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Home made external battery pack

I have the ambition to build a home made external battery pack for my HD2 . I'm not a electrical engineer, my knowledge on this is very basic. But, if I start to think, wouldn't it be just as easy as mounting 3 or 4 AA batteries in series, because USB is 5V? But then is the is the amperage enough?
Please give me some thoughts!

http://www.boxwave.com/products/batteryadapter/batteryadapterforminisync.htm
http://www.boxwave.com/products/batteryadapter/index.htm
I have the first one, but modded it so that the USB port is directly attached to the case (like the second one).
Haven't failed me yet; however it won't charge an iPod due to its unique USB circuitry

Yup, 4 AA rechargeable batteries would do it, I wouldn't try alkaline ones as that would give a good 6V.

Alright thanks after all. I think I'm not going to make it myself, because taking the risk of blowing my HD2 is one step too far now .

the biggest problem with external packs vs AC adaptor is that
1) most AA battery packs outputs to HD2 @ around 100ma reason being the voltage is too low.
2) i have tried that sanyo 5000ma USB battery pack which does around 400ma, it charges faster but it's actual power output is around 4v
the key is the higher the voltage, the faster it charges.
I have seen most 4AA battery packs are conected as 2x serial, 2x parrallel, which means if you are using 2500mah batteries, it's only [email protected]
http://www.boxwave.com/products/batteryadapter/batteryadapterforminisync.htm
this device is connected as such as i have it also.
I tried using sanyo eneloops, hd2 recharges @ 140ma
i tried 2800mah powerex, HD2 charges @ 110ma
i tried diposalble lithium, hd2 charges @ 350ma (measured at 3.3v )
4AA all connected in serial would be the most ideal. but it only stores very little power. 1.3v x4=5.2v but if your battery is 2500mah, then it's only [email protected]
the higher the voltage the faster it charges.
I am actually thinking of building a 8AA battery, to make it a [email protected] but 8AA batts aint light. but am sure it will charge the phone as fast as AC adaptor.
AC adaptor does around 5v -/+ 0.3v 850ma
I am thinking out making my own battery pack also. one that does 5.2v @ 2000ma so that it can charge the battery as fast as AC adaptor.
but the problem is li-ion chemistry dont really allow high discharge unless it's A123 batteries.
2nd is that nimh batts are capable of high discharge but they dont really store alot of power in terms of weight to power ratio.
nimh states 1.2v but is 1.3v at full charged. highest i have seen from my batts are 1.35v
li-ion states it's 3.7v but at full charge it's 4.1v, highest i have seen from my batts are 4.25v
the key is building a circuitry that ups the voltage to 5v and acts as a voltage stabilizer aka mosfet and capacitor. but P=IV and considering the power loss from voltage conversion.
sigh.... why cant anyone build a extended battery the size of iphone's external battery slot-in. i dont mind if the phone is thicker. but rather than a hump in the middle of the phone, they can always make the battery the size of the phone. kind of like battery+case type.
the thing about battery ratings are,
eg, rechargeable batteries states 1.2v, that is actually the MINIMAL voltage.
same goes for akaline. 1.5v @ minimal.
li-ion 3.7v MINIMAL.
lithium 1.6V minimal , i have one batt at measures as high as 1.77v !
all devices have a wide range input. for reasons
1) AC adaptor rates @ 5v but it need tolerance cuz it fluctrates from 4.6-5.4v
2) batteries start high, ends low, but voltage curve is very stable.

There are more than enough commercial, regulated packs either for AA batteries or with integrated li-ion batteries, for many budgets, to lose time making one yourself IMO.

