Okay so yesterday my dream phone came out on sprint network the HTC X8T I really like this phone a lot. to my understanding the HTC X8T Is a lot like the HTC ONE with boom sound and front faceing spekers. but yet running windows phone 8. so I am very interested In this phone.
but yet I have a lot of questions.
1. is there an unlocked version of the phone I can buy?
2. is sprint the only ones selling this device?
3. could this device be used on boost mobile instead of sprint.
4. what are the chances of a boost version?
5.why is there not new fourm for this new device?
That should be a good start thanks.
1. Unlocked version: Maybe. Sprint uses CDMA2000, rather than GSM, although they might use SIM cards for LTE support like Verizon does (I haven't checked) typically, CDMA2000 phones won't work on other networks unless those other networks also use CDMA, and sometimes not then (because they're locked). I don't know yet whether the 8XT will be available unlocked in general, or available for GSM.
2. Sprint only seller: So far as I know, yes. If there's a GSM variant, you'll be able to buy it internationally. If not, then they will probably be the only one this side of China or something. I'd expect a GSM variant, but I don't know.
3. Use on Boost: See the answer to #1.
4. Boost version: I doubt anybody here knows. You should ask Boost Mobile about that.
5. New forum: Many WP8 devices don't have their own forums. Until such time as custom ROMs or similar are possible, one WP8 device is much like another, so there isn't usually enough traffic to justify per-phone forums.
By the way, the 8XT looks somewhat liike the One, and has the same speakers, but its specs are considerably worse. Its screen is lower resolution, and I believe it's processor is much less powerful.
HTC has not announced a version or variant of this phone for anyone except Sprint, so for now, we can only assume its a Sprint only device and does not come unlocked. Considering that Sprint is CDMA, it wouldn't be wise to purchase a Sprint branded phone to use on other networks as it will most likely not work. Boost has been known to activate Sprint phones on their service, but its very hit or miss as you need to speak directly with a customer service rep, and that itself is difficult. XD
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HTC has not announced a version or variant of this phone for anyone except Sprint, so for now, we can only assume its a Sprint only device and does not come unlocked. Considering that Sprint is CDMA, it wouldn't be wise to purchase a Sprint branded phone to use on other networks as it will most likely not work. Boost has been known to activate Sprint phones on their service, but its very hit or miss as you need to speak directly with a customer service rep, and that itself is difficult. XD
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You only need to look at the radio specs for the phone. I knew it was for Sprint a full week before the tech i was on the phone with did and she was Tier 2 support with 'upcoming training for some new WP8 device' but didnt know what the hardware was.
It runs on the 1xRTT network, so wont even work on VZW. Also given that Sprint is (or at least used to be) an HTC Premier Partner its no surprise they made a phone that only Sprint would carry. Its smack in the middle of the 8X and 8S but what sucks is we are stuck with Touch Pro2/Arrive resolution on a screen thats nearly 33% bigger (4.3" vs 3.7"). Will i get one? Im still on the fence as my TP2 still does the job for me, even without native apps for Twitter or games.
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Sprint Diamond is on the horizon as is the unlocked 3G US version.
I need some advice or opinions. Do I go to Sprint or is unlocked better?
I am thinking of Sprint because of Sprint TV and Sprint Navigator being built in although I do have Tomtom software and I do have a Slingplayer.
What do you think? Is it a better idea to have unlocked?
Thank you for your thoughts.
Darrin
elwuero said:
Sprint Diamond is on the horizon as is the unlocked 3G US version.
I need some advice or opinions. Do I go to Sprint or is unlocked better?
I am thinking of Sprint because of Sprint TV and Sprint Navigator being built in although I do have Tomtom software and I do have a Slingplayer.
What do you think? Is it a better idea to have unlocked?
Thank you for your thoughts.
Darrin
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Not sure if i understand your question correctly, but here goes.
The Sprint Diamond is CDMA. The unlocked 3G US version is GSM. Therefore if you have Sprint/Verizon the CDMA Diamond is your only choice. If you have a GSM carrier (phone has SIM card ie AT&T, T-Mobile, etc.) then the unlocked 3G version is the way to go.
If you haven't choosen a carrier yet and want to know whether to go with CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) or GSM (everyone else) then a lot of factors come into play. I switched from AT&T to Sprint recently because I got on the Sero plan, the cost was too good to pass up, Sero it's probably the best plan available. I found Sprint TV somewhat useless since the quality isn't that great, the lineup was mediocre, and 99% of the time if i have the time to actually watch tv then i'm in a place that has a full size tv. Sprint Navigator is completely useless cause they'll probably try to charge you monthly for it even though the phone already has built in GPS, TomTom/Live Search/Google Maps are much better alternatives. Assuming reception is the same with all carriers in your area the only major downside i found with leaving GSM is the limited selection of phones. On Sprint/Verizon you are pretty much stuck with the phones they offer, whereas with GSM carriers as long as the phone supports the appropriate bands and is unlocked you can pop in your sim card and go which opens the door to european and asian phones.
