Hi I am new to android and am considering switching from my iphone 3gs to a nexus one (or possible samsung captivate) It would be great if yall could answer these questions and any other helpful information you have on the phone!
1. How are the touch sensitive buttons on the bottom of the phone? Do yall ever have any trouble activating them or anything?
2. How is the battery life on this phone? I use my phone for texting ALOT, probably 5000 messages a month. Will i still be able to get a good days use out of the phone? That's all i really need because i charge it at night anyway. Also does rooting the phone and installing different ROMs or kernels improve battery life, or any other improvements over stock android? If so, which ones would you recommend for this.
3. I've read about screen burn in and some touch screen issues, have yall experienced any of these first hand?
I would be very appreciative if you could answer these questions for me
1. How are the touch sensitive buttons on the bottom of the phone? Do yall ever have any trouble activating them or anything?
I don't but my wife does. However, she tends to mash the screen with the side of her thumb because she is a blackberry user and has long nails. As an iphone user I'd think you'd be fine. You'll LOVE Swype.
2. How is the battery life on this phone? I use my phone for texting ALOT, probably 5000 messages a month. Will i still be able to get a good days use out of the phone? That's all i really need because i charge it at night anyway. Also does rooting the phone and installing different ROMs or kernels improve battery life, or any other improvements over stock android? If so, which ones would you recommend for this.
My N1 lasts all day easily, unless I'm doing something crazy like wireless tethering without a charger. That said I have a 2nd battery on a home charger because I hate (or badly forget about) leaving my phone plugged in EVER. Mostly I swap the battery in the morning on my way out. Froyo boots up fast!
3. I've read about screen burn in and some touch screen issues, have yall experienced any of these first hand?
I would be very appreciative if you could answer these questions for me.
Have not noticed any burn in issues yet. The contrast on the N1 AMOLED is a gorgeous thing to behold. It has a nicer image than my LED backlit Samsung TV, which is no chump.
However, the phone's screen struggles terribly in direct sunlight.
1. Touch buttons have been improved and are more responsive after the Froyo update.
2. Can be be good, can be bad. Should last you the day, but with heavy texting i wouldn't know. If you unlock and root it you can experiment with different roms and kernels to improve it. When i got my phone with stock 2.1 -update1 the battery was average. But then i unlocked it and flashe Cyanogen ROM and the battery got way better. So it is up to you. Unlocking and rooting voids warranty, but HTC have been kind to fix/replace phone as long as you re-flash stock to it.
3. Has happened to some. Mostly i think is due to the white status-bar that with long use on highest brightness. It can happen because it is fixed on one place allowing the white and bright burn gradually into the screen. Like the old Tv's (pre-plasma) you know. Leave it on overnight with a still image actually burns the image on the screen when turning it off. Old news really . Again, rooting it will allow you to install a black status bar thus eliminate the threat of a screen burn.
Most phones like these struggles in sunlight. But when beefing brightness to MAX it actually is "OK" to use it in the sun.
i have the slight burn in. its very faint and you would not even notice it AT ALL its that minor. but the problem is google made the status bar all white, and it never moves from that position of the screen no matter what you are doing with the phone. so because its amoled screen, those pixels wore out slightly quicker.
there is an easy way to avoid this problem, change to an all black color status bar. problem solved however you need to root in order to do this. good news is that now you can root without unlocking the bootloader, so HTC can never tell the phone was rooted, in case you were worried about voiding the warranty.
How can you root without unlocking the bootloader? And how do you change the color of the notification bar? Is there a simple themeing application like there is on jailbroken iphones?
Look in Developers section for the non-unlocking rooting thread.
(personally - I don't live in US so warranty means nothing to me, my phone was rooted after ~2 hours I took to check intact parts functionality).
Look up "Metamorph" in Apps section.
Another question, my girlfriend recently got the mytouch 3g. It works pretty decent and everything, but it is quite noticeably choppy. I would assume the nexus one is very smooth due to the 1ghz processor?
legion21 said:
How can you root without unlocking the bootloader?
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Pretty easily: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
I purchased a note from amazon last week . when the phone arrived the screen had the banding issue so I re ordered a replacement
The smoothness of the banded phone was really good - yes the home screens lagged a little however the new phone which arrived today has a real lag .. it doesnt seem fluid when moving between home screens , the apps tray does seem smooth ..... i have HD widgets on my home screen, my email app and message app widgets and couple of contacts on direct dial
It just doesnt seem fluid as it should be with a dual core 1.4 .....
Is it possible for the processor to be faulty or am I worrying about something which will be changed on ICS .... I know I am looking hard for faults as I want the perfect handset at the price ive paid ...
