'Ello lads!.. So yes, I've traded my Galaxy Nexus for a Bionic(+ cash) with some fine chap. Sure the Nexus has a bit of a screen advantage but performance wise I honestly don't notice a dfference. The big thing is I'm glad the reception issues I was having with the Nexus are gone.
Anyway, that's alo for now. Cheerio!
Welcome! Update to .901 so this phone doesn't piss you. Can be a real slag without that update.
Cheers!
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'Ello lads!.. So yes, I've traded my Galaxy Nexus for a Bionic(+ cash) with some fine chap. Sure the Nexus has a bit of a screen advantage but performance wise I honestly don't notice a dfference. The big thing is I'm glad the reception issues I was having with the Nexus are gone.
Anyway, that's alo for now. Cheerio!
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I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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Welcome! Update to .901 so this phone doesn't piss you. Can be a real slag without that update.
Cheers!
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So far I've done that Zerg manual root on the phone. Can I simply just download a ROM w/ .901 integrated or do I still have to do some sort of .901 update first?
lrs421 said:
I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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well, the battery life was pretty bad on the thing and was pissed that the 'extended battery' was only 250mAh more then the stock. on top of that, unless the phone was charging in 'ac mode', it would lose charge if you were trying to use it while in 'usb mode' charging. also i had severe reception issues with it(kept going back & forth from 3g to 4g & occasionally lost signal all together). and finally, i wanted the extra cash for something.
either way though i qualify for another upgrade this march anyway... pretty sure though that i'm just going to hold off until the quad's are out.
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So far I've done that Zerg manual root on the phone. Can I simply just download a ROM w/ .901 integrated or do I still have to do some sort of .901 update first?
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If you look in one of the .901 threads you can find a link to.download the update. Flash it in bootstrap. After that you can change to any of the .901 compatible ROMs. I don't think the ROMs update the radio.
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voxigenboy said:
well, the battery life was pretty bad on the thing and was pissed that the 'extended battery' was only 250mAh more then the stock. on top of that, unless the phone was charging in 'ac mode', it would lose charge if you were trying to use it while in 'usb mode' charging. also i had severe reception issues with it(kept going back & forth from 3g to 4g & occasionally lost signal all together). and finally, i wanted the extra cash for something.
either way though i qualify for another upgrade this march anyway... pretty sure though that i'm just going to hold off until the quad's are out.
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I was just poking fun . I'm sure you had your reasons. Welcome aboard.
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lrs421 said:
I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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I would stay away from the nexus from what I have been reading. Getting some bad reviews.
I have a Tbolt and the Bionic and I like the Bionic better. The only thing the Bionic does not do is be on the phone and surf at the same time on 3G, but I never do that...
Now that I rooted the Bionic I like it even better, but just staying on the stock rom and stock radio I have no issues. Great phone...
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I would stay away from the nexus from what I have been reading. Getting some bad reviews.
I have a Tbolt and the Bionic and I like the Bionic better. The only thing the Bionic does not do is be on the phone and surf at the same time on 3G, but I never do that...
Now that I rooted the Bionic I like it even better, but just staying on the stock rom and stock radio I have no issues. Great phone...
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Yeah, in reality there is nothing wrong with my Bionic and once we get ICS I'll be content. Kudos to Moto for setting the trend, announcing the Bionic would get ICS before other manufacturers made statements about their devices.
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We will get ics. Just dont trust moto on time frames. We were supposed to have an unlocked bootloader end of last year. Its january 11 2012.
davwman said:
We will get ics. Just dont trust moto on time frames. We were supposed to have an unlocked bootloader end of last year. Its january 11 2012.
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Anyone get CWR to work on the Bionic? It is suppose to work but I can't get it to reboot into recovery?
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Anyone get CWR to work on the Bionic? It is suppose to work but I can't get it to reboot into recovery?
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yeah the how to's in the dev section aren't exactly user friendly. basically though, i was not able to get CWM to work on it's own. you have to download that "Safestrap" .apk and install it. after doing so, it will install recovery itself. once that's done, you reboot your phone and press the MENU key once prompted, then you'll go into recovery.
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yeah the how to's in the dev section aren't exactly user friendly. basically though, i was not able to get CWM to work on it's own. you have to download that "Safestrap" .apk and install it. after doing so, it will install recovery itself. once that's done, you reboot your phone and press the MENU key once prompted, then you'll go into recovery.
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Thanks I will get that a shot today.
Update... Working now. Thanks again
I may write out a few how to's with all the fixes.
I agree, out of all the phones/tabs I've rooted/ROM'd the how to's in the Bionic Dev section are a bit...lacking.
