Hi everybody. Before buying this beautiful smartphone, i had a dell streak. On that phone, i used ram manager pro, and in my opinion it worked well. But the note has more memory and a faster processor, so, do you think is a good idea using that program on the note?
never heard of that program, but i dont see the need to use any ram managers, if you need to clear the memory you can do it via the task manager
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Hey folks,
I understand that Android keeps apps in available ram and frees them up as needed, but what I don't understand is how come when I run adv. task killer, there are always apps running that I never loaded (like social hub, email, etc.).
Does the galaxy s load up particular apps based on previous usage history or something?
shadoslayer said:
and frees them up as needed,
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that was the original idea, but in reality it doesn't work that way
chances are you run out of RAM before it frees up anything if at all
the only certain way is to use AutoRunKillers apps and Task Managers apps to keep the software under control
I agree with AllGamer. Yes its supposed to load and unload tasks and services as it needs and thinks it needs but as AllGamer pointed out it doesn't work so well.
The best thing ive found so far and i'm sure it was AllGamer who put me on to this in his recommended apps list, is to use Autokiller Memory Optimizer. You will need to be rooted though, the program tweaks how the already built in task manager works in android. Ive set mine to moderate in the presets of the program, been running it for about a week and its been absolutely great.
The main thing to remember with good task managers and android is that you are not trying to 'free up ram' but to use it more effectively
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Dunno if this is possible, but when I think of windows computers back in the days, it was possible to use som of the harddrive as allocated memory.
Is this possible with the o2x? 512mb seems to be a little low on 2.2.2. Guess it will be better on 2.3... but, in the meantime, is it possible from a rooted o2x to use my internal or external as allocated memory...
I got a sh*tload of apps installed, and is down to 75mb RAM available, and it is getting a bit laggish... I've installed Zeamlauncher, and frozen LG 2.2.2 UI, and other unnessacary apps. But I'm still low on memory
Short answer is no.
Longer answer is if you have 75MB free you don't need any more... that's heaps!
There's no point in having a lot of free ram, you only need as much as the next task wants so that Android doesn't need to swap out memory.
Available ram will not affect performance unless it's lower than ~20MB.
Use autokiller (free on market), it can adjust the android memory config settings.
Functional on LG 2x (root needed)
I just thinks the o2x gets laggier and laggier as days go by
at first it was real fast, but then as it got filles up with apps, its getting slower...
got some quite long hangtimes sometimes. espacially when installing a new app.
This was not the situation in the first couple of days. Had it for about 14 days now, and its not as optimal as in the beginning.
Guess I'll just wait for a custom ROM.
It helps using a taskiller + cache cleaner, but only for a short time
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Use autokiller (free on market), it can adjust the android memory config settings.
Functional on LG 2x (root needed)
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Will try
Do you have some settings for the app, that would be good with the o2x?
Haven't tried this exact app before...
larsn84 said:
Dunno if this is possible, but when I think of windows computers back in the days, it was possible to use som of the harddrive as allocated memory.
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I think that Android has a better (and more specific) memory management technique.
Btw the method you are referring to it's called virtual memory and every modern general purpose operating system uses this memory management technique.
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It helps using a taskiller + cache cleaner, but only for a short time
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Task-killers aren't good with 2.2.2
There's a long explanation as to why, which can be googled.
i encountered a problem that my phone always have low ram even if i just started the phone and have not open any apps. the ram always used up above 200mb out of 304mb. and y is it the overall ram is 304mb instead of 512mb which is stated in the specs of sgs
Hi,
You need to have a look at applications and services.
Check what you running (for example livewallpaper is between 11-20MB, every widget using memory as well) it is the same with services, some of them are useless some of them are not.
From my experience 2.3.3 (without any super modding) using something like 100-120MB. I can tell you that with 3 email accounts (including exchange) and some widget my SGS have free 146MB.
Is hard to say what is causing lack of memory on your phone without knowing what is on it.
Regards,
R
I usually find that lack of ram is from apps running in the background.
I'd suggest getting TaskKiller or ZDBox to kill apps running in the background easily.