The screen on this one is perfect as far as I can tell (ive decided some apps have the banding not the screen) I have decided its perfect because a HD film is out of this world .
What do you think .. if im happy with the screen and everything else .. is the lag something which will go over time with firmware update
Thanks in advance
HD widgets make the screen transition laggy(only on that page).. just try removing it./..
I'd say its fully possible with faulty hardware similair to pc with fault ram. Me and My friend have the same issue, my note is fully tweaked and he is on stock rom NO tweaks. He never experiences the 1-3 lag that i've described in my topic so yes I think there are faulty units, since In my case even when reverting to stock the 1-3sec lag is there, yawn!
Were they both running the same firmware?
Did you upgrade your Firmware OTA (Settings -> Phone Info -> Software Update)? If no, do so. The current firmware is WAY more responsive.
Its probably possible everyone goes on about lag here but mine is smooth always, the only time it lags is when I first get on the homescreen after boot up after a couple of seconds though the lag disappears.
There are a lot of lag complaints on the note, Im yet to actually see one though so Im guessing it could be a defective part.. why not try to hardreset the phone and see from there?
Hi guys,
So somehow, (and I really have no idea how I even managed to do this) I went three months without noticing the horrendous black clipping on my Int. Note. Last night I was cursing YouTube's streaming and then realised something was up. After a quick look at the test PNG which I quickly discovered I'm unable to see 1, 2 and 3 which makes for a pretty ugly experience when watching darker videos.
So my question is this. Should I root and go ParanoidAndroid to try and alleviate my issue (I assume part of this process will include flashing a new kernel which is where the issue lies?) or is there a chance that Samsung will ship a new kernel with the imminent (we hope) JB update?
I'm no newbie to rooting and totally hacked my HTC Desire to within an inch of it's life (figuratively speaking, I never bricked it) and I'm always tinkering with an Advent Vega for fun. However, I'm a bit worn out by rooting and reading up on all the proper routes, new radios, kernel issues, bugs etc. I'd like a 'quiet' life with the Note where possible!
Do you think I'll 'get away' with rooting this time or is it going to be likely needed to fix this problem?
DavieMarshall said:
Hi guys,
So somehow, (and I really have no idea how I even managed to do this) I went three months without noticing the horrendous black clipping on my Int. Note. Last night I was cursing YouTube's streaming and then realised something was up. After a quick look at the test PNG which I quickly discovered I'm unable to see 1, 2 and 3 which makes for a pretty ugly experience when watching darker videos.
So my question is this. Should I root and go ParanoidAndroid to try and alleviate my issue (I assume part of this process will include flashing a new kernel which is where the issue lies?) or is there a chance that Samsung will ship a new kernel with the imminent (we hope) JB update?
Do you think I'll 'get away' with rooting this time or is it going to be likely needed to fix this problem?
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My opinion:
Samsung correcting the Gamma table on the firmware, so dark colors appear really dark and not light gray or completly black is unlikely. They are following the strategy embraced by other manufacturers and just release a new model with a slightly better CPU and fixes for the bugs of the previous model.
xda-developers community releasing a ROM that is realy usable and fixes this: not likely either. A ROM that has no support for camera, HD recording, FM radio or S-Pen is not going to convince many people to switch.
I recently took my Note to Samsung technical service because the screen looked yellow (another known manufacturing defect), and they replaced the entire screen, but the new one shows the same black clipping problem.
Apps like filter your screen just lower the contrast so the blacks become more gray, but the darkest tone of gray the Note can show is still too bright, leading to anything below RGB (50,50,50) appearing almost the same tone of gray.
I have just moved to a phone by other company and compared it to the Galaxy Note:
Screen is IPS, viewing angle is not so ample as in an AMOLED but at least white appears white, not light brown
The gammatest.png image is displayed correctly, top row of squares going from black to very dark gray.
Brightness on the Note is limited to avoid burning the AMOLED too fast, and even so, I had burn-in on the top of the screen after only 3 months
My new phone has 1 GB RAM, and 980 MB are listed, not 808, and I have 400 used normally, with 580 free. Note had usually 700 MB used
My new phone seems to spend more time on deep sleep, no Samsung apps or services working on the background
As soon as i try to shift to wqhd+ with 120 hz , the performance of the phone decreases alot , i see stutters here and there . The phone remains extra warm while using , even the typing isnt as smooth.
But as soon as i switch to fhd+ , omg the phone is really fast again .. no stutters ,
Phone remains very light warm , typing super snooth .
Is there anyone facing the same issue ?
( reminds of my old s9plus with exynos where it was not able to handle wqhd resolution.)
My point is , why do they even offer wqhd when the chipset is weak to handle ?
