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Unless I'm mistaken, there now is only one Dev out there that has stuck by Captivate code. As someone who places a high value on the Audience voice chip on the AT&T devices, I am very interested to see if more devs will look at this newly released source and make something of it, either new or port their existing top-notch work. I've tried, and liked, many of the I9000-based ROMs, but I keep coming back to the Cappy-based ones due to the voice quality.
So Devs... any interest? I'm sure that I'm not alone from a user perspective.
I would like to see a kernal based off the released source that also has the voodoo sound added to it. I am sure there is a lot that can be done and it will take some time.
I was thinking of flashing to something new, but with the source available, I think it's time to be patient. Can't wait for a semi-up to date ROM with full captivate compatibility!
this belongs in Q&A section
I believe whole heartedly that the ROMS the DEVs are putting out are fantastic and do everything I want and need in a ROM.
OTHER then the audiance chip support. It would be cool to have in the roms as an ability but not necessarily required.
See sig below - this post doesnt belong here. *facepalm* The devs will do what they do, when they decide they wanna do it - noobs coming in here constantly asking for sh*t only irritates them and pushes them away from bringing us the good stuff....
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I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
Devs still read the Q&A - how about reading the forum rules and abiding.... this is un-needed clutter in the Dev section
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I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
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Regardless, if you feel the need to post about this topic in this section, there is already a thread about it. Post your question in there. No need for another thread.
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See sig below - this post doesnt belong here. *facepalm* The devs will do what they do, when they decide they wanna do it - noobs coming in here constantly asking for sh*t only irritates them and pushes them away from bringing us the good stuff....
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Not trying to start a flamewar or anything... while I only joined last November, and my post count is indeed low, please don't assume that I'm here asking for candy. I comb these forums many times daily, and only post when I can't find the answers I'm looking for.
As for irritating the devs by asking for stuff... I've noticed that for the most part, they actually like the feedback, and want to know what the users like. I see no problem with providing input. Like I said, I posted here because the Devs come here, and not so much to the Q&A section.
Lastly (and maybe this should have been clearer in my OP), only one dev seems to be working on Captivate kernels, with the rest working on I9000 (since source has been around a long while). What with new hardware around the corner, dev interest for the Cappy might be waning. I thought it a fair question.
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I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
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No..does not make sense. If you read the forum rules it will be clear why it doesn't make sense.
Not trying to start a flame war either was just trying to redirect you and prevent further endless flaming if you continued to post in the wrong section.
Last thing I wanted was to tick people off
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
Out.
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I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
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So just coz it says "Hey devs" means it should go to the Dev section?
I thought the development section was actually for development... Apparently I was wrong
uuugh..
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Agree completely!! Dev(s) do read other forums
I have question about the source code that was just released. How do I implement it into my build enviroment?
I mean ok I extract the file. Then read the readme file. It says to overwrite the modules I want to build. Is there a general rule to what should and should not be over written. I have compiled the generic code but nothing device specific.
OMG! You DARE to post here?
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But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
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LOL. No apologies needed. This thread that you started is essentially the same as opcow's, except that he posted the news before you did. All that followed in his thread, however, was very similar to the responses in your thread.
Similar, but different - different because the hall monitors didn't flame anyone in that thread! Why not?? Because, methinks, for the most part, those in the other thread were more "senior" than thee, Mr. Dalewest. Get it? There's a pecking order here that must not be violated.
Strange, but I didn't notice any ROM devs complaining in your thread or Opcow's. I did, however, see some silliniess in the other thread, such as "Charlie Sheen throwing some pixie dust" into the new ROMs, but no cries of outrage over that. Then come some self-appointed spokespersons for the devs in your thread saying the devs this, the devs that, "Ooh, the devs are going to get upset," etc. [Sigh]
The source of KB1 dropping has been mentioned since yesterday or before in various threads here, and I didn't see any devs getting upset about it. The KB1 source dropping is certainly related to development. IMO it's perfectly fine to post it in Development. Your are not asking a general question - you are asking what the devs have in mind vis a vis development, now that KB1 has dropped.
That said, given that there was already another thread, you shouldn't have started another one. Consider your wrist slapped, ha, ha.
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But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
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no worries.
not ticked here. my original post was just to redirect you and try to help you avoid the flood of responses and/or flames that were sure to come.
Hi
Soooo I've just setup a Captivate with CM7 and find it pretty slick, but one thing that REALLY bugs me (and I wonder how it's not bugging others too) is the loss of BLN notifications. I hate having to turn on my screen just to check for a new msg/alert and BLN was great at providing a quick visual cue of something waiting on the phone. How do others deal with not having BLN...is there some other app (other then NoLED) that achieves something similar...or is 'just deal with it' the standard response to this? I see a user by the name of kang has done some custom CM7 kernels but these are all for voodoo sound AFAIK. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Jason
It would be nice to have but for obvious reasons its not high on the priority list compared to other needed fixes
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.
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Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.
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I didn't see anyone justifying a "flaw". if you flash cm7 & don't know bln is not an option at the moment, well reading must not be a strong suit.
BLN does not rank high on the priority list of either the cm7 devs or the devs making kernels. Since it is a beta and there are many compatibility issues between the nexus s and the captivate, such as no ext sd in nexus s, more important things are being worked on.
To throw in there, that cm7 has several features (many of which are much more useful than bln) in it that none of the 2.2 or 2.2.1 , roms have. The fact that they dont have the features are not "flaws". Just differences
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Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.
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Uhhh...just because I have a smart phone does t make it my sole purpose for staying in touch. Your priorities must be skewed a bit on what "I" do with "my" phone. And highlight where I was defending cm7 and its flaws? Pointing out the proper thread to post in? No. Saying the op should have read before flashing? No. Stating that I have sound notification and the lack of bln keeps me from checking my phone when I get a message? No. Hmmm...strange. Why do you defend the need for bln considering the captivate went months without it...and for the longest period No led was the best option available. Sorry for not needing an option of little importance to me.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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Woah, at no point in time did I say I was forced into flashing CM7, nor did I state that I wasn't fully aware of the lack of BLN support...I was simply opening a discussion on how others handle not having a proper LED and now not having BLN...like in your case, you just dont care, fine, that's one valid solution. Another might be to just turn up the audio notification volume very high. I was hoping for some application suggestions, like perhaps one that would do recurring audio notifications until it was acknowledged or something...you know, discussion without picking about and posturing...sorry for being so confused about the nature of this forum.
