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Nexus or Sprint

Will there be a nexus cdma subforum when it is released for sprint? Also if others are interested. I spoke with a sprint rep using the chat feature on the sprint web site. I had read on their release about the nexus that it has to be purchased through google. So I asked if we would be able to use our upgrade rebates and his response was:
"Once the pricing will be declared for this phone, we could be able to help you with upgrade rebates."

Haven't seen or heard the Nexus on Sprint. If so, they would have to redo everything into CDMA instead of GSM. As of now, I've heard of it going to Verizon and Vodafone

Yep it is coming to sprint:
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1403426&highlight=

It took about two months for the nexus to show up on att after showing up on t-mobile.
Expect the same time frame after it's available on verizon for it to show up on sprint.

Er, they already have. Verizon is CDMA. Android already supports it, and they need only swap the QSD8250 for the QSD8650 and a few GSM parts for their CDMA equivalents.
It won't be nearly as long (for technical reasons, anyway) between VZW and Sprint since they share frequencies.

if I were you and I already had sprint I'd wait for the HTC Evo 4G.
I love my N1, but being this close to the time 4G is available why not wait a couple months?

True... but if you are willing to wait, then wait for T-mobile to release HSPDA it should br faster than 4G, scheduled to come out this year. Sprint Evo is a great phone, but I think it won't get updates as fast as the nexus one, it being HTCs and not Google.
jz9833 said:
if I were you and I already had sprint I'd wait for the HTC Evo 4G.
I love my N1, but being this close to the time 4G is available why not wait a couple months?
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Incredible S U.S. T-mobile 3G?

So with HTC's disappointing line-up for the first half of 2011 I decided to take a visit to HTCs World site. I looked at the specs of the new phones and noticed that under Network the bands listed are Europe/Asia - HSPA: 900/AWS/2100 MHz. Does this mean that I could finally buy an unlocked HTC phone and have my US T-mobile 3G aswell? The Flyer has the same Network specs. Out of the 5 new phones that HTC announced the Flyer and Incredible S only have those specs. The Chacha, salsa, and wildfire S, each have the standard 900/2100mhz band for HSPA Europe/Asia.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/incredibles/specification.html
http://www.htc.com/www/product/flyer/specification.html
Can someone confirm my suspicions? If so I can't wait to see what the fall lineup has in-store. Perhaps a dual core phone. I hate the line up US carriers offer.

I belive that you need 1700/2100 Mhz for T-Mobile 3G

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I belive that you need 1700/2100 Mhz for T-Mobile 3G
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Yes 1700 but is that not AWS. If I'm not mistaken AWS is the 1700/2100 spectrum. So since AWS is stated in the specs for the tablet and phone it should work in the US on T-mobiles 3G correct? I've been waiting for htc to release phones in Europe with US 3G for T-mobile forever. I wish my TD2 had had US 3G. The power switch broke sadly and I bought a used Nexus one and T-mobile made me pay the higher rate for data. With an unlocked phone I can sneak by on the lower unlimited rate.

This is a good news for T-Mobile and Wind users as it supports AWS 3G.

Supposedly it is going to be sold by best buy in the US.. So unless that rumor was false it makes sense to have some flavor US 3G network support and TMo makes more sense (ha no pun intended) than ATT. So AWS on the specs must be true.
Unless all these little clues are an inaccurate vast coincidence.
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Supposedly it is going to be sold by best buy in the US.. So unless that rumor was false it makes sense to have some flavor US 3G network support and TMo makes more sense (ha no pun intended) than ATT. So AWS on the specs must be true.
Unless all these little clues are an inaccurate vast coincidence.
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Car Warehouse and Best Buy UK will be selling it. I haven't seen or heard anything about Best Buy US selling it in the States.

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Car Warehouse and Best Buy UK will be selling it. I haven't seen or heard anything about Best Buy US selling it in the States.
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I guess this was wrong then. Not to mention that the incredible s listing at carphone warehouse says "only at carphone warehouse" which would suggest that it is not anywhere else in the uk although they own a stake in carphone warehouse.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-incredible-s-will-be-exclusive-best-buy-and-carphone-warehouse
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No, I'm sure that I am the one who's wrong. This is what happens when you don't pay attention to details.

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No, I'm sure that I am the one who's wrong. This is what happens when you don't pay attention to details.
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The whole thing is slightly confusing. I won't believe it until I see it listed at best buy.
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I don't care who sells the phone as long as it really does work with T-mobiles AWS bands in the US. If it's true I can't wait to see the Fall lineup of phones. If anything with a dual core comes out and looks nice I will be ordering it from clove.co.uk or somewhere else it they can beat cloves price.

