Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One
oh shush
4 letters : CDMA. I am never buying another CDMA phone.
Cj719 said:
Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One
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INTERNATIONAL variants are receiving their 4.2.2 updates.No one in the states has an official build or a leaked US build last I checked. The bulk of international carriers used GSM. These devices differ from the U.S. GSM devices but in most cases can easily be chopped up and hacked to be put on U.S. variants (see AT&T one x+ for proof that it does not always work....).
HTC is a company NOT based in the U.S. and we are NOT their primary source of income therefore we are not their top priority. Additionally U.S. Carriers have MUCH more control compared to international carriers and are usually the cause of a hold up on official updates. Complaining we don't have a leak means HTC and the carriers are doing their job stopping untested and un proven builds from entering the hands of users,
Being on a CDMA phone that is NOT on verizon as of yet it is impossible to have much hope of leaks or work for the devices as we are on the #4 carrier in the United States (or #3 depending how you want to look at it). In many phones cases we get the GSM version ported only as long as it is simple to do for the developers.
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INTERNATIONAL variants are receiving their 4.2.2 updates.No one in the states has an official build or a leaked US build last I checked. The bulk of international carriers used GSM. These devices differ from the U.S. GSM devices but in most cases can easily be chopped up and hacked to be put on U.S. variants (see AT&T one x+ for proof that it does not always work....).
HTC is a company NOT based in the U.S. and we are NOT their primary source of income therefore we are not their top priority. Additionally U.S. Carriers have MUCH more control compared to international carriers and are usually the cause of a hold up on official updates. Complaining we don't have a leak means HTC and the carriers are doing their job stopping untested and un proven builds from entering the hands of users,
Being on a CDMA phone that is NOT on verizon as of yet it is impossible to have much hope of leaks or work for the devices as we are on the #4 carrier in the United States (or #3 depending how you want to look at it). In many phones cases we get the GSM version ported only as long as it is simple to do for the developers.
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Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
GSM's have all the fun
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Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
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Definitely. Sprint has been on top of updates. The only reason we see delays is because it's not a one-sided thing, the carrier AND manufacturer have to work together on it.
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Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
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Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
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exactly
you can never predict htc and their ways
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Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
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Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
I just want the kernel so we can run the GE. Love sense but love simplicity too. And before anyone links to an aosp Rom or CM... I mean something fully functional with everything working AS IT SHOULD.
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You misunderstood. I am not blaming Sprint. I am saying we are not HTC's top priority.
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You make it sound like Verizon is a GSM carrier which they are not
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I said it once and I'll say it again.....
New Radio is all that matters to me. If 4.2.2 comes with it then that's great but the radio is what I seek and will determine if I move on.. So I too want this update ASAP.
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nedirinc the
Tilde88 said:
Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
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You realize LTE is the progression of GSM? Where did you get your information CDMA is a superior technology. Qualcomm abandoned their extension of CDMA into the 4G realm. I'm pretty sure you're misinformed.
What Sprint is doing with their NV upgrades is good, but I can assure you CDMA isn't where you want to be.
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You misunderstood. I am not blaming Sprint. I am saying we are not HTC's top priority.
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Same for you: I'm not saying you're blaming Sprint either, but noting alternative reasons the update is a bit delayed.
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You make it sound like Verizon is a GSM carrier which they are not
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Thank you for the news flash? I'm pretty sure that the people reading this thread know enough about the carriers to not be confused by that post.
Tilde88 said:
Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
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Your comment about GSM being outdated and inferior to CDMA is probably one of the most ludicrous claims I have ever seen.... Especially when LTE we all want so badly is based off of this technology and is REQUIRED for it to work.... Hence the added SIM cards in Sprint and Verizon phones.... That single fact alone makes your comment flat out wrong.
Cj719 said:
Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One
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BrianBaker said:
I said it once and I'll say it again.....
New Radio is all that matters to me. If 4.2.2 comes with it then that's great but the radio is what I seek and will determine if I move on.. So I too want this update ASAP.
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so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
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so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
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No sharing and or caring on this guys part i see.
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so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
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I'll buy you a rack of beer!
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If I were to get the VZW Nexus One, would I be able to flash any ROMs for the T-Mo Nexus One? Themes, apps, ROMs, etc.?
Doubt it..
:'( Man, since everyone is so hyped over this Nexus, I doubt anyone will ever make a ROM for the Verizon one.
I'm sure there will be a fairly standard process to port these ROMs to the VZW N1... but then again, I'm not a dev.
Are there any super geniuses out there that know if it will work or not?
Without looking at the android source tree. I would assume that calling the radio interface is the same between devices. The radio image itself will be drastically different, but the OS itself will not see that complexity due to calling the radio through standard API's.
Think of it this way, when you call a friend through a landline using a regular phone. Does your regular phone care who your provider is? It just translates your button pushes to sounds and transmits it via a well established standard. The interaction between rom's and the radio are more than likely very similar.
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Without looking at the android source tree. I would assume that calling the radio interface is the same between devices. The radio image itself will be drastically different, but the OS itself will not see that complexity due to calling the radio through standard API's.
Think of it this way, when you call a friend through a landline using a regular phone. Does your regular phone care who your provider is? It just translates your button pushes to sounds and transmits it via a well established standard. The interaction between rom's and the radio are more than likely very similar.
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^This.
Considering that this will be the newest CDMA Android device released in the US, I'd guess that it's going to have the most updated radio out (at least for a while). The SPL, Recovery and such should be pretty much identical I would think. While it may not be possible to just take Cyanogen's ROM and flash it as it currently exists, the necessary changes SHOULD be pretty minor.
