesn't go into idle mode properly so keeps sucking power when not in use. Running it's a little less usage (maybe 30 min less) but on idle it drains in 24 hrs. Turning off 3g helps but for me I can live with this to get 20mb down. When ICS for the i957 finally shows up it should be possible to see a better radio get put in CM10 (which is still in early development, but that's what the ROM below is based on).
I'm using TWRP for recovery. After Clockwork being kind of wonky I have seen the light and use TWRP on all my devices. It just works.
The ROM is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867579 and go to post#2. There are some issues but it runs remarkably well for being like 3 weeks old.
This is the radio I used from a Galaxy SII. Google Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip and get it from Dev Host. I found out about it looking at radios for similar hardware and found that the Note is close so I took a chace and did it. So far so good!
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This is great to hear. I am going to hold off for now, as I would have to open a TMobile account, and I really dont NEED to have this until I start traveling in a few months.
Now what would be AMAZING, is if somehow this tablet could work on verizon. I have a huge corporate account with them and it would cost me next to nothing to add the tablet to the account, assuming it would work. I didn't think it was possible, but then again, I didn't think TMobile high speed connection was possible either.
Any idea if there is a way to get this working on verizon? Or if anyone is even trying?

BriCo84 said:
Any idea if there is a way to get this working on verizon? Or if anyone is even trying?
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I can tell you that is impossible. T-Mobile uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. You can only put a SIM card device on GSM carriers (TMO and ATT).

cambertoe said:
I can tell you that is impossible. T-Mobile uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. You can only put a SIM card device on GSM carriers (TMO and ATT).
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What about the LTE radios?

Thanks for the reply. Bought one already and hacking it today. Going to do the same thing i did to
Att's note, radio flash!
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cambertoe said:
Probably not. T-Mobile's and ATTs 3g bands were different frequencies (1700mhz vs 850/1900). However, in some places T-mobile has started to use 1900mgz and unlocked ATT devices will work. This seems to be random right now and even T-mobile support may not be able to tell you where.
Or you can do what I did, and get nrvate's CM10 build for the i957 (I'm a noob so no links for me yet) then flash this radio: Tmo_SGH-T989_UVLE1_radio.zip (Google it). I get full HSPA+ and have clocked DL speeds up to 19000kbs. Of course YMMV, and no guarantees that it will work for you, won't brick your tab or kill your pets.
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Did you unlock the device, is that necessary?
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BriCo84 said:
What about the LTE radios?
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I could not tell you as T-Mobile doesn't have LTE yet. TMO will use a band that the i957 can support, but it will probably take another radio (if any) to work. I've seen 21mb down from HSPA+ so even if I never see LTE I can't be too disappointed
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Did you unlock the device, is that necessary?
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Yes it is. The device was locked at ATT and AFAIK there is no other way other than going through a unlock service. I used cell​unlocker.ne​t. $25 and your IMEI gets you a code in a few hours.

cambertoe said:
I could not tell you as T-Mobile doesn't have LTE yet. TMO will use a band that the i957 can support, but it will probably take another radio (if any) to work. I've seen 21mb down from HSPA+ so even if I never see LTE I can't be too disappointed
I am talking about Verizon LTE. Any way of getting it working on Verizon LTE?
Yes it is. The device was locked at ATT and AFAIK there is no other way other than going through a unlock service. I used cell​unlocker.ne​t. $25 and your IMEI gets you a code in a few hours.
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I can tell you that this is legit. this is what I did. After paying I had the code in minutes and it worked
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BriCo84 said:
I am talking about Verizon LTE. Any way of getting it working on Verizon LTE?
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As I said that is impossible because the carriers use incompatible setups. SIM card carriers (GSM) will only work with other SIM card carriers. Verizon uses CDMA with no SIM cards. The networks themselves are completely different and hardware cannot be hacked to work. Most of the world uses GSM with SIM cards and if you travel overseas, you'll need a GSM device to use unlocked devices on any networks. Blame Verizon for picking a standard that 80% of the world doesn't use

Has anyone tried flashing the tmobile high speed radio but on the current rooted stock ICS rom instead of the cm10 rom?
In other words, i have a stock rooted sgh-i957 on samsungs ICS rom and i want to be able to use tmobile high speed network (HSPA+). Does anyone know if thats possible?
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(small rant)4.2.2 update

Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One

oh shush

4 letters : CDMA. I am never buying another CDMA phone.