And I figured and read multiple times that BLN wasn't a core concern for the devs, but I'm sure a number of us users would like to see it...that's all...and I did give props to CM7 right off the hop in my OP, no?
Cheers to those who get it.
J
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Woah, at no point in time did I say I was forced into flashing CM7, nor did I state that I wasn't fully aware of the lack of BLN support...I was simply opening a discussion on how others handle not having a proper LED and now not having BLN...like in your case, you just dont care, fine, that's one valid solution. Another might be to just turn up the audio notification volume very high. I was hoping for some application suggestions, like perhaps one that would do recurring audio notifications until it was acknowledged or something...you know, discussion without picking about and posturing...sorry for being so confused about the nature of this forum.
And I figured and read multiple times that BLN wasn't a core concern for the devs, but I'm sure a number of us users would like to see it...that's all...and I did give props to CM7 right off the hop in my OP, no?
Cheers to those who get it.
J
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First, you didn't really need to create a new thread on a topic that has been discussed before. Second, if you need light notification get that app I mentioned in my second post (No LED). I don't use it anymore so I can't say for sure if it works with Gingerbread. It worked just fine when I was on Froyo. I am not posturing anything, just informing you about a Q&A thread that you should have posted in. I am glad you did read the thread and you had expectations of what was working and not working. If I seem like I am posturing that's ok, just helping you understand how some threads pop up when they really don't need to be. Try out No LED as I think that is the main option still available for lack of BLN.
Edit: I never said you were forced to flash CM7 as you said. I said you didn't need to flash CM7 knowing what worked and didn't work. I just don't understand starting a thread on a topic which has been known; you clearly stated you read the issues with CM7 and still flashed. It doesn't make any sense honestly. Tell me what I am missing here?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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And just because we're all playing so nice...nowhere in that link is BLN specifically mentioned.
Just saying....
Thanks
J
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First, you didn't really need to create a new thread on a topic that has been discussed before. Second, if you need light notification get that app I mentioned in my second post (No LED). I don't use it anymore so I can't say for sure if it works with Gingerbread. It worked just fine when I was on Froyo. I am not posturing anything, just informing you about a Q&A thread that you should have posted in. I am glad you did read the thread and you had expectations of what was working and not working. If I seem like I am posturing that's ok, just helping you understand how some threads pop up when they really don't need to be. Try out No LED as I think that is the main option still available for lack of BLN.
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Yes, I would have loved to post in the Q&A thread, but due to new user restrictions, I was not able to and thus I posted in this, the Q&A forum.
I believe I mentioned specifically against NoLED as I've tried it as one possible solution and didn't really like it...but I didn't say it wasn't valid by any means and again, thanks for a suggestion.
Thanks.
J
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And just because we're all playing so nice...nowhere in that link is BLN specifically mentioned.
Just saying....
Thanks
J
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You will learn eventually. What do you think Q&A means? This is not the only thread that talks about CM7 IE: Dev thread. The Q&A thread is used for questions and answers. So if it isn't in that thread because you finally searched, maybe you would have asked about BLN and options as a replacement. I gave you a link to where this thread and question should have been asked! Got it yet?
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Edit: I never said you were forced to flash CM7 as you said. I said you didn't need to flash CM7 knowing what worked and didn't work. I just don't understand starting a thread on a topic which has been known; you clearly stated you read the issues with CM7 and still flashed. It doesn't make any sense honestly. Tell me what I am missing here?
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What you're missing is the fact that I wasn't bashing CM7, or complaining, but opening a discussion, with the other users of CM7 and the captivate in general, on how they handle notifications...
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You will learn eventually. What do you think Q&A means? This is not the only thread that talks about CM7 IE: Dev thread. The Q&A thread is used for questions and answers. So if it isn't in that thread because you finally searched, maybe you would have asked about BLN and options as a replacement. I gave you a link to where this thread and question should have been asked! Got it yet?
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Ok thankyou.
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What you're missing is the fact that I wasn't bashing CM7, or complaining, but opening a discussion, with the other users of CM7 and the captivate in general, on how they handle notifications...
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This is my last post in your thread. Again you put words in my mouth. I didn't say you bashed CM7 and I am not defending CM7. I am giving you the proper forum for asking your question. That is why there is a Q&A thread for CM7. No offense to you but you obviously don't understand my intent which was to inform you first that there was a better thread for asking your question. Second was to see why you flashed when it has been known that BLN was not compatible with CM7.
Yes, the Q&A thread does not mention BLN. It has been discussed in the Dev thread. By asking your question in the Q&A thread you would have posted in the proper location and still got answers. Sorry for being forum police but that is how it works with forums. Hopefully you will see I am not trying to be an ass and I get what you were wanting, and I gave you a possible solution that I personally have not tried since Froyo. (No LED). Give it a shot.
Sorry for the negative Nelly's
I think that in all the hustle and bustle to iron out technical difficulties and the like the ultimate goal is often lost. Creating an open and effective operating environment for mobile devices that benefits the user and facilitates quick and effective communication with the development team and those who use the software on a daily basis.
If you have not already found a solution, I have the same desire for BLN on Cyanogen. I found that using another Kernel that sits on top of Cyanogen provides that functionality as well as CPU overclocking. I like Le Kernel Du Jour for example and it can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982337
I hope this was helpful.
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Yes, I would have loved to post in the Q&A thread, but due to new user restrictions, I was not able to and thus I posted in this, the Q&A forum.
J
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Just as a clarification for anyone else reading this thread, there are no restrictions for posting in the Q&A subforum or in any of its stickies. This should have been in the CM7 sticky from the beginning and there's no excuse as to why it wasn't. The Development subforum is the only one with any restrictions.
