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[Q] how to remove cyanogenmod and return to stock rom??

hello friends i have installed cyanogenmod on my optimus 2x one week ago and now i want to teturn to my old original gingerbread stock rom that lg provided me. i didnt take nandroid backup of that rom. so pls guys help me as soon as possible. as give me brief details of updating thax in advance..

Take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035041&highlight=original
Find your firmware that fits to your country and provider. Download the file and read the instructions (link at the bottom of the first post).
After that, you'll have an untouched stock rom again (but why? )

If you have a Backup of the Stock ROM you could just restore from it.
But if you dont, you have to download your ROM and use SmartFlash.
You should try MIUI Roms if CMs a bit out of your taste.
Goodluck though!

xerol said:
hello friends i have installed cyanogenmod on my optimus 2x one week ago and now i want to teturn to my old original gingerbread stock rom that lg provided me. i didnt take nandroid backup of that rom. so pls guys help me as soon as possible. as give me brief details of updating thax in advance..
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Can i know the reason why u want to go back to stock....?if it is to something specific....its ok...but if it is to change ROMs...then i can suggest something....

SREEPRAJAY said:
Can i know the reason why u want to go back to stock....?if it is to something specific....its ok...but if it is to change ROMs...then i can suggest something....
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Feel free to suggest
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luka2858 said:
Feel free to suggest
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Try the newer ROMs based on V20O....which will ofcourse require you to flash the Base Band V20M and the RIL recommended by GetRIL or LG RIL apps.
But, personally, I was happy with Thanatos 5.1, Blazing Dragon 2.1a, Django0.5ICS with spica's Kernel....all these gave me a minimum of 40hrs in battery performance and the device was very soft with movement with extremely few reboots and FCs in app openings.
Everything depends on ur satisfaction and feel.....Try these....I tried also the CM7 but changed....so try all the great work by developers....appreciate the fact that without these guys....this device would be uninteresting...
BRAVO DEVELOPERS of LG O2X

May I also ask - what ROM were you specifically using? Were you using CM 7.1 normal? Were you using some other CM7 based rom?
I recently made the switch from stock GB to tomasek's CM7 nightly based rom and I'm not going back - it's just heaps and bounds better than anything else I've tried.
If you have in fact tried a recent CM7 "Kang" build then please tell us what you found lacking.
To me there would only be one single reason to go back to stock - the LG widgets. I haven't found anything that works like the LG Memo widget anywhere else. (ie it's a widget, not only an app. You can also slide left/right to get the next/previous note. I haven't found anything that can do this). If someone pointed me at a similar widget then I'd be set.
But that aside, it's worth not having the LG widgets if it means getting all the other improvements of CM.
Another big point for me - Where do you think the first ICS roms will come from?
Very likely CM9. They are hard at work at it right now and looking at the progress document they're making huge steps every day.
So getting used to CM7.x now only means that it's easier to switch to CM9 (ICS) when it comes.
That's just my 0.02 of whatever currency you happen to be using.
// Stefan

yeah just flash a stock rom over it, and make a backup of your apps if you need to

SREEPRAJAY said:
Try the newer ROMs based on V20O....which will ofcourse require you to flash the Base Band V20M and the RIL recommended by GetRIL or LG RIL apps.
But, personally, I was happy with Thanatos 5.1, Blazing Dragon 2.1a, Django0.5ICS with spica's Kernel....all these gave me a minimum of 40hrs in battery performance and the device was very soft with movement with extremely few reboots and FCs in app openings.
Everything depends on ur satisfaction and feel.....Try these....I tried also the CM7 but changed....so try all the great work by developers....appreciate the fact that without these guys....this device would be uninteresting...
BRAVO DEVELOPERS of LG O2X
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O i appreciate their work,spica1234 made kernels that made even stock rom good..
Sent from my LG-P990 using XDA App

Wheres my BEATS audio?
I have CYANOGENMOD loaded on my HTC ON SPRINT. Now my play store does not work.... And I seem to be stuck from downloading anything.
What the heck... Please help.... Been searching here for almost a week.
I a OK going wither way. Completing the CYANOGENMOD or returning to the STOCK ROM.:cyclops::fingers-crossed:
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eistmxcxc said:
Take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035041&highlight=original
Find your firmware that fits to your country and provider. Download the file and read the instructions (link at the bottom of the first post).
After that, you'll have an untouched stock rom again (but why? )
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I see no thread for the USA. My HTC ONE SPRINT USA is not able to access the PLAYSTORE since my botched change to CYANOGENMOD.