Thanks for your story .
Please keep me posted if you are going to try for yourself!
purezerg said:
the biggest problem with external packs vs AC adaptor is that
1) most AA battery packs outputs to HD2 @ around 100ma reason being the voltage is too low.
2) i have tried that sanyo 5000ma USB battery pack which does around 400ma, it charges faster but it's actual power output is around 4v
the key is the higher the voltage, the faster it charges.
I have seen most 4AA battery packs are conected as 2x serial, 2x parrallel, which means if you are using 2500mah batteries, it's only [email protected]
http://www.boxwave.com/products/batteryadapter/batteryadapterforminisync.htm
this device is connected as such as i have it also.
I tried using sanyo eneloops, hd2 recharges @ 140ma
i tried 2800mah powerex, HD2 charges @ 110ma
i tried diposalble lithium, hd2 charges @ 350ma (measured at 3.3v )
4AA all connected in serial would be the most ideal. but it only stores very little power. 1.3v x4=5.2v but if your battery is 2500mah, then it's only [email protected]
the higher the voltage the faster it charges.
I am actually thinking of building a 8AA battery, to make it a [email protected] but 8AA batts aint light. but am sure it will charge the phone as fast as AC adaptor.
AC adaptor does around 5v -/+ 0.3v 850ma
I am thinking out making my own battery pack also. one that does 5.2v @ 2000ma so that it can charge the battery as fast as AC adaptor.
but the problem is li-ion chemistry dont really allow high discharge unless it's A123 batteries.
2nd is that nimh batts are capable of high discharge but they dont really store alot of power in terms of weight to power ratio.
nimh states 1.2v but is 1.3v at full charged. highest i have seen from my batts are 1.35v
li-ion states it's 3.7v but at full charge it's 4.1v, highest i have seen from my batts are 4.25v
the key is building a circuitry that ups the voltage to 5v and acts as a voltage stabilizer aka mosfet and capacitor. but P=IV and considering the power loss from voltage conversion.
sigh.... why cant anyone build a extended battery the size of iphone's external battery slot-in. i dont mind if the phone is thicker. but rather than a hump in the middle of the phone, they can always make the battery the size of the phone. kind of like battery+case type.
the thing about battery ratings are,
eg, rechargeable batteries states 1.2v, that is actually the MINIMAL voltage.
same goes for akaline. 1.5v @ minimal.
li-ion 3.7v MINIMAL.
lithium 1.6V minimal , i have one batt at measures as high as 1.77v !
all devices have a wide range input. for reasons
1) AC adaptor rates @ 5v but it need tolerance cuz it fluctrates from 4.6-5.4v
2) batteries start high, ends low, but voltage curve is very stable.
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It's not only a matter of saving time, it's just nice to make your own. It gives pleasure . And some excitement for the risk of blowing an expensive phone .
kilrah said:
There are more than enough commercial, regulated packs either for AA batteries or with integrated li-ion batteries, for many budgets, to lose time making one yourself IMO.
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GeitjeG said:
It's not only a matter of saving time, it's just nice to make your own. It gives pleasure . And some excitement for the risk of blowing an expensive phone .
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If youre into making it yourself,
there's this site:
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/
there are detailed instructions and design schematics
+ the parts list.
It would be more complex than using a simple 4 AA battery case connected to a usb plug, but considering that without a voltage regulator wou would be limited to rechargable batteries (since 4 regular AAs would give too high voltage), and considering saving the weight and size of 2 more AAs . . .
Anyway -
give it a look.
(PS - I found this site some time ago, I do not own it, and do not have any connection to it)

Som30ne said:
If youre into making it yourself,
there's this site:
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/
there are detailed instructions and design schematics
+ the parts list.
It would be more complex than using a simple 4 AA battery case connected to a usb plug, but considering that without a voltage regulator wou would be limited to rechargable batteries (since 4 regular AAs would give too high voltage), and considering saving the weight and size of 2 more AAs . . .
Anyway -
give it a look.
(PS - I found this site some time ago, I do not own it, and do not have any connection to it)
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I'm using 4NiMh rechargeables giving 2800mAh in a clear AA case with USB soldered onto the case terminals with a flying lead and its fine.