The better question is this...
how many people are going to not pay attention when a new radio image is released and flash it to the wrong device
it is possible.
But the devs are mostly gsm. CDMA is too limited with device releases.
Gsm is more flexible so the dev support for gsm is always going to be greater.
May take months for a port to happen.
I believe the droid just recently got their cyanogen mod port after like 8 months of release.
always bet on gsm cdma is too limited.
I used a Rogers Magic for a long time. Each time Cyanogen released an update, there were 2-3 devs that patched it and ported to the Magic for Rogers and also for the MyTouch. Each phone required different things but there will be devs that will handle it on here, just about guaranteed.
As long as I can have the ROM fast, I'll get the Nexus.
So are you guys saying 1 week, or a year?
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I used a Rogers Magic for a long time. Each time Cyanogen released an update, there were 2-3 devs that patched it and ported to the Magic for Rogers and also for the MyTouch. Each phone required different things but there will be devs that will handle it on here, just about guaranteed.
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Rogers is GSM though, not CDMA.
GNOve said:
it is possible.
But the devs are mostly gsm. CDMA is too limited with device releases.
Gsm is more flexible so the dev support for gsm is always going to be greater.
May take months for a port to happen.
I believe the droid just recently got their cyanogen mod port after like 8 months of release.
always bet on gsm cdma is too limited.
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The Droid and Nexus One are totally different devices. The UMTS and CDMA Nexus One should be identical save for the radio and associated hardware.
EDIT: Not quite. The UMTS model uses the QSD8250 Snapdragon, which only supports GSM/UMTS. The CDMA model will likely use the QSD8650, which also has CDMA support (in addition to GSM/UMTS, which adds the possibility of the CDMA model being a world phone) but is otherwise the same.
I mean, they are basically the same phone.
So, are we saying that it is undecided if all the ROMs will work or not? Or do we know that they won't/will?
Thanks
I have heard mixed opinions on this matter and I am very curious to hear from someone who knows for certain the process that needs to take place for CM to run on the VZW N1 when it is available.
Funny that nobody mentions the kernel, which could very well be different for the GSM N1 and the CDMA N1. The radio is the obvious factor, it is the other factors that may be the issue.
Hoping a knowledgeable dev will chime in with a solid answer!
Yesterday, I played around with my N4 and installed some Custom ROMs. I decided to go back to
stock ROM and only found a 404-Error for the factory images on the official Google site.
Today, I wanted to check, whether the link is fixed. To my surprise, Google completely removed the
the factory image for N4. Not a single word about it. Look here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Anyone got a clue, why?
Update:
As usual, JBQ from Google couldn't comment on the issue.
Mirrored Stock Firmware:
http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/firmware/nexus-4/occam/
4.2.1 md5: 9f39365c4eb0aba843fefabd5423802d
The question is... will they inform the reason why it has been removed? Or they also will will keep silence with this?
Maybe its somewhat related to nexus 4 not being included in aosp.........
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Can upload it if required...
maybe update coming they did this when 4.2.1 came out they remove the 4.2 image
I really hope this is going to be another bug fix/performance update! Hopefully it'll fix my wifi issues ):
Maybe 4.2.2 rolling out soon...
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Can upload it if required...
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Very kind :good:. But I already got it from a mirror.
I believe there will be an update, too. If they remove and stop offering
prior versions due to an update, the prior version should have had some
grave bugs (e.g., missing december). I cannot spot any serious bugs
in the 4.2.1 release, though.
It's removed likely because it contains LTE code and it's not a LTE certified device.. Removing it is legally the correct thing to do, and then when they are ready, replace it with a version that better locks out the LTE functionality.
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Very kind :good:. But I already got it from a mirror.
I believe there will be an update, too. If they remove and stop offering
prior versions due to an update, the prior version should have had some
grave bugs (e.g., missing december). I cannot spot any serious bugs
in the 4.2.1 release, though.
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do you mind sharing the mirror ? i want to keep it safe XD
CrazyPeter said:
It's removed likely because it contains LTE code and it's not a LTE certified device.. Removing it is legally the correct thing to do, and then when they are ready, replace it with a version that better locks out the LTE functionality.
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It has nothing to do with LTE code. The band 4 LTE functionality is built into the LTE chip on the Qualcomm board and has nothing to do with android. Anyways Google has license agreements to include LTE in android as it needs it for AT&T and Verizon phones. It wasn't because of these licenses they excluded LTE from the Nexus it had more to do with Verizon being a pain in the ass to deal with not to mention the added costs of having to add a CDMA chip to the device. It was just easier to go with GSM for now and include LTE in the Nexus 5 next year when more carriers actually have it.
Has nothing to do with LTE. licensing is paid when LG decides to use the SoC
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nexus 10 4.2.1 missing
2 Reasons..
There was a bug in the 4.2.1 image that didn't allow OTA updates to apply.
4.2.2 on the way
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It has nothing to do with LTE code. The band 4 LTE functionality is built into the LTE chip on the Qualcomm board and has nothing to do with android. Anyways Google has license agreements to include LTE in android as it needs it for AT&T and Verizon phones. It wasn't because of these licenses they excluded LTE from the Nexus it had more to do with Verizon being a pain in the ass to deal with not to mention the added costs of having to add a CDMA chip to the device. It was just easier to go with GSM for now and include LTE in the Nexus 5 next year when more carriers actually have it.
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Has nothing to do with LTE. licensing is paid when LG decides to use the SoC
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Doesn't work that way, the FCC has to certify the device for LTE operation. You can't just grab some parts and start broadcasting in certain frequencies without a license and CERTIFICATION. The Nexus 4 is NOT a LTE certified device and therefore operating as such is illegal (at least in the USA).