All the info is there, but it takes you 5 hours to figure it out b/c the steps, dummy guides, fixes are spread out all over the place between here and a few other forums.
Safestrap is really nice though.
got556 said:
I may write out a few how to's with all the fixes.
I agree, out of all the phones/tabs I've rooted/ROM'd the how to's in the Bionic Dev section are a bit...lacking.
All the info is there, but it takes you 5 hours to figure it out b/c the steps, dummy guides, fixes are spread out all over the place between here and a few other forums.
Safestrap is really nice though.
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Yeah, your right. I don't know exactly what safestrap is (assuming its similar to bootstrap which I use) and when I tried to research it I got confused and just decided to stick with bionic bootstrap since I can't find a reason why its needed even though everyone talks about it.
I wouldn't use rom manager, just do everything in one of the two recoveries. Here's a breakdown of the recoveries for the Bionic
Bionic Safestrap
-Allows two system partitions
-One system is non-safe system where your main stock system resides. You can make and restore backups in this partition but you cannot install custom roms.
-The other system is safe system. This is the partion that lets you install roms and what not.
-You can toggle between the two systems from within safestrap recovery. It will automatically backup the current system before switching over.
-Safestrap has a nice feature that prevents bricks. On restart if Safestrap is installed there is a boot menu that pops up. You can hit the menu button to get into recovery from there. This comes in handy if you are having a bootloop. Just pull battery, restart phone and hit menu key when safestrap animation appears.
-One downside is that webtop doesn't work in safe system and the rom may run a tad bit slower in safe system partition
Bionic Bootstrap
-This is the riskier one
-This is more like regular clockwork recovery. You boot intro recovery from the bootstrap app.
-You can make backups, install roms etc in bootstrap recovery
-If you enter a bootloop while using bootstrap recovery, your phone is pretty much bricked. Because of the encrypted bootloader there is not a way to get back into recovery if using bootstrap. You will have to use sbf/fxz from a pc computer to unbrick your phone.
*You can use bootstrap to install a custom rom as your main system, and then install safestrap after if you want. But fully know what your are doing before you do this. If you don't use webtop, I recommend safestrap recovery for everything. Here is something I wrote over at Droidforums
-I have been testing roms out in safestrap to make sure they install and load up correctly
-I then toggle back to my main system in safestrap
-I then uninstall safestrap and install bootstrap.
-Then I boot into bootstrap recovery through that app
-Make a backup in bootstrap (always have a backup of your stock unmodified system)
-Wipe data and cach
-Install the Rom that I first tested in safestrap
-After Rom loads up and your are done flashing you can install safestrap again if you want. This way you will have a rom as your safe system and you can have another rom as your non-safe system. Webtop will work with roms on your main system.
stelv said:
I wouldn't use rom manager, just do everything in one of the two recoveries. Here's a breakdown of the recoveries for the Bionic
Bionic Safestrap
-Allows two system partitions
-One system is non-safe system where your main stock system resides. You can make and restore backups in this partition but you cannot install custom roms.
-The other system is safe system. This is the partion that lets you install roms and what not.
-You can toggle between the two systems from within safestrap recovery. It will automatically backup the current system before switching over.
-Safestrap has a nice feature that prevents bricks. On restart if Safestrap is installed there is a boot menu that pops up. You can hit the menu button to get into recovery from there. This comes in handy if you are having a bootloop. Just pull battery, restart phone and hit menu key when safestrap animation appears.
-One downside is that webtop doesn't work in safe system and the rom may run a tad bit slower in safe system partition
Bionic Bootstrap
-This is the riskier one
-This is more like regular clockwork recovery. You boot intro recovery from the bootstrap app.
-You can make backups, install roms etc in bootstrap recovery
-If you enter a bootloop while using bootstrap recovery, your phone is pretty much bricked. Because of the encrypted bootloader there is not a way to get back into recovery if using bootstrap. You will have to use sbf/fxz from a pc computer to unbrick your phone.
*You can use bootstrap to install a custom rom as your main system, and then install safestrap after if you want. But fully know what your are doing before you do this. If you don't use webtop, I recommend safestrap recovery for everything. Here is something I wrote over at Droidforums
-I have been testing roms out in safestrap to make sure they install and load up correctly
-I then toggle back to my main system in safestrap
-I then uninstall safestrap and install bootstrap.
-Then I boot into bootstrap recovery through that app
-Make a backup in bootstrap (always have a backup of your stock unmodified system)
-Wipe data and cach
-Install the Rom that I first tested in safestrap
-After Rom loads up and your are done flashing you can install safestrap again if you want. This way you will have a rom as your safe system and you can have another rom as your non-safe system. Webtop will work with roms on your main system.