"Turns out some devices don't like being charged with a battery pack, usually devices that require special drivers to charge. "
I just cross checked with my electrical enginner friend
he said that different devices hvae different tolerance.
eg, some devices only accept 4.95-5.05v
there is a circuit in all USB devices to stablise the voltage. to suppress/reduce if it's too high, but nothing if it's too low.

purezerg said:
"Turns out some devices don't like being charged with a battery pack, usually devices that require special drivers to charge. "
I just cross checked with my electrical enginner friend
he said that different devices hvae different tolerance.
eg, some devices only accept 4.95-5.05v
there is a circuit in all USB devices to stablise the voltage. to suppress/reduce if it's too high, but nothing if it's too low.
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I heard no such thing.
I did see a courious behaviour in some devices,
that needed some voltage on one of the data pins as well in order to start charging.
Connecting these devices to a power supply that fed the power wires only, and didnt put anything on any of the data wires did not charge the devices.

hi mates
why dont you just use 10 recharg.batteries and the circuitry of the original HTC HD2 car charger ? it works like butter&honey for me : )

Right guys, thanks for the input.
After I think it's not worth the risk to build a pack completely myself.
The 3 best options that sound easy and safe to me are:
- Using the car charger circuitry with 10 eek rechargable battteries.
- Buying a cheap one on internet
- Building one using a tried tutorial

GeitjeG said:
Right guys, thanks for the input.
After I think it's not worth the risk to build a pack completely myself.
The 3 best options that sound easy and safe to me are:
- Using the car charger circuitry with 10 eek rechargable battteries.
- Buying a cheap one on internet
- Building one using a tried tutorial
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Choice #1 is obivously undesirable.
Choice #2: Internet ones usually don't have voltage and current protection. For example, the boxwave one I linked to is just a simple charge circuit with no built-in resistors and such.
Choice #3: I would suggest using Mintyboost: http://www.instructables.com/id/MintyBoost!---Small-battery-powered-USB-charger/
purezerg said:
...4AA all connected in serial would be the most ideal. but it only stores very little power. 1.3v x4=5.2v but if your battery is 2500mah, then it's only [email protected]
the higher the voltage the faster it charges. ....
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AFAIK, the charging speed of the device is a function of current, not voltage. A source that outputs at a maximum of 500mA will charge a device twice as slow as a source that outputs at a maximum of 1A, if it is assumed that the device can take in charge at a current of 1A

This tutorial looks really nice and seems well thought out...!
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felixdd said:
Choice #3: I would suggest using Mintyboost: http://www.instructables.com/id/MintyBoost!---Small-battery-powered-USB-charger/
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Just a question regarding charger

I just wanna ask if is it just OK to use a SAMSUNG CHAMP DUOS charger on a NOTE? Same with using a NOKIA E72 MICRO USB CABLE for PC CONNECTIVITY on a NOTE? Because when I tried it both are working fine. I am just worried that my NOTE will get damaged. I prefer DUOS' charger because it's longer same with the NOKIA E72 MICRO USB CABLE.
Thanks a lot!

Whatever charger you are make sure it should nor exceed the specification recommended by the manufacturer. For galaxy note we can use 1000 mah 5V rated output of any brand. I think we can go upto 1200 mah but this is completely at your own risk. Beyond this specifications physical damages may occur depending the exceed of limitations.
I am using HTC's charger of same specifications.
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I been using Samsung DUOS charger for couple of months. So far ok. Although, I am curious about those charger with 2Amp output. Supposingly charged faster but so sure whether will cause damaged to the Note.

It depends on the type of your charger.
The amperage only says how much electricity the charger is able to produce. If it's a fairly new charger, it'll give only as much as the device connected to it will take - and your phone won't take more than it can handle.
Any charger with usb output and proper voltage will work, unless it's amperage is below the minimum required by the phone.