The ROM is set up for Verizon, plus the original Incredible was with big red so I doubt they would switch carriers with the Incredible name.

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The ROM is set up for Verizon, plus the original Incredible was with big red so I doubt they would switch carriers with the Incredible name.
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You couldn't be any mote wrong. The original is not a US phone and is GSM based. So it makes sense t-mobile could get it. T-mobile UK has it and so do other GSM carriers in the world. Go to HTC.com/www and check it out for ur self. The tech is GSM. You need to learn a bit more about world carriers and phones and ditch big red. GSM is what the world uses. Don't be surprised when Big Red starts to use sim cards.

Wind Mobile in Canada opearates on AWS/1700 Mhz/BandIV

Is this Incredible S gonna launch on T-Mobile USA?
UK retailers and mobile providers are already accepting preorders.
I'm not sure if T-Mobile USA will get this because it is already being launched elsewhere. Are they gonna launch this phone late?
Verizon already had it in the US (not S). And I don't see any leaked T-Mobile roadmaps hinting an HTC Incredible S launch.
What do you guys think?

Wish it'll be released by BestBuy in states and canada like NS.

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Is this Incredible S gonna launch on T-Mobile USA?
UK retailers and mobile providers are already accepting preorders.
I'm not sure if T-Mobile USA will get this because it is already being launched elsewhere. Are they gonna launch this phone late?
Verizon already had it in the US (not S). And I don't see any leaked T-Mobile roadmaps hinting an HTC Incredible S launch.
What do you guys think?
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If it does it will be like any other phone that hits Europe and Asia first. US carriers will get it 6-12 months later. So if it does come here it will be later on. The thing I'm concerned about is having it work with Tmo US 3G if I buy it unlocked from Europe since it has the AWS bands. I Love buying unlocked phones because some of them we never see here in the states.

HTC Touch Freak said:
If it does it will be like any other phone that hits Europe and Asia first. US carriers will get it 6-12 months later. So if it does come here it will be later on. The thing I'm concerned about is having it work with Tmo US 3G if I buy it unlocked from Europe since it has the AWS bands. I Love buying unlocked phones because some of them we never see here in the states.
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I'm sure it wont be long before we see some reviews coming in to verify its AWSness.
One thing is for sure.. I'm not going to pay 499 euros (690 USD!!) for it.. plus shipping.. I'll be waiting for it to pop up stateside for around 500 USD I would hope...

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I'm sure it wont be long before we see some reviews coming in to verify its AWSness.
One thing is for sure.. I'm not going to pay 499 euros (690 USD!!) for it.. plus shipping.. I'll be waiting for it to pop up stateside for around 500 USD I would hope...
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When it gets here the price unlocked will drop to about that. That's how long it will take for it to get here. It will be that old. Most I am willing to pa for an unlocked phone they don't sell in the states is $550. Sadly I would rather use that money for a radiator to help keep my car cool with all it's new found power.

I'm sure there will be at least two different models, a European model without AWS and a T-mobile US version with AWS. Just like the HD2. The T-mobile US one will be carrier locked too. You know I'm right.

Paten said:
I'm sure there will be at least two different models, a European model without AWS and a T-mobile US version with AWS. Just like the HD2. The T-mobile US one will be carrier locked too. You know I'm right.
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The only version that has been announced is the European/Asian one and it has AWS so this one could also be sold by T-Mobile USA.
However the question would be why bother when they already have the recently released 3.8" myTouch 4G with 4GB of storage, the same CPU and GPU, etc, etc. While the Incredible S seems to be better all round, with the exception of available storage, there hardly seems to be any point in adding such a similar phone to the T-Mobile USA line-up, especially when the myTouch 3G was made specially for them.
They will probably wait until October later this year to introduce a new variant of this phone and some dual core HTC phones.

[Q] Due for upgrade

Hey guys,
I'm set for an upgrade, I'm looking for suggestions on what to get. Should I get something now or wait little while for something good that's coming out?

I hear people chattering about the Nexus Prime and SGS II. Personally, I'm on the Evo 3D, and love it. The only problem with the new 3D's is the hboot. Can't fully get s off.