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Just as a clarification for anyone else reading this thread, there are no restrictions for posting in the Q&A subforum or in any of its stickies. This should have been in the CM7 sticky from the beginning and there's no excuse as to why it wasn't. The Development subforum is the only one with any restrictions.
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Half of the spam generated on this forum is from people telling the op why they need to search more or post in a different section. Let the mods sort it out and spend your time with constructive posts.
I for one missed bln when I had cm7 but it was never a game changer for me
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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Half of the spam generated on this forum is from people telling the op why they need to search more or post in a different section. Let the mods sort it out and spend your time with constructive posts.
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A. The mods can't be everywhere all the time.
B. Educating the noobs and keeping the forum tidy is not SPAM.
C. The mods appreciate the help.
Hi everybody,
Firstly i'm not on the CM page so i don't want people who come just to say "stop asking or anything". I'm here to search a solution with everybody.
So, recently the gingerbrread rom for G2X, Atrix 4g, and a leak for O2X has been released. The A2DP is working in all of its. Isn't it possible to extract the A2DP drivers from one of those rom and to inject in the CM kernel? What's the problem? I think that the atrix, the O2Xand the G2X had a later update to gingerbread because of nvidia not LG or Motorola.
Thanks for reading and helping
Sorry for my bad english
1 - use search
2 - This has nothing to do with the version. If I build CM6 for the O2X I'll have the exact same problem.
3 - I'm getting pretty tired of hearing about how magic binary releases will fix ****, on this or any other devices. Read the brazillion existing posts about it. Until source appears, you won't get A2DP unless you use stock (straight or cooked).
@aremcee, we're many O2X and G2X owners around, eagerly hoping for the source to be released. I think it won't, but still one can wish, right? ;-)
Ordered a new car with a A2DP enabled stereo. That's why I so badly wants this in CM7. Going back to stock is just not good enough ;-)
Can't you just extract the files from the HTC Desire ROM to make it work..it has bluetooth too????????
...sarcasm
Op is only asking, no need to be rude. He doesn't want to read 7,124 replies in the CM thread, and neither would I. A simple No it can not be extracted from the GB leak and used in CM would be the answer he was looking for. If you're really that tired aremcee then simply IGNORE the post.
I dont really understand why cooked roms, gingerbread or otherwise, can use the binary A2DP app/driver, while CM7 cannot.
Do we lack the header files needed to know what functions to call in said binary?
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Op is only asking, no need to be rude. He doesn't want to read 7,124 replies in the CM thread, and neither would I. A simple No it can not be extracted from the GB leak and used in CM would be the answer he was looking for. If you're really that tired aremcee then simply IGNORE the post.
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aremcee said that you (or he) should NOT read all 7,124 replies in the CM thread, but rather just use the search button, i understand him because everybody just ask the same question every hour...
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aremcee said that you (or he) should NOT read all 7,124 replies in the CM thread, but rather just use the search button, i understand him because everybody just ask the same question every hour...
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but sometimes just using the search is not the best option because everything is out of context, thats what I meant. Although us with a little bit of technical knowledge can follow it, those that are not as technically minded might not be able to pick up the searched conversation as easy. I do agree that people should use the search MORE than they do.
those technically inexperienced shouldn't be posting QUESTIONS in the DEVELOPMENT SECTION in the very first place.
The thread title is misleading users of this forum into thinking that he has some solution to the problem.
I follow since the beginning the CM and i thought that with the recent leaks the situation will change... I don't think that somebody on this forum has already asked if with the recent leaks it were possible to make it work. Maybe You don't take the time to read my ask because i'm not a developer.
@fallout0: too funny you should be a big contributor with that kind of answer...
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I don't think that somebody on this forum has already asked if with the recent leaks it were possible to make it work
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Many have. The answer has always been no.
xpicom said:
I follow since the beginning the CM and i thought that with the recent leaks the situation will change... I don't think that somebody on this forum has already asked if with the recent leaks it were possible to make it work. Maybe You don't take the time to read my ask because i'm not a developer.
@fallout0: too funny you should be a big contributor with that kind of answer...
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Maybe the title of the topic can also be misleading and should instead be in the Q & A
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Maybe the title of the topic can also be misleading and should instead be in the Q & A
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I think moderator should delete this thread instead - it is totally misleading. A short note on aremcee's CM7 Nightly thread 1st post about the A2DP should suffice. Whoever wishes to have CM7 on this device should at least read aremcee's 1st post on that thread (if aremcee chooses to post it).
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I think moderator should delete this thread instead - it is totally misleading. A short note on aremcee's CM7 Nightly thread 1st post about the A2DP should suffice. Whoever wishes to have CM7 on this device should at least read aremcee's 1st post on that thread (if aremcee chooses to post it).
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You are right.
Haree, if you read this, could you close this thread or something, as the question has been answered and further posts aren't needed?
I dont mind if the title is changed to reflect the fact that it is a question and not a project in development. And it can even be locked since its purpose has been served. However, I dont ever agree with thread deletion. Its not a transparent method of moderation.
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I dont mind if the title is changed to reflect the fact that it is a question and not a project in development. And it can even be locked since its purpose has been served. However, I dont ever agree with thread deletion. Its not a transparent method of moderation.
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I'm not against the OP or anything.
This thread should not have started in the first place. aremcee had said one too many times and there were several not too positive posts in the nightly thread when I replied someone that A2DP question will be ignored. - exactly what aremcee said and I do agree with him to certain extend.
When it is ready, I'm sure aremcee will announce it. He is actually rather active in giving us insights on what's happening especially with regards to tegra and whats not. Not forgetting correcting us when we were wrong on some comments.
Oh...and yeah probably you are right. Lock this thread may be an alternative choice.
Totally agree with Temasek, if anyone make a thread for asking question in dev section, this will be a mess like CM7 nightlies thread in the samsung galaxy s2 dev thread ...
Last question
Okay guys,
Let me a chance to ask a little question, is one of you able to explain me why the phone bluetooth call il working well and the audio part no ?
