Sprint Diamond is on the horizon as is the unlocked 3G US version.
I need some advice or opinions. Do I go to Sprint or is unlocked better?
I am thinking of Sprint because of Sprint TV and Sprint Navigator being built in although I do have Tomtom software and I do have a Slingplayer.
What do you think? Is it a better idea to have unlocked?
Thank you for your thoughts.
Darrin
elwuero said:
Sprint Diamond is on the horizon as is the unlocked 3G US version.
I need some advice or opinions. Do I go to Sprint or is unlocked better?
I am thinking of Sprint because of Sprint TV and Sprint Navigator being built in although I do have Tomtom software and I do have a Slingplayer.
What do you think? Is it a better idea to have unlocked?
Thank you for your thoughts.
Darrin
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Not sure if i understand your question correctly, but here goes.
The Sprint Diamond is CDMA. The unlocked 3G US version is GSM. Therefore if you have Sprint/Verizon the CDMA Diamond is your only choice. If you have a GSM carrier (phone has SIM card ie AT&T, T-Mobile, etc.) then the unlocked 3G version is the way to go.
If you haven't choosen a carrier yet and want to know whether to go with CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) or GSM (everyone else) then a lot of factors come into play. I switched from AT&T to Sprint recently because I got on the Sero plan, the cost was too good to pass up, Sero it's probably the best plan available. I found Sprint TV somewhat useless since the quality isn't that great, the lineup was mediocre, and 99% of the time if i have the time to actually watch tv then i'm in a place that has a full size tv. Sprint Navigator is completely useless cause they'll probably try to charge you monthly for it even though the phone already has built in GPS, TomTom/Live Search/Google Maps are much better alternatives. Assuming reception is the same with all carriers in your area the only major downside i found with leaving GSM is the limited selection of phones. On Sprint/Verizon you are pretty much stuck with the phones they offer, whereas with GSM carriers as long as the phone supports the appropriate bands and is unlocked you can pop in your sim card and go which opens the door to european and asian phones.
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Not sure if i understand your question correctly, but here goes.
The Sprint Diamond is CDMA. The unlocked 3G US version is GSM. Therefore if you have Sprint/Verizon the CDMA Diamond is your only choice. If you have a GSM carrier (phone has SIM card ie AT&T, T-Mobile, etc.) then the unlocked 3G version is the way to go.
If you haven't choosen a carrier yet and want to know whether to go with CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) or GSM (everyone else) then a lot of factors come into play. I switched from AT&T to Sprint recently because I got on the Sero plan, the cost was too good to pass up, Sero it's probably the best plan available. I found Sprint TV somewhat useless since the quality isn't that great, the lineup was mediocre, and 99% of the time if i have the time to actually watch tv then i'm in a place that has a full size tv. Sprint Navigator is completely useless cause they'll probably try to charge you monthly for it even though the phone already has built in GPS, TomTom/Live Search/Google Maps are much better alternatives. Assuming reception is the same with all carriers in your area the only major downside i found with leaving GSM is the limited selection of phones. On Sprint/Verizon you are pretty much stuck with the phones they offer, whereas with GSM carriers as long as the phone supports the appropriate bands and is unlocked you can pop in your sim card and go which opens the door to european and asian phones.
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I really appreciate the time you put into that response. I have ATT but can easily switch to Sprint. I have long travel times daily and will take advantage of the TV on my phone but as I said I do have a Slingbox.
I have noticed a lot of G-Sensor apps dont work on the CDMA Telus version so my guess is they might not initially on the Sprint version. I also think your point about having more choices in phones by being on GSM makes a lot of sense. Thank you again - your thoughts are well taken and I know it took you time to express it.
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I really appreciate the time you put into that response. I have ATT but can easily switch to Sprint. I have long travel times daily and will take advantage of the TV on my phone but as I said I do have a Slingbox.
I have noticed a lot of G-Sensor apps dont work on the CDMA Telus version so my guess is they might not initially on the Sprint version. I also think your point about having more choices in phones by being on GSM makes a lot of sense. Thank you again - your thoughts are well taken and I know it took you time to express it.