Check out the certifications for any phone on FCC.gov and you'll see certs for WIFI, GSM, UMTS and LTE seperately if they have all of them. GSM in 850mhz can be fine but UMTS in the same frequency is all screwed up and causing interference which is bad and therefore the device wouldn't be certified for the USA (via FCC).
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...rame=N&application_id=278241&fcc_id='ZNFE960' - Check the FCC Test Report - It only shows, GSM, WCDMA, WIFI, BT, NFC.
Here you can see the AT&T LTE Samsung SGS3
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=895441&fcc_id=a3lsphl710 - Look at the SAR testing which clearly shows LTE being tested
While I don't that's why they removed them, i'd say it's a good guess.
EDIT- If you are still not convinced here's the LG Optimus G for AT&T w/LTE
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=214715&fcc_id='ZNFE970'
Mentions LTE in the report (click Test Report) since it was tested for and certified for LTE.
anyone have a live link? I'd like to have a backup of it just in case
hp420 said:
anyone have a live link? I'd like to have a backup of it just in case
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Check oldblue's sticked thread in this section...
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Probably has nothing to do with LTE since the Manta's is gone, too.
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jim.k.yee said:
I really hope this is going to be another bug fix/performance update! Hopefully it'll fix my wifi issues ):
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cocchiararo said:
do you mind sharing the mirror ? i want to keep it safe XD
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http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/firmware/nexus-4/occam/
Hey guys. Just noticed that it's starting to get split up between carriers. Is there going to actually be a difference between carrier and internation? Will they have to use separate ROMs and rooting methods?
Also, Where is T-Mobile's forum? Or is it similar to the sprint model?
Rooting methods might be the same, ROMS will not be compatible across models. There may be multi-carrier roms but you absolutely need to make sure you flash things specifically for your model or you will end up with an expensive paperweight.
Closed Source Project said:
Hey guys. Just noticed that it's starting to get split up between carriers. Is there going to actually be a difference between carrier and internation? Will they have to use separate ROMs and rooting methods?
Also, Where is T-Mobile's forum? Or is it similar to the sprint model?
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If anything the T-Mobile one would be more similar to AT&T sprint is CDMA not gsm
This is why there are different forums for the device on each carrier. It's mean to keep people from getting too flash happy haha. If you flash anything from the "Sprint HTC One" forums, you should be fine.
jkt97401 said:
This is why there are different forums for the device on each carrier. It's mean to keep people from getting too flash happy haha. If you flash anything from the "Sprint HTC One" forums, you should be fine.
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I like it when it's split up.
Looks cleaner on the xda app too.
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I like it when it's split up.
Looks cleaner on the xda app too.
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Only problem I have with splitting them is we may run into the problem the Nexus S forum suffers from, where a lot of ROMs end up only getting posted in the main GSM dev forum, even though they have an NS4G version. Important info, guides, whatever were pretty invisible to the layman. I'm sort of concerned here because it isn't just a split of the dev forum, it's completely different headings for each carrier. It'll be interesting to see how different the models really end up being.
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Only problem I have with splitting them is we may run into the problem the Nexus S forum suffers from, where a lot of ROMs end up only getting posted in the main GSM dev forum, even though they have an NS4G version. Important info, guides, whatever were pretty invisible to the layman. I'm sort of concerned here because it isn't just a split of the dev forum, it's completely different headings for each carrier. It'll be interesting to see how different the models really end up being.
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True, but while this is inconvenient for us on Sprint it is far worse when someone inevitably tries to flash a rom without CDMA support and they end up bricking their device. I'd rather avoid that scenario and just force us to link to other threads to get additional information. We have to face facts and that is it normally isn't a smooth process for developers to take a GSM rom and port it to CDMA (I saw this plenty as I currently have a E4GT and that was almost a completely different beast than the other Galaxy S2's).
International LTE seems possible if Freq is right
International LTE seems possible if the Bands are right.
According to engadget. http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/08/htc-one-for-att-sprint-review/
For those of you just getting around to cross-shopping the HTC One against other devices, we'll give you a lightning tour of the handset. On board, you've got a standard micro-USB / MHL port along the bottom edge, as well as a metal volume rocker on the right side, and a micro-SIM tray on the left. Of note, the Sprint One is among the first of the carrier's LTE devices to offer a replaceable SIM.
While making a call on the EvoLTE i had 3G/LTE and i could still use the internet but on the HTC ONE this seems to be a problem even if i dont answer. My tethering will stop and my 3G will be disabled. Is it my ROM, Sprint, HTC or just me
The One does not have SV-DO like the EVO LTE did. They wanted the EVO to have SV-DO because Sprint's LTE network was still in its nascency when the phone came out and they thought that the ability to do voice and data simultaneously would ease their customers' complaints.
The One does not have this ability because both antennae can be used for LTE to minimize RF fade, which enables the One to have better LTE reception than the EVO did. The One does, however, feature SV-LTE, so you can do voice and data when connected to LTE.
Here is an article with a lot more info: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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HTC is stupid
OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid phone iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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Good luck with that; none of Sprint's phones feature SV-DO anymore. No, there is no way around this that I know of. Wow... and that's your first post on XDA.
Disgusting and a slap in the face to many by Sprint and HTC
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Good luck with that; none of Sprint's phones feature SV-DO anymore. No, there is no way around this that I know of. Wow... and that's your first post on XDA.
