I've been running cm13 for a couple of days now without major issues. Yesterday it randomly dropped lte and it hasn't returned...
I tried clearing cache and dalvik, prl and profile updates, re-flashing the system and still nothing. I thought the sim might be bad but i flashed a stock based rom and data worked on it... Signalcheck says "unregistered" for data status which originally made me think sim card. And i don't think it's the version of nightly because it worked for like 20 hours straight... I just flashed the newest nightly and still nothing. Any ideas?
I'm on sprint btw
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I'm on sprint btw
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Don't use Sprint, because I am in NL. But after flashing rom's I delete stuff we don't use/need.
A.o. Sprint, Verizon and Project Fi stuff.
So possibly you need a stock rom instead of CM.
NLBeev said:
Don't use Sprint, because I am in NL. But after flashing rom's I delete stuff we don't use/need.
A.o. Sprint, Verizon and Project Fi stuff.
So possibly you need a stock rom instead of CM.
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Are you saying you are the dev for cm13 on nexus and refuse to support 2 of the 5 only US carriers?
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Are you saying you are the dev for cm13 on nexus and refuse to support 2 of the 5 only US carriers?
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Many people dont support those 2 carriers. This is due to them having to use closed sourced files for their devices as CDMA is an oput dated network that still uses alot of closed sourced stuff for the phone.
This is the same reason those carriers normally dont carry or allow nexus devices on their network.
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Many people dont support those 2 carriers. This is due to them having to use closed sourced files for their devices as CDMA is an oput dated network that still uses alot of closed sourced stuff for the phone.
This is the same reason those carriers normally dont carry or allow nexus devices on their network.
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In that case it would be great if cyanogenmod said that those carriers aren't supported on either their website or thread or... Anywhere really
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In that case it would be great if cyanogenmod said that those carriers aren't supported on either their website or thread or... Anywhere really
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It all really depends on the maintainer. Also most over look it as for a long time no one worked with cdma devices. Even xda was mostly GSM devices.
It's really common knowledge that cdma carriers have issues with nexus devices. Even aosp doesn't really support cdma. Not completely anyway.
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It all really depends on the maintainer. Also most over look it as for a long time no one worked with cdma devices. Even xda was mostly GSM devices.
It's really common knowledge that cdma carriers have issues with nexus devices. Even aosp doesn't really support cdma. Not completely anyway.
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Common knowledge?! I've been on XDA for over 4 years and never have i seen oversight like this... Granted the nexus 6 is the first GSM+CDMA device I've had, but this "common knowledge" should be stated on their site so that the 50% of USA users who use CDMA carriers don't waste their time with ROMs from DEVS who dont think 200 MILLION USA CDMA subscribers are worth their time. If Cyanogenmod isn't going to cater to costumers of, Sprint the most accessible unlimited carrier in the US, which has done every effort to keep their closed source network as accessible to manufacturers as possible making a non-branded or bloated nexus in their lineup for 2 years in a row, nor is it going to cater to costumers of Verizon, the most widely available, most reliable, best coverage albeit most closed and expensive carrier there is, THEN they should post in their site that they will not cater to the 50% of US market so we can look elsewhere for our community needs.
Furthermore if you're not involved with development of Cyanogenmod (i don't know if you are or not) you shouldn't be trying to speak on their behalf if you don't know the facts. They might be working to fix the issue.
Also this closed source stuff doesn't really apply when my issue is LTE which is open source and a standard.
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Common knowledge?! I've been on XDA for over 4 years and never have i seen oversight like this... Granted the nexus 6 is the first GSM+CDMA device I've had, but this "common knowledge" should be stated on their site so that the 50% of USA users who use CDMA carriers don't waste their time with ROMs from DEVS who dont think 200 MILLION USA CDMA subscribers are worth their time. If Cyanogenmod isn't going to cater to costumers of, Sprint the most accessible unlimited carrier in the US, which has done every effort to keep their closed source network as accessible to manufacturers as possible making a non-branded or bloated nexus in their lineup for 2 years in a row, nor is it going to cater to costumers of Verizon, the most widely available, most reliable, best coverage albeit most closed and expensive carrier there is, THEN they should post in their site that they will not cater to the 50% of US market so we can look elsewhere for our community needs.