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If you're satisfied with your plan then i'd just stay with ATT. You'd probably get more use out of Slingbox than Sprint TV, plus you can always load vids onto storage memory. And being able to upgrade whenever you want really comes in handy with the way HTC keeps updating their phone lineup about every 6 months.
With the recent influx of Droid devices generated by them being handed out to many individuals through Google's developer channels, I imagine I'm not the only one wondering whether or not it would be possible to get service for this device by anyone other than Verizon. I'm hoping that someone can explain to me what it might take to make this possible.
As I understand it, VZW uses both 1900 and 850 while Sprint uses only 1900 with roaming possible on 850. That means the device should be compatible between the two networks from a frequency standpoint. What I'm not sure about is whether any of the software instructions coded into the VZW/Sprint devices are important to the correct operation of the phone on the network, or if they are identical and it only matters which network accepts the device's ESN.
In short:
- Would any software modifications to the device be necessary for appropriate functionality on the Sprint network?
- If so, could those modifications be derived from existing Sprint Android platforms like the Hero/Moment?
I have been given a free Droid, but I have no plan on ever switching to Verizon. It will remain a development only device if I can't modify it to work with my existing Sprint account.
Thanks in advance for any information.
othelil said:
With the recent influx of Droid devices generated by them being handed out to many individuals through Google's developer channels, I imagine I'm not the only one wondering whether or not it would be possible to get service for this device by anyone other than Verizon. I'm hoping that someone can explain to me what it might take to make this possible.
As I understand it, VZW uses both 1900 and 850 while Sprint uses only 1900 with roaming possible on 850. That means the device should be compatible between the two networks from a frequency standpoint. What I'm not sure about is whether any of the software instructions coded into the VZW/Sprint devices are important to the correct operation of the phone on the network, or if they are identical and it only matters which network accepts the device's ESN.
In short:
- Would any software modifications to the device be necessary for appropriate functionality on the Sprint network?
- If so, could those modifications be derived from existing Sprint Android platforms like the Hero/Moment?
I have been given a free Droid, but I have no plan on ever switching to Verizon. It will remain a development only device if I can't modify it to work with my existing Sprint account.
Thanks in advance for any information.
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the only way to get this to work is via esn swapping !! and that is illegal!! so.... good luck google it!! sprint will not add esns to there network from other carriers !! verizon does is sometimes but sprint will not do it!! sorry are u willing to sell it?
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the only way to get this to work is via esn swapping !! and that is illegal!! so.... good luck google it!! sprint will not add esns to there network from other carriers !! verizon does is sometimes but sprint will not do it!! sorry are u willing to sell it?
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Illegal, huh? Good 'ol US; the only country that feels the need to so tightly bind our devices to specific carriers. I vastly prefer the unlocked GSM phone model that Europe operates under. Le sigh.
Thanks for the info. I'm unlikely to sell, as I can find uses even for a device that doesn't have service. I just thought I could kill the proverbial two birds with one stone if I could make it work. C'est la vie.
You're forgetting the fact that there are at least TWO major nationwide GSM carriers in the US.
Japan has better game-shows than the US does, but I'm not going to say, "good ol' US" when complaining about it. But, I wouldn't even complain about it.
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You're forgetting the fact that there are at least TWO major nationwide GSM carriers in the US.
Japan has better game-shows than the US does, but I'm not going to say, "good ol' US" when complaining about it. But, I wouldn't even complain about it.
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I'm not forgetting at all. The difference is that phones here, even for those two carriers, are sold locked rather than unlocked. Many consumers don't even know they have a choice, nor are they aware that their phones can be unlocked. The fact that the phones can be unlocked, and maybe could be used somewhere else in the world (depending on whether or not they support non-US bands), hardly excuses the fact that a tiny number of consumers would ever even realize that, or go through the hoops and hurdles necessary to unlock their phones.