The KERNEL controls the charging current.
If you are using the stock kernel, the Note only gets max. 1000mA (AC-Charging) independent of the used charger.
Charging with a 1200mA-Charger (used a Nokia) wouldn't change the charging time due to the limitation.
As long as the charger obeys the USB-specifications, you shouldn't hurt your Note no matter of USB or AC.
Regards

battery charging takes three things:
a) a charging source (your USB or car "charger")
b) a charge controller (inside the device)
c) a battery
* A fixed voltage charging source cannot push current into a device, it has a current capability.
* A battery will only accept the current that it desires to charge to its full state.
* The terminal voltage of a battery for full charge is determined by its chemistry.
* Control of charging profile and current limiting is done by a charge controller...
The microUSB connections are rated at 1A max, the charge controller will limit the charge current to this...hence the comment by Thor, and there is no downside to plugging in a charging source that has a 2A capability...just dont assume you are getting 2A out of it
safilo said:
I been using Samsung DUOS charger for couple of months. So far ok. Although, I am curious about those charger with 2Amp output. Supposingly charged faster but so sure whether will cause damaged to the Note.
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Am Confused..you guys pointing that whatever the amperage is supplied to our device, it consume (charge rate per hour) only what it has been designed?????
If so why am I getting faster charge time when I use my car charger??? My car charger rating is 1250mah..if I employ my car charger my phone gets full charge in less than 2 hrs from single digit battery % left!!! How is this happening??
Upto my knowledge 1 amp of current will take 1hr to charge 1 amp rating battery. Here our device is 2.5amp so it takes 2.5 hrs for full charge by 1amp supplied current. If amperage rating increased duration will be reduced. Normally kernels controls overcharging...but does it controls amperage rating?? I don't think so.
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thor2001 said:
Charging with a 1200mA-Charger (used a Nokia) wouldn't change the charging time due to the limitation.
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Then why am I getting faster charge with a car charger??
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I think you will find that the car charger is not of such as table voltage as the mains supply. Generally car voltages can vary from about 13 Volts to 15 Volts (with the engine running). I am not sure that the car charger regulates this very well (I have seen the same with other devices). If so, it may well be providing more than 5 Volts.
In this case, that is the only way you could possibly damage the battery. I do not believe the Note itself would be damaged. I also do not think it would be noticeable over a short time, but only over a long time.

that is not how charging works...
a) charge acceptance in a battery is non-linear
b) amps*time is not equal to stored charge Ahr.. that would assume 100% efficiency.. and such is not the case. (that would assume zero internal resistance and so a battery would not get even warm if it was 100% efficient at converting incoming charge current to stored charge).
c) your car charger may or may not have a higher current capability than a desk charger.. my samsung charger charges at 750mA max.. my high output charger charges at 925mA max so one charger charges faster than another...
d) If by some lack or variation in calibration you are constantly able to charge at higher currents than the contacts are rated for, expect issues with the microUSB contacts over time..
There is a good reason why every manufacturer specifies and only warrants their devices to be used with their companion chargers.
You certainly dont need to take my word for any of this, the web is there for you to do your own research.
priyanv said:
Am Confused..you guys pointing that whatever the amperage is supplied to our device, it consume (charge rate per hour) only what it has been designed?????
If so why am I getting faster charge time when I use my car charger??? My car charger rating is 1250mah..if I employ my car charger my phone gets full charge in less than 2 hrs from single digit battery % left!!! How is this happening??
Upto my knowledge 1 amp of current will take 1hr to charge 1 amp rating battery. Here our device is 2.5amp so it takes 2.5 hrs for full charge by 1amp supplied current. If amperage rating increased duration will be reduced. Normally kernels controls overcharging...but does it controls amperage rating?? I don't think so.
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jeromepearce said:
If so, it may well be providing more than 5 Volts.
In this case, that is the only way you could possibly damage the battery.
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Regarding voltage I checked with a multimeter (a good professional one) it shows around 4.937- 4.982 V. And yes I know that this type of charging would affect battery.. But it's less expensive than the device so I didn't care.
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Mystic38 said:
that is not how charging works...
a) charge acceptance in a battery is non-linear
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Thanks for re calling my studies at school..now I remember I learnt this year's back..
But still I need further more clarification..
I wonder when I use my device hardly battery doesn't get hot at all.. Only the above portion were the camera rest get hot so is this means efficiency of battery is good and that heat us produced because of processor and other functioning parts? Whereas my older device's battery gets heated when I use heavy. Did I Get right?
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Charger AMP question.