[email protected] said:
I have CYANOGENMOD loaded on my HTC ON SPRINT. Now my play store does not work.... And I seem to be stuck from downloading anything.
What the heck... Please help.... Been searching here for almost a week.
I a OK going wither way. Completing the CYANOGENMOD or returning to the STOCK ROM.:cyclops::fingers-crossed:
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I see no thread for the USA. My HTC ONE SPRINT USA is not able to access the PLAYSTORE since my botched change to CYANOGENMOD.
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Please don't post it here, just go to the HTC One thread. Are you sure you did install the gapps?

Gapps won't install
wouter-visser said:
Please don't post it here, just go to the HTC One thread. Are you sure you did install the gapps?
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It says can't open file. ?

Almost CM7 Gone?

Hi, I'm a bit lost.
I'm wanting to have the CM7 for my LG Thrill. I'm not a fan of being an updater this, update that bull****.
I want a stable ROM, does anyone have a link to the LG Thrill Almost CM7?
I want a working CM7 build that I've not gotta worry about waiting every week to update.
I'm currently on Doomed Froyo & to add its my favorite ROM.
Yet, I'm tired of it after seeing no future ROM builds as of lately.
Has anybody any idea of what I can do? :/
Sent from a Doomed Optimus 3D

Hope this helps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302162
When it does release in final Cyanogen 7.1 / 9.x (Maybe? Hopefully?) , definitely go with that
Soo, yeah.

iamsoawesome said:
Hope this helps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302162
When it does release in final Cyanogen 7.1 / 9.x (Maybe? Hopefully?) , definitely go with that
Soo, yeah.
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I just had a random reboot 45 mins after flashing this.
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I am going to give it a run for a day see what happens.I'm about to grab another phone because lack of Roms for this phone.Maybe a skyrocket or vivid who knows.
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Sorry man, worked with me no problem. If it does work as you want it to though, it's really not worth changing phones. I know this from experience. But if not, go for it.

Just flash the CM7 nightly. Any further flashing/installing you need to do is done without wiping anything. You simply download and install the zip through recovery. Everything stays absolutely the same as far as your apps and screens and setups.

I had problems with nightlys echos and a clicking noise.So far only had that one reboot,about to test the battery out.
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Man phone did good today battery life wasnt good then I got home from work and phone kept rebooting wouldnt go to sleep acting crazy.Back to the nightlys.

Temasek's Kang features

I see lots on folks using Temasek's Kang . Could we have reviews ,screen shots & videos of this Kang , highlighting differences between TK and CWM . Temasek has listed out detailed release changes on his thread . But a high level feature list would be useful for folks starting on a Kang diet . ( Me included)
Also can I install Temasek's Kang on top of CM 204 nightly ( without deleting data).

Yes u can install latest kang over nightly 204.
For a detail list, you need to read my changelogs. I do keep a long list of different builds changelogs. Some changelogs have pictures of major features.
Highest downloads of my kang was around 2500 +++. So basically that perhaps the number of users using kangs.

Just flash it over 204. ICS rotation animation alone is cool enough to give you the reason to use it

I am on latest kang from temasek. Where can I see these Ics transitions? Do I need to use Adw to see them?
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rktdi said:
I am on latest kang from temasek. Where can I see these Ics transitions? Do I need to use Adw to see them?
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You do not need ADW or any third party app to see it.
Go to Settings > Display > Animation. And make sure "All animations" is checked.
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ron_gangte said:
You do not need ADW or any third party app to see it.
Go to Settings > Display > Animation. And make sure "All animations" is checked.
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Done, was like that.
Where do i see the transitions then?

rktdi said:
I am on latest kang from temasek. Where can I see these Ics transitions? Do I need to use Adw to see them?
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No - you should see them when opening/closing apps etc. Not that spectacular.
But the ICS rotation animation is great - you'll see it when switching to landscape/portrait mode - in older days the screen would just "update" - now it has a nice turning animation.

Maybe i'm just used to it by now - being on this awesome KANG

Stupid question, well I'm new O2X user .. I'm now using CM7 and want to try Kang 63. Do I need to flash stock ROM first? or just flash the Kang (using CWM)?
Any help would be appreciated Thanks!

Just flash it over your older CM7 no return to stock needed.

So, is this finally the most stable and valuable rom available? Already tried some, but they always had some problems with stability, speed and/or battery.

DivInstinct said:
So, is this finally the most stable and valuable rom available? Already tried some, but they always had some problems with stability, speed and/or battery.
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The latest CM7 Temasek KANG is really stable. So, don't worry about that

It really is good! Stable as stone.