This is a far cry from a market with many options for carriers where phones are sold unlocked and can be easily moved between any available carrier. The Wikipedia listing of mobile network operators in Europe (which I can't post) is quite illuminating when you realize that countries a tiny fraction of our size have a lot more than 2 choices that the phones they purchase, their property, can operate on. I would say cheering that at least we have two choices seems a little silly when the competition level here for carriers is so much weaker than elsewhere in the world.
Let's just say I'm more than a bit frustrated that what I've been gifted is, in the absence of one particular company's service, a brick. The phone belongs to me, yet whether or not I can use it as more than an alarm clock is dictated by only one company. It seems a little silly, and more than a tad bit frustrating. I would have much preferred an unlocked GSM phone; not only would I have two networks, albeit only one with 3G, to choose from, but my international options would have been wonderful.
Ok, so long story short.. there is no way to get the Droid A855 on gsm even if its unlocked? I know I just might be in the wrong forum but I have been searching all freaking day and honestly every site is starting to look the same to me 10:1 I'll prolly just sell the phone back off
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Ok, so long story short.. there is no way to get the Droid A855 on gsm even if its unlocked? I know I just might be in the wrong forum but I have been searching all freaking day and honestly every site is starting to look the same to me 10:1 I'll prolly just sell the phone back off
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No, because the A855 does not have a GSM radio in it. Without the capable hardware, what you want to do is impossible.
I've asked a few questions here, on different threads regarding the Galaxy Tab from Sprint, and no one seems to want to address the thing. Is my version of the Tab cursed, or infected or something? Every thread I've read tip toes around whether or not something will work on the SPH-P100, and for the most part states that their super special something or other will not work on the Sprint Tab. I'm just wondering first, why are there SOOO many different versions of the Tab, and second, why will nothing work on the Sprint Galaxy Tab (SPH-P100)?
Any insight would greatly comfort me...lol
yes! I see this too! I keep wondering if I should go return it or something. to be honest I would have gotten the Verizon version if they had it in stock but after reading these forums I feel like I should've went with the t-mo version!
+1 here ive had mine 2 days i may just do that.
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The lack of ROM's and support for the Sprint version of the tab has kept me from rooting.....no point right now. Needless to say its very frustrating right now, but I haver faith in the Dev's. They always seem to come through
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Honestly even for AT&T or T-Mobile contributions are still poor compared with many other phones on xda. At least the ones I used to own. But yeah way worse for Sprint/Verizon
That said it makes sense: he tab has been out only for a small period of time, it's expensive and not many devs have it... Hopefully with time you will get more support. If the tab is not left in the shadow too quickly by the new Tegra 2 tablets (Hipefully they wont't be out before May/June in which case more people will go for the SGT)
Think Im gonna sell mine soon. The lack of input and hacking compared to lets say the HTC Desire which is what I used to have is unreal.
People keep saying wait and Dev's will jump on but the Desire modding and roms started straight away..
On a side not the tab will not be able to run Honeycomb which is a real downer
Look at how good honeycomb looks....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/google-shows-off-android-3-0-the-entirely-for-tablet-honeycom/
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On a side not the tab will not be able to run Honeycomb which is a real downer
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Says who?
Sent from my 7 inch monster.
thank Andy, it's more than just me!
I still love my Tab, it's great, but everyone's right. I too have kept from rooting mine just because of the lack of (I won't say support, since it's no one's "job" to hack) access to more info.
I've been an XDA member since I got my EVO when that bad boy first came out, and I LOVE all of the devs, and their "products" for that. I guess when I got my Tab for (a couple weeks before) Christmas, I expected to see a huge list of ROMS, custom made apps, and themes, but as it was said before, they ARE pretty expensive (don't know, or wanna' know how my GF got it for me....lol) and as far as I can see, they're really only popular in countries OTHER than the US... I guess I'm being impatient, but I WANNIT I WANNIT I WANNIT (and by "IT" I mean what I want...lol)
Thanks for the support, guys! I'll toss it out that I have and am always willing to donate to a dev who does the job right, whether it be Alpha, or RC I never mooch! Hard work is hard work, and I try to make it as worth a dev's time as I can. That being said, if ANY DEV is looking for a tester, hit me up!
Thanks again guys, this is the first thread I've posted to get a REAL response!