I mean is there is two chipset one for audio and one for phone call ?
By the way, for frustating guy who are angry for my question, please just ignore it !
Regards
In a nut shell, the bit that passes the audio is missing.
Thanks for your answer, so it seems to be clearly a problem of software. I mean dev need to have the original code for the audio connexion with the chipset.
So we are all waiting Nvidia and the talent of all android dev to solve the issue...
I know it has been announced only a few hours ago and the source is not available yet. But, when Google finally releases the source code, will there ever be a ROM for the original Galaxy Tab?
I am curious because the answer to this question will help me resist the new tablet temptation
Having a hard time with HC, I doubt it with ICS....even the GB ROMs are not very polished, like Overcome causes warming up problem....
It can be short...
Maybe it will arrive sooner as we think, not with cyanogenmod, even if i want it on my tab, but with MIUI, I just read on the MIUIteam fr that MIUI have the source since they have the status of developpers with the XIAOMI, and they are already work on the Mi-one and the two nexus, so maybe the us team who develop the MIUI Rom for our tab will be able to port ISC on the galaxy tab?
I just hope that we can have ISC on our tab before Christmans it will be great!
ICS
From the news:
"Gabe Cohen from Google claims that most Gingerbread devices may have an upgrade to Android 4.0, claiming that it is theoretically compatible with any Android 2.3.x device"
I would presume (going off the little snippits of info I've gleaned) that almost ANY device will be able to run ICS in some capacity or another since it is designed to be all encompassing. (Think Ubuntu for comparison) Admittedly some older devices will struggle due to the specs but this is the same for every old device.
I could be completely WAY-OFF the mark but I believe el-goog is heading down the Canonical Road and pretty soon we will have OS's that just play well together, be it on mobile, laptop, PC, TV yadda yadda yadda......and then we'll see a small moon appear on the horizon
No wait, "That's not a moon.....It's a SPACE STATION!" cue dramatic music and suddenly everyone and their dog will be screaming "IT'S A TRAAAAAP!" "TURN THIS SHIP AROUND!" but by then we'll all be caught in the tractor beam and headed for a Schwartz-off with Dark Helmet......
Jus sayin
Developers get new devices and forget about old ones. Time's working against us...
In future, post [QUESTIONS] in your separate Q&A section.
The next thread I see in the General section, that asks a [QUESTION] will be deleted, the user will receive a Warning.
I believe there will be a rom, not before Christmas tho
At least not a stable one.
Will Samsung release ICS for Galaxy Tab ??
Do you think people will port it or wait for source code.
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The next thread I see in the General section, that asks a [QUESTION] will be deleted, the user will receive a Warning.
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How does a question not belong in general? Is the general sub forum not for General discussion. Don't mean to be rude just wondering how that does not encompass a question (heck a development thread could in theory fall under the general category), i understand that there is a specific category for q&a and trying to order the chaos; it just seems to me you can't really claim anything doesn't belong in general in order to delete and or warn a user.
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How does a question not belong in general?
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When you pose a question to which you would like an answer, if falls under the Q&A section.
Is the general sub forum not for General discussion.
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When you would like to discuss & have active engagement on a particular topic then it would fall under the General section.
Don't mean to be rude just wondering how that does not encompass a question (heck a development thread could in theory fall under the general category), i understand that there is a specific category for q&a and trying to order the chaos; it just seems to me you can't really claim anything doesn't belong in general in order to delete and or warn a user.
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Don't worry, I understand you intent, no rudeness is taken.
The development sections are for posting active development projects. I.e ROMs, APPs & MODs & to receive feedback, help, advice & even thanks.
To use this thread as an example, the OP asked.
when Google finally releases the source code, will there ever be a ROM for the original Galaxy Tab?
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That is a question, even the thread title has [QUESTION] in it. The answer to this particular question is, we honestly don't know.
IF the OP had worded it similar to this.
When Google finally release the source code, do you guys think there will ever be a ROM for the original Galaxy Tab
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This, to me is open for discussion, and not a clear cut yes or no. There is a gray (British spelling ) area as you could say the General section is full of questions.
But to clarify, If I see any threads with [Q] or [Question] in the thread title or post, in the General section, it will be deleted & the user Warned, not Infracted, just warned.
If they haven't bothered checking what section they are posting in, its highly likely they haven't bothered searching for the answer either, but that is another kettle of fish
This is all so incredibly exciting... looks like an amazing release and I really hope that I can put it on my SGT very soon!
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Don't worry, I understand you intent, no rudeness is taken.
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Andy: Thank you for being awesome - lots of admins I've worked with throughout the years would probably throw a hissy over perceived insurrection when questions of protocol are asked. Your professionalism is greatly appreciated.
I am so glad that google appears to have gone with an open model this time around - it looks like they actually worked to maximize compatibility with the wide range of GB running devices and made everything pretty portable. of course we'll know more about that in a week or so when google drops the sources on us.
from what i understand, this will be the first time we've had proper public sources since the GB release.
the new feature set looks like it'll be pretty amazing so long as they optimized it well... I don't really care if newer fancier phones and tabs have more resources... more resources should allow you to do more things better, NOT an excuse to settle for sub-par optimization of code because "oh, it doesn't matter anymore, all new devices have enough ram and cpu speed to handle it!"... </rant>
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When you pose a question to which you would like an answer, if falls under the Q&A section.
When you would like to discuss & have active engagement on a particular topic then it would fall under the General section.
Don't worry, I understand you intent, no rudeness is taken.
The development sections are for posting active development projects. I.e ROMs, APPs & MODs & to receive feedback, help, advice & even thanks.
To use this thread as an example, the OP asked.
That is a question, even the thread title has [QUESTION] in it. The answer to this particular question is, we honestly don't know.
IF the OP had worded it similar to this.
This, to me is open for discussion, and not a clear cut yes or no. There is a gray (British spelling ) area as you could say the General section is full of questions.
But to clarify, If I see any threads with [Q] or [Question] in the thread title or post, in the General section, it will be deleted & the user Warned, not Infracted, just warned.