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#1 Yes its my first post but I've been a silent member and supporter for a few years now. #2 This should have been made clear and the fact that it passed by me shows it wasn't because I would have never gotten this phone if that was the case. #3 I'm not under any Sprint contract anymore and can go to AT&T where I'm sure GSM can deliver both voice and text quite nicely and with ease and that SG4 at least has removable storage unlike this dumb iphone wannabe. And last but not least #4 I just got off the phone with Sprint and they're sending me a free HTC EVO LTE for the bother and trouble they've caused me by being idiots for not having LTE towers in my area.
When everything switches to LTE everywhere around the country then only will this phone be perfect. Until then it sucks and I can't wait to get back to my sense 4.0 with my good ol' message,music,email,bookmark,and note widgets HTC were best known for back in their prime. After bragging how much this phone crapped over the SG4 and anything apple could ever put out I'm ashamed and disappointed in Sprint and HTC.
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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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Which is why I made Sprint send me a free new EVO LTE. Now I know I will always need a secondary phone until the year 2020 when LTE covers the globe. Knowing how slow Sprint is with their coverage and towers.
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Um, the S4 doesn't have this feature either. The EVO LTE and the S3 were the last ones to have it. The Note 2 doesn't even have it.
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first and last
i guess they figure it's not important w/ 4g being more ubiquitous. 4g and talk does work. I never use the feature myself.
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i guess they figure it's not important w/ 4g being more ubiquitous. 4g and talk does work. I never use the feature myself.
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Yeah I don't see the big deal, it's a cool feature but nothin to get all crazy over. I wouldn't even want to be with Sprint if they didn't have 4g all over my city anyway because their 3g sucks big time.
Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
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#1 Yes its my first post but I've been a silent member and supporter for a few years now. #2 This should have been made clear and the fact that it passed by me shows it wasn't because I would have never gotten this phone if that was the case.
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The fact that you know how to flash ROMs and mod your phone does not mean you have done proper research. Obviously, people knew that the One was not going to be SV-DO before it came out, as evidenced by the article that I posted above. SV-DO was somewhat of a surprise feature on the EVO LTE and Galaxy S3 when they were first announced and the FCC filings were reviewed. Anyone who knew anything about CDMA should've known this, yourself included.
What concerns me further is the fact that you've been coming to XDA for years yet still make generalizations like this:
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#3 I'm not under any Sprint contract anymore and can go to AT&T where I'm sure GSM can deliver both voice and text quite nicely and with ease and that SG4 at least has removable storage unlike this dumb iphone wannabe.
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You're right, GSM will support voice and data on the SGS4, just like it would on a GSM HTC One. But really? Comparing the One to the iPhone? Yes, I do wish that it had external storage, but I'm getting along just fine without it. As an Android phone, however, it is just as customizable as the SGS4. But, what I'm curious about is why you even bothered with this phone if you spent so much time on XDA as you claimed above? Surely, you knew that this phone did not have expandable storage or a removeable battery, so I'm confused as to why you even mentioned those shortcomings here, to say nothing of actually buying the phone.
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And last but not least #4 I just got off the phone with Sprint and they're sending me a free HTC EVO LTE for the bother and trouble they've caused me by being idiots for not having LTE towers in my area.
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I might be misunderstanding this, but according to #3, you're not under a Sprint contract any longer, so why are they sending you a free EVO?
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When everything switches to LTE everywhere around the country then only will this phone be perfect. Until then it sucks and I can't wait to get back to my sense 4.0 with my good ol' message,music,email,bookmark,and note widgets HTC were best known for back in their prime. After bragging how much this phone crapped over the SG4 and anything apple could ever put out I'm ashamed and disappointed in Sprint and HTC.
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Again, I can understand the fundamental limits that Sprint's network currently imposes on the One, but I'm confused as to why you are blaming HTC.
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Which is why I made Sprint send me a free new EVO LTE. Now I know I will always need a secondary phone until the year 2020 when LTE covers the globe. Knowing how slow Sprint is with their coverage and towers.
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This is just outright confusing. You are clearly indicating that you plan on holding onto the EVO LTE until 2020. Do you know how useless your phone will be by then? If your battery manages to still be useful until then, the phone will be wildly outdated simply with respect to the frequencies it has access to. The EVO and One can only run on Sprint's 1900MHz LTE network. Sprint is currently rolling out LTE on their 800MHz and 2500MHz frequencies. Sprint will start selling tri-band phones optimized for all 3 of their LTE bands late this year/early next year (they're already selling hotspots for them). By then, a number of carriers (Sprint included) will be moving on to Vo-LTE making this entire issue moot. I don't even think Sprint will be transmitting 1xAdvanced by that point, so voice on the EVO LTE might not even work.
By the way, I see you've started to spread your disease to other threads, I'm going to be following you, cleaning up your mess.
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Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
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With CDMA carriers adopting LTE, this will become less of an issue as all of Sprint's LTE phones support SV-LTE. Once Sprint transmits on all of its available spectrum, and once their network upgrades are complete, LTE will be pretty much everywhere that Sprint has 3G now. However, if you can't wait a year for their tri-band phones to come out, then you gotta do what you gotta do...
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OMG I was just about to ask the same thing! Why on Earth would no one bring this up before I purchased this phone? I thought it was originally the rom I was using (stock with goodies) but this is just plain dumb. LTE is not everywhere! How could they do this and get away with it. Now I'm sending the phone back and getting a Galaxy S4. HTC you've dropped the ball too many times. First the HTC EVO LTE and now this stupid iphone wannabe clone.
Is there anyway possible anyone can change this via a hack?