Perhaps you all should start a bounty fund?
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I'm just wondering first, why are there SOOO many different versions of the Tab, and second, why will nothing work on the Sprint Galaxy Tab (SPH-P100)?
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Once you get outside of North America, you'll find there's really only one Tab.
The problem you have is three fold:
1. Outside of North America, pretty much all Tabs are GSM. That isn't a hard and fast rule, but it's close enough to make no difference. Verizon and Sprint are CDMA networks, so require different treatment to GSM Tabs. Almost all of the newer ROMs we are seeing for the Tab are GSM ROMs.
2. Most GSM networks outside of North America operate their 3G networks at 2100MHz, which is uncommon in North America. In the US, AT&T and T-Mobile both use frequencies that are completely incompatible with one another, so you can't take a TMo Tab and use it with 3G on AT&T and vice versa. Ironically though, you could bring either to Europe and they'd work fine as both support 2100MHz even if their respective networks do not.
3. It seems that pretty much all the US carriers can't just ship a device as standard and have to screw around with it in some way, almost always to the detriment of the consumer. Verizon Tabs have less internal memory than all other Tabs, and no US Tabs ship with voice functionality out of the box.
From an outsiders perspective, the cellular market in the US is deeply insular, and very uncompetitive. You can't easily take a phone from one network and run it on another due to incompatible technologies and/or frequencies making switching networks that much harder. Costs seem very high too when compared to the UK.
I'm heading over to FL for 6.5 weeks tomorrow, and to serve my needs I'm going to get a Virgin Mobile MiFi out there with prepaid data for use with my Desire HD and Tab, and use my existing Tracfone for calls. When I travel to Europe, I can usually pick up a cheap prepaid SIM with decent voice and data allowances, but this doesn't seem to be much of an option in the US - best I can find is Simple Mobile, but I'd need a phone with TMo US frequencies!
Regards,
Dave
EDIT: Sorry, went a way off topic there!
Readers can look at the map themselves
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
The two major PCS can share devices in the US
I would love to find out what kind of hacking the Koreans are doing with their CDMA tabs.
foxmeister said:
Once you get outside of North America, you'll find there's really only one Tab.
The problem you have is three fold:
1. Outside of North America, pretty much all Tabs are GSM. That isn't a hard and fast rule, but it's close enough to make no difference. Verizon and Sprint are CDMA networks, so require different treatment to GSM Tabs. Almost all of the newer ROMs we are seeing for the Tab are GSM ROMs.
2. Most GSM networks outside of North America operate their 3G networks at 2100MHz, which is uncommon in North America. In the US, AT&T and T-Mobile both use frequencies that are completely incompatible with one another, so you can't take a TMo Tab and use it with 3G on AT&T and vice versa. Ironically though, you could bring either to Europe and they'd work fine as both support 2100MHz even if their respective networks do not.
3. It seems that pretty much all the US carriers can't just ship a device as standard and have to screw around with it in some way, almost always to the detriment of the consumer. Verizon Tabs have less internal memory than all other Tabs, and no US Tabs ship with voice functionality out of the box.
From an outsiders perspective, the cellular market in the US is deeply insular, and very uncompetitive. You can't easily take a phone from one network and run it on another due to incompatible technologies and/or frequencies making switching networks that much harder. Costs seem very high too when compared to the UK.
I'm heading over to FL for 6.5 weeks tomorrow, and to serve my needs I'm going to get a Virgin Mobile MiFi out there with prepaid data for use with my Desire HD and Tab, and use my existing Tracfone for calls. When I travel to Europe, I can usually pick up a cheap prepaid SIM with decent voice and data allowances, but this doesn't seem to be much of an option in the US - best I can find is Simple Mobile, but I'd need a phone with TMo US frequencies!
Regards,
Dave
EDIT: Sorry, went a way off topic there!
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LargePrime said:
Readers can look at the map themselves
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp
The two major PCS can share devices in the US
I would love to find out what kind of hacking the Koreans are doing with their CDMA tabs.