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Thanks I too was a little fuzzy on Safestrap. Now I know.
No problem. Here is a good link on safestrap http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8794-bionic-safestrap-bootstrap-recovery-12142011/page__fromsearch__1
kendive said:
I would stay away from the nexus from what I have been reading. Getting some bad reviews.
I have a Tbolt and the Bionic and I like the Bionic better. The only thing the Bionic does not do is be on the phone and surf at the same time on 3G, but I never do that...
Now that I rooted the Bionic I like it even better, but just staying on the stock rom and stock radio I have no issues. Great phone...
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It's not possible to talk and surf at the same time on Verizon's 3g network. I don't believe that is a feature most people need or would even use, but it sounds good on the commercials.
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lrs421 said:
I am a bionic owner and love my phone, with that said you need to have your head examined I've been trying to get a nexus for weeks, lol. Just don't wanna pay $600 for it. If I could trade my bionic plus $200 or so I would be all over it!!!!!
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The Nexus isn't worth it. I've tested it out and wasn't too impressed. One big thing I didn't like about it was that it only had 3 buttons compared to the normal 4 (home, back, search, menu). That might not be as big of deal with newer users who aren't as used to certain things, but I've been with Android for almost 3 years so the typical 4 buttons is a must as its something I became used to.
As far or the specs, its nothing to get excited about when they have much better coming out this spring and summer.
As far as ice cream sandwich, the bionic is getting it and will have Google's help with getting it set up for our phones.
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I got rom manager and im trying to do a nan droid back up and when i select back up current rom my phone just restarts? Anyone got any ideas?
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don't think no our phone supports from manager technically its supposed to take you to cwm and you navqgate to backup/restore so I think you have to do that in safe strap or what ever its called
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Oh, i wish i can back up my current state of my phone. Is there a way i can get more onfo on this?
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you are rooted with boot strap installed correct??
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rooted no bootstrap
You have to install either Bootstrap or Safestrap to make nandroid backups with this phone.
which is better safestrap or bootstrap is there a difference?
Bootstrap is simpler but has less features. Personally it's the one I use, as it seems to do the job fine when running stock as I do. If you plan to install a lot of different ROMs, such as the ICS alpha, then you might be better off using Safestrap. It basically creates two system images, one stock and the other a custom ROM. The idea is that if you go into a bootloop with one system, you can switch to the other one instead of being stuck. There are some drawbacks -- I have heard it uses some RAM and slightly degrades performance. Also, Webtop works on one system but not the other.
I have always used bootstrap and never had any issues.
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Bootstrap is simpler but has less features. Personally it's the one I use, as it seems to do the job fine when running stock as I do. If you plan to install a lot of different ROMs, such as the ICS alpha, then you might be better off using Safestrap. It basically creates two system images, one stock and the other a custom ROM. The idea is that if you go into a bootloop with one system, you can switch to the other one instead of being stuck. There are some drawbacks -- I have heard it uses some RAM and slightly degrades performance. Also, Webtop works on one system but not the other.
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I have never used safestrap I am sure it works great. But since I am new to bionic if you bootloop can't you pull battery boot up in android recovery and wipe data and cache? Works everytime on droidx2.
If you want to play with other roms while having a main rom that you use daily, go with safe strap. If your going to stick to one rom, either one will work. You can flash and backup with each one.
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Do I really need to install bootstrap or safestrap on my bionic if I don't plan on putting custom Rom in the near future? I only really want root for tibu and wireless tether.
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Do I really need to install bootstrap or safestrap on my bionic if I don't plan on putting custom Rom in the near future? I only really want root for tibu and wireless tether.
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No dude you dont need it if your not flashing roms. I'm sorry for people's stupidity on this forum. That's Is The Reason People Don't Take This Forum Seriously.
Personally I'd keep it just for the fact that you can do Nandroid backups. Full image of everything. So god forbid something does get badly hosed. You can fully restore back to whatever day you made it. Even if you aren't flashing ROMs and such. The back up ability alone is worth it. That is all I used it for with my Droid X
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Yea I remember having it on the droidX I had a while back. But cant I make a nandroid with cwm? I've been on the thunderbolt for a while now so I have to get used to Motorola again.
You need to have installed and flashed the bootstrap before you can flash and use official cWM from the clockworkmod app. Otherwise it can't bootstrap around the locked bootloader
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I think I understand how safestrap works (it installs some kind of hijack to boot /preinstall instead of booting /system) but I have been reading a number of users who have bricked their phone...
I basically have the SafeStrap install screen up, but am hesitant to do this...
