I know it has been announced only a few hours ago and the source is not available yet. But, when Google finally releases the source code, will there ever be a ROM for the original Galaxy Tab?
I am curious because the answer to this question will help me resist the new tablet temptation
Having a hard time with HC, I doubt it with ICS....even the GB ROMs are not very polished, like Overcome causes warming up problem....
It can be short...
Maybe it will arrive sooner as we think, not with cyanogenmod, even if i want it on my tab, but with MIUI, I just read on the MIUIteam fr that MIUI have the source since they have the status of developpers with the XIAOMI, and they are already work on the Mi-one and the two nexus, so maybe the us team who develop the MIUI Rom for our tab will be able to port ISC on the galaxy tab?
I just hope that we can have ISC on our tab before Christmans it will be great!
ICS
From the news:
"Gabe Cohen from Google claims that most Gingerbread devices may have an upgrade to Android 4.0, claiming that it is theoretically compatible with any Android 2.3.x device"
I would presume (going off the little snippits of info I've gleaned) that almost ANY device will be able to run ICS in some capacity or another since it is designed to be all encompassing. (Think Ubuntu for comparison) Admittedly some older devices will struggle due to the specs but this is the same for every old device.
I could be completely WAY-OFF the mark but I believe el-goog is heading down the Canonical Road and pretty soon we will have OS's that just play well together, be it on mobile, laptop, PC, TV yadda yadda yadda......and then we'll see a small moon appear on the horizon
No wait, "That's not a moon.....It's a SPACE STATION!" cue dramatic music and suddenly everyone and their dog will be screaming "IT'S A TRAAAAAP!" "TURN THIS SHIP AROUND!" but by then we'll all be caught in the tractor beam and headed for a Schwartz-off with Dark Helmet......
Jus sayin
Developers get new devices and forget about old ones. Time's working against us...
In future, post [QUESTIONS] in your separate Q&A section.
The next thread I see in the General section, that asks a [QUESTION] will be deleted, the user will receive a Warning.
I believe there will be a rom, not before Christmas tho
At least not a stable one.
Will Samsung release ICS for Galaxy Tab ??
Do you think people will port it or wait for source code.
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In future, post [QUESTIONS] in your separate Q&A section.
The next thread I see in the General section, that asks a [QUESTION] will be deleted, the user will receive a Warning.
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How does a question not belong in general? Is the general sub forum not for General discussion. Don't mean to be rude just wondering how that does not encompass a question (heck a development thread could in theory fall under the general category), i understand that there is a specific category for q&a and trying to order the chaos; it just seems to me you can't really claim anything doesn't belong in general in order to delete and or warn a user.
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How does a question not belong in general?
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When you pose a question to which you would like an answer, if falls under the Q&A section.
Is the general sub forum not for General discussion.
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When you would like to discuss & have active engagement on a particular topic then it would fall under the General section.
Don't mean to be rude just wondering how that does not encompass a question (heck a development thread could in theory fall under the general category), i understand that there is a specific category for q&a and trying to order the chaos; it just seems to me you can't really claim anything doesn't belong in general in order to delete and or warn a user.
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Don't worry, I understand you intent, no rudeness is taken.
The development sections are for posting active development projects. I.e ROMs, APPs & MODs & to receive feedback, help, advice & even thanks.
To use this thread as an example, the OP asked.
when Google finally releases the source code, will there ever be a ROM for the original Galaxy Tab?
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That is a question, even the thread title has [QUESTION] in it. The answer to this particular question is, we honestly don't know.
IF the OP had worded it similar to this.
When Google finally release the source code, do you guys think there will ever be a ROM for the original Galaxy Tab
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This, to me is open for discussion, and not a clear cut yes or no. There is a gray (British spelling ) area as you could say the General section is full of questions.
But to clarify, If I see any threads with [Q] or [Question] in the thread title or post, in the General section, it will be deleted & the user Warned, not Infracted, just warned.
If they haven't bothered checking what section they are posting in, its highly likely they haven't bothered searching for the answer either, but that is another kettle of fish
This is all so incredibly exciting... looks like an amazing release and I really hope that I can put it on my SGT very soon!
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Andy: Thank you for being awesome - lots of admins I've worked with throughout the years would probably throw a hissy over perceived insurrection when questions of protocol are asked. Your professionalism is greatly appreciated.