Furthermore if you're not involved with development of Cyanogenmod (i don't know if you are or not) you shouldn't be trying to speak on their behalf if you don't know the facts. They might be working to fix the issue.
Also this closed source stuff doesn't really apply when my issue is LTE which is open source and a standard.
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You have never seen any of the articles on why sprint or Verizon didn't carry the nexus device?
Never seen many of the posts about Verizon refusing to activate nexus devices on their network?
Sprint to be honest is the bottom of the pile when it comes to networks.
As for CM. No I don't work for them nor would I ever work for them. They are a joke. Just look back how they bricked a bunch of nexus 6 devices by not testing code. They have stated many times why cdma are not really supported. Not to mention most of them don't use cdma.
As for what I know. I know aosp (which roms are based off of) do not support cdma. That is the biggest issue. Can't have an aosp based rom with closed sourced parts. Just look at all the devices they have released with cm as the main os. All of them are GSM. Which most of the world uses. Very few still use the old cdma system.
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You have never seen any of the articles on why sprint or Verizon didn't carry the nexus device?
Never seen many of the posts about Verizon refusing to activate nexus devices on their network?
Sprint to be honest is the bottom of the pile when it comes to networks.
As for CM. No I don't work for them nor would I ever work for them. They are a joke. Just look back how they bricked a bunch of nexus 6 devices by not testing code. They have stated many times why cdma are not really supported. Not to mention most of them don't use cdma.
As for what I know. I know aosp (which roms are based off of) do not support cdma. That is the biggest issue. Can't have an aosp based rom with closed sourced parts. Just look at all the devices they have released with cm as the main os. All of them are GSM. Which most of the world uses. Very few still use the old cdma system.
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I have seen the posts about verizon and i hate verizon too anywho, sprint tries their best, and to be honest i think they want to make their stuff open source but it's qualcom's IP ultimately. i like sprint coz i get unlimited for the cheapest price point out of a tower owning operator AND until recently they were the only ones not throttling their unlimited plans. i can see why AOSP wouldn't support CDMA an OPEN SOURCE project wouldnt play well with closed source stuff, but throught the years i've never had problems with CM on my SPRINT devices. i guess i'll go to a stock based rom until they can figure their poop out over at CM.
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If I were to get the VZW Nexus One, would I be able to flash any ROMs for the T-Mo Nexus One? Themes, apps, ROMs, etc.?
Doubt it..
:'( Man, since everyone is so hyped over this Nexus, I doubt anyone will ever make a ROM for the Verizon one.
I'm sure there will be a fairly standard process to port these ROMs to the VZW N1... but then again, I'm not a dev.
Are there any super geniuses out there that know if it will work or not?
Without looking at the android source tree. I would assume that calling the radio interface is the same between devices. The radio image itself will be drastically different, but the OS itself will not see that complexity due to calling the radio through standard API's.
Think of it this way, when you call a friend through a landline using a regular phone. Does your regular phone care who your provider is? It just translates your button pushes to sounds and transmits it via a well established standard. The interaction between rom's and the radio are more than likely very similar.
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Without looking at the android source tree. I would assume that calling the radio interface is the same between devices. The radio image itself will be drastically different, but the OS itself will not see that complexity due to calling the radio through standard API's.
Think of it this way, when you call a friend through a landline using a regular phone. Does your regular phone care who your provider is? It just translates your button pushes to sounds and transmits it via a well established standard. The interaction between rom's and the radio are more than likely very similar.
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^This.
Considering that this will be the newest CDMA Android device released in the US, I'd guess that it's going to have the most updated radio out (at least for a while). The SPL, Recovery and such should be pretty much identical I would think. While it may not be possible to just take Cyanogen's ROM and flash it as it currently exists, the necessary changes SHOULD be pretty minor.
The better question is this...
how many people are going to not pay attention when a new radio image is released and flash it to the wrong device
it is possible.
But the devs are mostly gsm. CDMA is too limited with device releases.