Hi everyone.
I recently got the Xperia Z and noticed the original charger packs a 1500mAh speed (which got me confused because I thought AMP referred to charging speed), but anyhow. I also bought a power bank (external backup battery) and the thing has 2 ports, 5V 1AMP and another 5V 2.1AMP. So I was wondering if the Z can take the 2.1AMP speed without damaging the battery. What do you guys think?
Thanks.

You won't harm it instantly no. Over time, yes.
The battery lives better if you charge it slowly, I charge mine with 500mA when I go to bed. I'd use the 2ma if you were really rushed.
My Stock charger is 1800mA btw. (Dock)

The phone will automatically limit the charging current (amperage), so the battery won't be charged too fast even if you use a 2A charger. I do not know at what amperage the XZ limits the current, but I suppose it's somewhere around the 1500mA of the standard charger.
On the other hand, charging with very low currents may also damage the battery. I read somewhere that prolonged use of a charger with less capacity than around 0.5c (c=the capacity of the battery; 2330mA) might be bad for the battery. Therefore it isn't recommended to only use the USB port of your computer (500mA).
So, for repeated use over long periods of time, a charger with a capacity of over 1165mA (0.5c) is recommended.

Well I don't know what to believe anymore :x

You can safely charge with almost any trusted-brand MicroUSB charger. As long as it's not broken or a cheap chinese knock-off or anything like that. It will output only as much as the phone will accept.
EDIT: 2.1AMP (as you state it) is 2100mA (milliamperes). That's it's current output. It does not refer to "speed" per se, but a battery will charge faster with a higher output charger. A 1000mAh battery will charge from 0 to 100% in one hour if you use a 1000mA charger. Or in half an hour with a 2000mA charger. That's the theory.
In reality, phones and batteries will have safety circuits that limit the charging current so that the battery won't get damaged. It simply will not charge faster than what's safe. If, say, our XZ is limited at 1500mA, then it won't let in more than 1500mA. No matter if the charger is rated at 1500mA or 2000mA. The phone will, however, accept less than 1500mA, but when the current sinks below a certain limit, the phone won't charge at all. That lower limit might be somewhere around 400mA. If your computer's USB port gives out considerably less than 500mA (which is the norm), then there might be something wrong with the port and the phone won't accept it.
For comparison, the Samsung Galaxy S II won't charge at any higher than 700mA. No matter if you connect it to a 700mA or a 2000mA charger, it will only take 700mA and that's it. The stock SGSII wall charger is 750mA.
The XZ, having a bigger battery, will charge at higher than that. I'm guessing 1400-1500mA because the stock charger is 1500mA.

Don MC said:
You can safely charge with almost any MicroUSB charger. As long as it's not broken or anything.
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Awesome then, thanks a lot for your help

Let's face it. It's always best to go with the original charger. If you use a non standard charger the best practise is to use one that has a similar amperage. That said, my Power Bank case puts out 1amp via the dock pins, so... And it's made for the Xperia.
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Ride it like you downhill it.

Fast charge & USB

Hi everyone, I'm looking for more info about the fast charge function of the Note 4: I can read on the charger that it either provides 5 on 9V. Does this mean that I can supply 9V on the USB port to fast charge my note 4 ? Does anyone know how the charger detects wheher it it should supply 5 or 9V?

botid said:
Hi everyone, I'm looking for more info about the fast charge function of the Note 4: I can read on the charger that it either provides 5 on 9V. Does this mean that I can supply 9V on the USB port to fast charge my note 4 ? Does anyone know how the charger detects wheher it it should supply 5 or 9V?
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Yes, it means that that charger will deliver power at 9 V (at 1.67 A) to the phone.
As for how it decides which voltage/current to use, it'll be as a function of the battery's charge level, temperature, and probably some other factors, but that's getting into some very specific settings for the phone/charger system by that point.