I am so glad that google appears to have gone with an open model this time around - it looks like they actually worked to maximize compatibility with the wide range of GB running devices and made everything pretty portable. of course we'll know more about that in a week or so when google drops the sources on us.
from what i understand, this will be the first time we've had proper public sources since the GB release.
the new feature set looks like it'll be pretty amazing so long as they optimized it well... I don't really care if newer fancier phones and tabs have more resources... more resources should allow you to do more things better, NOT an excuse to settle for sub-par optimization of code because "oh, it doesn't matter anymore, all new devices have enough ram and cpu speed to handle it!"... </rant>
andyharney said:
When you pose a question to which you would like an answer, if falls under the Q&A section.
When you would like to discuss & have active engagement on a particular topic then it would fall under the General section.
Don't worry, I understand you intent, no rudeness is taken.
The development sections are for posting active development projects. I.e ROMs, APPs & MODs & to receive feedback, help, advice & even thanks.
To use this thread as an example, the OP asked.
That is a question, even the thread title has [QUESTION] in it. The answer to this particular question is, we honestly don't know.
IF the OP had worded it similar to this.
This, to me is open for discussion, and not a clear cut yes or no. There is a gray (British spelling ) area as you could say the General section is full of questions.
But to clarify, If I see any threads with [Q] or [Question] in the thread title or post, in the General section, it will be deleted & the user Warned, not Infracted, just warned.
If they haven't bothered checking what section they are posting in, its highly likely they haven't bothered searching for the answer either, but that is another kettle of fish
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Ah, I should have formulated the question better!
I apologize. Next time, questions go to Q&A section
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From the news:
"Gabe Cohen from Google claims that most Gingerbread devices may have an upgrade to Android 4.0, claiming that it is theoretically compatible with any Android 2.3.x device"
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I agree!!! More so if ICS is the hybrid between honeycomb (tabs only) and gingerbread (smartphones only), it should work on Original Galaxy(OG) tab, at least for those upgraded to gingerbread. Now we have OG 7" on 2.3, sg-tab 7 plus on 3.2 and possibly sg-tab 7.7 on ??4.0(I guess), sammy better get ICS on all otherwise it'll be hard selling all three.
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I agree!!! More so if ICS is the hybrid between honeycomb (tabs only) and gingerbread (smartphones only), it should work on Original Galaxy(OG) tab, at least for those upgraded to gingerbread. Now we have OG 7" on 2.3, sg-tab 7 plus on 3.2 and possibly sg-tab 7.7 on ??4.0(I guess), sammy better get ICS on all otherwise it'll be hard selling all three.
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I thing the original sgt7 is no longer part of the lineup i belive it has been discontinued. So the 7 plus is 3.2, as is the 10.1, and the 7.7. Samsung has settled on honeycomb for the lot but have already stated that each of these tablets will get upgraded to ics "real soon". On the flipside they all but confirmed that ics wont be coming to the original sgt7 making me very sad.
Samsung imho has really bad support for os updates in that they taje forever to release them and they are notorious for droping hardware / os support way too fast. My original sgt7 came out only about a year ago (last nov iirc).
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App
Some cyanogenmod guys are putting together CM9 for tabs in general and ours looks like its on the list.
Sent from Sprint Galaxy Tab
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Some cyanogenmod guys are putting together CM9 for tabs in general and ours looks like its on the list.
Sent from Sprint Galaxy Tab
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yes, that's true, there is lots of private third-party ICS development going on to get a good AOSP rom up and functional. I think that's going to be most dependent on the galaxy tab ics dev thread here and then the cyanogen guys will go ahead and hack it smooth with extra features and the like as they generally do. I was specifically tallking about samsung OEM rom support.
and FIY, there is already a worked over SDK port of honeycomb for the galaxy tab 7 that seems to run pretty smooth that you might want to check out here if you're interested. the ICS stuff looks like it's shaping up, but I expect it to be at least a few months before everything becomes smooth enough for use as a daily rom.
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Unless I'm mistaken, there now is only one Dev out there that has stuck by Captivate code. As someone who places a high value on the Audience voice chip on the AT&T devices, I am very interested to see if more devs will look at this newly released source and make something of it, either new or port their existing top-notch work. I've tried, and liked, many of the I9000-based ROMs, but I keep coming back to the Cappy-based ones due to the voice quality.
So Devs... any interest? I'm sure that I'm not alone from a user perspective.
I would like to see a kernal based off the released source that also has the voodoo sound added to it. I am sure there is a lot that can be done and it will take some time.