If they haven't bothered checking what section they are posting in, its highly likely they haven't bothered searching for the answer either, but that is another kettle of fish
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Ah, I should have formulated the question better!
I apologize. Next time, questions go to Q&A section
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From the news:
"Gabe Cohen from Google claims that most Gingerbread devices may have an upgrade to Android 4.0, claiming that it is theoretically compatible with any Android 2.3.x device"
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I agree!!! More so if ICS is the hybrid between honeycomb (tabs only) and gingerbread (smartphones only), it should work on Original Galaxy(OG) tab, at least for those upgraded to gingerbread. Now we have OG 7" on 2.3, sg-tab 7 plus on 3.2 and possibly sg-tab 7.7 on ??4.0(I guess), sammy better get ICS on all otherwise it'll be hard selling all three.
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I agree!!! More so if ICS is the hybrid between honeycomb (tabs only) and gingerbread (smartphones only), it should work on Original Galaxy(OG) tab, at least for those upgraded to gingerbread. Now we have OG 7" on 2.3, sg-tab 7 plus on 3.2 and possibly sg-tab 7.7 on ??4.0(I guess), sammy better get ICS on all otherwise it'll be hard selling all three.
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I thing the original sgt7 is no longer part of the lineup i belive it has been discontinued. So the 7 plus is 3.2, as is the 10.1, and the 7.7. Samsung has settled on honeycomb for the lot but have already stated that each of these tablets will get upgraded to ics "real soon". On the flipside they all but confirmed that ics wont be coming to the original sgt7 making me very sad.
Samsung imho has really bad support for os updates in that they taje forever to release them and they are notorious for droping hardware / os support way too fast. My original sgt7 came out only about a year ago (last nov iirc).
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Some cyanogenmod guys are putting together CM9 for tabs in general and ours looks like its on the list.
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Some cyanogenmod guys are putting together CM9 for tabs in general and ours looks like its on the list.
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yes, that's true, there is lots of private third-party ICS development going on to get a good AOSP rom up and functional. I think that's going to be most dependent on the galaxy tab ics dev thread here and then the cyanogen guys will go ahead and hack it smooth with extra features and the like as they generally do. I was specifically tallking about samsung OEM rom support.
and FIY, there is already a worked over SDK port of honeycomb for the galaxy tab 7 that seems to run pretty smooth that you might want to check out here if you're interested. the ICS stuff looks like it's shaping up, but I expect it to be at least a few months before everything becomes smooth enough for use as a daily rom.
INDEX:
Background
Purpose
General Recommendations
When You Post in a Thread
Credits
Themes (at post #2)
Tutorials, Help Threads & Guides (at post #3)
Reports about Battery Life or Endurance (at post #4)
Possible WiFi Drops (at post #5)
Background: Following some threads in this forum I've pretty early realised that quite a few bug reports, requests and questions are raised without sufficient information to allow developers (dev), recognised contributors (RCs) or other members to easily provide solid answers and recommendations or a possible fix. Everybody should remember even the highly professional dev cannot read your mind.
Purpose: To provide some recommendations how to best phrase a request to receive the most suitable answer.
General recommendations:
Please read the XDA Forum Rules provided by @MikeChannon; from my personal point of view a definite MUST READ for everybody who intends to post on XDA or to contribute to this great site. Other MUST READ's I certainly recommend to everybody who wants to "breathe" what I believe the spirit of XDA is, are the following posts:
Forum Etiquette by @TheByteSmasher,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2441 by @zelendel, and last but not least
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=44 by @kyphur.
Do me the favour and really inhale what I just linked above!
Remember: Before you flash anything take a NANDROID backup or ensure you've an up-to-date one!
Before you post your issue or request, reboot at least once and try to replicate your problem. If it doesn't persist any longer the reboot might already have been the solution.
Read, read, and read again, read the OPs (first post of each thread) and scan the respective thread. Use the search function of XDA (in-thread search is so good). Also, you can use a web search. It means you have to read and study but I've no doubt you don't mind to do that for your device. With all this, you'll probably find your answer without having to post something.
A lot of OPs already contain hints how to solve commonly known issues, e.g. the [ROM][6.0.1][i9305 OFFICIAL] Resurrection Remix® M v5.7.3 OP by @rodman01 provides at the very end information and workarounds for random reboots during calls, camera crashes (see also post #43) or how to convert filesystem Ext4 to F2FS and vice versa.
You have first to know by yourself if your issue could be ROM or Kernel related. If you don't, post and see how it goes. Occasionally, the issue seems to be ROM or kernel related on the first glance but it isn't. For example, MMS sending or receiving issues are mostly related to somehow wrong or bad APN settings, or the baseband/modem isn't suitable for the respective local region or the desired carrier. A guide in regard to fixing of MMS issues is linked at post #3.
Before you post in a ROM development thread, be sure you do not run a custom kernel or Xposed (you should disable all Xposed modules and see if your issue still persists). Despite this, if you use a custom kernel or use Xposed and you're 100% sure it's ROM related, maybe you could post.
Last but not least: Don't ask what e.g. the best ROM or kernel is! All ROM, kernel, etc. available at xda are great but each one has its different specification, capabilities, pro's and con's. The best one for you is the one, which meets your desires and expectations.
When you post in a thread:
Post questions in Q&A forums or threads instead of DEV forums. But if you have a solid bug report (never reported before and fulfilling all the required criteria, check below) with all needed info, you can post in a DEV thread.
Don't make a dev, RC or anybody else to read your mind.
Don't have a dev, RC, or anybody else to make assumptions. As soon as an assumption fails the whole solution is going to become void.
Please post your issue or request by using the English language as mentioned in the XDA rules to allow everybody to understand the post and hopefully to contribute to or at least to learn out of it. Don't be afraid if English isn't your native tongue - that's certainly the case for most of the xda users. English isn't an issue here - as long as we all at least try to use this language. Even if your English skills aren't too developed just use simple wording; nobody is going to blame you; however, try to be as precise and unambiguous as possible.