I flashed my wife's o2x with this rom 4 days ago, so far no complaint from her and she really impressed with the smoothness of the UI and camera function.
However, my OB p970 do not hv market after flashing his p970 rom..

If i flash temaseks CM7 over CM7 nightliest, do i need to wipe my data or cache and dalvik cache is enough?

alvin.durant said:
If i flash temaseks CM7 over CM7 nightliest, do i need to wipe my data or cache and dalvik cache is enough?
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No wipe necessary. Just flash it.

syukrir said:
I flashed my wife's o2x with this rom 4 days ago, so far no complaint from her and she really impressed with the smoothness of the UI and camera function.
However, my OB p970 do not hv market after flashing his p970 rom..
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Grab gapps 2.3.7 from my mediafire folder and flash it.

Ooow, okay, give it a try then!
Thanks!

Thx, temasek. Juz did that yesterday and it solved my misery =).
Another thing, can I confirm is this rom does not hv video call function?
Thx in advance.
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Ahh really stable indeed (for now), thanks for the tips!
The only thing I find annoying, is the (little bit) stutter scrolling... I actually had this problem with all the cyanogenmods. Am I doing something wrong crucially? :S I am using the default kernels coming with the roms, ril/baseband 725 (which shouldn't be the cause I think?) and I am not doing strange customizations... Also tried all the 4 scrolling-cache options but doesn't matter.
Someone knows what I am doing wrong? Or is it just me and my perfectionistic eyes who need 60 fps animations?
Thanks!

[Q] CM 10 for optimus 3d doeant have data network on lg thrill

Can anyone tell me if its possible to get data network on thrill.

there might be, but unless someone posts it actually working, dont use cm10. when i used it, i had signal the first time. however, after an hour or so, my phone randomly rebooted. after it turned back on, service was gone, and IT KEPT rebooting every 2 minutes or so. also, same goes for jellybean and pacman

hummerh14 said:
Can anyone tell me if its possible to get data network on thrill.
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It does works for the thrill. You just have to flash bernis u-boot and x-loader. I was using it on my v20p thrill. I switch back to GB because people on the other end of the phone were hearing an echo. If you can live with that it works fine. Just go to the o3d development threads there is a thread that explains how to install everything.
Sent my from nook tablet using android 4.2.1 jb /cm10.1 rom.

billy8362 said:
It does works for the thrill. You just have to flash bernis u-boot and x-loader. I was using it on my v20p thrill. I switch back to GB because people on the other end of the phone were hearing an echo. If you can live with that it works fine. Just go to the o3d development threads there is a thread that explains how to install everything.
Sent my from nook tablet using android 4.2.1 jb /cm10.1 rom.
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Hey thanks for the response do you think u can link me to the guide for this. To tell the truth this phone has alot of potential just no one who wants to build ice also what do u mean jellybean does that mean there's a jellybean for o3d.

hummerh14 said:
Hey thanks for the response do you think u can link me to the guide for this. To tell the truth this phone has alot of potential just no one who wants to build ice also what do u mean jellybean does that mean there's a jellybean for o3d.
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hey hummeh,
if it does work, another rom is called jellybam you could try it out. it is an expansion from cm10

tang097 said:
hey hummeh,
if it does work, another rom is called jellybam you could try it out. it is an expansion from cm10
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have you tried this rom looks amazing but im sort afraid to try it because most roms never seem to work for me.

hummerh14 said:
have you tried this rom looks amazing but im sort afraid to try it because most roms never seem to work for me.
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i've tried it in the past. it would work the first time, yet when i reboot, i would lose all sort of network and reboot randomly. however, its the same as cm10. so if cm10 works for you, this should work as well

Hey do u have working flash in that ROM u suggested on the other forum.
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Is CM10 critical for you?
Because I installed ICS port by XBSA, samno kernel and v20c baseband and it's amazing, like new phone! (in Canada)
You can find all info in Optimus 3D development section. Our phones are EXACTLY the same, just different basebands. With v20c I have 3G/H in WCDMA 850 and WCDMA 1900.
It's challenging process but it worth it. I can help.
Good luck!

Does the back and search button work because other than that I don't really want it.

hummerh14 said:
Does the back and search button work because other than that I don't really want it.
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Yes, buttons work as suppose to IF you install custom kernel on top of ROM. I use one made by samno (lots of settings too):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2077071
Hope it will help.
Good luck!

OK what phone do u have a lg thrill or optimus 3d also I heard the back and search button doesn't work with lg thrill and if i t does work do u want to help me.