I was thinking of flashing to something new, but with the source available, I think it's time to be patient. Can't wait for a semi-up to date ROM with full captivate compatibility!
this belongs in Q&A section
I believe whole heartedly that the ROMS the DEVs are putting out are fantastic and do everything I want and need in a ROM.
OTHER then the audiance chip support. It would be cool to have in the roms as an ability but not necessarily required.
See sig below - this post doesnt belong here. *facepalm* The devs will do what they do, when they decide they wanna do it - noobs coming in here constantly asking for sh*t only irritates them and pushes them away from bringing us the good stuff....
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I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
Devs still read the Q&A - how about reading the forum rules and abiding.... this is un-needed clutter in the Dev section
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I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
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Regardless, if you feel the need to post about this topic in this section, there is already a thread about it. Post your question in there. No need for another thread.
jgc121 said:
See sig below - this post doesnt belong here. *facepalm* The devs will do what they do, when they decide they wanna do it - noobs coming in here constantly asking for sh*t only irritates them and pushes them away from bringing us the good stuff....
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Not trying to start a flamewar or anything... while I only joined last November, and my post count is indeed low, please don't assume that I'm here asking for candy. I comb these forums many times daily, and only post when I can't find the answers I'm looking for.
As for irritating the devs by asking for stuff... I've noticed that for the most part, they actually like the feedback, and want to know what the users like. I see no problem with providing input. Like I said, I posted here because the Devs come here, and not so much to the Q&A section.
Lastly (and maybe this should have been clearer in my OP), only one dev seems to be working on Captivate kernels, with the rest working on I9000 (since source has been around a long while). What with new hardware around the corner, dev interest for the Cappy might be waning. I thought it a fair question.
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I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
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No..does not make sense. If you read the forum rules it will be clear why it doesn't make sense.
Not trying to start a flame war either was just trying to redirect you and prevent further endless flaming if you continued to post in the wrong section.
Last thing I wanted was to tick people off
But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
Out.
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I thought about that, but I put it here for two reasons:
The developers come here regularly, and not necessarily the Q&A section
This is a question directed directly at the devs, not necessarily the user community
Make sense?
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So just coz it says "Hey devs" means it should go to the Dev section?
I thought the development section was actually for development... Apparently I was wrong
uuugh..
bames said:
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Agree completely!! Dev(s) do read other forums
I have question about the source code that was just released. How do I implement it into my build enviroment?
I mean ok I extract the file. Then read the readme file. It says to overwrite the modules I want to build. Is there a general rule to what should and should not be over written. I have compiled the generic code but nothing device specific.
OMG! You DARE to post here?
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But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
Out.
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LOL. No apologies needed. This thread that you started is essentially the same as opcow's, except that he posted the news before you did. All that followed in his thread, however, was very similar to the responses in your thread.
Similar, but different - different because the hall monitors didn't flame anyone in that thread! Why not?? Because, methinks, for the most part, those in the other thread were more "senior" than thee, Mr. Dalewest. Get it? There's a pecking order here that must not be violated.
Strange, but I didn't notice any ROM devs complaining in your thread or Opcow's. I did, however, see some silliniess in the other thread, such as "Charlie Sheen throwing some pixie dust" into the new ROMs, but no cries of outrage over that. Then come some self-appointed spokespersons for the devs in your thread saying the devs this, the devs that, "Ooh, the devs are going to get upset," etc. [Sigh]
The source of KB1 dropping has been mentioned since yesterday or before in various threads here, and I didn't see any devs getting upset about it. The KB1 source dropping is certainly related to development. IMO it's perfectly fine to post it in Development. Your are not asking a general question - you are asking what the devs have in mind vis a vis development, now that KB1 has dropped.
That said, given that there was already another thread, you shouldn't have started another one. Consider your wrist slapped, ha, ha.
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But it seems that's exactly what happened.
Apologies to those that I irritated, especially the Developers to whom this thread was directed.
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no worries.
not ticked here. my original post was just to redirect you and try to help you avoid the flood of responses and/or flames that were sure to come.
Last night i was trying to flash a new update on my tab from Kies when horror there was a power cut thus leaving my beloved tab dead. Today i rang samsung support to book a service and during the conversation the agent told me that later this year samsung will release a honeycomb update for the 7 inch tab. At this point i asked how come as from reading threads i was under the impression that this was not going to happen and the only way was through a port from one of the amazing developers like spacemoose1 (cdma) and ssserpentine (gsm) his answer was that samsung wanted to compete with apple even more. has anyone else been told this from samsung ?