Gsm is more flexible so the dev support for gsm is always going to be greater.
May take months for a port to happen.
I believe the droid just recently got their cyanogen mod port after like 8 months of release.
always bet on gsm cdma is too limited.
I used a Rogers Magic for a long time. Each time Cyanogen released an update, there were 2-3 devs that patched it and ported to the Magic for Rogers and also for the MyTouch. Each phone required different things but there will be devs that will handle it on here, just about guaranteed.
As long as I can have the ROM fast, I'll get the Nexus.
So are you guys saying 1 week, or a year?
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I used a Rogers Magic for a long time. Each time Cyanogen released an update, there were 2-3 devs that patched it and ported to the Magic for Rogers and also for the MyTouch. Each phone required different things but there will be devs that will handle it on here, just about guaranteed.
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Rogers is GSM though, not CDMA.
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it is possible.
But the devs are mostly gsm. CDMA is too limited with device releases.
Gsm is more flexible so the dev support for gsm is always going to be greater.
May take months for a port to happen.
I believe the droid just recently got their cyanogen mod port after like 8 months of release.
always bet on gsm cdma is too limited.
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The Droid and Nexus One are totally different devices. The UMTS and CDMA Nexus One should be identical save for the radio and associated hardware.
EDIT: Not quite. The UMTS model uses the QSD8250 Snapdragon, which only supports GSM/UMTS. The CDMA model will likely use the QSD8650, which also has CDMA support (in addition to GSM/UMTS, which adds the possibility of the CDMA model being a world phone) but is otherwise the same.
I mean, they are basically the same phone.
So, are we saying that it is undecided if all the ROMs will work or not? Or do we know that they won't/will?
Thanks
I have heard mixed opinions on this matter and I am very curious to hear from someone who knows for certain the process that needs to take place for CM to run on the VZW N1 when it is available.
Funny that nobody mentions the kernel, which could very well be different for the GSM N1 and the CDMA N1. The radio is the obvious factor, it is the other factors that may be the issue.
Hoping a knowledgeable dev will chime in with a solid answer!
With the recent influx of Droid devices generated by them being handed out to many individuals through Google's developer channels, I imagine I'm not the only one wondering whether or not it would be possible to get service for this device by anyone other than Verizon. I'm hoping that someone can explain to me what it might take to make this possible.
As I understand it, VZW uses both 1900 and 850 while Sprint uses only 1900 with roaming possible on 850. That means the device should be compatible between the two networks from a frequency standpoint. What I'm not sure about is whether any of the software instructions coded into the VZW/Sprint devices are important to the correct operation of the phone on the network, or if they are identical and it only matters which network accepts the device's ESN.
In short:
- Would any software modifications to the device be necessary for appropriate functionality on the Sprint network?
- If so, could those modifications be derived from existing Sprint Android platforms like the Hero/Moment?
I have been given a free Droid, but I have no plan on ever switching to Verizon. It will remain a development only device if I can't modify it to work with my existing Sprint account.
Thanks in advance for any information.
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With the recent influx of Droid devices generated by them being handed out to many individuals through Google's developer channels, I imagine I'm not the only one wondering whether or not it would be possible to get service for this device by anyone other than Verizon. I'm hoping that someone can explain to me what it might take to make this possible.
As I understand it, VZW uses both 1900 and 850 while Sprint uses only 1900 with roaming possible on 850. That means the device should be compatible between the two networks from a frequency standpoint. What I'm not sure about is whether any of the software instructions coded into the VZW/Sprint devices are important to the correct operation of the phone on the network, or if they are identical and it only matters which network accepts the device's ESN.
In short:
- Would any software modifications to the device be necessary for appropriate functionality on the Sprint network?
- If so, could those modifications be derived from existing Sprint Android platforms like the Hero/Moment?
I have been given a free Droid, but I have no plan on ever switching to Verizon. It will remain a development only device if I can't modify it to work with my existing Sprint account.
Thanks in advance for any information.
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the only way to get this to work is via esn swapping !! and that is illegal!! so.... good luck google it!! sprint will not add esns to there network from other carriers !! verizon does is sometimes but sprint will not do it!! sorry are u willing to sell it?