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I'll see your 550 million CDMA subscribers, and raise you 4.5 billion GSM subscribers!
http://www.gsacom.com/news/statistics.php4
Regards,
Dave
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Once you get outside of North America, you'll find there's really only one Tab.
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Unless you are in Aisa, Russia, Nothern Europe, Africa, Or South America.
Really there is one tab in western Europe.
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1. Outside of North America, pretty much all Tabs are GSM.
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Except, see above. I have not seen a sales breakdown, but (VERY IMPLIED) SAMSUNG sais it sold 6000K units before Sprint/Verizon launched, and 1M after (supposedly as of early December figures.)
http://iphoneappstoday.com/2010/11/samsungs-global-galaxy-tab-sales-lag-behind-apple-ipad-at-600k/
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...sg=AFQjCNGyNxBY3ZxLqBRcIyopOY7t9pyoUw&cad=rja
foxmeister said:
That isn't a hard and fast rule, but it's close enough to make no difference. Verizon and Sprint are CDMA networks, so require different treatment to GSM Tabs. Almost all of the newer ROMs we are seeing for the Tab are GSM ROMs.
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This is the most serious concern. It cannot be overstated how important it is to get PCS devices into Devs hands. But note that the GSM devices had a two month jump on the CDMA devices. So devs bought them first. The ROM work we are seeing now is directly a result of that early jump.
Now weather there are 10 times as many GSM users is irrelevant.
A relevant question is ;
where are you located?
is the extra cost of the GSM devices is worth the extra storage you get?
are you going to travel with the device?
Are you willing to wait for a few months for the development to catch up to the GSM versions, or will that really bug you?
Are you willing to contribute to a bounty to accelerate PCS development?
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Unless you are in Aisa, Russia, Nothern Europe, Africa, Or South America.
Really there is one tab in western Europe
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So, just because there are CDMA networks in those regions, you infer that there must be CDMA Tabs available on those networks? That's a giant leap!
You'll notice that I said "That isn't a hard and fast rule" straight after I said " Outside of North America, pretty much all Tabs are GSM". On these boards and others I follow, I've not seen a *single* mention of a CDMA Tab that isn't a North American unit. Of course, there will almost certainly be an SK Telecom CDMA Tab in South Korea, and I guess it's not posted about here due to the language barrier.
What I have seen though is people posting from Russia, the Middle East, and other regions that they've bought a Verizon or Sprint Tab from the states only o find there is no network they can use them on in their home country.
Except, see above. I have not seen a sales breakdown, but (VERY IMPLIED) SAMSUNG sais it sold 6000K units before Sprint/Verizon launched, and 1M after (supposedly as of early December figures.)
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I'm not sure what you are saying is implied here, but it seems to me that your saying that the Tab saw a massive jump in sales once the Tab launched on Verizon and Sprint. There seems to be no evidence whatsoever in either of those links that would indicate that IMO.
First of all, the Tab didn't launch in most of the rest of the world (UK included), until November same as the US. Secondly whilst those figures talk about worldwide sales, in relation to the US those articles talk about all 4 major US carriers, not just Sprint/Verizon , which obviously includes the two US GSM carriers.
Without firm sales figures region by region, and by device type (CDMA or GSM) it is not possible to draw any firm conclusions about Tab sales beyond simple units sold
All I am saying is that the focus is likely to be on GSM Tabs because it is a larger market, and there are *likely* to be many more of them in circulation that CDMA units.
In my experience on XDA, bounties tend not to work. If anything they further fragment an already fragmented development community. If you want to raise money for a development effort, a far better idea (IMO) would be to identify a leading developer(s) for CDMA Galaxy S devices, and offer to supply them with a Tab.
Regards,
Dave
Its because there's a lot more of us than there are of you. Simple. Also, the tab is very expensive across the globe, and the majority of those that buy it get it unlocked and unsubsidized.