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Last night i was trying to flash a new update on my tab from Kies when horror there was a power cut thus leaving my beloved tab dead. Today i rang samsung support to book a service and during the conversation the agent told me that later this year samsung will release a honeycomb update for the 7 inch tab. At this point i asked how come as from reading threads i was under the impression that this was not going to happen and the only way was through a port from one of the amazing developers like spacemoose1 (cdma) and ssserpentine (gsm) his answer was that samsung wanted to compete with apple even more. has anyone else been told this from samsung ?
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1st of all ... SPACEMOOSE1 work , and no one else include . SSS is porting , collecting , testing , uploading THE GSM port for us thank him , if u saw him comment in anywhere
2nd .. Do U believe this Sh*t for God sakes .. its is impossible to happen !!!!!!! if they want to run with APPLE they should release it now or before ...
WE ARE REACHED THE FINAL STEP ( GINGERBREAD ) perhaps will be (ICECREAM) but honeyComb hell no ...
To The OP .. pls do change your thread Title is not a question , and if you like to keep it here in THE GENERAL SECTION that not suppose to post A Question thread here ...
thanks for sharing
1st the question i am asking is has anyone else been told this from samsung. if you read the post
2nd the honeycombe thread is now split as spacemoose1 and ssserpentine are now working together space doing the cdma release and ssserp doing the gsm so thanks shoould be given to both parties.
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1st the question i am asking is has anyone else been told this from samsung. if you read the post
2nd the honeycombe thread is now split as spacemoose1 and ssserpentine are now working together space doing the cdma release and ssserp doing the gsm so thanks shoould be given to both parties.
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i referred to ask you to change the title of the thread because this is the general Thread and is not FOR QUESTIONS >>>> so perhaps next time you post thread with Q you should post it in Q|A section ...
spacemoose1 and ssserpentine are now working together space doing the cdma release and ssserp doing the gsm so thanks shoould be given to both parties
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LMAO ... you should thank both and i didn't say you don't thank SPACEMOOSE1 because she is the Dev ... and pls .. who told you That SSS who is building THE GSM Honeycomb ...
all the respect to my mate (SSS) but he is not who building the HONEYCOMB ... Correct Me If I'm Mistaken !!!
@k0sh Technically, he is building the GSM version, but a majority of it is a port from Spacemoose.
@OP *sigh* Its bull****. Samsung want us to be happy by telling us lies. Read any other Honeycomb for our Tab related thread (no development threads) and you'll know that no device that launched with FroYo (like our Tab) will get Honeycomb. That's straight from Google who can deny any manufacturer the chance to give their devices updates.
It doesn't matter what anyone from Samsung says, Google said 'no'
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GANJDROID said:
@k0sh Technically, he is building the GSM version, but a majority of it is a port from Spacemoose.
@OP *sigh* Its bull****. Samsung want us to be happy by telling us lies. Read any other Honeycomb for our Tab related thread (no development threads) and you'll know that no device that launched with FroYo (like our Tab) will get Honeycomb. That's straight from Google who can deny any manufacturer the chance to give their devices updates.
It doesn't matter what anyone from Samsung says, Google said 'no'
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Mate i doubt about it .. can you then explain this for me ..
Second, that thread will be managed by ssserpentine. He will also be handling the distribution, packaging and eventually the kernel development for the GSM as well. This way I'm freer to focus on the development of the base rom for both devices. So expect a new thread with a new GSM release to pop up any minute now. ssserpentine will do a good job of getting things out to you, he's super resourceful and dedicated to making HC a more awesome experience.
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i referred to ask you to change the title of the thread because this is the general Thread and is not FOR QUESTIONS >>>> so perhaps next time you post thread with Q you should post it in Q|A section ...
LMAO ... you should thank both and i didn't say you don't thank SPACEMOOSE1 because she is the Dev ... and pls .. who told you That SSS who is building THE GSM Honeycomb ...
all the respect to my mate (SSS) but he is not who building the HONEYCOMB ... Correct Me If I'm Mistaken !!!
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Taken fron ssserpentines honeycomb gsm thread
This is an ALPHA version. There is no 3g, among many other things. Using an alpha rom can be very dangerous. Don't just flash, because you see its HONEYCOMB, read everything very carefully first!