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the only way to get this to work is via esn swapping !! and that is illegal!! so.... good luck google it!! sprint will not add esns to there network from other carriers !! verizon does is sometimes but sprint will not do it!! sorry are u willing to sell it?
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Illegal, huh? Good 'ol US; the only country that feels the need to so tightly bind our devices to specific carriers. I vastly prefer the unlocked GSM phone model that Europe operates under. Le sigh.
Thanks for the info. I'm unlikely to sell, as I can find uses even for a device that doesn't have service. I just thought I could kill the proverbial two birds with one stone if I could make it work. C'est la vie.
You're forgetting the fact that there are at least TWO major nationwide GSM carriers in the US.
Japan has better game-shows than the US does, but I'm not going to say, "good ol' US" when complaining about it. But, I wouldn't even complain about it.
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You're forgetting the fact that there are at least TWO major nationwide GSM carriers in the US.
Japan has better game-shows than the US does, but I'm not going to say, "good ol' US" when complaining about it. But, I wouldn't even complain about it.
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I'm not forgetting at all. The difference is that phones here, even for those two carriers, are sold locked rather than unlocked. Many consumers don't even know they have a choice, nor are they aware that their phones can be unlocked. The fact that the phones can be unlocked, and maybe could be used somewhere else in the world (depending on whether or not they support non-US bands), hardly excuses the fact that a tiny number of consumers would ever even realize that, or go through the hoops and hurdles necessary to unlock their phones.
This is a far cry from a market with many options for carriers where phones are sold unlocked and can be easily moved between any available carrier. The Wikipedia listing of mobile network operators in Europe (which I can't post) is quite illuminating when you realize that countries a tiny fraction of our size have a lot more than 2 choices that the phones they purchase, their property, can operate on. I would say cheering that at least we have two choices seems a little silly when the competition level here for carriers is so much weaker than elsewhere in the world.
Let's just say I'm more than a bit frustrated that what I've been gifted is, in the absence of one particular company's service, a brick. The phone belongs to me, yet whether or not I can use it as more than an alarm clock is dictated by only one company. It seems a little silly, and more than a tad bit frustrating. I would have much preferred an unlocked GSM phone; not only would I have two networks, albeit only one with 3G, to choose from, but my international options would have been wonderful.
Ok, so long story short.. there is no way to get the Droid A855 on gsm even if its unlocked? I know I just might be in the wrong forum but I have been searching all freaking day and honestly every site is starting to look the same to me 10:1 I'll prolly just sell the phone back off
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Ok, so long story short.. there is no way to get the Droid A855 on gsm even if its unlocked? I know I just might be in the wrong forum but I have been searching all freaking day and honestly every site is starting to look the same to me 10:1 I'll prolly just sell the phone back off
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No, because the A855 does not have a GSM radio in it. Without the capable hardware, what you want to do is impossible.
As my trusty ATT N1 soldiers on, I'm considering whether to jump to a new carrier in the near future so that I can stay current with upcoming Google Developer Phones. I would appreciate some feedback regarding the assumption that since the G1, Sapphire, and N1 were TMobile compliant, we can expect that the next Google Dev Phone might be exclusively flavored TMobile. Do you agree?
Thanks all.
We can assume sense they had a close relationship with Danger and now Google that they will stick with the same bands for Developer Phones. Just like we can only assume Google will stick with HTC for official Developer Phone hardware.
Again, this is only based on the past.
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We can assume sense they had a close relationship with Danger and now Google that they will stick with the same bands for Developer Phones. Just like we can only assume Google will stick with HTC for official Developer Phone hardware.
Again, this is only based on the past.