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Not sure if i understand your question correctly, but here goes.
The Sprint Diamond is CDMA. The unlocked 3G US version is GSM. Therefore if you have Sprint/Verizon the CDMA Diamond is your only choice. If you have a GSM carrier (phone has SIM card ie AT&T, T-Mobile, etc.) then the unlocked 3G version is the way to go.
If you haven't choosen a carrier yet and want to know whether to go with CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) or GSM (everyone else) then a lot of factors come into play. I switched from AT&T to Sprint recently because I got on the Sero plan, the cost was too good to pass up, Sero it's probably the best plan available. I found Sprint TV somewhat useless since the quality isn't that great, the lineup was mediocre, and 99% of the time if i have the time to actually watch tv then i'm in a place that has a full size tv. Sprint Navigator is completely useless cause they'll probably try to charge you monthly for it even though the phone already has built in GPS, TomTom/Live Search/Google Maps are much better alternatives. Assuming reception is the same with all carriers in your area the only major downside i found with leaving GSM is the limited selection of phones. On Sprint/Verizon you are pretty much stuck with the phones they offer, whereas with GSM carriers as long as the phone supports the appropriate bands and is unlocked you can pop in your sim card and go which opens the door to european and asian phones.
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I really appreciate the time you put into that response. I have ATT but can easily switch to Sprint. I have long travel times daily and will take advantage of the TV on my phone but as I said I do have a Slingbox.
I have noticed a lot of G-Sensor apps dont work on the CDMA Telus version so my guess is they might not initially on the Sprint version. I also think your point about having more choices in phones by being on GSM makes a lot of sense. Thank you again - your thoughts are well taken and I know it took you time to express it.
elwuero said:
I really appreciate the time you put into that response. I have ATT but can easily switch to Sprint. I have long travel times daily and will take advantage of the TV on my phone but as I said I do have a Slingbox.
I have noticed a lot of G-Sensor apps dont work on the CDMA Telus version so my guess is they might not initially on the Sprint version. I also think your point about having more choices in phones by being on GSM makes a lot of sense. Thank you again - your thoughts are well taken and I know it took you time to express it.
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If you're satisfied with your plan then i'd just stay with ATT. You'd probably get more use out of Slingbox than Sprint TV, plus you can always load vids onto storage memory. And being able to upgrade whenever you want really comes in handy with the way HTC keeps updating their phone lineup about every 6 months.
is this possible? Please dont say no jus because YOU dont know.
ive been to flash2boostmobile.com but im not sure if its a scam or not.
im getting ready to FINALLY buy a hero but im not sure if itll switch over.
Someone please help me.
Many,many thanks well in advance
I'm not for sure, but it doesn't look real to me. Usally stuff like that has more pages and stuff like that.
I don't believe this will work as Sprint uses CDMA and Boost (although owned by Sprint) uses iDEN. iDEN is basically a SIM version of CDMA but doesn't work with either. Boost does offer something that lets you use certain Boost branded phones on Sprint's network however.
For the select handsets operating on Sprint's CDMA network, I would assume yes to 3G. The iDEN network, from what I'm reading, is a different network so I have no idea on that one.
It can be done, just not likely a legal way to do so.
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What Sprint phones will work on Boost, and how do I get ____ on Boost (part 2)
1.5 Is it possible to use other phones on Boost CDMA?
I've been thinking about the Boost thing to I know the only thing that would stop you is if sprint has some sort of subsidy code on these phones. I've had two unlocked gsm phones and the only from tmobile to at&t. I had to get the subsidy from tmo to get it to work on at&t then had to hack the phone to get the mms and internet to work. There is a guy on here that has successfully flashed his phone to metropcs so it is definitly possible. Only problem is that you would have to constantly fix your apn (depending on how often you change roms)
First, as others have stated, the comment about boost being iDen is only is not correct. Boost has iDen and CDMA. When I looked into it the only phones you couldn't put on Boost appeared to be the Android phones. I know there are other ways to do it but not sure if it is ok here to talk about that.