(6/14/11)
After being up way too many hours in a row, and trying to do too many things at once, work on a new kernel has officially begun!
★what's in the oven. .
»new cwr with internal external support.
»1.2ghz
»uc ability
»reliable charging while power is off.
«doubtful, but cross your fingers for lagfix?
(6/13/11) : GSM owners. Alpha 2.5 has arrived!! (No 3g)I highly recommend you start off in FROYO, as coming from GINGERBREAD causes crashes. Use the overcome 1.6 instructions, if you are currently on GB.
But, beware, changing your bootloaders is very dangerous!
*modded build.prop to identify itself as a Samsung Galaxy Tab as GT-P1000. - test runs, not included in cdma release
*modded audiolib to accept dsp manager setting. (more equalizers comming soon) - test runs, not included in cdma release
*what I have planned, and currently in the works.*
* New kernel with 1.2, 1.4 oc
* Flexible scaling
* Attempted lagfix
* New CRW version with internal and external sd support
* SD cart mount upon boot
that is him as i understand it and it looks like he is developing it now
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Taken fron ssserpentines honeycomb gsm thread
This is an ALPHA version. There is no 3g, among many other things. Using an alpha rom can be very dangerous. Don't just flash, because you see its HONEYCOMB, read everything very carefully first!
(6/14/11)
After being up way too many hours in a row, and trying to do too many things at once, work on a new kernel has officially begun!
★what's in the oven. .
»new cwr with internal external support.
»1.2ghz
»uc ability
»reliable charging while power is off.
«doubtful, but cross your fingers for lagfix?
(6/13/11) : GSM owners. Alpha 2.5 has arrived!! (No 3g)I highly recommend you start off in FROYO, as coming from GINGERBREAD causes crashes. Use the overcome 1.6 instructions, if you are currently on GB.
But, beware, changing your bootloaders is very dangerous!
*modded build.prop to identify itself as a Samsung Galaxy Tab as GT-P1000. - test runs, not included in cdma release
*modded audiolib to accept dsp manager setting. (more equalizers comming soon) - test runs, not included in cdma release
*what I have planned, and currently in the works.*
* New kernel with 1.2, 1.4 oc
* Flexible scaling
* Attempted lagfix
* New CRW version with internal and external sd support
* SD cart mount upon boot
that is him as i understand it and it looks like he is developing it now
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owh that is really great .. glad to see SSS doing hard work ... ..
anyways .. change the thread title or your thread will be moved shortly i guess
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owh that is really great .. glad to see SSS doing hard work ... ..
anyways .. change the thread title or your thread will be moved shortly i guess
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EDIT : pls do note that this is SPACEMOOSE1 post and not SSS ...
anyways . its not my business who is building it ... just a hint
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Last night i was trying to flash a new update on my tab from Kies when horror there was a power cut thus leaving my beloved tab dead. Today i rang samsung support to book a service and during the conversation the agent told me that later this year samsung will release a honeycomb update for the 7 inch tab. At this point i asked how come as from reading threads i was under the impression that this was not going to happen and the only way was through a port from one of the amazing developers like spacemoose1 (cdma) and ssserpentine (gsm) his answer was that samsung wanted to compete with apple even more. has anyone else been told this from samsung ?
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I can't swallow that agent's speech, although i'd wish for it to be genuine.
Sammy has quite a history for letting its customers down, either by delays or no updates at all.
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I can't swallow that agent's speech, although i'd wish for it to be genuine.
Sammy has quite a history for letting its customers down, either by delays or no updates at all.
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+1 ... Samsung said . we gonna have galaxy tab 10.1 for free only for the galaxy tab 7.1 owners ... do you believe this Sh*t ? hahaha , just rumors i made
GANJDROID said:
@k0sh Technically, he is building the GSM version, but a majority of it is a port from Spacemoose.
@OP *sigh* Its bull****. Samsung want us to be happy by telling us lies. Read any other Honeycomb for our Tab related thread (no development threads) and you'll know that no device that launched with FroYo (like our Tab) will get Honeycomb. That's straight from Google who can deny any manufacturer the chance to give their devices updates.
It doesn't matter what anyone from Samsung says, Google said 'no'
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Can you please direct me to a source which says that Google said no existing Froyo devices can be updated to HoneyComb? I honestly don't remember any such official statement from Google!