Surley someone could make a rom that would not mess with the baseband of the phone and would support all of the tabs since they have the same cpu and ram exept the new 4g verizon one which is a bit faster
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I feel like we're going to see more dev once the wifi-only version of the Tab is released. At CES a few days ago, while everyone was talking Tegra 2, Samsung announced the wifi-ony Tab and a few minor upgrades to the current Tab. That, along with their keynote where they heavily featured the Tab, and the multiple assertions from Google that Honeycomb would be backwards compatible for "a wide range of existing devices" makes me think that Samsung is committed to its device which has, (considering the price), sold like wildfire around the world.
As I was saying, once the wifi-only version comes out, the carriers will drop their prices for the Tab, and then more devs will probably snap them up and begin developing in earnest. Right now, the tab is at least $200 more expensive than the highest end phone, even when bought on contract, so the lull in dev activity when compared to those phones makes sense. I would say, just hang on to your Tab, great things are coming, both from the devs and Samsung.
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I feel like we're going to see more dev once the wifi-only version of the Tab is released. At CES a few days ago, while everyone was talking Tegra 2, Samsung announced the wifi-ony Tab and a few minor upgrades to the current Tab. That, along with their keynote where they heavily featured the Tab, and the multiple assertions from Google that Honeycomb would be backwards compatible for "a wide range of existing devices" makes me think that Samsung is committed to its device which has, (considering the price), sold like wildfire around the world.
As I was saying, once the wifi-only version comes out, the carriers will drop their prices for the Tab, and then more devs will probably snap them up and begin developing in earnest. Right now, the tab is at least $200 more expensive than the highest end phone, even when bought on contract, so the lull in dev activity when compared to those phones makes sense. I would say, just hang on to your Tab, great things are coming, both from the devs and Samsung.
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Exept to get the stuff from samsung you will have to mess with KIES (grrrrr - i own a mac and hate having to boot it into windows just to update the tab)
can't the galaxy tab from sprint be rooted? I didn't understand that point.
I bought the sprint version of the SGT just because I wanted to use it wifi only.
I can see differences on this tab compared to others like I cannot see megavideos videos directly from the webpage, it will redirect me to another page, and I have to do some tweak to get it work, I think the other versions of tabs doesn't have this issue.
and btw, my sprint galaxy tab is rooted
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can't the galaxy tab from sprint be rooted? I didn't understand that point.
I bought the sprint version of the SGT just because I wanted to use it wifi only.
I can see differences on this tab compared to others like I cannot see megavideos videos directly from the webpage, it will redirect me to another page, and I have to do some tweak to get it work, I think the other versions of tabs doesn't have this issue.
and btw, my sprint galaxy tab is rooted
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I watch Hulu from my tablet without s problem, I watch medavideos. My tablet no redirection, the page opening when you click play is due to megavideos they have a popup when you click play the first time. I have the sprint version as well
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Okay so yesterday my dream phone came out on sprint network the HTC X8T I really like this phone a lot. to my understanding the HTC X8T Is a lot like the HTC ONE with boom sound and front faceing spekers. but yet running windows phone 8. so I am very interested In this phone.
but yet I have a lot of questions.
1. is there an unlocked version of the phone I can buy?
2. is sprint the only ones selling this device?
3. could this device be used on boost mobile instead of sprint.
4. what are the chances of a boost version?
5.why is there not new fourm for this new device?
That should be a good start thanks.
1. Unlocked version: Maybe. Sprint uses CDMA2000, rather than GSM, although they might use SIM cards for LTE support like Verizon does (I haven't checked) typically, CDMA2000 phones won't work on other networks unless those other networks also use CDMA, and sometimes not then (because they're locked). I don't know yet whether the 8XT will be available unlocked in general, or available for GSM.
2. Sprint only seller: So far as I know, yes. If there's a GSM variant, you'll be able to buy it internationally. If not, then they will probably be the only one this side of China or something. I'd expect a GSM variant, but I don't know.
3. Use on Boost: See the answer to #1.
4. Boost version: I doubt anybody here knows. You should ask Boost Mobile about that.
5. New forum: Many WP8 devices don't have their own forums. Until such time as custom ROMs or similar are possible, one WP8 device is much like another, so there isn't usually enough traffic to justify per-phone forums.