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c ya :crying:
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With CDMA carriers adopting LTE, this will become less of an issue as all of Sprint's LTE phones support SV-LTE. Once Sprint transmits on all of its available spectrum, and once their network upgrades are complete, LTE will be pretty much everywhere that Sprint has 3G now. However, if you can't wait a year for their tri-band phones to come out, then you gotta do what you gotta do...
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They tell me they'll have LTE everywhere they have 3G. But they don't have 3G anywhere! It's all name sake! Most of the time I can't even do a speed test!
Sprint has terrible coverage, even in huge covered markets like San Francisco. The speeds there were pathetic, ranging between 2 and 5 megs. If that's the best Sprint can do, while advertising speeds of around 20 megs, they should be sued for every dollar (or yen, I guess) they have.
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They tell me they'll have LTE everywhere they have 3G. But they don't have 3G anywhere! It's all name sake! Most of the time I can't even do a speed test!
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I can't speak for San Francisco's network state, but if it is anything like Chicago was at your level of deployment, I can tell you that it's going to get a LOT better. EV-DO (3G) was BLAZING here between 2006-2009. Back then, I was regularly getting between 1-2Mbps, then it started dropping to 10-300Kbps (yes, 10Kbps). Now, when I don't get LTE (which isn't often now that Chicago is nearly done), my EV-DO is sill around 1Mbps, which is totally useable.
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Status: Partial LTE Launched/Full Builds Continuing
NV Sites Accepted = 69%
LTE Sites Accepted = 49%
Anticipated LTE Launch = Fall 2013 (North Bay launched 12/2012, East Bay 2/2013)
Original Scheduled Completion = July 2013
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This is as of July 29. You should note that "LTE Sites Accepted" does not necessarily mean it's transmitting LTE yet, so the actual percentage is probably lower lower. This is where I have some trouble defending Sprint; they announce a market as "launched" when only a fraction of the towers are transmitting LTE.
Given the nature of LTE, it is a much more fragile airlink than EV-DO. Given the same frequency, LTE will drop before EV-DO does. That being said, 1900MHz LTE should be available around 80-90% of the places that 1900MHz EV-DO is. Once Sprint begins transmitting on 800MHz, the increased penetration means that LTE should be available everywhere 1900MHz EV-DO is now. So, if you're in a spot where you have the "3G" icon but you aren't able to get any data through, that means you're connected to a tower that has not received Network Vision upgrades. Once the NV upgrades are complete for 1900MHz, you should get useable 3G at a minimum. Once the tower starts transmitting LTE on 800MHz (assuming you have a compatible device by then), you should receive LTE.
SOURCE:http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1771-lte-700/?p=37464
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Sprint has terrible coverage, even in huge covered markets like San Francisco. The speeds there were pathetic, ranging between 2 and 5 megs. If that's the best Sprint can do, while advertising speeds of around 20 megs, they should be sued for every dollar (or yen, I guess) they have.
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I'm assuming that 2-5Mbps is when you're connected to LTE, right? EV-DO Rev. A maxes out at a theoretical 3.2Mbps. I'm not really sure what you're doing that you need more than 2-5Mbps, but once all the backhaul is complete, you should be getting 6-8Mbps with low latency. Where did you get 20Mbps, just out of curiosity? I've never seen that number... The maximum theoretical throughput of Sprint's 1900MHz LTE on a 5x5 carrier is 37.5Mbps, though real-world should be what I said earlier.
SOURCE: http://gigaom.com/2012/07/16/sprint-launches-lte-in-clusters-promises-6-8-mbps-speeds/
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Does anybody else remember when AT&T used to advertise the fact that it allowed you to browse and call at the same time? They made a pretty big deal about it. Until they were able to throw around fancy terms like 4G and LTE.
Yeah, CDMA does not allow simultaneous data and voice. Its very rare that you should have to do this, but it is another reason why I'll never buy another CDMA phone ever again. The One is my first and last with Sprint.
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I wouldn't be on sprint if i wasn't on a large family plan (that i don't pay a dime for). When the time comes to pay for my own service, i'll probably go unlocked on T-mobile if they have good Chicagoland and Michigan coverage.
I love HTC phones (because of how clean sense is) and I love Sprint (for their unlimited data only). Heres what I hate about them both...Sprint is clearly the weakest out of all the carriers but they make up for it with unlimited data plans. For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*! Theres no way Sprint will have country wide coverage of their LTE service even in the next 5 years and if so it will be spotty as HELL. I think its a slap in the face to many of their loyal customers who still live in rural/farm/or dense suburb areas. I haven't seen anything this stupid since the unveil of XBOX ONE! Sprint better take a note from Microsoft and reverse this $hit very fast because when people come out of their 2 year contracts from the EVO LTE and SG3 they're gonna be pissed when they find out their new upgrades can't do what their old phones can.
Screw what you and I know now about the tech subhuman. The fact of the matter is the mass general consumers of Sprint have no idea about the tech inside the phone. They will just expect their new powerful phones to be able to do what their old phones use to do. For Sprint sake they better have LTE towers up every damn where in the year or all HELL will break loose. Sprint is going to lose a lot of costumers to AT&T.
Now onto the HTC hate. For some reason HTC keeps dropping the damn ball with their phones and software (sense). For every step they take forward they cut off a limb. The built in battery $hit and no SD card expansion are stupid things I've grown to make fun of Apple fanboys for but now I find myself on the other side of the fence because I trusted HTC to show Apple they could do exactly what they're doing and beat them in quality....HOW FOOLISH WAS I TO THINK THAT! The whole unibody thing is neat and the front speakers are amazing but thats where the HTC ONE stops becoming awesome. SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
I have 5 Sprint lines open and one of them is the new HTC ONE which is the only one under a new contract. I still have 8 days to cancel it if I choose to. I personally use 3 of the lines which are all rooted HTC phones. The original EVO 4G,EVO LTE,and now the ONE. Its amazing how the original EVO still has a better 3G connection than its newer cousins and can download files faster using wifi tether. It just pisses me off that Sprint didn't care enough to include all their handsets with their best 3G services (for voice and data) until they figured out all this stupid LTE placement.