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Can you please direct me to a source which says that Google said no existing Froyo devices can be updated to HoneyComb? I honestly don't remember any such official statement from Google!
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I don't have it bookmarked but itbwas about a few weeks after they released the SDK.
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Can you please direct me to a source which says that Google said no existing Froyo devices can be updated to HoneyComb? I honestly don't remember any such official statement from Google!
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Ill try and dig up the link, but do a search its posted somewhere here on the forums, and their reasoning behind it is;
they don't want 39 million china tablets coming out and giving honeycomb a bad name.
I ran into this problem the other day, someone at uni had a 7inch china tablet with froyo and everyone was talking about how **** android must be
i had to pull out my device and be like, nawwwwwwww.
Majority of people are retards and it only takes one china device to give android a bad name
I am not sure xda-developers forum is the place to discuss about but now I am almost sure that our N1 will never be getting a real ICS.
I understand now that N1 hardware does not support API mapping and all we get from the developers's effort like dk_zero-cool, texasice and zyr3x is very lag rom.
Unfortunately I don't see any future on ICS here and I believe that we will stay on GB. hope that the developers will go on and develop new and better CM or sense
ron that based on GB.
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I am not sure xda-developers forum is the place to discuss about but now I am almost sure that our N1 will never be getting a real ICS.
I understand now that N1 hardware does not support API mapping and all we get from the developers's effort like dk_zero-cool, texasice and zyr3x is very lag rom.
Unfortunately I don't see any future on ICS here and I believe that we will stay on GB. hope that the developers will go on and develop new and better CM or sense
ron that based on GB.
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1) This is for general (also, there's already threads about this).
2) This forum is for development, not for opinions.
3) N1 hardware DOES support API mapping, that's not the actual problem with ICS in N1.
4) There's already good ICS roms from developers here. If you're in a hurry to get Google's ICS (its kinda useless to need this imho, since ICS for n1 is quite good enough). Just because google doesn't give ICS to N1, doesn't mean we can't get a stable one. Sense ROMs (all of them) are a good example of this.
try to thing of this. google provided us open source android. so it mean, it is possible to run on any them. look at hp touchpad. now with CM. look at nokia n9 and samsung bada fone. all of them have ported versions of android. If you are just trying to give your opinion then be sure to post it on the right section.
If all these ICS ROMs are laggy, then you're cleary doing something wrong. You should try other setups (kernel, a2sd, developer settings). BCM has been running rock solid and smooth for like 2 months now for me (and many others).
mexus88 said:
I am not sure xda-developers forum is the place to discuss about but now I am almost sure that our N1 will never be getting a real ICS.
I understand now that N1 hardware does not support API mapping and all we get from the developers's effort like dk_zero-cool, texasice and zyr3x is very lag rom.
Unfortunately I don't see any future on ICS here and I believe that we will stay on GB. hope that the developers will go on and develop new and better CM or sense
ron that based on GB.
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Real quick fellas, I've been following the BCM ICS thread and, judging from his posts in there (on top of this thread), please realize Mexus is a pure and unadulterated troll.
He has repeatedly disparaged the efforts of a lot of prominent developers (as well as members) here on XDA in a manner I find to be tremendously disrespectful and ungrateful.
Out of respect for all the hard-working devs here, especially the ICS ones who are giving up so much of their time, I'd like to ask you not to post any more responses in this thread and to not respond to any other rude posts of his you may come across.
Mexus, I hope you'll learn that your attitude does nothing to benefit this community, and that you should work to improve said attitude so that the things you say don't end up being disrespectful, unhelpful, and, ultimately, 100% unnecessary.
@mexus88: You just joined the XDA in April 2012 and already stir the trouble. We would appreciate if you don't post negative comments.
@mexus88: I'm not your opinion.
BCM ist enough fast and almost stable in the newest version.
This is my real ICS, good enough as daily driver.
Guys don't blame mexus88 he is new to this forum..but be + ..ics is almost perfect...one of the ics roms is in alpha..but I see a light in that
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Scheldon said:
Você não entendeu muito bem o conceito de fórum, muito menos desta área.
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This thread was moved from development area. As well, if you had understand it the concept of the forum as you said, you'll be speaking in english right now.
Menelkir said:
This thread was moved from development area. As well, if you had understand it the concept of the forum as you said, you'll be speaking in english right now.
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i like it! ^^
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I thought ports go into Original Development section...
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..
Prawesome said:
I thought ports go into Original Development section...
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..
