ok so im new to the bionic scene but not new to android, i've had an OG droid since the day the came out and it finally gave out after 2 years of wear and tear
my question is what exactly is all this talk about staying on the "OTA upgrade path"?? and whats the importance of doing so?
ive tried searching but no answers, just people talking about it
you dont have to stay on the upgrade path. you just need to be able to get back on the upgrade path when new updates are being pushed to your phone from verizon. if you install a custom rom or freeze any system apps you are not on the upgrade path anymore. in order to recieve otas your phone has to be stock. being rooted is ok but be carfull as some otas break root. just keep an eye out on these forums and people will post about new otas.
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Hey guys, so I have an unrooted & locked stock froyo N1 on FRF91. After I bought my phone, I manually updated to FRF85B, and then manually to FRF91 (too impatient to wait for froyo!). I tried searching the forums, but came up empty handed, so here are my questions!
I was just wondering if this would affect me receiving OTAs in the future and updating applications. For example, when the new Facebook and Twitter version came out I didn't get a notification and I couldn't update it through Marketplace, so I had to download them and install them through Marketplace to get the newest version. However, I can automatically update applications such as Google Maps and Google Voice. Does me manually upgrading have to do anything with this?
Also, I saw a new version named "FRF91-UP" floating around the forums, was this an OTA upgrade? I know it contains the new Gmail application as well as the new Facebook and Twitter app as well, and if it was a OTA upgrade, I never got it . Is there something I have to do to start getting these OTAs if it is an OTA? Or is this a leaked update?
Sorry for so many questions, I'm still learning how to use android to its full capacity ! And thanks in advance to whoever can help me out!!
From what i read, YES, your full stock, long as you got Stock recovery you will receive OTA's from whoever sends them, some Updates require to do a manual update.. i did the manual update too and all my apps get auto update, and i get notifications too, jus like everything else you can try do a recovery(stock) wipe/factory reset.. this might help in some way..
a buddy did this 2 days ago and he got some features that where there b4, he waited for the OTA's,then again i dont think he was really looking.. Lol
and i never heard of any FRF91-UP or seen anything around.. if anything i would have heard from my friend that has waited and all
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I just googled FRF91-UP this is for rooted phones.. if anything the pulled the update gmail and whatever else and ported it to whatever phone
I have just received a replacement D3 and it had shipped with the 5.7.906 update. I was wondering if there was a way to root it and if ROMs that use the old BP tools and things like that, that prevent from downgrading. If so, can I install a ROM that uses the 5.7.906 system apps will install correctly and work. Currently I have not found or seen anyone with the fast boot /.XML/RSD lite files to restore it if anything goes wrong. I'm just worried that I won't be able to get back to stock if something goes wrong in the install process. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Intriguing!
Did youo receive your phone as a replacement from Verizon? If it's brand new and it runs on 5.7.906, I surmise that the next official OTA would certainly be 5.7.906. This will absolutely make some folks relaxed since they're worrying that 5.7.906 might not be the right update path. In this case, if anything goes wrong, just head over the thread about OTA Leak and flash it onto your device.
About ROM, unless the developer specifies in their thread, your phone should be ok with any.
Good luck!
You are most likely the luckest droid 3 user youhave the lastest ota update already
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This is my first Android phone i have owned for a few years now and i made the mistake of doing the OTA update to 4.3. I would love to root this phone because that was a big reason why i got it. I hated waiting for a jailbreak for my iPhone and i want a phone that i have control over. is it possible to "downgrade" from the OTA update to the leaked update? or even downgrade back to 4.2.2? I have looked around but cant find anything to helpful for the galaxy s4 active. also reading around multiple people say they end up having issues after downgrading or the KNOX counter going from 0x0 to 0x1, therefore voiding warranty.
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This is my first Android phone i have owned for a few years now and i made the mistake of doing the OTA update to 4.3. I would love to root this phone because that was a big reason why i got it. I hated waiting for a jailbreak for my iPhone and i want a phone that i have control over. is it possible to "downgrade" from the OTA update to the leaked update? or even downgrade back to 4.2.2? I have looked around but cant find anything to helpful for the galaxy s4 active. also reading around multiple people say they end up having issues after downgrading or the KNOX counter going from 0x0 to 0x1, therefore voiding warranty.
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While the OTA upgraded Android to 4.3 it also included a new bootloader. The new bootloader prohibits "downgrading" to a firmware version below ML2. Currently there is no way to downgrade with the locked bootloader. However there is a new thread just started by @TransformixS4 that is looking at injecting root into the ML2 Odin files, so it may be possible in the future to root ML2. There are a couple threads in the regular S4 forums exploring ways to exploit the bootloader and flash custom kernels.
Back to your situation: you're completely stuck. Next time you see there is an update or OTA check XDA before you install it. There are a couple threads that explain the pros and cons of any updates. There is also a thread summarizing all the AT&T i537 firmwares which will be updated in the future and you may find useful.