Always run a logging tool to be able to augment your post by a log (logcat) file. Add the log as an attachment to your post or upload it on the cloud and paste the public link in your post. It doesn't matter, which logging tool you use but familiarise yourself with its use and where it saves the log. I'm e.g. using an app called "Catlog" that saves logs to the internal memory. Also you can use the MatLog app or use adb commands (HERE is a guide/tutorial)
If you're running Xposed uninstall it, and take the log again (while Xposed is running, the log even states that it's useless because of Xposed).
Take screenshots (quite often via buttons "Vol-" & "Pwr" or "Home" & "Pwr" depending on the ROM you use) or if more suitable a screen record (quite often via buttons "Vol+" & "Pwr") and attach them/it to your post. Before you take a screenshot or record, change your system language to English to allow everybody to understand the content of the screen. Some ROM provide these functionalities in the menu of the power button, too; however, they must be enable within the ROM settings.
Always provide exact and precise information about your issue. Write a description and, if possible, steps to reproduce.
Always provide exact and precise information about your device, the ROM, the kernel, your recovery, and specify the versions of the latter three. Occasionally information about your modem (or even bootloader) might also be helpful e.g. if you've problems with the RIL, mobile network or making phone calls. If you're on F2FS please mention.
If your issue or problem occurred immediately after you freshly flashed a ROM or kernel, please describe your installation procedure (clean, dirty, or describe when you wiped and/or formatted what). Please provide information, from which ROM or kernel you came.
If you have issues with anything from Google, specify the GApps version you flashed.
If you're using Xposed (not recommended when reporting bugs), please provide this important information including version and its developer as well as the modules you use.
Credits:
@Wood Man for commenting the initial draft and the highly valuable contributions.
@西村大一 for providing helpful comments to keep this thread valuable.
and to everybody who I mentioned in this OP or the subsequent posts. If I forgot someone I apologise. Please let me know in this case or if you want to be more prominently given credit; I'm happy to immediately follow such a request!
EDIT (2016-09-11) Reports about battery life or endurance:
Moved to post#4.
Off topic comments are allowed as long they are generally related to the overall topic, are in the general interest of the followers of this thread and add value to the thread. The ultimate decision rests with me as the OP!
Themes
In addition to all statements in the OP, themes might be able to heavily influence system/ROM performance and behaviour; however, all pending on the used ROMs. Themes could mess things up on specific ROMs.
I personally got black screens on my GT-I9305 in the combination of a specific theme used, Resurrection Remix (MM) and Xposed. Switching to a different theme (PitchBlack | DarkRed CM13/12), which was developed by a Resurrection Remix dev (Altan KRK (westcrip)), solved the issue. Another RC experienced and reported to have had issues related to themes when he tested CM12.1 and CM13.
On the other hand, e.g. some Sammy stock based Android 4.4.4 ROMs (e.g. AMCHA ROM, N4 ELITE, TGP, etc) even don't have a theme engine, and shouldn't make the above mentioned trouble.
As said, it depends on the used ROM! But if you experience issues I suggest at least to consider your theme to be possibly involved. Guess it's pretty easy to switch to the stock design, probably to reboot, and to check if the issue persists. However, I like to stress again, it depends on the used ROM!
Thanks to @[I]Wood Man[/I] who first pointed me to the solution to my above mentioned issue, and second who doesn't get tired in providing hints for this thread!
Tutorials, Help Threads & Guides
What is? Boot loader, custom ROMs, CWM, modem, kernel, flashing, rooting, ADB, baseband?? by @esimon311. Thanks to esimon311 for this great overview.:good:
[GUIDE] Most up to date guide on CPU governors, I/O schedulers and more! by @Saber. Thanks to Saber (formerly gsstudios) for this great guide.:good:
[Tutorial] How To Logcat by @paxChristos. Thanks to paxChristos for this great tutorial.:good:
[HELP THREAD][i9300][i9305] Ask any Question. Noob friendly. by @limjh16. Thanks to limjh16 for providing great support.:good:
[HELP THREAD] Galaxy S3 - Ask any question. by @tommypacker. Thanks to tommypacker for having set up this great help thread.:good:
[Q&A] to [INDEX] Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE - ROMs, Kernels, MODs, Recoveries, Themes established by the "QA bot".
[GUIDE][26-07-2016]Extreme Battery Life Thread(Greenify+Amplify+Power Nap) by @v7. Thanks to v7 for having set up this great guide.:good:
Idle Battery Drain on Stock ROM (XPosed & Amplify Required!) by @Celestial Fury. Thanks to Celestial Fury for having set up this great guide.:good:
[HOW TO] Fix GPS location/locking to satellites issue by @Maho_66. Thanks to MaHo_66 for this great procedure.:good:
[GUIDE] SIM-unlock your i9305 by @西村大一, formerly known as "Alexander_the_B0ss". Thanks to 西村大一 for this useful guide.:good:
[GUIDE] [HOW TO] [FIX] MMS sending error on 5.1 to 7.1 AOSP and CM based ROMs by @alias_ z3d. Thanks to alias_z3d for this useful guide.:good:
How did I enhance the battery duration of my SGS 3 LTE (GT-I9305)? by me.
A short story by me how I installed microG and related application on my GApps-free device is available here.
If any of the above information has been of help for you please hit the thanks button in the respective OP!
Reports about Battery Life or Endurance
If you observe abnormal battery performance, duration or life from your point of view, please take and check battery statistics yourself!
Please do NOT post anything beforehand (e.g. in the Q&A thread)!
From my personal point of view, a recommendable application to check battery stats is “BetterBatteryStats” but there a lot of similiar apps available. The OP of “BetterBatteryStats” provides you with good information about wakelocks and battery life in general, too.
Take your stats for some hours or even better a few days (and nights). Try to figure out if wakelocks persist that are triggered by apps or processes. If you are able to identify e.g. such an app, try first yourself if the issue gets fixed by de-installation of such an app. Think about getting in touch with the app's developer.
ONLY if it’s finally ROM or kernel related, post in Q&A section or dev section but observe these prerequisites:
Battery stats screenshots, AND logs, AND as many details as possible.