Motorola Photon!

my upgrade is in december. im gonna see if i can get sprint to give me the early ok so i can get somethin on black friday..... hopefully the 3vo for nothing.

tl;dr - I'm not upgrading anytime soon because of LoS issues on the SG2E4GT and WiMAX is on the way out.
I've been off-contract since August. I was all set to get the SG2E4GT until the LoS issues became so prevalent, and I did some research into how slow Samsung has been to issue updates/fixes for their other Android phones (at least on Sprint, anyway). This has also kind of made me a bit cautious regarding the Galaxy Nexus since it too is a Samsung device.
Granted, the above issues may become moot once CM7 is up and running on these phones, but then there's also the problem of Sprint converting their 4G network to LTE over the next 1 to 2 years. Since I live in an area with zero WiMAX coverage (Metro Detroit), I'm reluctant to get a new phone right as WiMAX is going away, especially since I'm not paying the magical $10 'premium data' fee, and CM7.1 is running like a champ on my old Hero.
sleepy

I'm in the same boat -- why buy a wimax phone (GS2) when lte is coming to Milwaukee next year? Does the photon support LTE? Maybe the Nexus will. Any other lte-ready phones from sprint?

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Any other lte-ready phones from sprint?
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I could certainly be wrong, but I don't think any of their current phones support LTE.
Also, I read this article today from phandroid.com:
If you’re a Sprint customer, you may have found yourself recently looking for new reasons to stick with the carrier after their “Season of Change” removed a lot of customer perks. As most of you have already heard, ‘Ol Yeller is getting their new LTE network set up for next year but what you may not have known is the carrier is also planning on rolling out an LTE-Advanced network for the first half of 2013, with voice over LTE (VoLTE) devices scheduled in the first quarter of that year. Sprint’s VP of network and development Iyad Tarazi spilled the beans while speaking during a breakfast meeting at the 4G World conference.
Mr. Tarazi also mentioned that 12 LTE devices are currently scheduled for 2012 with Sprint planning on covering between 250 – 277 million people with blazing fast LTE by the end of 2013. How’s that for sticking with #3?
If you’re curious about the fate of your currently equipped 4G WiMax devices, Sprint’s agreement with Clearwire means you will be covered for at least the next few years. That’s about 60 in smartphone years. With this new development are any Sprint customers going to wait it out? Or have you already been seduced by the blazing fast data of other carriers?
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So I agree...why lock in to a WiMAX phone now (unless you get great WiMAX coverage in your area) when LTE is in the pipeline?
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Article (theverge): Why the Nexus 4 does not have LTE or CDMA

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte
Pretty good article explaining why lte on a Nexus 4 doesn't make any sense for any potential whiners out there
Google wants direct control of the software on Nexus devices with no carrier intervention. That alone means Google can't sell an LTE device, as there's simply no access to LTE networks without working with carriers in one way or another: Verizon and Sprint's LTE networks still require compatibility with their 3G CDMA systems, and there's essentially no such thing as an unlocked CDMA device. AT&T's fledgling LTE network runs on different frequencies than other LTE networks around the world, so Google would have to build a custom phone for just 77 markets in the US. Doing that without AT&T's financial assistance makes little sense.
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Also it explains it pretty well why they didn't make the same mistake by going CDMA like they did on the Galaxy Nexus.
And there's precious little to suggest working with carriers is even in Google's best interests, or in the best interests of Nexus customers. The Galaxy Nexus was announced last year with a promised LTE version on Verizon, but the carrier held back releasing the phone for months to promote its own Droid RAZR instead. Google eventually grew tired of waiting and sent unlocked HSPA+ devices to reviewers. And software updates for Nexus phones sold through carriers have been problematic as well: it took the Verizon three full months to disseminate the Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update to its Galaxy Nexus, slightly longer than Sprint.
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All accurate, a good summary.
With its pricing of the Nexus 4 and lack of LTE, Google is quite clearly giving US carriers the finger. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if a CDMA/LTE version appeared for Verizon and Sprint, but LTE doesn't really matter that much if you get decent 3G/3.5G/HSPA+ whatever you want to call it (i.e., not Verizon or Sprint 3G).
Really, anything over a few Mbps is enough for me...but I know other people use their phones differently.

Why I'm glad there isn't a CDMA variant

Alright so I've been looking around on various Android forums and people seem to be very upset that there is no CDMA variant of the Nexus 4 announced so far. Coming from the Sprint/Verizon Galaxy Nexus, I am glad that they're not bothering this time around because CDMA goes against what the Nexus brand stands for, openness.
These carriers are very self-contained. You can only purchase phones to use on their network from them. Want a unlocked phone? You're out of luck BUT you can purchase the phone from their website off contract or you can go and get one from eBay or Craigslist. Because of this, the carriers have manufacturers by the balls, especially when it comes to updating phones. Want to get an update? You'll have to wait until these carriers "inspect" the update to ensure that it is not "harmful to the network" and all that PR crap they go on and on about.
Anyways, CDMA would mean that Google/LG would have to make a 4G LTE variant since these carriers only sell 4G phones now and Google doesn't seem too happy about how the CDMA variants of the GNex turned out last time. The updates were untimely to say the absolute least and the battery life was horrendous. I'm sure that the guys at Google had one hell of a time disputing against the crapware that Verizon/Sprint wanted to put on their phones so they could get a quick buck from Blockbuster and whatever other useless advertisements and applications they put on there now days.
If you want a Nexus phone, jump over to another carrier. I'm finally going over to T-Mobile and I'm getting unlimited data/text and a hundred minutes (which won't be used because I use GrooVe for voice over data/WiFi) for $30 a month. The entire move is going to cost me less than $400 and I'm sure you all have phones that you could sell to get over here. It really is the better move and the HSPA+ is amazingly fast without the battery drain.