Cj719 said:
Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One
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INTERNATIONAL variants are receiving their 4.2.2 updates.No one in the states has an official build or a leaked US build last I checked. The bulk of international carriers used GSM. These devices differ from the U.S. GSM devices but in most cases can easily be chopped up and hacked to be put on U.S. variants (see AT&T one x+ for proof that it does not always work....).
HTC is a company NOT based in the U.S. and we are NOT their primary source of income therefore we are not their top priority. Additionally U.S. Carriers have MUCH more control compared to international carriers and are usually the cause of a hold up on official updates. Complaining we don't have a leak means HTC and the carriers are doing their job stopping untested and un proven builds from entering the hands of users,
Being on a CDMA phone that is NOT on verizon as of yet it is impossible to have much hope of leaks or work for the devices as we are on the #4 carrier in the United States (or #3 depending how you want to look at it). In many phones cases we get the GSM version ported only as long as it is simple to do for the developers.

Kraizk said:
INTERNATIONAL variants are receiving their 4.2.2 updates.No one in the states has an official build or a leaked US build last I checked. The bulk of international carriers used GSM. These devices differ from the U.S. GSM devices but in most cases can easily be chopped up and hacked to be put on U.S. variants (see AT&T one x+ for proof that it does not always work....).
HTC is a company NOT based in the U.S. and we are NOT their primary source of income therefore we are not their top priority. Additionally U.S. Carriers have MUCH more control compared to international carriers and are usually the cause of a hold up on official updates. Complaining we don't have a leak means HTC and the carriers are doing their job stopping untested and un proven builds from entering the hands of users,
Being on a CDMA phone that is NOT on verizon as of yet it is impossible to have much hope of leaks or work for the devices as we are on the #4 carrier in the United States (or #3 depending how you want to look at it). In many phones cases we get the GSM version ported only as long as it is simple to do for the developers.
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Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.

GSM's have all the fun

Rirere said:
Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
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Definitely. Sprint has been on top of updates. The only reason we see delays is because it's not a one-sided thing, the carrier AND manufacturer have to work together on it.
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Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.

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Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
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exactly
you can never predict htc and their ways

eXplicit815 said:
Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
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Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.

I just want the kernel so we can run the GE. Love sense but love simplicity too. And before anyone links to an aosp Rom or CM... I mean something fully functional with everything working AS IT SHOULD.
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You misunderstood. I am not blaming Sprint. I am saying we are not HTC's top priority.

Rirere said:
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You make it sound like Verizon is a GSM carrier which they are not
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I said it once and I'll say it again.....
New Radio is all that matters to me. If 4.2.2 comes with it then that's great but the radio is what I seek and will determine if I move on.. So I too want this update ASAP.
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nedirinc the
Tilde88 said:
Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
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You realize LTE is the progression of GSM? Where did you get your information CDMA is a superior technology. Qualcomm abandoned their extension of CDMA into the 4G realm. I'm pretty sure you're misinformed.
What Sprint is doing with their NV upgrades is good, but I can assure you CDMA isn't where you want to be.

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You misunderstood. I am not blaming Sprint. I am saying we are not HTC's top priority.
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Same for you: I'm not saying you're blaming Sprint either, but noting alternative reasons the update is a bit delayed.
jcwxguy said:
You make it sound like Verizon is a GSM carrier which they are not
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Thank you for the news flash? I'm pretty sure that the people reading this thread know enough about the carriers to not be confused by that post.

Tilde88 said:
Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
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Your comment about GSM being outdated and inferior to CDMA is probably one of the most ludicrous claims I have ever seen.... Especially when LTE we all want so badly is based off of this technology and is REQUIRED for it to work.... Hence the added SIM cards in Sprint and Verizon phones.... That single fact alone makes your comment flat out wrong.

Cj719 said:
Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One
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BrianBaker said:
I said it once and I'll say it again.....
New Radio is all that matters to me. If 4.2.2 comes with it then that's great but the radio is what I seek and will determine if I move on.. So I too want this update ASAP.
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so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???

O.M.J said:
so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
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No sharing and or caring on this guys part i see.

O.M.J said:
so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
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I'll buy you a rack of beer!