Is there anyone facing the same thing ?
Fine here , been using wqhd 120hz since first time
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Fine here , been using wqhd 120hz since first time
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Exynos ?
What are your ambient temperatures outside ?
I found WQHD to be smoother. Phone seemed less hesitant (for lack of a better word) in day to day interaction. For example, when set to FHD+, there would be a small delay after unlocking, before the screen starting accepting a touch input. Nothing lagged, but there was this feeling that the CPU/GPU was scaling up an FHD interface onto a WQHD screen (Number of pixels remain the same on the screen, whatever resolution you pick). Once i changed to native WQHD resolution, everything seemed to be instantaneous. It may be consuming more battery, I'm not sure - but i don't see a worse battery life than what it was on FHD+.
During a CODM session I noticed that FHD+ gameplay was smoother than WQHD - so that's probably going to be my use case for FHD+ - Gaming. For everything else, I'll stick to WQHD for sometime and post my experience if I notice any downsides.
What i have noticed is , if you change the resolution from 1440 to 1080 .
The phones data in certain apps still shows that phone is rendering 515 ppi
A restart is must after changing resolution ..
Try to reduce to 1080p , do a reboot , and then use the phone and see if there is a difference ..
Will try today and see if the reboot idea makes a difference over the next 1-2 days
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Will try today and see if the reboot idea makes a difference over the next 1-2 days
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So far, FHD+ seems to be easier on the battery. The touch delay has disappeared after a reboot, so thanks for that suggestion!
Charged nearly a day ago, and did regular usage including half an hour of CODM, WhatsApp, XDA, reddit etc mostly on wifi. Auto dark mode (sunset to sunrise)
With that kind of use case, I'm at 19+ hours since full charge, 4+ hours of screen on time and still have around half the battery left.
I can live with that.
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So far, FHD+ seems to be easier on the battery. The touch delay has disappeared after a reboot, so thanks for that suggestion!
Charged nearly a day ago, and did regular usage including half an hour of CODM, WhatsApp, XDA, reddit etc mostly on wifi. Auto dark mode (sunset to sunrise)
With that kind of use case, I'm at 19+ hours since full charge, 4+ hours of screen on time and still have around half the battery left.
I can live with that.
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So thats the point .
Qhd is good , but its not easy on cpu/gpu as well as battery .
I am more concerned about the overall general performance , ( not gaming)
Hows the overall performance as of now ?
Like using whatsapp , insta ,facebook , typing , browsing , etc?
Better/smoother than qhd? Or similer ?
aj7400 said:
So thats the point .
Qhd is good , but its not easy on cpu/gpu as well as battery .
I am more concerned about the overall general performance , ( not gaming)
Hows the overall performance as of now ?
Like using whatsapp , insta ,facebook , typing , browsing , etc?
Better/smoother than qhd? Or similer ?
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Honestly speaking, general performance seems no different between FHD and WQHD. I can't even tell which resolution I'm running unless I go to the resolution setting page.
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Honestly speaking, general performance seems no different between FHD and WQHD. I can't even tell which resolution I'm running unless I go to the resolution setting page.
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Yes .. thats true .. its just after changing the setting . You realise that its different .
After like 5 mins of using i barely notice the change in resolution .
I dont know how you are able to achieve that type of battery ..
I might have tinkered with a lot of setting , installed galaxy labs and good lock too .
According to you should i get my phone restored ( software) once from the service centre ?
Or will the factory reset be enough ?
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Yes .. thats true .. its just after changing the setting . You realise that its different .
After like 5 mins of using i barely notice the change in resolution .
I dont know how you are able to achieve that type of battery ..
I might have tinkered with a lot of setting , installed galaxy labs and good lock too .
According to you should i get my phone restored ( software) once from the service centre ?
Or will the factory reset be enough ?
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I have good lock too, haven't used labs. I like to tinker with my phone as well. But I don't usually make changes outside what the OS allows (I've changed only user facing options, not dug into system disabling apps, or other such activity)
Service center will not do anything more than what you will do at home. If you think you may have messed up too many settings and can't recover from it, just do a factory restore and set up again. But for the first week or so, expect poor battery life as the OS settles down. Coming from a OnePlus, I actually quite like Samsung software. It has a polish that OnePlus lacks, being built purely for Speed. It's quite robust, just make small incremental changes to set up to your liking, battery life will settle down to a comfortable level.
My battery life was terrible when I got the phone a week ago, but has continued to get better with time.