Now thanks to Subhuman I'm more educated on all the frequencies and radios that go in these new phones vs the old. I know the phone is capable of sending text while on a call now but only on LTE. But I have a few questions/request that will help me determine if I will keep the HTC ONE now. As of right now I'm using the phone as a Windows 8 wannabe with the Launcher 8 app (I know, I know, I'm lame) Please help me out if you can.
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
My Motorola photon q 4g lte was able to use 3g while on the phone. Seems like we're taking a step backwards, doesn't it?
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For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*!
SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
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First the ability to talk and use data on 3G (SVDO) not being included had nothing to with Sprint or HTC. It's because Qualcomm changed that. Read that article from s4gru referenced earlier.
The general concesus was that Sense was to gaudy and intrusive, that was always what most people said in critism to HTC, Sense 5 changed alot to be smaller, less intrusive, and also conform more to Android (Googles) Holo look and feel. As such, lots of the widget were taken out, but most of the critics have been positive in reference to Sense 5.
1. Sense 4 widgets will not work on the Sense 5 framework and would require lots of work if they were even to ever work. No one seems willing to do that work since you are the first I've seen to want it.
2. I don't have a Media link, but do you have the H200 or H300. I H300 is the new one that came as a bonus on the AT&T preordered Ones. Maybe the problem is you are using the H200.
3. The One is USB 2.0 so maybe that's why? IDK
4. Are you running an adblock app? This has been linked to popping or skipping in Pandora.
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First the ability to talk and use data on 3G (SVDO) not being included had nothing to with Sprint or HTC. It's because Qualcomm changed that. Read that article from s4gru referenced earlier.
The general concesus was that Sense was to gaudy and intrusive, that was always what most people said in critism to HTC, Sense 5 changed alot to be smaller, less intrusive, and also conform more to Android (Googles) Holo look and feel. As such, lots of the widget were taken out, but most of the critics have been positive in reference to Sense 5.
1. Sense 4 widgets will not work on the Sense 5 framework and would require lots of work if they were even to ever work. No one seems willing to do that work since you are the first I've seen to want it.
2. I don't have a Media link, but do you have the H200 or H300. I H300 is the new one that came as a bonus on the AT&T preordered Ones. Maybe the problem is you are using the H200.
3. The One is USB 2.0 so maybe that's why? IDK
4. Are you running an adblock app? This has been linked to popping or skipping in Pandora.
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@1. You didn't like the ease of the Sense 4.0 widgets O_O wow?! As much as I hear people cry about the blinkfeed it would seem they would want proper widgets back. Anyway I'm no a dev and I'm hoping someone good like Flex360 or another dev would go through the trouble of making them work on SENSE 5.0 I'd donate a nice amount of money for something like that.
@2. I probably have the H200 but I did do an update last night so it should be on par with the 300 now.
@3. Maybe thats the reason but I just find it always slower to copy to the device that has built in storage rather than the device that has a removable sd card slot. Its like that slow Apple syncing crap from itunes. I really don't get why its like that even on other devices. I copied 1.90GB yesterday to the HTC ONE (pics,music,etc) it took about an hour to transfer. If I was transferring that same amount to an SD card (like in my EVO LTE) it would take 8-10 min the most.
@4. No I'm not running any kind of adblock I don't think unless Flex360's Stock with goodies rom has a native adblock built in.
Android-X said:
I love HTC phones (because of how clean sense is) and I love Sprint (for their unlimited data only). Heres what I hate about them both...Sprint is clearly the weakest out of all the carriers but they make up for it with unlimited data plans. For them to not include the same tech in their new flag ship phones such as the HTC ONE/SG4/and future tech like the EVO LTE and SG3 has is PURE BS*!
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Please, try to understand the reason WHY they no longer support SV-DO. Using multiple antennae for LTE will increase LTE reception. What’s better, spotty LTE with SV-DO or a solid LTE connection without SV-DO? Assume you're on a fringe LTE area.
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Theres no way Sprint will have country wide coverage of their LTE service even in the next 5 years and if so it will be spotty as HELL. I think its a slap in the face to many of their loyal customers who still live in rural/farm/or dense suburb areas. I haven't seen anything this stupid since the unveil of XBOX ONE! Sprint better take a note from Microsoft and reverse this $hit very fast because when people come out of their 2 year contracts from the EVO LTE and SG3 they're gonna be pissed when they find out their new upgrades can't do what their old phones can.
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Sprint will be done with round 1 of Network Vision by the end, if not the middle, of 2014. They started rolling out LTE in late 2011 and are currently done with just over half of their 39,000 sites. All but roughly 100 (0.25%) of those 39,000 sites will not receive LTE because of licensing agreements or regulatory issues. I’m sorry, but I can’t give you more details than that because I’m getting this information from the Sponsor section of S4GRU.com. As I said above, on 1900MHz alone, LTE will cover 80-90% of the places that you’re getting 3G. As for the places where you can get 3G but no useable speed, you will get useable 3G, but it will unfortunately lack SV-DO. By 2015, Sprint will have 800MHz LTE on about 80% of its 39,000 sites, increasing LTE penetration and covering pretty much everywhere that is now 3G.