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true...only if we can trust history. thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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true...only if we can trust history. thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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well history is all we have to go on.
one of the main reasons why T-mobile 3G bands have been used on the dev phones so far is because its the most compatible worldwide (ie works with the most carriers in the world, you can use them in the US, Canada and in Europe)
considering this its pretty likely to continue to stay this way. ATT 3G band is no where near as widely used and CDMA phones must be carrier specific (well they don't have to be really hardware wise but the way they work vs GSM phones its extremely dependant on the provider allowing you to use a phone that is not theirs on their network, it can be done but its a real pain to get them to do it)
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...one of the main reasons why T-mobile 3G bands have been used on the dev phones so far is because its the most compatible worldwide (ie works with the most carriers in the world, you can use them in the US, Canada and in Europe)
considering this its pretty likely to continue to stay this way. ATT 3G band is no where near as widely used and CDMA phones must be carrier specific...
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understood
considering we see so many people flashing sprint phones over to say cricket or some other provider, there should be a way to flash verizon phones over to sprint right?
I am not sure how it works nor do i have the knowledge to think about how to make it work but it seems to be a possibility and if it is i would like to know how to go about doing it.
I love the sprint service but sprint is way behind in terms of getting new android phones and all they want seems like ones with external keyboards which i really dont need. Verizon on the other hand has some great phones and more that are coming. Sprint's best offering right now, the Evo seems kind of outdated considering how old it is.
so if there is a way of flashing verizon phones over to sprint and if someone has done it, please enlighten me
Is this a new rom?
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NO sprint will only provision phones whose esns are in their database listed as phones that they have sold. It's been discussed ad nauseum all over the interwebs.
Much as aiwetir said, Sprint is pretty strict (i.e. won't consider it at all) in bringing in non-Sprint phones. I'm told Verizon takes Sprint non-smartphones but I hear that's hit or miss. Either way, why would you want to?
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Either way, why would you want to?
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Like he said, because of Sprint's lack of new Android phones.
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Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One
oh shush
4 letters : CDMA. I am never buying another CDMA phone.
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Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One
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INTERNATIONAL variants are receiving their 4.2.2 updates.No one in the states has an official build or a leaked US build last I checked. The bulk of international carriers used GSM. These devices differ from the U.S. GSM devices but in most cases can easily be chopped up and hacked to be put on U.S. variants (see AT&T one x+ for proof that it does not always work....).
HTC is a company NOT based in the U.S. and we are NOT their primary source of income therefore we are not their top priority. Additionally U.S. Carriers have MUCH more control compared to international carriers and are usually the cause of a hold up on official updates. Complaining we don't have a leak means HTC and the carriers are doing their job stopping untested and un proven builds from entering the hands of users,
Being on a CDMA phone that is NOT on verizon as of yet it is impossible to have much hope of leaks or work for the devices as we are on the #4 carrier in the United States (or #3 depending how you want to look at it). In many phones cases we get the GSM version ported only as long as it is simple to do for the developers.
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INTERNATIONAL variants are receiving their 4.2.2 updates.No one in the states has an official build or a leaked US build last I checked. The bulk of international carriers used GSM. These devices differ from the U.S. GSM devices but in most cases can easily be chopped up and hacked to be put on U.S. variants (see AT&T one x+ for proof that it does not always work....).
HTC is a company NOT based in the U.S. and we are NOT their primary source of income therefore we are not their top priority. Additionally U.S. Carriers have MUCH more control compared to international carriers and are usually the cause of a hold up on official updates. Complaining we don't have a leak means HTC and the carriers are doing their job stopping untested and un proven builds from entering the hands of users,
Being on a CDMA phone that is NOT on verizon as of yet it is impossible to have much hope of leaks or work for the devices as we are on the #4 carrier in the United States (or #3 depending how you want to look at it). In many phones cases we get the GSM version ported only as long as it is simple to do for the developers.
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Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
GSM's have all the fun
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Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
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Definitely. Sprint has been on top of updates. The only reason we see delays is because it's not a one-sided thing, the carrier AND manufacturer have to work together on it.
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Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
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Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
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exactly
you can never predict htc and their ways
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Let us also not forget that the EVO 4G LTE received Jelly Bean over a month (maybe two) before the AT&T One X. Just saying.
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Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
I just want the kernel so we can run the GE. Love sense but love simplicity too. And before anyone links to an aosp Rom or CM... I mean something fully functional with everything working AS IT SHOULD.