By the way, the 8XT looks somewhat liike the One, and has the same speakers, but its specs are considerably worse. Its screen is lower resolution, and I believe it's processor is much less powerful.
HTC has not announced a version or variant of this phone for anyone except Sprint, so for now, we can only assume its a Sprint only device and does not come unlocked. Considering that Sprint is CDMA, it wouldn't be wise to purchase a Sprint branded phone to use on other networks as it will most likely not work. Boost has been known to activate Sprint phones on their service, but its very hit or miss as you need to speak directly with a customer service rep, and that itself is difficult. XD
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HTC has not announced a version or variant of this phone for anyone except Sprint, so for now, we can only assume its a Sprint only device and does not come unlocked. Considering that Sprint is CDMA, it wouldn't be wise to purchase a Sprint branded phone to use on other networks as it will most likely not work. Boost has been known to activate Sprint phones on their service, but its very hit or miss as you need to speak directly with a customer service rep, and that itself is difficult. XD
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You only need to look at the radio specs for the phone. I knew it was for Sprint a full week before the tech i was on the phone with did and she was Tier 2 support with 'upcoming training for some new WP8 device' but didnt know what the hardware was.
It runs on the 1xRTT network, so wont even work on VZW. Also given that Sprint is (or at least used to be) an HTC Premier Partner its no surprise they made a phone that only Sprint would carry. Its smack in the middle of the 8X and 8S but what sucks is we are stuck with Touch Pro2/Arrive resolution on a screen thats nearly 33% bigger (4.3" vs 3.7"). Will i get one? Im still on the fence as my TP2 still does the job for me, even without native apps for Twitter or games.
I've been running cm13 for a couple of days now without major issues. Yesterday it randomly dropped lte and it hasn't returned...
I tried clearing cache and dalvik, prl and profile updates, re-flashing the system and still nothing. I thought the sim might be bad but i flashed a stock based rom and data worked on it... Signalcheck says "unregistered" for data status which originally made me think sim card. And i don't think it's the version of nightly because it worked for like 20 hours straight... I just flashed the newest nightly and still nothing. Any ideas?
I'm on sprint btw
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I'm on sprint btw
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Don't use Sprint, because I am in NL. But after flashing rom's I delete stuff we don't use/need.
A.o. Sprint, Verizon and Project Fi stuff.
So possibly you need a stock rom instead of CM.
NLBeev said:
Don't use Sprint, because I am in NL. But after flashing rom's I delete stuff we don't use/need.
A.o. Sprint, Verizon and Project Fi stuff.
So possibly you need a stock rom instead of CM.
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Are you saying you are the dev for cm13 on nexus and refuse to support 2 of the 5 only US carriers?
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Are you saying you are the dev for cm13 on nexus and refuse to support 2 of the 5 only US carriers?
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Many people dont support those 2 carriers. This is due to them having to use closed sourced files for their devices as CDMA is an oput dated network that still uses alot of closed sourced stuff for the phone.
This is the same reason those carriers normally dont carry or allow nexus devices on their network.
zelendel said:
Many people dont support those 2 carriers. This is due to them having to use closed sourced files for their devices as CDMA is an oput dated network that still uses alot of closed sourced stuff for the phone.
This is the same reason those carriers normally dont carry or allow nexus devices on their network.
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In that case it would be great if cyanogenmod said that those carriers aren't supported on either their website or thread or... Anywhere really
reinaldistic said:
In that case it would be great if cyanogenmod said that those carriers aren't supported on either their website or thread or... Anywhere really
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It all really depends on the maintainer. Also most over look it as for a long time no one worked with cdma devices. Even xda was mostly GSM devices.
It's really common knowledge that cdma carriers have issues with nexus devices. Even aosp doesn't really support cdma. Not completely anyway.
zelendel said:
It all really depends on the maintainer. Also most over look it as for a long time no one worked with cdma devices. Even xda was mostly GSM devices.
It's really common knowledge that cdma carriers have issues with nexus devices. Even aosp doesn't really support cdma. Not completely anyway.