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Screw what you and I know now about the tech subhuman. The fact of the matter is the mass general consumers of Sprint have no idea about the tech inside the phone. They will just expect their new powerful phones to be able to do what their old phones use to do. For Sprint sake they better have LTE towers up every damn where in the year or all HELL will break loose. Sprint is going to lose a lot of costumers to AT&T.
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Looking solely at a phone’s ability to do simultaneous voice and data, AT&T does have Sprint beat, but honestly, so few people actually use this that it will not be an issue. You seem to be an outlier, wanting to use your phone while tethering. How many of the “mass general customers” tether their phones? Most of the people that you’re talking about don’t even know what “tethering” is. Additionally, voice is being used less and less, which is why so many carriers are practically giving it away. For most people, the few minutes per day that people spend talking on their phones won’t impact their ability to use data because they’ll probably be walking or driving while talking. Once the LTE rollouts are complete, it will be a non-issue because all phones will support SV-LTE.
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Now onto the HTC hate. For some reason HTC keeps dropping the damn ball with their phones and software (sense). For every step they take forward they cut off a limb. The built in battery $hit and no SD card expansion are stupid things I've grown to make fun of Apple fanboys for but now I find myself on the other side of the fence because I trusted HTC to show Apple they could do exactly what they're doing and beat them in quality....HOW FOOLISH WAS I TO THINK THAT! The whole unibody thing is neat and the front speakers are amazing but thats where the HTC ONE stops becoming awesome.
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I can agree with you here to an extent. When I first made the jump from Windows Mobile (not Windows Phone) to back in 2010, I considered both the iPhone and Android. I hated the locked-down philosophy that Apple had both in terms of hardware and software. I very much dislike being denied the ability to expand storage or swap batteries.
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SENSE 5.0 is $hit! Where the hell are all my SENSE 4.0 widgets?! Why do HTC keep cutting these things with every new phone instead of adding to the already elegance of the OS (I mean sense not Jellybean).
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The word “elegance” implies tasteful and simple, generally speaking. If HTC were to continue piling on superfluous options, it would be at odds with elegance. I think HTC believes that there are now enough options in the Play store that they can back off and allow people to choose what they want from there. I think that Beautiful Widgets is itself a testament to HTC’s prior genius; those widgets are obviously inspired by Sense. Which widgets are you missing, exactly?
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I have 5 Sprint lines open and one of them is the new HTC ONE which is the only one under a new contract. I still have 8 days to cancel it if I choose to. I personally use 3 of the lines which are all rooted HTC phones. The original EVO 4G,EVO LTE,and now the ONE. Its amazing how the original EVO still has a better 3G connection than its newer cousins and can download files faster using wifi tether. It just pisses me off that Sprint didn't care enough to include all their handsets with their best 3G services (for voice and data) until they figured out all this stupid LTE placement.
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The difference in performance is a little strange, I will grant that. The One’s 3G connection should be at least on par with the original EVO. Personally, I have not noticed any difference, though my one is a clear step up from my EVO LTE.
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Now thanks to Subhuman I'm more educated on all the frequencies and radios that go in these new phones vs the old. I know the phone is capable of sending text while on a call now but only on LTE. But I have a few questions/request that will help me determine if I will keep the HTC ONE now. As of right now I'm using the phone as a Windows 8 wannabe with the Launcher 8 app (I know, I know, I'm lame) Please help me out if you can.
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The One is capable of sending a text while on a call without being connected to LTE, I just did it.
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1. Can someone please find a way to put the SENSE 4.0 widgets on the HTC ONE including HTC Notes?
2. Is it me or can anyone else not access your apps while using the ONE with the HTC Media Link HD?
3. Since this thing doesn't use micro SD cards and you have to copy data to the phone its incredibly slow. Is there anyway to speed the data transfer up instead of copying 1 item at a time?....HTC Sync sucks too :-/
4. Also I don't know why this is happening to me but I get a weird popping sound when I use Pandora. I just thought it was the speakers at first but other streaming apps like tunein and Stitcher are clear.
Thanks for all/any help
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1.) It might be best to search the Play store for the specific widgets that you need.
2.) I’m sorry, but I am unfamiliar with Media Link.
3.) This is a hassle, and loading everything on the phone typically takes time. I just mount it as an external drive and copy/paste, then leave it for the 45 minutes or so that it needs. I’ve never used HTC Sync, but for my photos, I have it set up so that it auto-uploads to Dropbox every time I connect to my Wi-Fi.
4.) This happens to me as well on YouTube, typically on slower connections. I think it has something to do with the buffering and/or compression.
tetrabyt said:
My Motorola photon q 4g lte was able to use 3g while on the phone. Seems like we're taking a step backwards, doesn't it?
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The Photon Q was another phone that supported SV-DO, so all these arguments apply to that phone as well.
I've been running cm13 for a couple of days now without major issues. Yesterday it randomly dropped lte and it hasn't returned...
I tried clearing cache and dalvik, prl and profile updates, re-flashing the system and still nothing. I thought the sim might be bad but i flashed a stock based rom and data worked on it... Signalcheck says "unregistered" for data status which originally made me think sim card. And i don't think it's the version of nightly because it worked for like 20 hours straight... I just flashed the newest nightly and still nothing. Any ideas?
I'm on sprint btw
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I'm on sprint btw
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Don't use Sprint, because I am in NL. But after flashing rom's I delete stuff we don't use/need.
A.o. Sprint, Verizon and Project Fi stuff.
So possibly you need a stock rom instead of CM.
NLBeev said:
Don't use Sprint, because I am in NL. But after flashing rom's I delete stuff we don't use/need.
A.o. Sprint, Verizon and Project Fi stuff.