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Nope, because ports aren't original, now are they?
jacklebott said:
Nope, because ports aren't original, now are they?
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Though not completely...Here goes
The announcement included this
The following are most likely “Original Development”:
Official releases of highly original and upstream customROMs(built fromthe ground up with significant original development within them Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person. Asignificant “first” in development for a device.Significant is subjective, but it is likely something which took considerable time/effort, and is generally accepted by developers to be significant and non-trivial.
Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are notsimply pulled fromother kernels already available.Some element of original work is expected.
Tools and utilities with a clear purpose,and which are well-made,anduseful to users.They should have an element of originality,either inpurpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
Significant portof a ROM from one device to another, givingenhanced features or functionality to users of the targetdevice.The port should be beneficial (a port fromtwo virtually identical devices isn’t original development, it’s winzipping, and nobody really benefits fromthis, as it’s notdevelopment)
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I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..
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Though not completely...Here goes
The announcement included this
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..
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Seems like maybe it's a case by case deal, then.
Prawesome said:
I thought ports go into Original Development section...
I got transformed into a potato while writing this post..
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As jacklebott said, it is case-by-case.
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Thought you'd never arrive. Great to have efrant in here
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I dunno about anyone else, but this is just getting me more excited for this device. This weekend can't go by fast enough!
Hey guys,
I'm very excited to be here and I cant wait to get my hands on this device. I have one question.... more so for clarification than anything else.
Currently, I compile AOKP from source for Maguro and Toroplus then I cherry pick and add in my own changed like bootanimation ect ect...
I planned to do similar work with the Nexus4. Would that type of work be allowed into the dev subforums?
shalkith said:
Hey guys,
I'm very excited to be here and I cant wait to get my hands on this device. I have one question.... more so for clarification than anything else.
Currently, I compile AOKP from source for Maguro and Toroplus then I cherry pick and add in my own changed like bootanimation ect ect...
I planned to do similar work with the Nexus4. Would that type of work be allowed into the dev subforums?
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Yes. Not in Original Development, but in Development yes.
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Great to have you here efrant
Wow, looking through the general section. Mods got this place locked down :good:
Seriously, I like that, hate all the clutter.
Referring by the way, to all the excess threads locked out.
hey guys,
not getting my n4 just yet - over xmas but shall be keeping an eye out and looking forward to being a part of the nexus family as a nexnoob :laugh:
Noooooo not efrant lol
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hey efrant,
why do we need an "original android development" and an "android development"? This has never been an issue with nexus devices.
I understand, for instance, on a samsung device where there is one touchwiz modded rom after another.
on a nexus device, it is ALL original.
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hey efrant,
why do we need an "original android development" and an "android development"? This has never been an issue with nexus devices.
I understand, for instance, on a samsung device where there is one touchwiz modded rom after another.
on a nexus device, it is ALL original.
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Even though we have the full source available, not everything built on that source would be considered "original", despite it being built from source. It has been decided that for something to be "original", it has to be significantly different than what is available. Syncing the AOSP repo, making a couple of changes and then building is not considered "original" for XDA purposes.
Please have a look at this for more clarification.
efrant said:
Even though we have the full source available, not everything built on that source would be considered "original", despite it being built from source. It has been decided that for something to be "original", it has to be significantly different than what is available. Syncing the AOSP repo, making a couple of changes and then building is not considered "original" for XDA purposes.
Please have a look at this for more clarification.
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i agree, but it is not a problem... with the galaxy s2 (where original development originated) it was a huge problem and the development thread was cluttered. it is a great idea for devices of this nature (touchwiz)
But if someone forks cm, cherry picks what they want, and maybe adds a few things of there own...it is still not original, even though it is built from source
(no touchwiz roms are built from source)<<< I know you know this but for people reading that might not*
So with the nexus 4, in original development we are going to have 3 roms (aokp, cm and miui) then kernels and a few misc threads
anyways, seems like a waste. and a solution to a problem that doesn't exist
see <galaxy nexus forum, nexus s forum, nexus one forum>
ogdobber said:
i agree, but it is not a problem... with the galaxy s2 (where original development originated) it was a huge problem and the development thread was cluttered. it is a great idea for devices of this nature (touchwiz)
But if someone forks cm, cherry picks what they want, and maybe adds a few things of there own...it is still not original, even though it is built from source
(no touchwiz roms are built from source)<<< I know you know this but for people reading that might not*
So with the nexus 4, in original development we are going to have 3 roms (aokp, cm and miui) then kernels and a few misc threads
anyways, seems like a waste. and a solution to a problem that doesn't exist
see <galaxy nexus forum, nexus s forum, nexus one forum>
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I agree to a certain extent, and your right, there won't be many ROMs in the Original Development section. (Hopefully there will be more dev discussion threads, which I will certainly allow -- assuming that there is some sort of original development going on. See this and this as examples.)