Ok, my phone was originally LG-P925g with Rogers (Canada) - I'm not sure if it was officially called Thrill since I bought it used. Then I read and realized that it's absolutely the same phone as Optimus 3D (920).
So for last year I was using Prometheus ROM with iBluekernel.
Then I decided to try ICS port from XBSA. And it worked. Lots of hoops to go thrugh but works.
Then I put kernel made by samno (in 3D development section) and that kernel solved button issue. But I got another one - at home I could connect to wifi but couldn't go past router. So today I flashed kernel made by iodak and am happy surfer.
If you just flash xbsa port you will have all 4 buttons, but BACK button works as HOME and SEARCH as BACK. HOME is HOME and SETTINGS is SETTINGS.
I hope it helps.
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OK what phone do u have a lg thrill or optimus 3d also I heard the back and search button doesn't work with lg thrill and if i t does work do u want to help me.
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Goldenmeadow said:
Ok, my phone was originally LG-P925g with Rogers (Canada) - I'm not sure if it was officially called Thrill since I bought it used. Then I read and realized that it's absolutely the same phone as Optimus 3D (920).
So for last year I was using Prometheus ROM with iBluekernel.
Then I decided to try ICS port from XBSA. And it worked. Lots of hoops to go thrugh but works.
Then I put kernel made by samno (in 3D development section) and that kernel solved button issue. But I got another one - at home I could connect to wifi but couldn't go past router. So today I flashed kernel made by iodak and am happy surfer.
If you just flash xbsa port you will have all 4 buttons, but BACK button works as HOME and SEARCH as BACK. HOME is HOME and SETTINGS is SETTINGS.
I hope it helps.
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So what r u using and how r the buttons also what kernel did u flash that has working WiFi and buttons.

hummerh14 said:
So what r u using and how r the buttons also what kernel did u flash that has working WiFi and buttons.[/QUOTE
Can you help me upgrade to that because im sick of the cm10 breaking wifi and the battery life is terrible
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Anyone tried CM 10.2 (Android 4.3) yet?

So it looks like Cyanogenmod 10.2 was released early this morning as a nightly. It's based on Android 4.3, which was released for the Nexus devices a few weeks ago I think.
I've been pretty happy with the nightly version of 10.1 I've had on my phone for a couple of weeks now, but I think I might backup my phone and see whether the latest version is worth keeping.
Anyone tried it already and have any comments?
Edit: Tried it, can't use it yet. Keyboard problems, freezing. Oh well.

Been running for about 4 hours at this point, all apps restored.
Had one blue screen reboot on screen wake.
First impression is that it is very smooth. Focal force closes so can't try that.
Camera works but is not stable.
Definitely a beta but off to a good start for the first 10.2. But I can't live with random reboots so back to 10.1-M3 for now.

10.2 has different vold configs
In the 10.1.2 nightlies I was able to manually edit /syste/etc/vold.fstab to swap internal and external sd-card.
This has changed under JB 4.3 and CM 10.2.x. Details are provided here:
http://source.android.com/devices/tech/storage/index.html
[ UPDATE ] Root also works differntly in JB 4.3, so that needs to be sorted as well.

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Been running for about 4 hours at this point, all apps restored.
Had one blue screen reboot on screen wake.
First impression is that it is very smooth. Focal force closes so can't try that.
Camera works but is not stable.
Definitely a beta but off to a good start for the first 10.2. But I can't live with random reboots so back to 10.1-M3 for now.
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I never restore apps when testing these cause it can cause problems. Did you use Titanium to restore the apps?

No. Just letting the restore function do it from the market.

I installed the nightlies of 8-16-13 and so far (no jinx) hasn't gave me any problems...ofcourse instagram video n pics don't work but other then that its good..so 10.2 cm is based on 4.3? I didn't see it in the tmo cm page...can u share a link if possible?
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I use helium and so far it's WAY better then titanium...titanium used to freeze on me when resorting data til I found helium...u can back up messaging and call history along with it all data...I highly recommend it..free on app store n premium idk I forgot how much it cost lol
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angelf82 said:
..so 10.2 cm is based on 4.3? I didn't see it in the tmo cm page...can u share a link if possible?
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Yes, it is 4.3.
The test is to see if you can run for several days with no unexpected restarts. If you are able to do that , then be sure and post and tell others about it because that has been the problem for many months now.
All CyanogenMod downloads are always available at http://get.cm
Just scroll down to quincytmo on the left, then choose nightly on top left.

Cool...found it...now there's a newer nightly for 10.1 can I just flash the zip without restarting anythin? Thnx...
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If you are running a 10.1 you can just run your cm updater and chosen the new 10.1 nightly.
If you go from 10.1 to 10.2, you should do a typical new ROM procedure. A backup, then factory reset, then flash the new ROM, then the 2013-8-13 gapps, then wipe dalvik and cache, then finally reboot.