So possibly you need a stock rom instead of CM.
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Are you saying you are the dev for cm13 on nexus and refuse to support 2 of the 5 only US carriers?
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Are you saying you are the dev for cm13 on nexus and refuse to support 2 of the 5 only US carriers?
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Many people dont support those 2 carriers. This is due to them having to use closed sourced files for their devices as CDMA is an oput dated network that still uses alot of closed sourced stuff for the phone.
This is the same reason those carriers normally dont carry or allow nexus devices on their network.
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Many people dont support those 2 carriers. This is due to them having to use closed sourced files for their devices as CDMA is an oput dated network that still uses alot of closed sourced stuff for the phone.
This is the same reason those carriers normally dont carry or allow nexus devices on their network.
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In that case it would be great if cyanogenmod said that those carriers aren't supported on either their website or thread or... Anywhere really
reinaldistic said:
In that case it would be great if cyanogenmod said that those carriers aren't supported on either their website or thread or... Anywhere really
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It all really depends on the maintainer. Also most over look it as for a long time no one worked with cdma devices. Even xda was mostly GSM devices.
It's really common knowledge that cdma carriers have issues with nexus devices. Even aosp doesn't really support cdma. Not completely anyway.
zelendel said:
It all really depends on the maintainer. Also most over look it as for a long time no one worked with cdma devices. Even xda was mostly GSM devices.
It's really common knowledge that cdma carriers have issues with nexus devices. Even aosp doesn't really support cdma. Not completely anyway.
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Common knowledge?! I've been on XDA for over 4 years and never have i seen oversight like this... Granted the nexus 6 is the first GSM+CDMA device I've had, but this "common knowledge" should be stated on their site so that the 50% of USA users who use CDMA carriers don't waste their time with ROMs from DEVS who dont think 200 MILLION USA CDMA subscribers are worth their time. If Cyanogenmod isn't going to cater to costumers of, Sprint the most accessible unlimited carrier in the US, which has done every effort to keep their closed source network as accessible to manufacturers as possible making a non-branded or bloated nexus in their lineup for 2 years in a row, nor is it going to cater to costumers of Verizon, the most widely available, most reliable, best coverage albeit most closed and expensive carrier there is, THEN they should post in their site that they will not cater to the 50% of US market so we can look elsewhere for our community needs.
Furthermore if you're not involved with development of Cyanogenmod (i don't know if you are or not) you shouldn't be trying to speak on their behalf if you don't know the facts. They might be working to fix the issue.
Also this closed source stuff doesn't really apply when my issue is LTE which is open source and a standard.
reinaldistic said:
Common knowledge?! I've been on XDA for over 4 years and never have i seen oversight like this... Granted the nexus 6 is the first GSM+CDMA device I've had, but this "common knowledge" should be stated on their site so that the 50% of USA users who use CDMA carriers don't waste their time with ROMs from DEVS who dont think 200 MILLION USA CDMA subscribers are worth their time. If Cyanogenmod isn't going to cater to costumers of, Sprint the most accessible unlimited carrier in the US, which has done every effort to keep their closed source network as accessible to manufacturers as possible making a non-branded or bloated nexus in their lineup for 2 years in a row, nor is it going to cater to costumers of Verizon, the most widely available, most reliable, best coverage albeit most closed and expensive carrier there is, THEN they should post in their site that they will not cater to the 50% of US market so we can look elsewhere for our community needs.
Furthermore if you're not involved with development of Cyanogenmod (i don't know if you are or not) you shouldn't be trying to speak on their behalf if you don't know the facts. They might be working to fix the issue.
Also this closed source stuff doesn't really apply when my issue is LTE which is open source and a standard.
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You have never seen any of the articles on why sprint or Verizon didn't carry the nexus device?
Never seen many of the posts about Verizon refusing to activate nexus devices on their network?
Sprint to be honest is the bottom of the pile when it comes to networks.
As for CM. No I don't work for them nor would I ever work for them. They are a joke. Just look back how they bricked a bunch of nexus 6 devices by not testing code. They have stated many times why cdma are not really supported. Not to mention most of them don't use cdma.
As for what I know. I know aosp (which roms are based off of) do not support cdma. That is the biggest issue. Can't have an aosp based rom with closed sourced parts. Just look at all the devices they have released with cm as the main os. All of them are GSM. Which most of the world uses. Very few still use the old cdma system.
zelendel said:
You have never seen any of the articles on why sprint or Verizon didn't carry the nexus device?
Never seen many of the posts about Verizon refusing to activate nexus devices on their network?
Sprint to be honest is the bottom of the pile when it comes to networks.
As for CM. No I don't work for them nor would I ever work for them. They are a joke. Just look back how they bricked a bunch of nexus 6 devices by not testing code. They have stated many times why cdma are not really supported. Not to mention most of them don't use cdma.
As for what I know. I know aosp (which roms are based off of) do not support cdma. That is the biggest issue. Can't have an aosp based rom with closed sourced parts. Just look at all the devices they have released with cm as the main os. All of them are GSM. Which most of the world uses. Very few still use the old cdma system.
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I have seen the posts about verizon and i hate verizon too anywho, sprint tries their best, and to be honest i think they want to make their stuff open source but it's qualcom's IP ultimately. i like sprint coz i get unlimited for the cheapest price point out of a tower owning operator AND until recently they were the only ones not throttling their unlimited plans. i can see why AOSP wouldn't support CDMA an OPEN SOURCE project wouldnt play well with closed source stuff, but throught the years i've never had problems with CM on my SPRINT devices. i guess i'll go to a stock based rom until they can figure their poop out over at CM.