Just a few questions before I take the plunge
1) Why are so many users having problems with safesrap? I download the Droid3 version 1.08 for use on my Bell Motorola XT860 4G
2) What exactly does safestrap do in the boot loading sequence? If this is not public knowledge (and might be worked out "against" please, no harm, I'm just wondering, so if I could get an idea as how the hijack works, either in the thread or PM that would help greatly)
3) If you restore the original system and disable the hijack, will that really bring me back to complete original stock? What if they patch the boot partition as they did last time?
Thanks for all your help guys! I know a lot of you have been using custom roms, I really want to load up ICS on here, and it's almost ready for prime-time so I just want to be prepared!
First off, I have an XT862 not the XT860. The hijack is a 2nd init hijack. Safestrap does this hijack itself as opposed to with bootstrap where whatever ROM you flash has to do the hijack. Safestrap also as you mentioned uses /preinstall to store /system of the ROM you flash. This means that nothing other than safestrap itself touches your stock /system. This allows safestrap to protect itself so you can always get back to recovery even if there is a bad flash it can't overwrite the hijack and recovery so you can try again.
I also don't remember seeing much of problems with safestrap itself other than a partition size problem. I think I remember seeing that some update took care of that problem. I have seen people having more problems with ROMs on the XT860 than other versions of the phone.
danifunker said:
I think I understand how safestrap works (it installs some kind of hijack to boot /preinstall instead of booting /system) but I have been reading a number of users who have bricked their phone...
I basically have the SafeStrap install screen up, but am hesitant to do this...
Just a few questions before I take the plunge
1) Why are so many users having problems with safesrap? I download the Droid3 version 1.08 for use on my Bell Motorola XT860 4G
2) What exactly does safestrap do in the boot loading sequence? If this is not public knowledge (and might be worked out "against" please, no harm, I'm just wondering, so if I could get an idea as how the hijack works, either in the thread or PM that would help greatly)
3) If you restore the original system and disable the hijack, will that really bring me back to complete original stock? What if they patch the boot partition as they did last time?
Thanks for all your help guys! I know a lot of you have been using custom roms, I really want to load up ICS on here, and it's almost ready for prime-time so I just want to be prepared!
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First off, the most common problem I have seen people have with safestrap is not understanding what it does and even more common is not knowing how to use it, basically a lot of user error. The previous poster summed up pretty well how it works. Finally, uninstalling safestrap will NOT bring you back to original stock, it will remove itself and the secondary ROM it allowed you to install. Since you have to be rooted to even install it, if you uninstall it you will still be rooted, not stock.
Just so you are clear, you can have whatever ROM you want on your phone BEFORE installing Safestrap and this will become the Safe system by default. You will no longer be able to change this ROM as long as Safestrap is installed. Instead, it allows you to put another ROM, basically a dual-boot, in addition to the original rom you have. Now you have a Safe system and a Non safe system. The Non safe system is the only one Safestrap will allow you to change (and brick for that matter). So if/when you install a ROM that boot loops or crashes, you simply can revert back to your safe system and now your phone works again, neat huh?
AFAIK, he does have the XT860, since the XT862 is the Verizon Droid 3 (3G, not Bell Canada 4G). Also, using it on my 862, I have not been able to brick it. If flashing the experimental system fails, you can just reboot into the Safestrap menu and flash something new. I don't see why it wouldn't work on the 860, as all it does it modify the booting. Any issues would most likely be caused by a ROM flashing issue, not safestrap.
I took the plunge this afternoon... Installed SafeStrap and CM9 nightly on my device... Not sure if everything is working just yet, but will be doing testing throughout the day
No problems were reported with the installation or instructions, so that's great. Thanks a lot!
I'm using a XT860 (Brazilian Vivo, but I'm not sure if it's 4G - LTE - compatible, I know that it works with 3.5G).
I have Safestrap 3.0.5 installed and I'm using all the 4 slots (MavROM, Minimoto, CM9 e CM10). All of then runs well (with their particular issues), none of them caused any trouble on the phone.
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I'm using a XT860 (Brazilian Vivo, but I'm not sure if it's 4G - LTE - compatible, I know that it works with 3.5G).
I have Safestrap 3.0.5 installed and I'm using all the 4 slots (MavROM, Minimoto, CM9 e CM10). All of then runs well (with their particular issues), none of them caused any trouble on the phone.
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Same here. I'm using it on a Brazilian TIM, no problems at all. I have two active slots( Stock, Gummy 0.90) and two for testing.
It is in fact the best recovery that I've used, so far.
Thiago AmP said:
I'm using a XT860 (Brazilian Vivo, but I'm not sure if it's 4G - LTE - compatible, I know that it works with 3.5G).
I have Safestrap 3.0.5 installed and I'm using all the 4 slots (MavROM, Minimoto, CM9 e CM10). All of then runs well (with their particular issues), none of them caused any trouble on the phone.