I put the boot from the quincytmo 10.2 into the Pacman 4.3 alpha zip. Also using PA 4.3 gapps. Will let you know how it goes.

Been using it for almost 3days. Works great and smooth. At first, youtube seems to crash always, gps doesn't work and i can't download and even update my apps in playstore. (what i did is that reinstall youtube, and sign out my google acct. and then sign in it again to fix playstore and dunno how GPS was fixed . Wiping cache & dalvic cache and rebooting ma phone helped. And now everything's going and works so smooth! N i love it.
Btw focal doesn't work at all. Dunno how to fix it. Always crashes.
Other than that.. Still the best )
- Samsung Galaxy i9000
- cm 10.2
Thnks to devs!
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U were able to use pac man 4.3 with tmobile phone? If everything looks good can u plz share the file? Thnx fraught...:thumbup::thumbup:
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angelf82 said:
U were able to use pac man 4.3 with tmobile phone? If everything looks good can u plz share the file? Thnx fraught...:thumbup::thumbup:
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You'll have to use TWRP for ATT. Also, flash the T-Mobile radio too. This isn't supported for T-Mobile so backup and flash at your own risk.
JamieD81's Pacman Rom 4.3
http://ppl.ug/T0mRM0lMhuk/
PA gapps 4.3
http://goo.im/devs/paranoidandroid/roms/gapps/pa_gapps-full-4.3-20130815-signed.zip

No reboots or anything, just a bit slow out of sleep mode. I went back to Padawan 9 for now as I'm going out tonight and don't want any surprises when I go to take a photo.

hahahaha true that...ok ima give it a shot! u are always helpful fraught! u should be a developer with all that knowledge you have and ure in LA i'm in Pomona so u ain't too far bro! well have fun n i'll post my experience of 4.3 pacman....oh have you injected anything on any other ATT roms? like pimpdroid rom? I think that's what its called...and I heard rootbox is good too...what about injected the bootimage to an official ATT JB rom? have you tried that?

angelf82 said:
hahahaha true that...ok ima give it a shot! u are always helpful fraught! u should be a developer with all that knowledge you have and ure in LA i'm in Pomona so u ain't too far bro! well have fun n i'll post my experience of 4.3 pacman....oh have you injected anything on any other ATT roms? like pimpdroid rom? I think that's what its called...and I heard rootbox is good too...what about injected the bootimage to an official ATT JB rom? have you tried that?
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Honestly, all I'm doing is swapping files around with winrar. There has to be a compatible boot image though. Unfortunately, without a T-Mobile official JellyBean update, I don't think we can use ATT touchwiz JB roms. A shame as I installed Padawan JB on my friend's i717 and it was killer.
Really though, there are already enough 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 roms to keep me occupied for the time being. I've sort of shyed away from the 4.2 roms as of late and have been just playing with the very stable 4.1 setups as I don't want my phone rebooting on me while I'm at a party or want to have my camera instantly available.

Well to know how to swap files id be lost! I used to have a quincyatt and yeah padawan was really good but 4g speeds on tmobile network were horrible...yeah there are lots of roms but the more we get the more excited we get...
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angelf82 said:
Well to know how to swap files id be lost! I used to have a quincyatt and yeah padawan was really good but 4g speeds on tmobile network were horrible...yeah there are lots of roms but the more we get the more excited we get...
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What radio are you using with Padawan? I've just been using UVLG3 modem and it's been good enough for streaming youtube.

Ive been using that one and yes its really good but here I meant was I used to use blaze modem with att phone and it was horrible speeds...thats why I switched to tmo note...
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Some of you may read the ATT Note forum. Over there the member ~SoulTaker~ has been compiling Cyanogenmod 10.2 on his own for those users. Because Cyanogenmod has not been creating 10.2 nightlies for the Note.
I have a compile and upload routine setup to produce UNOFFICIAL 10.2 nightlies for the Tmobile note if you want to try them. all are working OK so far, they are the same as what we would be getting from the Cyanogenmod build servers if they were building nightlies for us. All the standard warnings apply.
Here is the link to my google drive folder with the files. Click on the file you want, you will get an error because it can't preview, then look for the download arrow on the bottom right of the screen, click that.
Changelog is the regular 10.2 changelog (when it is up) and look between the date of the last file and the newest. http://10.2.cmxlog.com/?device=quincytmo
NOTE** I am just generating the zip file from Cyanogenmods github, not creating anything. So can't help you if you want a feature or fix or something.