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Common knowledge?! I've been on XDA for over 4 years and never have i seen oversight like this... Granted the nexus 6 is the first GSM+CDMA device I've had, but this "common knowledge" should be stated on their site so that the 50% of USA users who use CDMA carriers don't waste their time with ROMs from DEVS who dont think 200 MILLION USA CDMA subscribers are worth their time. If Cyanogenmod isn't going to cater to costumers of, Sprint the most accessible unlimited carrier in the US, which has done every effort to keep their closed source network as accessible to manufacturers as possible making a non-branded or bloated nexus in their lineup for 2 years in a row, nor is it going to cater to costumers of Verizon, the most widely available, most reliable, best coverage albeit most closed and expensive carrier there is, THEN they should post in their site that they will not cater to the 50% of US market so we can look elsewhere for our community needs.
Furthermore if you're not involved with development of Cyanogenmod (i don't know if you are or not) you shouldn't be trying to speak on their behalf if you don't know the facts. They might be working to fix the issue.
Also this closed source stuff doesn't really apply when my issue is LTE which is open source and a standard.
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Common knowledge?! I've been on XDA for over 4 years and never have i seen oversight like this... Granted the nexus 6 is the first GSM+CDMA device I've had, but this "common knowledge" should be stated on their site so that the 50% of USA users who use CDMA carriers don't waste their time with ROMs from DEVS who dont think 200 MILLION USA CDMA subscribers are worth their time. If Cyanogenmod isn't going to cater to costumers of, Sprint the most accessible unlimited carrier in the US, which has done every effort to keep their closed source network as accessible to manufacturers as possible making a non-branded or bloated nexus in their lineup for 2 years in a row, nor is it going to cater to costumers of Verizon, the most widely available, most reliable, best coverage albeit most closed and expensive carrier there is, THEN they should post in their site that they will not cater to the 50% of US market so we can look elsewhere for our community needs.
Furthermore if you're not involved with development of Cyanogenmod (i don't know if you are or not) you shouldn't be trying to speak on their behalf if you don't know the facts. They might be working to fix the issue.
Also this closed source stuff doesn't really apply when my issue is LTE which is open source and a standard.
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You have never seen any of the articles on why sprint or Verizon didn't carry the nexus device?
Never seen many of the posts about Verizon refusing to activate nexus devices on their network?
Sprint to be honest is the bottom of the pile when it comes to networks.
As for CM. No I don't work for them nor would I ever work for them. They are a joke. Just look back how they bricked a bunch of nexus 6 devices by not testing code. They have stated many times why cdma are not really supported. Not to mention most of them don't use cdma.
As for what I know. I know aosp (which roms are based off of) do not support cdma. That is the biggest issue. Can't have an aosp based rom with closed sourced parts. Just look at all the devices they have released with cm as the main os. All of them are GSM. Which most of the world uses. Very few still use the old cdma system.
zelendel said:
You have never seen any of the articles on why sprint or Verizon didn't carry the nexus device?
Never seen many of the posts about Verizon refusing to activate nexus devices on their network?
Sprint to be honest is the bottom of the pile when it comes to networks.
As for CM. No I don't work for them nor would I ever work for them. They are a joke. Just look back how they bricked a bunch of nexus 6 devices by not testing code. They have stated many times why cdma are not really supported. Not to mention most of them don't use cdma.
As for what I know. I know aosp (which roms are based off of) do not support cdma. That is the biggest issue. Can't have an aosp based rom with closed sourced parts. Just look at all the devices they have released with cm as the main os. All of them are GSM. Which most of the world uses. Very few still use the old cdma system.
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I have seen the posts about verizon and i hate verizon too anywho, sprint tries their best, and to be honest i think they want to make their stuff open source but it's qualcom's IP ultimately. i like sprint coz i get unlimited for the cheapest price point out of a tower owning operator AND until recently they were the only ones not throttling their unlimited plans. i can see why AOSP wouldn't support CDMA an OPEN SOURCE project wouldnt play well with closed source stuff, but throught the years i've never had problems with CM on my SPRINT devices. i guess i'll go to a stock based rom until they can figure their poop out over at CM.