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None of the d3 variants are LTE capable
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None of the d3 variants are LTE capable
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Yeah, I realize that before reviewing its radio specs.
Munckster said:
Same here. I'm using it on a Brazilian TIM, no problems at all. I have two active slots( Stock, Gummy 0.90) and two for testing.
It is in fact the best recovery that I've used, so far.
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@Munckster
Actually, after trying to acess a SD Card partition with Link2SD, I lost acess to Recovery. I'm stuck on the stock ROM (root keeps on, but SafeStrap 3.05 doesn't work).
Installed Titanium Backup to keep my data safe, but it isn't working too. I'm going to reinstall it later.
I'm afraid that I'll have to uninstall all my root apps, unroot the phone and do all the process again...
I'm very newbie at linux and Android and I'm doing all that by reading (a lot). I'd apreciate if someone could tell how to deal with this problem.
Thiago AmP said:
Yeah, I realize that before reviewing its radio specs.
@Munckster
Actually, after trying to acess a SD Card partition with Link2SD, I lost acess to Recovery. I'm stuck on the stock ROM (root keeps on, but SafeStrap 3.05 doesn't work).
Installed Titanium Backup to keep my data safe, but it isn't working too. I'm going to reinstall it later.
I'm afraid that I'll have to uninstall all my root apps, unroot the phone and do all the process again...
I'm very newbie at linux and Android and I'm doing all that by reading (a lot). I'd apreciate if someone could tell how to deal with this problem.
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Try shutting the phone off and powering up while holding m, then using vol down select bp tools from the list that appears, and confirm with vol up.
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Try shutting the phone off and powering up while holding m, then using vol down select bp tools from the list that appears, and confirm with vol up.
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I've already tried it, but without success... I'll keep searching what to do in this situation...
Thiago AmP said:
Actually, after trying to acess a SD Card partition with Link2SD, I lost acess to Recovery. I'm stuck on the stock ROM (root keeps on, but SafeStrap 3.05 doesn't work).
Installed Titanium Backup to keep my data safe, but it isn't working too. I'm going to reinstall it later.
I'm afraid that I'll have to uninstall all my root apps, unroot the phone and do all the process again...
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Unrooting seems like overkill. If you are "stuck" on stock, I would just start the Safestrap app. Click the button to uninstall recovery and restart the phone. Then open Safestrap again, click the button to install recovery, and restart the phone. Hopefully the Safestrap menu will show and you can then activate recovery.
So long as you do not erase anything on the internal storage, your slots should still be there.
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Unrooting seems like overkill. If you are "stuck" on stock, I would just start the Safestrap app. Click the button to uninstall recovery and restart the phone. Then open Safestrap again, click the button to install recovery, and restart the phone. Hopefully the Safestrap menu will show and you can then activate recovery.
So long as you do not erase anything on the internal storage, your slots should still be there.
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I've tried it several times before I came with the idea of unroot my phone and redo the process. Here is my dicoveries http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2082292
I know that it's obvious, but I guess that just few people knew that it would work.
SafeStrap problems
Odd problem, I can't get the menu button to work. In order to get back to my "safe" rom I have to start safestrap,and select uninstall recovery.
Then reboot, and it will bring up my "Safe" rom. If I then go back to SafeStrap, and re-install the recovery, and reboot, it will again bring up SafeStrap, but if I hit Menu, it doesnt' bring up any options it again boots up my non-safe ROM (minimoto 1.6)
Anyone have any ideas...I guess I can try to remove the safestrap directory on the sdcard after I uninstall the recover, and then try to reinstall the App, and try all over again?
A friend of mine has Droid 3 on Verizon. I'm want to know what I need to do to flash a recovery on it so I can backup and flash roms on it. I'm not sure if I need a custom bootloader for it aswell. I found this thread with recovery as a sticky but it doesn't have much explanations in it. I also see you guys don't have a sticky with a guide anywhere besides just the one click root.
Can anyone point me in a direction?
Thank you.
On my phone so I can't give links. But you need safestrap. It's a bootstrap that will essentially allow your phone to boot into recovery even with the locked bootloader.
Safestrap is unique because it does not touch your primary system. You can back it up, but you flash everything to a "safe" system. It is ideal because no matter what you doing to your safe system, your primary will always be there. Even if you flash something that you know will brick your phone, all that will happen is that you won't be able to boot into your safe system. You can still load up your custom recovery and switch back to your primary system where you can download a different ROM.
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On my phone so I can't give links. But you need safestrap. It's a bootstrap that will essentially allow your phone to boot into recovery even with the locked bootloader.