I spend a lot of time in the GNex forum, and in there, you see tons of very similar ROMs, e.g., deodexed stock ROMs, stock ROMs with busybox, etc., etc. By having an Original Dev section, it will separate those from the real "original" ROMs. And yes, it may not be needed, but it doesn't hurt.
In any case, it was a policy that was implemented site-wide for all new devices.
So since no one seems to be ranting or asking the question about this, then I guess I will. And here's why. I read earlier this past week that LG would be pushing the update for their G3. I figure with that news out there and the idea of tweaking it to work on the G2, that there would be at least a beta out there? I've looked everywhere and I haven't found anything. I'm not sure how hard an LG is to port versus an HTC but I know that there are ports from the One m7, One m8, and One Max that work on the DNA. Anyways, I'm not trying to *****. I'm just curious as to why there isn't anything out yet? I'm ready to test drive the new 5.0 and I don't really like the nexus devices, nor do I have the money to go buy one out right. I'm just really wondering if anyone is even working on this or waiting for it to hit and then will start working on it??
1. I don't think you're allowed to post questions in development forum, ROMs only.
2. The G3 update is not as easy to port as you think as we're missing a kernel. The problem is even more complicated with the Verizon model because we don't have a CDMA Nexus model to base it on. Porting to GSM model can use some help from the existing Nexus 5 kernel. That's what I think.
Well.. I believe that someone(s) is working on a port for the G2. I'm sure that since they're doing it for free and in their spare time, they will release one when they have a "Good, Safe to Flash" version. Since I'm not a developer of any sort and just a very grateful user of their work.. I will continue to wait patiently until they see fit to release it. If I get tired of waiting then I will probably learn how to make one myself. That way I can have it when I want it.
@CoyotesFan4Evr
First and foremost, this is in the wrong section, as stated before. This is not a Q&A forums (see sticky) and at 100 posts, you should know this.
Tim from ose and reven from liquid smooth along with eight other people, two being members working on cm are building cm12 for us.
Twice now it has been leaked, resulting in two broken builds, and doing nothing more then pissing off the guys working on it. It will come when they have it stable.
What? There is no lollipop port for the dna.
Please note the sticky at the top of the Dev forum going forward...
Sticky: ★ ☆ ✰ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting do not go in the Development Section. ✰ ☆ ★
You know I get that everyone isn't trying to be rude about my posting in the wrong section but I'm sorry it came across rude. Yes I have 100 posts or more. However I didn't read the sticky at all because in my opinion of I or someone else should have a root question there isn't a real section for it that is easily noticed called Root: ask your questions here. So I'm personally going to go to the section labeled development and for my carrier and ask those questions. Maybe my brain is wired wrong in the way but to me it seems like common sense. Anyways, I'm done with my polite rant. I appreciate the responses for the information they gave me. I'll just sit back and wait I suppose. I could always play with stuff on my DNA.
@CoyotesFan4Evr
Yeah, I dunno. There's a general Q&A and a Verizon specific Q&A and you're asking a question, so I don't know why it doesn't click.
The reason why you don't ask questions here, is because it would bog the entire forum down with questions versus Roms, and this place is for roms.
I get why I shouldn't have asked my question here. That part clicks just fine mostly anyways. Where it run up on the issue is that it says general questions. I'm a member on another forum and you don't ask general questions about a rooted phone in a section like that. There is a section called all things root for that type of question asking. So I hope the logic of why I asked on this part of the forum makes sense. But for the future I won't post in the wrong section anymore.
Honestly dude just be patient. Some of the Nexus devices are only just now getting the update, and it's going to be a little while longer before we see anything. CM12 is being worked on and we'll get a G3 port a little while after Lollipop hits the G3. I'm foaming at the mouth for L just as much as anyone else, but these things take time.
If you really want to try it out, there's an early CM12 build in the regular Android development forum. It runs but has some bugs on all versions. It's really nice outside of that.
How do I enable WiFi?
Haha, just ****tin' you.