Good battery endurance paired with a "smooth" system behaviour seems to be priority number one for everybody for obvious reasons. However, regularly nobody clearly defines what a good battery endurance or life means. Is it the 24+ hrs, which satisfies the one, but 16 hrs already the other? Discussions about the battery seem to continue just knowing the type of device and probably the ROM but ignore the overall system and especially personal behaviour and preferences of the device's owner.
Besides ROM and kernel, a lot of different things are obviously effecting the battery:
How do you use your phone? Heavy load gaming? Screen permanently on while staring on "grimacebook" or "whogivesa..."?
What are the application running on the device, and which have permission for auto-start at boot or to stay awake? Which and how many applications do run in the background, and are eating fuel?
Age, capacity, and type of the battery.
Mobile data always ON or not.
WiFi always ON or not.
Cell network coverage and reception.
Screen brightness level.
Abnormal wakelocks triggered by crappy apps.
etc. etc. etc.
Prior to a decision for a specific tariff plan, analysis of the consumer behaviour in regard to number, duration, network of calls, text messages, and data consumption is desired. In turn, evaluation of battery life appears to require a similar approach by assessing the topics stated in the list above. Literally, at least I personally deem to be unable to advice anybody else but me how good battery life is or how to improve it.
It's somehow useless for different users to compare or ask for battery life between ROMs / Kernels since we all have different behaviours, different ways to configure the phone, and different apps installed.
For completeness, I'd like to mention there're multiple applications and Xposed modules around, which are supposed to extend endurance of a battery, e.g. Greenify, Amplify, or Power Nap in order just to mention a few. A web search might drag you to the ones that are best suited to you, and you always need to evaluate for yourself if they serve the advertised purpose and your requirements. Be also aware that some of them require the Xposed framework to function or for full functionality. Some guides are linked at post#3. If interested in privacy I suggest to thoroughly read the reviews of the respective tool, have its point or country of origin in mind, and search the web. Nearly all are requesting root privileges and/or use the Xposed framework i.e. are going to have more or less unlimited access to your device. Good news are many of them are open source, and at least the ones I mentioned above don't require access to the internet to function. I'd personally ensure that they mustn't pass the firewall (e.g. AFWall+ by @ukanth or NetGuard by Marcel Bokhorst (@M66B).
(edited with the help of and thanks to @Wood Man):good:
EDIT (2016-10-11): In this thread, I tried to explain how I did enhance the battery duration of my SGS 3 LTE (GT-I9305); however, maybe it's also suitable to other devices (I'm convinced it is).
Possible WiFi Drops
@Wood Man allowed me to quote him reagrding WiFi drops that occured to him several times. It never happened to me because my setup was (just by accident) always different; however, if WiFi drops occur to you please have a look below. The explanation is so reasonable and makes so much sense from my point of view. Thanks very much to Wood Man for sharing his knowledge.
Wood Man said:
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Here is a feedback about an old issue I've reported about wifi drops: previous reports HERE and HERE.
I can say the problem is not the ROM neither the kernel. Everything is OK on your side rodman . The problem is just because I use Wi-Fi 2.4ghz and bluetooth at the same time. Since bluetooth uses the same 2.4 ghz frequency, it explains the problem: INTERFERENCES while streaming on both wifi and bluetooth at the same time!
It's a known and common issue with wireless devices. One culprit should be wifi or bluetooth drivers which not handle perfectly both connections at the same frequencies. Some devices well built, with good drivers, can handle this well AFAIK. It's never perfect because other sources of interferences exist.
One solution should be to use wifi 5ghz (if available on router, and device).
Another solution is to use better bluetooth devices which handle better bluetooth/wifi protocol, using the same frequency.
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About drainage, I don't know. But could be...
The interferences happen only while streaming. I mean we can connect both wifi 2.4 and bluetooth at the same time without problem, the connection stays, but inteferences happen only when sound goes to audio bluetooth device.
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Forgot to say that even if wifi 2.4 doesn't drop, the wifi transfer speed could very very slow in case of interferences with bluetooth streaming. (It's my case with my P9 Lite).
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UPDATE (2017-05-26): Please find some additional, new information of @Wood Man at post #59:
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I did a house moving recently and now I can use both Wifi 2,4 ghz and bluetooth at the same time without issues. The differences between my previous flat and my new one are:
1- A new router,
2- Less Wifi networks around me.
I bet point #2 above is the key because there are less interferences now in my flat ...
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Aminewolf said:
#Outoftopic
Feels good to give the freshly joined juniors a lesson on how to use the search function doesn't it
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Actually not; I don't want to appear as a schoolmaster. That's the reason why I decided to create this thread.
I already asked FLooDW, but I'm also looking forward to your opinion?
Hi @noc.jfcbs,
Thanks for your thread, your time, your recent contributions and credits you gave to me
This is a good idea, I really hope a lot of members will read and apply your recommendations.
As you requested my opinion, I've done some modifications in your OP here below within the HIDE tags. Maybe some more adjustments will be necessary, I don't know yet.
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Hi @noc.jfcbs,
Thanks for your thread, your time, your recent contributions and credits you gave to me
This is a good idea, I really hope a lot of members will read and apply your recommendations.
As you requested my opinion, I've done some modifications in your OP here below within the HIDE tags (sorry for XDA Labs users who will see the the whole modified OP). I will for sure update my post once the OP is modified (if you want to do so). Maybe some more adjustments will be necessary, I don't know yet. ...
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@[I]FLooDW[/I], your suggestion is at least 10x better than my (let's call it) initial draft. Thank you very much for taking your time and having a look. ...actually it was much more than that. I did appreciate it.
OP is modified and waiting for further adjustments. Guess you can update your post now. CU
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@[I]FLooDW[/I], your suggestion is at least 10x better than my (let's call it) initial draft. Thank you very much for taking your time and having a look. ...actually it was much more than that. I did appreciate it.
OP is modified and waiting for further adjustments. Guess you can update your post now. CU
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OK thanks for including my changes
My post is now edited.