Safestrap is unique because it does not touch your primary system. You can back it up, but you flash everything to a "safe" system. It is ideal because no matter what you doing to your safe system, your primary will always be there. Even if you flash something that you know will brick your phone, all that will happen is that you won't be able to boot into your safe system. You can still load up your custom recovery and switch back to your primary system where you can download a different ROM.
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So how do I install this safe strap and where do I get it. I assume this will also let me flash a custom recovery like CWM?
Everything you need to know on installing safestrap can be found here
There are 2 versions. One is the standard version in the link, the other is a "tweaked" version found on the forums here. While the tweaked version has a few extra features, from what I've read, it can be a bit unstable. Use the version provided in the link.
Yeah what he said ^^^ then once u have the safestrap you just download the rom u want and flash it and your good to go
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Ok. So far I can understand that the Moto Droid 3 has a locked boot loader which can not be unlocked. Correct?
I can understand using a bootstrap instead. Can someone explain what happens to your first system when the safe mode is turned on? Does it move the contents into the available internal SD card? What kind of memory is emmc? Also, I'm not clear on what is hijack. Is that just the initial hack from the apk on 1st system? I assume one can install it again in the 2nd system and mess things up.
obsanity said:
Ok. So far I can understand that the Moto Droid 3 has a locked boot loader which can not be unlocked. Correct?
I can understand using a bootstrap instead. Can someone explain what happens to your first system when the safe mode is turned on? Does it move the contents into the available internal SD card? What kind of memory is emmc? Also, I'm not clear on what is hijack. Is that just the initial hack from the apk on 1st system? I assume one can install it again in the 2nd system and mess things up.
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The 1st system gets renamed to systemorig and is otherwise left untouched. /reinstall gets renamed to /system and becomes your safe mode system. Im not 100% on hijack but as I understand it, it quite literally hijacks the boot sequence at a certain point by killing all the processes and inserting its own in order to give us a custom recovery
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OK. So why not just backup the original system and overwrite it? If the partition gets renamed why is there a need to keep it? Wouldn't deleting it give more room for roms? Is there even enough room for 2 partitions on the emmc?
The whole idea was that you keep your original system intact so you can still receive OTA updates. I've never had an issue with not having enough room for roms. They are only about 150 MB.
Many of us actually use this to dual boot. The common way is to have a stable rom on your /systemorig and test new roms on safe system.
There is a plain old bootstrap that installs regular old cwr and just overwrites /system. Everything should be compatible with it. I think I have a copy of it in my dropbox
The main reason for using safestrap(in my view) is that when you're messing around in safemode its next to impossible to brick your phone so bad you can't access recovery, since when it first boots it still boots from /system, and then redirects to the safe system. You should never have to fastboot flash your phone
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So can you dual boot? And how do you boot into your orig 1st system? Don't you have to toggle the safe mode each time? Also, how much total room is there on emmc on D3?
try here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436380
The internal SD memory is roughly 11GB. The phone stores which system was last booted and then you can backup and restore between them though the SafeStrap pre-boot recovery. Once you try it, it's really simple and effective. I was hesitant to leave old faithful bootstrap, but now that I'm on safestrap, I wonder why I ever hesitated.
So the 1st system is simply copied to SD storage when the safe mode is turned on?
Also, do I download ver 1.09 which says Droid 4? I have a Droid 3.
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So the 1st system is simply copied to SD storage when the safe mode is turned on?
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It creates a backup of /system and /data when you switch between safe and non safe. And I think also /cache. However as I mentioned before it renames /system to systemorig.
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It runs off the /preinstall partition IIRC. You should/can DL the original from Hash's blog or get Rick's tweaked version from the Dev section.
I downloaded and installed ver 1.0.8 because the other 1.0.9 said Droid 4.
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I downloaded and installed ver 1.0.8 because the other 1.0.9 said Droid 4.
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I do believe that's the correct version. I'm running a tweaked version that includes a bash console and a redesigned ui but its kinda buggy atm so for now I would recommend the one you've got
One other thing I should point out, as this is a common mistake, the first time you switch to safe mode you HAVE to flash a rom. Because you're now running off the /preinstall, there is no safe mode rom yet. A lot of ppl switch to safe then boot up straight away and all you get is a blank screen cause you're booting...well nothing
Also I'm not sure if you have a rom in mind already but mavrom is the only gb rom that still gets updates. Everyone else is deving ics, however all ics roms are beta and have more or less the same bugs/missing features
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I do believe that's the correct version. I'm running a tweaked version that includes a bash console and a redesigned ui but its kinda buggy atm so for now I would recommend the one you've got
One other thing I should point out, as this is a common mistake, the first time you switch to safe mode you HAVE to flash a rom. Because you're now running off the /preinstall, there is no safe mode rom yet. A lot of ppl switch to safe then boot up straight away and all you get is a blank screen cause you're booting...well nothing
Also I'm not sure if you have a rom in mind already but mavrom is the only gb rom that still gets updates. Everyone else is deving ics, however all ics roms are beta and have more or less the same bugs/missing features
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I just did it on his phone. All worked OK. Thanks for all your help. I'm used to the nexus devices which are much easier and straightforward. I installed nightly CM9 from hashcode. I'm not sure what works yet. Is there a better version of CM9 besides that one? He really wants ICS and CM.