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While the OTA upgraded Android to 4.3 it also included a new bootloader. The new bootloader prohibits "downgrading" to a firmware version below ML2. Currently there is no way to downgrade with the locked bootloader. However there is a new thread just started by @TransformixS4 that is looking at injecting root into the ML2 Odin files, so it may be possible in the future to root ML2. There are a couple threads in the regular S4 forums exploring ways to exploit the bootloader and flash custom kernels.
Back to your situation: you're completely stuck. Next time you see there is an update or OTA check XDA before you install it. There are a couple threads that explain the pros and cons of any updates. There is also a thread summarizing all the AT&T i537 firmwares which will be updated in the future and you may find useful.
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My issue was I kept telling it not to upgrade, and then it went ahead and did it anyway! On 4G, not wifi even. I was so mad when I got home and started reading that all the stuff I downloaded to root it *that day* would no longer work.
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My issue was I kept telling it not to upgrade, and then it went ahead and did it anyway! On 4G, not wifi even. I was so mad when I got home and started reading that all the stuff I downloaded to root it *that day* would no longer work.
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You're only allowed to delay the update 4 or 5 times before it installed automatically. You can prevent it from upgrading in the future by freezing some system apps with Titanium Backup. I don't remember which ones right now, but if you search it's pretty easy to find.
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My issue was I kept telling it not to upgrade, and then it went ahead and did it anyway! On 4G, not wifi even. I was so mad when I got home and started reading that all the stuff I downloaded to root it *that day* would no longer work.
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Just checking, you do have the i537 not i9295, right?
*I'm getting this out of the way first.* I know this may be a very stupid question to some of you, but I've looked on multiple threads and posts about this topic and have gotten mixed results and answers, so I thought this would be the best site to get a definitive answer.
I just got my Nexus 6 through AT&T today and wanted to root it to get rid of the very annoying AT&T splash screen you get when you turn the phone on. I know how to root and unlock the bootloader, but when I do that will I still be able to get OTA updates from Google without any fancy flashing or things like that? I'm sticking with stock Android and I'm not installing any custom ROMs. I know on a lot of other phones you can get OTA updates when rooted, but you have to install them manually. If it's too much of a hassle I just won't root it.
Thanks in advance,
Robert (Mokedoke)
It's better explained in other threads. But no, you can't take OTA. If you unlock only I believe you'll be fine. But as soon as you modify system files it won't work for OTA. Lollipop checks for these changes and the install will fail out.
You won't be able to get the OTA, but you can manually flash your phone to get the latest ROM and with out loosing data. Search the forum there directions to show you how.
OK, I've read so much that things are just getting jumbled in my brain now. There's so much information in these threads that I don't know where to start. The world of Android apparently moves too fast for me to keep up. I've got a Verizon LG G2 that is stuck on 4.4.2, software version 24A. Right after I took the OTA KK upgrade I rooted with IORoot25. I don't think I've done anything other than root, however I have somehow can create the mobile hot spot without permissions. Not sure if there was an .apk that was put on when I rooted or how I did it because it was over a year ago.
Ever since I rooted, my phone tries to push OTA updates but they are always unsuccessful. Every morning I have to hit "Install Later" becasue it tried over night and failed. Besides this being a bit annoying, I haven't been concerned becasue the only OTAs since I got 4.4.2 was supposedly some small patch that didn't really do much (from what I read). But, the other day it notified me that it wanted to push Lollipop and needless to say, I want it.
My problem: I don't know what the hell to do! Besides rooting, I'm pretty sure the only thing I've done is download Flashify and backup my stock recovery. Flashify doesn't show that I have a custom recovery, nor do I ever remember installing one. Just whatever came with the IORoot25. Oh, and it looks like I Quarantined LGSetupWizard using App Quarentine. Pretty sure that's it. So, where do I go from here?? I'm wanting to move to Lollipop, then possibly de-bloat it, and would like a custom recovery so that I can create nandroid backups and possibly start trying out other custom ROMs.
I had an OG Droid for years and would flash ROMs frequently until I upgraded to a RAZR MAXX. Once I got the MAXX, and now the LG, all I've really done is root and hack the wifi, so I'm REALLY out of the loop now! Everything seems so complicated becasue there's just too much info out there. Could somebody please guide me in the right direction to make this as smooth as possible??
Thanks for reading and helping a NooB out. Ugh...can't believe I have to start calling myself that again!!
You could 'freeze' the update so it doesn't pop up every morning. IF you want to update- you can unroot it and then take the update and re-root it and fix the hotspot thing. I'm in the same boat, I'm about to do the same myself.
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You could 'freeze' the update so it doesn't pop up every morning. IF you want to update- you can unroot it and then take the update and re-root it and fix the hotspot thing. I'm in the same boat, I'm about to do the same myself.
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Thanks for the response. Hoe do I "freeze" the update? If I do decide to take the update and re-root, and especially if I start loading custom ROMs, I know I'm going to want to do this in the future. I've been getting theses OTA update notifications everyday for months now!!
Also, what's the easiest way to unroot?
AS long as you are running stock I believe you can accept the OTA without unrooting: I haven't done it yet as I haven't had a few free hours, but I'm going to try it tonight.
there are plenty of apps that allow you to freeze apps- titanium Backup Pro is one that comes to mind.