My only option for a carrier is Verizon or sprint. At&t and T-Mobile only have gprs where my grandparents live, and I need internet for work. I'm upset there isn't a CDMA variant.
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I'm pretty excited about making the move to GSM and prepaid service. Any smartphone I've ever had was either Sprint and now Verizon. I can't even get an hour and a half of on-screen time with my Verizon gnex. It'll constantly switch from 3g to LTE and most of the time get stuck in the middle, looking for signal and draining the battery, it's horrendous.

I'm glad that there isn't a CDMA variant because CDMA is dead-end technology, and anything that brings about its demise sooner is a good thing IMO. Whatever the original technical merits were that CDMA held over GSM have pretty much become nonexistent as I understand it, and you give up the huge advantage of being able to easily switch carriers without purchasing a new phone. Anyone who's spent time outside the US and in an open GSM phone system knows how nice it is to be able to switch carriers at will.
But also Google's rationale for not including LTE makes a lot more sense with no CDMA variant. As the OP mentioned, a CDMA variant would absolutely HAVE to have LTE. Verizon's EV-DO network is still Rev. A, right? That's disgustingly slow in today's day and age, and while it makes sense that the CDMA carriers would have skipped over later revisions of EV-DO and go straight to LTE, it also means they're in an "LTE or bust" situation right now. GSM networks have a much better upgrade path, and 42mbps HSPA+ is more than fast enough for just about anything you'd want to do on a phone.
Personally I'm happy with the decision, because as a GSM user I see no need to frantically jump on the LTE bandwagon. I'd much rather take better battery life and a lower phone cost than have a transmission standard that is overkill for the vast majority of phone applications forced down my throat.

You all don't remember that GSM Nexus devices always come out first. CDMA phones will most likely come out months later, and with higher storage to generate buzz. Google knows better than to shut out ~20 million subscribers.
I'm pretty confident they are offering such low priced unlocked phones to try and get as many people into their ecosystem as possible. Ignoring CDMA users is not consistent with that, so just like before, it'll likely be 1 to 5 months before we see 32gb CDMA phones later on.

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You all don't remember that GSM Nexus devices always come out first. CDMA phones will most likely come out months later, and with higher storage to generate buzz. Google knows better than to shut out ~20 million subscribers.
I'm pretty confident they are offering such low priced unlocked phones to try and get as many people into their ecosystem as possible. Ignoring CDMA users is not consistent with that, so just like before, it'll likely be 1 to 5 months before we see 32gb CDMA phones later on.
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While I get where you're coming from, I completely disagree. Of course, I'm with a GSM carrier (and always have been), so I couldn't care less if they come out with a CDMA Nexus 4. Then again, I'm one of those people that don't believe the Galaxy Nexus offered by Verizon and Sprint was an actual Nexus device. If a phone's updates are coming from a carrier and not straight from Google...that's not a true Nexus and, frankly, you get what you deserve for thinking it is (in general terms...I'm not talking about you specifically).
I think all the reasons listed earlier are correct. I think Google got a bad taste in their mouths from having the carriers (re: Verizon and Sprint) dictate to them what they were going to do instead of the other way around. I also agree that CDMA is a dying technology and I'm also all for anything that bring that about faster. Wireless companies in the US need to get their #[email protected]% together and agree on a standard. All this GSM/CDMA/LTE crap is just confusing to consumers (not to me, but to uneducated consumers).
I firmly believe, though, that if you want a Nexus phone you need to get with a GSM carrier. Period. If by some miracle Google does release a CDMA version of the Nexus 4 later, I'll still believe you don't have a "true" Nexus phone. Only when the carriers have their hands off the updates can you actually make me believe a CDMA Nexus is a "real" Nexus.

I've been looking at the pre paid services but I have two lines since I pay for my mothers phone.
With the 1000 minute family plans it ends up making more sense for me to go that route since I'd get 2 free galaxy S2's.. One for her and I'd sell the other + my Sprint Galaxy s2 on eBay for my N4...
Very excited about moving back to T-mob after being on Sprint with **** service in my area for almost a year.

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