All of the ICS roms are currently limited in the same way: no HW codecs, bluetooth on but not connected = loss of audio, etc. There's a thread here in the general section that compares all of the ICS roms. I would advise looking through it and deciding which one suits you best.
EDIT: to answer your question, the may 7 build of Hashcode's CM9 is a good build. They just brought back the theme engine so that opens up possibilities.
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This is the leaked Bionic .904 update.
http://droidrepo.info/the-repository/summary/10-bionic-stock-files/56-bionic-904-update-leaked
Thanks I've been looking for this! All the other links are no good
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This is the leaked Bionic .904 update.
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Yes thanks for the link and btw...Eclipse just released they Bionic Build 04 using Verizon's 904 update - h t t p://eclipserom.com/vforum/showthread.php?1612-ROM-Eclipse-Bionic-Build-04-4-30-12 and is working Excellent performance wise and battery life is now well above 10 hours without needing a charge or booster shot I was so used too providing on ICS Gummy. The Eclipse developer just released his latest update 04/30/12 in the last day and it now has even more polish especially for those who don't appreciate Motorola Blur.
Give it a shot and check it out! Sorli...
I download the file from the link provided but it still say .902?
Also would I be able to use RSD Lite to flash it into my Bionic??
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I download the file from the link provided but it still say .902?
Also would I be able to use RSD Lite to flash it into my Bionic??
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It says that. Ignore it. It is .904 mine said the same.
and no. you have to be on stock .902 bloated, odexed, root is okay, but you will lose it. If not on stock .902 you have to FXZ back, then go in to stock recovery (holding both volume buttons and powering up, and pressing down once and up to open it) then one the fancy logo appears press both volume buttons, the apply update. Navigate to it and select it. Then once its done you'll be .904 stock, unrooted. So run the motofail root script. Then enjoy.
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The file will always say the version number you "should" be coming from, not updating to
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It says that. Ignore it. It is .904 mine said the same.
and no. you have to be on stock .902 bloated, odexed, root is okay, but you will lose it. If not on stock .902 you have to FXZ back, then go in to stock recovery (holding both volume buttons and powering up, and pressing down once and up to open it) then one the fancy logo appears press both volume buttons, the apply update. Navigate to it and select it. Then once its done you'll be .904 stock, unrooted. So run the motofail root script. Then enjoy.
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I have a question. I don't own a bionic, but my brother in law has one (great phone), I rooted it with motofail, installed safestrap. He is on.902 currently. once I had him ripped, I immediately switched to the safe side. It made a backup before it switched to safe. I put eclipse 2.2 on it. Now. I am waiting for 904 to go official. When I switch back to unsafe, will I be back on stock right away? or do I have to do a restore of that backup once I am back on unsafe side?
Now, once back to stock, rooted 902, can he get an ota? I would think he could. I know in my thunderbolt, if you are stock and rooted, you can get an ota. Sorry for all the questions, just want to be sure what to do. Moto is much different than htc is in this respect. Thanks, Daniel
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I have a question. I don't own a bionic, but my brother in law has one (great phone), I rooted it with motofail, installed safestrap. He is on.902 currently. once I had him ripped, I immediately switched to the safe side. It made a backup before it switched to safe. I put eclipse 2.2 on it. Now. I am waiting for 904 to go official. When I switch back to unsafe, will I be back on stock right away? or do I have to do a restore of that backup once I am back on unsafe side?
Now, once back to stock, rooted 902, can he get an ota? I would think he could. I know in my thunderbolt, if you are stock and rooted, you can get an ota. Sorry for all the questions, just want to be sure what to do. Moto is much different than htc is in this respect. Thanks, Daniel
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I applied 904 to my unsafe system just by switching over to it and following the guide. You will likely have to reflash eclipse after backing up your unsafe system again. I didn't though and switched back to safe system and checked phone info and it has the updated radios
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I applied 904 to my unsafe system just by switching over to it and following the guide. You will likely have to reflash eclipse after backing up your unsafe system again. I didn't though and switched back to safe system and checked phone info and it has the updated radios
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Will he be able to getthe 904 ota once I switch it back to unsafe?