Dan1909 said:
Yes, it means that that charger will deliver power at 9 V (at 1.67 A) to the phone.
As for how it decides which voltage/current to use, it'll be as a function of the battery's charge level, temperature, and probably some other factors, but that's getting into some very specific settings for the phone/charger system by that point.
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thanks for the quick reply! I've got a couple of Dc Converters (buck) and lipo batteries (11.1V) and was wondering how the phone signals the charger it can accept 9V and if I can use my DC step down to feed the phone with9V...
I guess I will have to try

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thanks for the quick reply! I've got a couple of Dc Converters (buck) and lipo batteries (11.1V) and was wondering how the phone signals the charger it can accept 9V and if I can use my DC step down to feed the phone with9V...
I guess I will have to try
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I guess it requires original charger for that function, probably with kernel modification you can disable that only 9v OEM charger use for QC

Hello guys ! Do you think this fast charging function is alright for the battery ? as far as i know high current may damage the battery .

liberfarb said:
Hello guys ! Do you think this fast charging function is alright for the battery ? as far as i know high current may damage the battery .
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I agree that it might be damaging to the battery (but obviously not extremely damaging). Why else would there be the option to switch off fast charging? I've switched mine off anyway because I have no use for it as my phone charges overnight and makes no difference how quickly it gets to 100%.

ozaghloul said:
I agree that it might be damaging to the battery (but obviously not extremely damaging). Why else would there be the option to switch off fast charging? I've switched mine off anyway because I have no use for it as my phone charges overnight and makes no difference how quickly it gets to 100%.
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Thank you for the quick replay mate , I have switched this feature off as well for the same reason I charge my smartphone during the night

ozaghloul said:
I agree that it might be damaging to the battery (but obviously not extremely damaging). Why else would there be the option to switch off fast charging? I've switched mine off anyway because I have no use for it as my phone charges overnight and makes no difference how quickly it gets to 100%.
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I personally thought the option to disable Fast Charging was Samsungs' way of reminding us, or letting the uninformed know, that it can do it.

The generally accepted rule amongst radio control hobbyists is that provided the battery is well made, it's not the current that'll kill a battery - it's overcharging it (over 4.2V per cell on a LiPo). Provided that the charging circuit is good (and I have no doubt it is of a high quality) we shouldn't see any degradation in battery life when used with the fast charge process.
Others may chime in with more info, but that's how I understand it.

SquidgyB said:
The generally accepted rule amongst radio control hobbyists is that provided the battery is well made, it's not the current that'll kill a battery - it's overcharging it (over 4.2V per cell on a LiPo). Provided that the charging circuit is good (and I have no doubt it is of a high quality) we shouldn't see any degradation in battery life when used with the fast charge process.
Others may chime in with more info, but that's how I understand it.
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l believe the fast charge is safe for the battery as it charges it at 1C (=1hr charge) which is actually not so fast.
Here is my tip: I have an old charger to charge overnight and use the mote 4 charger only for fast charging during the day (I leave it in my bag). I'm actually lookingfor a way to make a fast charging battery bank.
So here is my question again: has anyone tried supplying 9V to the phone ?

best device in charging
its charging up the whole battery in about an hour, i really like that and the battery gives me a full day

So far right now i can talk for about an hour and play games for about an hour and leave it on overnight and all day and still have 82% left. I'm super impressed!

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So far right now i can talk for about an hour and play games for about an hour and leave it on overnight and all day and still have 82% left. I'm super impressed!
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YOAH!!! Thats insane!

I know that the amperage on the charger is huge in its speed.
I used many custom Roms and kernels in the past on other phones with fast charge. I used several chargers and always charged much quicker with higher amperage outputs. Some were as low as 300 MA to as high as 1.2A. This is why the amperage is so high on this phones charger. The voltage is needed to push the charge quicker. Good luck finding high A charger at 9v.
My 1.2A charger i use as backup is much faster then the 500/700ma ones I have but they are all 5v and can't compete with fast charge.
Sent from my *ROOTED* Note 4 SM-N910W8

I'm also looking for a power bank that would be able to charge at
- 5V 2A,
- 5.5V (Galaxy Tab S)
- 9V (Note 4).
- with 2x18650
- able to charge itself fast too;
- charge-through (charging a device while changing itself).
i now have this ENB model, but it does not deliver 2A to Tab S (and charges at 5V not 5.5).
And it charges itself with 1A even from 2A-capable power supply.