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I have good lock too, haven't used labs. I like to tinker with my phone as well. But I don't usually make changes outside what the OS allows (I've changed only user facing options, not dug into system disabling apps, or other such activity)
Service center will not do anything more than what you will do at home. If you think you may have messed up too many settings and can't recover from it, just do a factory restore and set up again. But for the first week or so, expect poor battery life as the OS settles down. Coming from a OnePlus, I actually quite like Samsung software. It has a polish that OnePlus lacks, being built purely for Speed. It's quite robust, just make small incremental changes to set up to your liking, battery life will settle down to a comfortable level.
My battery life was terrible when I got the phone a week ago, but has continued to get better with time.
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Do you think it could be an issue of bad os ?
Will the restore from service centre make any difference ?
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Do you think it could be an issue of bad os ?
Will the restore from service centre make any difference ?
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Honestly, I dont know. Only way to find out is to try. But once again, I don't think Service Centre people will do any special software flash that you cannot do with a factory reset at home. If I was you, i'd not give my phone to a stranger unless I couldn't manage or fix something myself first.
BTW, what is your major gripe with your phone? Battery life? SOT? Standby? Performance? What is bugging you so much?
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Honestly, I dont know. Only way to find out is to try. But once again, I don't think Service Centre people will do any special software flash that you cannot do with a factory reset at home. If I was you, i'd not give my phone to a stranger unless I couldn't manage or fix something myself first.
BTW, what is your major gripe with your phone? Battery life? SOT? Standby? Performance? What is bugging you so much?
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Sot , battery . I could barely manage 5-6 hours sot without gaming .with Aod on fhd 120hz
Using the camera makes the phone heat up alot and after using camera it throttles and even scrolling feels a bit laggy .
Changing to wqhd and rebooting ,
The ui feels less smooth , the response time reduces , apps like snapchat and instagram start stuttering .
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Sot , battery . I could barely manage 5-6 hours sot without gaming .with Aod on fhd 120hz
Using the camera makes the phone heat up alot and after using camera it throttles and even scrolling feels a bit laggy .
Changing to wqhd and rebooting ,
The ui feels less smooth , the response time reduces , apps like snapchat and instagram start stuttering .
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That doesn't sound alright. Have you done a lot (i mean a LOT) of tinkering with the OS? If so, something might have gone off the rails and causing problems. Impossible for me to say. But the phone is buttery smooth... I don't think you should accept any lagginess. Most of the heating issues are also gone after the April update, so I'm not sure what has your device spooked. Which country are you from? Can you get an easy replacement or are you stuck with your device like in India? I'm not saying your device is faulty, but if its bugging you and you can get a free replacement without losing money, get it swapped with a new one.
If that's not possible, the easiest way out will be a factory reset at home.
I'd say go for it, wipe and set it up afresh.
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That doesn't sound alright. Have you done a lot (i mean a LOT) of tinkering with the OS? If so, something might have gone off the rails and causing problems. Impossible for me to say. But the phone is buttery smooth... I don't think you should accept any lagginess. Most of the heating issues are also gone after the April update, so I'm not sure what has your device spooked. Which country are you from? Can you get an easy replacement or are you stuck with your device like in India? I'm not saying your device is faulty, but if its bugging you and you can get a free replacement without losing money, get it swapped with a new one.
If that's not possible, the easiest way out will be a factory reset at home.
I'd say go for it, wipe and set it up afresh.
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Unfortunately i am from india bro .
Bought offline ,
No replacement/return
I know if i submit in the service centre they are gonna destroy my phone ( may be sratches / mishandling or they could open the phone and destroy the waterproofing)
What i am planning is go to service centre and get the phone flashed again . ( i am least sure that it could be a bad os install on my phone )
A factory reset is what i can try at the moment .
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Unfortunately i am from india bro .
Bought offline ,
No replacement/return
I know if i submit in the service centre they are gonna destroy my phone ( may be sratches / mishandling or they could open the phone and destroy the waterproofing)
What i am planning is go to service centre and get the phone flashed again . ( i am least sure that it could be a bad os install on my phone )
A factory reset is what i can try at the moment .
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Best of luck! Do keep me posted. I really hope you get this sorted out.
This is a very expensive heartache otherwise! I can imagine what you must be going through. Spend the Sunday setting up a freshly reset phone. If you start now, you should be done by night. Damn thing has soooooo many settings to navigate.
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Best of luck! Do keep me posted. I really hope you get this sorted out.
This is a very expensive heartache otherwise! I can imagine what you must be going through. Spend the Sunday setting up a freshly reset phone. If you start now, you should be done by night. Damn thing has soooooo many settings to navigate.
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While setting up , did u install the samsung apps?
Are u signed in to samsung account?
Yes for both.
But I made sure to uncheck the Samsung Customisation Service during setup. I only ticked the boxes that were compulsory for allowing the setup to proceed.