I am considering trying to get my Hero on Virgin Mobile though, the new Beyond Talk unlimited Data/txt/messaging plans for $25+ is just crazy.
bam_bam_imma said:
is this possible? Please dont say no jus because YOU dont know.
ive been to flash2boostmobile.com but im not sure if its a scam or not.
im getting ready to FINALLY buy a hero but im not sure if itll switch over.
Someone please help me.
Many,many thanks well in advance
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I wouldn't trust them as their information is incorrect. Boost Mobile is not 4G, nor is any of their phones capable of running on 4G.
Plus their price is just ridiculous.
We do the same thing and we are the originators of it. we started with BoostBerry3G.com, then SilverSpoonCells.com and now we are doing it for 30 different websites and 49 stores across US.
If you wanted to get this done check out the original Sprint to Boost Mobile Flashers at SilverSpoonCells.com.
All Sprint Models with a Clean ESN/MEID are compatible except: HTC Hero, Samsung Moment, palm pre, palm pixi, and BlackBerry 8530 Curve 2
In very rare occurences some Samsung Instincts have showed up as Incompatible.
1st-- THERE IS NO FLASH FOR BOOST
2nd-- Boost has BOTH CDMA AND IDEN(nextel sim only)
3rd--the only Droid phone u can get on Boost is the one they sell
4th-- only SPRINT phones can be activated on Boost(search here and Howard Forums for a list)
tlhop911 said:
1st-- THERE IS NO FLASH FOR BOOST
2nd-- Boost has BOTH CDMA AND IDEN(nextel sim only)
3rd--the only Droid phone u can get on Boost is the one they sell
4th-- only SPRINT phones can be activated on Boost(search here and Howard Forums for a list)
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1st -- you wouldn't be flashing anything to switch networks, thats a given (its not a ROM)
2nd-- you bringing up boost having cdma and iden a year later is pointless... this is definitely known already
3rd-- the only android phone you could "buy" from boost is the one they sell
4th-- heroC is a SPRINT phone, thus why this is in this particular forum, so did u not just contridict your 3rd point u made???
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1st -- you wouldn't be flashing anything to switch networks, thats a given (its not a ROM)
2nd-- you bringing up boost having cdma and iden a year later is pointless... this is definitely known already
3rd-- the only android phone you could "buy" from boost is the one they sell
4th-- heroC is a SPRINT phone, thus why this is in this particular forum, so did u not just contridict your 3rd point u made???
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I'm Also Curious about this topic... if Anyone can Confirm this one way or another Please PM me!
Thanx in Advance!
As my trusty ATT N1 soldiers on, I'm considering whether to jump to a new carrier in the near future so that I can stay current with upcoming Google Developer Phones. I would appreciate some feedback regarding the assumption that since the G1, Sapphire, and N1 were TMobile compliant, we can expect that the next Google Dev Phone might be exclusively flavored TMobile. Do you agree?
Thanks all.
We can assume sense they had a close relationship with Danger and now Google that they will stick with the same bands for Developer Phones. Just like we can only assume Google will stick with HTC for official Developer Phone hardware.
Again, this is only based on the past.
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We can assume sense they had a close relationship with Danger and now Google that they will stick with the same bands for Developer Phones. Just like we can only assume Google will stick with HTC for official Developer Phone hardware.
Again, this is only based on the past.
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true...only if we can trust history. thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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true...only if we can trust history. thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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well history is all we have to go on.
one of the main reasons why T-mobile 3G bands have been used on the dev phones so far is because its the most compatible worldwide (ie works with the most carriers in the world, you can use them in the US, Canada and in Europe)
considering this its pretty likely to continue to stay this way. ATT 3G band is no where near as widely used and CDMA phones must be carrier specific (well they don't have to be really hardware wise but the way they work vs GSM phones its extremely dependant on the provider allowing you to use a phone that is not theirs on their network, it can be done but its a real pain to get them to do it)
Frito11 said:
...one of the main reasons why T-mobile 3G bands have been used on the dev phones so far is because its the most compatible worldwide (ie works with the most carriers in the world, you can use them in the US, Canada and in Europe)
considering this its pretty likely to continue to stay this way. ATT 3G band is no where near as widely used and CDMA phones must be carrier specific...
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understood
Finally upgrading from my HTC 620 Dash. Planning to buy used or new touch pro 2. Using as GSM phone in Mexico. There are various US prices between ATT, T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon, Us Cellular branded phones. What carrier(s) should I stay away from concerning usability, ROM flashing, and SIM unlocking?
Any good advice would be helpful... even if it is a better phone option to buy!
You should buy the version that has the proper 3G radio for your carrier.