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Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
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You misunderstood. I am not blaming Sprint. I am saying we are not HTC's top priority.
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Do keep in mind though that Sprint, while #4 in size has traditionally only been a step or so behind GSM carriers, especially when compared to Verizon, in releasing their updates. Little Yellow tends to beat Big Red in that regard by comfortable margins.
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You make it sound like Verizon is a GSM carrier which they are not
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I said it once and I'll say it again.....
New Radio is all that matters to me. If 4.2.2 comes with it then that's great but the radio is what I seek and will determine if I move on.. So I too want this update ASAP.
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nedirinc the
Tilde88 said:
Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
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You realize LTE is the progression of GSM? Where did you get your information CDMA is a superior technology. Qualcomm abandoned their extension of CDMA into the 4G realm. I'm pretty sure you're misinformed.
What Sprint is doing with their NV upgrades is good, but I can assure you CDMA isn't where you want to be.
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You misunderstood. I am not blaming Sprint. I am saying we are not HTC's top priority.
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Same for you: I'm not saying you're blaming Sprint either, but noting alternative reasons the update is a bit delayed.
jcwxguy said:
You make it sound like Verizon is a GSM carrier which they are not
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Thank you for the news flash? I'm pretty sure that the people reading this thread know enough about the carriers to not be confused by that post.
Tilde88 said:
Not even close to being close to the same phone.
Also, everyone should nkow that GSM is an old outdated technology. CDMA is newer and better. The only downside is you would need the Qualcomm SoC (forget which one but the ELTE has it), like that you can do SVD. But GSM is just plain horrible, and old. Yes, Sprint has had issues for the passed three years (isolated ones, nothing major). But you need to remember that Sprint has always been the first for everything. They took a huge hit back with the whole Clearwire, WiMax, GPS + airplanes issue. They fixed the issue, and we have had to suffer a slight loss of 3G bandwidth due to it.
They are once more becoming the first with yet another feat, the Netwok Vision upgrade. All frequencies... One band. I mean, if you guys could understand the complexity (and sheer AWESOMENESS) of what is being done, you wouldn't give a crap that you are down one revision of one OS, 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2 ... Big whoop. The only thing getting that upgrade means is you can put new widgets in new places? And no source for kernel dropped? Which even when the source drops, bluetooth will be broken. That takes alot of time from the devs to cook in working bluetooth after theyve been giving a borked copy of the source. So now, put those last bits together... As the kernel is where the party is at. 4.2.2? BIG WHOOP. 4.2.2 with stock kernel... I would rather be on ICS with Anthrax.
Stop crying/worrying/wondering/caring/w-e about the update... Just download an app that does whatever you need from 4.2.2, and enjoy. And yes, there is an app to do whatever you may need... There's an app for that.
In the off-chance that somehow there is no app for it (there will be an app for it), learn to make an app, and make the app alert you of things you want done, but there are no apps for it yet. By the time you get that app out, we will be on Sprint 4.2.2 Sense5, custom kernel, and still the same fracking radio.img! (A new radio is the only thing I can see as an upgrade for this phone).
/endunrantofoprant.
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Your comment about GSM being outdated and inferior to CDMA is probably one of the most ludicrous claims I have ever seen.... Especially when LTE we all want so badly is based off of this technology and is REQUIRED for it to work.... Hence the added SIM cards in Sprint and Verizon phones.... That single fact alone makes your comment flat out wrong.
Cj719 said:
Don't understand how gsm version has full functioning leak, the Google play version and now today the butterfly had official update to 4.2.2 sense 5....I mean come on this is the new flag ship for HTC and we (sprint) can't get official update, leak or nothing...ugh....rant over
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BrianBaker said:
I said it once and I'll say it again.....
New Radio is all that matters to me. If 4.2.2 comes with it then that's great but the radio is what I seek and will determine if I move on.. So I too want this update ASAP.
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so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
O.M.J said:
so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
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No sharing and or caring on this guys part i see.
O.M.J said:
so how would you feel if u knew a member of this forum DID have the 4.2.2 Sprint leak, but was just sitting on it???
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I'll buy you a rack of beer!