Hi all,
I notice something that the note 4 does not charge fast after I installed S-View cover (original one), although an indication appeared that it is using the fast charging function.
I guessed it assume that the cover is open and charge slower. However, if I removed the S-View it charge noticeably faster.
Do you think this a bug in firmware ??
Thank you,

The so-called USB fast chargers query the device to be charged. Devices capable of fast charging at 9V DC have additional circuitry in their USB ports that the charger can detect. If the charger doesn't detect the circuitry, it falls back to 5V DC mode, like any other USB charger. Assuming the fast charger is functioning correctly, it should not over-charge an older phone or tablet that doesn't support fast charging; it will simply take as long as the original "dumb" USB charger did.

Is 2.5 mAh Chrager is Good For LG G2?

Hello! I m using a generic 2.5 mAh 5.0v Charger is it going to hurt my Battery or Mobile OR not????

You can use any micro usb charger, kernel will limit the current.

i'm using "generic" (connectIT) dual usb 2.1/3.1A charger without problem...
btw edit the thread name - charger is spelled wrong (just to help other people with searching in the future)

from the first day on my purchases using g2, more than a year.

It's common sense that higher current = more heat = faster li-ion/lipo degeneration. If you occasionally need a 2+mAh charge, it won't really hurt your battery too much. However, for everyday charging, stick with ~1mah in order to preserve your battery. I personally use an 1mah(5w) iphone charger because it's got the cleanest output out of all the readily available chargers. In my car I have a 2.1mah charger in case I need a quick top up.
Fyi, the phone will only draw a max of ~2mah regardless of what charger you use.

stan54 said:
It's common sense that higher current = more heat = faster li-ion/lipo degeneration. If you occasionally need a 2+mAh charge, it won't really hurt your battery too much. However, for everyday charging, stick with ~1mah in order to preserve your battery. I personally use an 1mah(5w) iphone charger because it's got the cleanest output out of all the readily available chargers. In my car I have a 2.1mah charger in case I need a quick top up.
Fyi, the phone will only draw a max of ~2mah regardless of what charger you use.
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But as stated above kernal will limit the current???

yes the kernel will limit the charging current its ok to stick to any 5v DC charger

touqeer.tx said:
But as stated above kernal will limit the current???
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Yes, the phone will only draw as much current as it's designed to. You could hook it up to a 50a charger if you wanted and it would still draw less than the 2a limit regardless. The only thing that's important is the voltage which happens to be 5v on nearly all modern phones.

stan54 said:
It's common sense that higher current = more heat = faster li-ion/lipo degeneration. If you occasionally need a 2+mAh charge, it won't really hurt your battery too much. However, for everyday charging, stick with ~1mah in order to preserve your battery. I personally use an 1mah(5w) iphone charger because it's got the cleanest output out of all the readily available chargers. In my car I have a 2.1mah charger in case I need a quick top up.
Fyi, the phone will only draw a max of ~2mah regardless of what charger you use.
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Hard to believe a word from you considering you can't even get the current unit right. It's amp aka A. Not mAh, which is both wrong in unit and scale (that's milliamp * hour, that's for capacity).
A typical USB BC compliant charger can supply up to 5V 1.5A, of course there are 5V 2/2.1A chargers around.
The charger only limits the maximum power a device can draw, it has nothing to do with the actual charging process if the device can't draw more than said maximum.
As for you your other baseless claims, typical Li-ion based batteries can at least charge at 1C, that is 1000mA=1A (of course this is actual charging current, which is approximately 1.2x the supplied current on a 5V charger) for a 1000mAh battery, 2A for 2000mAh battery and so forth. There's NO such thing as occasional "2+mAh" is safe. 1C is always safe and that actual number is tied to your battery capacity (5V2.5A would be perfectly safe for a 3000mAh/3.8V battery even if the phone actually took that current).

levizx said:
Hard to believe...
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This is what happens when people can't even read right the charger label.

Val D. said:
This is what happens when people can't even read right the charger label.
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LoL That's Right