Unless the ATT version will get you 3G on your carrier, I'd stay away from it. The keyboard layout is different from all the other variants, as it has a row of near useless symbols on the top row (instead of numbers on every other version) and you have to hit FN to type a number.
Also, the Sprint and Verizon versions are primarily CDMA. They have some limited GSM radios for international use. But I believe they mainly just have the voice/EDGE radios, and limited, if any 3G radios.
As far as ROM flashing, there is not much difference. Some carrier specific issues, like the customized ATT keyboard just require an extra CAB to get the keyboard configuration correct.
You should try to buy the phone SIM unlocked. If the seller was a customer of the specific carrier (for instance, a T-Mobile customer selling the T-Mob branded version), they should be able to get the SIM unlock code from the carrier for free, so you don't have to pay to get it unlocked after you buy it.
Really, you main focus should be on the compatibility of the TP2 version with your carrier.
Thank you!
Exactly the information I needed. Very much appreciated!
I would wait until the binging of spring as many of the new HTC are coming out and with no set dates on the windows 7 phones you might want to try a few of them out before picking a branded phone.
As far as the Touch Pro 2 goes it's a great phone and it's a abilities a well worth notice. Great business phone but lack a lot of the social connections to it. As far as the phone being used in mexico, I would definitely look through the providers out there first. But I completely agree with redpoint73, there are many points to look at!
Hello everyone,
I want to to know exactly how I can implement this to my HTC one however what I've been told is that what ever Sprint devices they have sold will not able to work on this new upgrade.
I've been chatting back and fourth with an employee and he says it's a gsm based 4g LTE that's works on hspa or something that uses 1900mhz bandwidth. With that said will I be able to go ahead and convert to what my carrier uses?
Another note, I've successfully SIM unlocked but haven't had a SIM to try it out if it is unlocked, in doing the unlock will I be able to utilize this update to my carriers data speeds? All the employee said as of right now Sprint branded devices are not able to be used with the upgraded network and it uses a gsm based 4g that uses 1900mhz bands. Quite a few people are pissed about this but their normal users and do not know about root and everything associated with it, to include SIM unlocking.
Another thing the employee mentioned was they are now selling HTC one m7 and m8 that are able to utilize the network, he says they are "generic" and Verizon, what I'm thinking that they are just global versions of the device, so who ever got Sprint branded phones are screwed cause they can't upgrade to the new network.
I am hoping I can use this new found boost in data speeds locally!!
v1ral said:
Hello everyone,
I want to to know exactly how I can implement this to my HTC one however what I've been told is that what ever Sprint devices they have sold will not able to work on this new upgrade.
I've been chatting back and fourth with an employee and he says it's a gsm based 4g LTE that's works on hspa or something that uses 1900mhz bandwidth. With that said will I be able to go ahead and convert to what my carrier uses?
Another note, I've successfully SIM unlocked but haven't had a SIM to try it out if it is unlocked, in doing the unlock will I be able to utilize this update to my carriers data speeds? All the employee said as of right now Sprint branded devices are not able to be used with the upgraded network and it uses a gsm based 4g that uses 1900mhz bands. Quite a few people are pissed about this but their normal users and do not know about root and everything associated with it, to include SIM unlocking.
Another thing the employee mentioned was they are now selling HTC one m7 and m8 that are able to utilize the network, he says they are "generic" and Verizon, what I'm thinking that they are just global versions of the device, so who ever got Sprint branded phones are screwed cause they can't upgrade to the new network.
I am hoping I can use this new found boost in data speeds locally!!
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County? City? State? You provided no information here. Also from the sounds of it NO you can not convert your phone. The bands 4G uses are limited by the hardware in them, if you bought a SPRINT CDMA phone in a foreign county no one screwed anyone except you screwing yourself. You should have bought the global version directly from HTC.
Kraizk said:
County? City? State? You provided no information here. Also from the sounds of it NO you can not convert your phone. The bands 4G uses are limited by the hardware in them, if you bought a SPRINT CDMA phone in a foreign county no one screwed anyone except you screwing yourself. You should have bought the global version directly from HTC.
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Thanks.
I'm not in the states I'm located in Guam, I'm aware of the hardware limitations, but I'm wondering if the device will be able to pick up signal. I believe my carrier will be using hsdpa bands at 1900mhz and I'm under the impression that the Sprint use those
I am screwed as well as others that have gotten Sprint branded devices here, I feel for them but those people are normal users, that don't know rooting and what associated with it. I don't feel too bad about having this device at all, it's been working great, I was just waiting for my carrier to bring out something 3G data.
I was really banking on having it be able to get the upgraded speeds, and maybe help others who are on the same boat as me.
Thanks again!