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Will he be able to getthe 904 ota once I switch it back to unsafe?
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Once the official release hits probably. First you would revert back to your "unsafe" system through the safestrap boot menu which should still be running stock 902 (or whatever version he has) Once that is loaded you reboot and it will boot your stock system.
Once your up and running in the stock system the phone will update its apps(Since the stock system has not been run since you rooted/rom'd I'm assuming). I recommend being on WiFi if possible unless he has unlimited data. After that completes you will need to Hit the button to the left of the home button (the 4 blocks with one colored in) > Settings > About Phone > System Updates.
It will look for the update and download it OTA if available. It will wipe out your root so you will need to motofail again after that and probably reinstall SafeStrap(I had to)
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Once the official release hits probably. First you would revert back to your "unsafe" system through the safestrap boot menu which should still be running stock 902 (or whatever version he has) Once that is loaded you reboot and it will boot your stock system.
Once your up and running in the stock system the phone will update its apps(Since the stock system has not been run since you rooted/rom'd I'm assuming). I recommend being on WiFi if possible unless he has unlimited data. After that completes you will need to Hit the button to the left of the home button (the 4 blocks with one colored in) > Settings > About Phone > System Updates.
It will look for the update and download it OTA if available. It will wipe out your root so you will need to motofail again after that and probably reinstall SafeStrap(I had to)
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Forgot to mention. You may or may not have to reflash Eclipse to your safe system after the update. I personally didn't and the radios are reflecting the update but the system is still showing as 902 update since im running off of my original 902 eclipse flash.
Anybody got any info on the OTA I have been notified of soak but havent herd anything for about a week and a half? I wonder if it will even be 904 Moto will probably change the # just because they could.
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Anybody got any info on the OTA I have been notified of soak but havent herd anything for about a week and a half? I wonder if it will even be 904 Moto will probably change the # just because they could.
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Stuck waiting, just like ICS
It's pretty pathetic that they can't even get minor updates out the door. It doesn't bode well for us getting ICS before this phone outlives its usefulness. Sorry to be so cynical, but, VZW and updates has just been horrible. (And not just for the Bionic....right, anyone waiting for an official ICS build for a 4G Xoom? All 2 of you that haven't rooted it and gone to a ROM...) Uh, anyway, let's hope they get this update rolled out soon so we can resume the wait for ICS.
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It's pretty pathetic that they can't even get minor updates out the door. It doesn't bode well for us getting ICS before this phone outlives its usefulness. Sorry to be so cynical, but, VZW and updates has just been horrible. (And not just for the Bionic....right, anyone waiting for an official ICS build for a 4G Xoom? All 2 of you that haven't rooted it and gone to a ROM...) Uh, anyway, let's hope they get this update rolled out soon so we can resume the wait for ICS.
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I don't want to seem like an A-hole. But before the phone out lives its usefulness? Almost any smart phone on the market will be useful for years. It's only the american greed wanting the newest baddest phones. How many people actually wait the full 2 years before upgrading? I know I don't. Cell phones have came a long ways, and my wifes DROID OG is still being used as a back up phone being 3 years old. So use a different argument. We will get it, just be patient
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I don't want to seem like an A-hole. But before the phone out lives its usefulness? Almost any smart phone on the market will be useful for years. It's only the american greed wanting the newest baddest phones. How many people actually wait the full 2 years before upgrading? I know I don't. Cell phones have came a long ways, and my wifes DROID OG is still being used as a back up phone being 3 years old. So use a different argument. We will get it, just be patient
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I guess you completely missed my point. What I don't want to see happen, and is very POSSIBLE, is that we get ICS after Jelly Bean is released. You're going to tell me that would make you happy? If I had waited a couple more months from when I bought the Bionic in the first place, i.e. having the patience you're telling me I need now, I could have simply bought a phone that CAME with ICS rather than having to wait months for it...
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I guess you completely missed my point. What I don't want to see happen, and is very POSSIBLE, is that we get ICS after Jelly Bean is released. You're going to tell me that would make you happy? If I had waited a couple more months from when I bought the Bionic in the first place, i.e. having the patience you're telling me I need now, I could have simply bought a phone that CAME with ICS rather than having to wait months for it...
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It wouldnt make me happy, nor would it upset me. I buy my phones according to the hardware and the specs that I think will fit me the best. The operating system is just an added bonus. Of course I want ICS, and then Jelly Beam, but I'm not going to complain about the speed I receive the update. Some are faster, some are slower. Just the way of life. Id rather wait.an extra 4 months for a build that isn't super glitchy, as to have it as soon as it's released and it not function properly. Just my opion
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