Also, I've already added your thread in my signature
This is a very good thread, contribution and idea. The only problem to me is that it is in a secluded forum (quite) you may want to ask a moderator to move this to general forums or such.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using XDA Labs
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This is a very good thread, contribution and idea. The only problem to me is that it is in a secluded forum (quite) you may want to ask a moderator to move this to general forums or such.
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Yes I was thinking quite the same. I'm not sure this thread is at the right place. But in another hand I think it could be a good idea to keep it in dev forum because the purpose is to advertise members to post the right way in dev threads. It could be discussed
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Yes I was thinking quite the same. I'm not sure this thread is at the right place. But in another hand I think it could be a good idea to keep it in dev forum because the purpose is to advertise members to post the right way in dev threads. It could be discussed
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Let me give you my 2cents:
The thread, no doubt, is in the wrong forum, but it should be pinned and given the highest priority. It is so effin useful.
The idea behind it is so good. Really. It makes me jealous. I will try and formulate some examples for @noc.jfcbs to add to the OP to further help newbies.
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Let me give you my 2cents:
The thread, no doubt, is in the wrong forum, but it should be pinned and given the highest priority. It is so effin useful.
The idea behind it is so good. Really. It makes me jealous. I will try and formulate some examples for @noc.jfcbs to add to the OP to further help newbies.
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Well, good point
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However if we move this thread in Q&A section, I think it won't be read that much before newbies post in DEV forum... Even if it's pinned in Q&A section.
I really think it should be pinned in dev forum so newbies read before posting there, but it would also be inappropriate for dev forums...
Or it should go to general forum and pinned and linked to all dev forums. But then again if we link it some may not see (I'm guilty of this sometimes :silly: ) should I page a moderator? Or I think we should wait for noc.jfcbs to make his own decision
Sent from my GT-I9305 using XDA Labs
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I really think it should be pinned in dev forum so newbies read before posting there, but it would also be inappropriate for dev forums...
Or it should go to general forum and pinned and linked to all dev forums. But then again if we link it some may not see (I'm guilty of this sometimes :silly: ) should I page a moderator? Or I think we should wait for noc.jfcbs to make his own decision
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In any case we have to wait noc.jfcbs's point of view and then we'll ask a moderator.
@[I]FLooDW[/I], @limjh16: I've got to know both of you as very experienced and highly motivated Android enthusiasts in xda. Just looking at my joining date, I'm still a newbie on this site, and I personally rather take advice from guys with more experiences.
However, before I opened this thread I certainly thought of its right place, and I had all location you mentioned above under closer consideration but I finally decide to open the thread in the current forum for this reason: I remembered which the first forum was that I used when I initially came to xda. It wasn't any "general forum" or "Q&A" but the current one. I was in interested in ROM, kernel etc. for my specific device. Additionally, I thought if the thread doesn't fit here a mod is certainly going to move it to the right place.
Having followed your discussion I meanwhile believe the topic of this thread is much more generic and not at all related to a specific device and therefore should deserve a different location on xda. On the other hand, and that's a bit selfish, I'd like to support the forums and threads I'm used to mainly monitor by qualified posts of "newbies". Currently two hearts are beating in my breast; probably I'd rather be egoistic.
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@[I]FLooDW[/I], @limjh16: I've got to know both of you as very experienced and highly motivated Android enthusiasts in xda. Just looking at my joining date, I'm still a newbie on this site, and I personally rather take advice from guys with more experiences.
However, before I opened this thread I certainly thought of its right place, and I had all location you mentioned above under closer consideration but I finally decide to open the thread in the current forum for this reason: I remembered which the first forum was that I used when I initially came to xda. It wasn't any "general forum" or "Q&A" but the current one. I was in interested in ROM, kernel etc. for my specific device. Additionally, I thought if the thread doesn't fit here a mod is certainly going to move it to the right place.
Having followed your discussion I meanwhile believe the topic of this thread is much more generic and not at all related to a specific device and therefore should deserve a different location on xda. On the other hand, and that's a bit selfish, I'd like to support the forums and threads I'm used to mainly monitor by qualified posts of "newbies". Currently two hearts are beating in my breast; probably I'd rather be egoistic.
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in that case, do you think it will be a good idea to include this in every rom thread? I will definitely quote this OP in all my rom, kernel etc threads with your permission. And we can always page for rodman
Allow me to make a suggestion, even or although it might be, that this couldn't be implemented in the forum system. Because of the reason that the 10 post rule seems to be cancelled (?), what do you think about, when ever a new member is willing to post a comment in a dev thread, he would get a pop up with a link to your, will say this post. Or in that pop up the message is already included. It might be a bit strict, but its mentioned without offense. I can understand, that most of the people and new users, want to get an answer soon or even at once, to their individual questions or problems and this without doing something of themselves. They want it presented or spoon feeded (@FLooDW ). And this also a matter of our current life style , in my opinion. But on the other hand, for example you and FLooDW and several others are taking their time to find solutions, to answer again and again and individually and user friendly. Porters or devs, if they are not also and additionally answer regularly in their threads, are spending their time with the roms they provide. So I think, if you/we request a bit time from the other users, that would not only be fair. It would also show a kind or certain respect to the time and effort other users are spending to support the others in which way ever....
Beside of that I personally would appreciate and prefer that this thread would be pinned here in the dev section...
Just my thoughts....
I'm just going to go ahead and ping @Trafalgar Square
I have an idea (not a very good / original one) that there is a pinned post in dev section that links to this thread. Not exactly this thread goes onto every forum, more of the pinned post redirects here
or if possible, rodman 's suggestion
Alexander_the_B0ss said:
Let me give you my 2cents:
The thread, no doubt, is in the wrong forum, but it should be pinned and given the highest priority. It is so effin useful.
The idea behind it is so good. Really. It makes me jealous. I will try and formulate some examples for @noc.jfcbs to add to the OP to further help newbies.
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@Alexander_the_B0ss: I'm getting shyly by your kind words but looking forward to your highly appreciated advice and suggestions.