Aparently don't quote me I only ready this that the ram is on a flush when needed system I thought ram useage was high try playing game or browse net then kill them and check I found it dropped on jvk jva and now jvh not used jvb gave it a miss
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Hello there. I just wanted to get some advice from windows phone veterans.
I currently own an android device and I want to purchase a secondary phone. My choices are either blackberry or a windows phone 8. Or another android device.
I really want to try windows phone 8 but I'm still hesitant since I've never used any Windows mobile device before.
I also like to install apps and games, that's why blackberry is currently under wp8 on my list right now.
Can someone tell me the advantages and disadvantages of wp8. And, also, will getting a mid tier device like the lumia 620 affect my possible wp8 experience? Aside from being a budget phone, it is the only wp8 phone that I know of that has memory card support. And I need external memory.
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I've been into android for long and currently own s3, I bought the 620 few weeks back from Singapore! It's a pleasant experience & different from android.
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Samsung Ativ S, Nokia Lumia 820 would be the more high end devices that feature SD card expansion support. The Lumia 620 is 512 MB RAM device which some Apps (especially games) do not support (you will not be able to install them). Aside from that a Lumia 620 should be similarily fluid in usage as faster phones.
As for the memory card support: you can only move Music, Pictures and Videos to the SD card. You can not install Apps there or have Apps store their data on the SD card.
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The Lumia 620 is 512 MB RAM device which some Apps (especially games) do not support (you will not be able to install them).
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This is bull I think. Everything I've fed to my "beastly" 620 has worked. So what apps or games in your experience do not work and you've verified not to work?
I use a Lumia 810, having moved from a galaxy s2. Apps seem to the biggest thing to get used to
YouTube - I use Supertube
Tumble - I use blueprints
For an android looking contact manager grab contacts off the store.
UC Browser is a good companion to internet explorer and I've found it quiet useful.
For a live battery meter I use battery meter pro and amazing weather hd for live tile weather.
Snex8x for snes and vga8 for gba roms. I have alot of games and more or less there the same as android offerings.
Hope this helps. No file manager app at all though ?
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I recently bought the 620 after some years of Android budget devices.
All I can say is: it may not be the most dev/ROM friendly operating operating system, but after sorting out the multiple-google-calendar problem (caused by Google!) I must say I'm really happy with it.
Currently sorely lacking:
- dropbox support
- no app for my bank (ING) where there was one for Android and iOS
I really like the way social networking is integrated in this OS.
Some small issues I see:
- idiotic implementation of sms delivery confirmation (you get an sms back instead of a checkbox in the sent sms)
- only one volume setting
My previous smartphones were:
- original Samsung Galaxy (piece of crap)
- LG P500 (loved it and still like it a lot. Girlfriend's phone at the moment.)
- Sony Xperia Mini Pro (loved it, dropped it, screen broke. Will keep it for modding.)
I hope this helps...
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This is bull I think. Everything I've fed to my "beastly" 620 has worked. So what apps or games in your experience do not work and you've verified not to work?
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http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/real-soccer-2013/9b794ec2-7d92-43ed-b085-b2dc54d739e1
Currently have a Windows Phone 7.5 device (Focus 2); now have a 620 on the way. For me, the main difference is that iOS and Android are all about the apps. You go to an app for Facebook, an app for twitter, an app for contacts, an app for e-mail, etc.
Windows Phone bakes all this in. It's People Hub, for example, is a contacts list, but it's more a communications center where you can see your friends messages, Tweets, and Facebook posts without having to jump around to a lot of different apps. It's smarter and you get more out-of-the-box, before you even install your first app. (It used to take me two days to get a new Android phone set up with the right apps and widgets to make it usable - a new Windows Phone is ready to go as soon as I've added my Google, Hotmail, Facebook and Exchange accounts.)
The DISADVANTAGE is that your favorite apps may not be available on WP. There will likely be lots of apps that do what your old app did, but if you want that old familiar Instagram (for example), it's not there... yet. Also if customization is your thing, look elsewhere. WP is focused on making your phone as functional as possible rather than as unique as possible. (Not that there's anything wrong with that; it's just a different approach.)
I encourage you to give it a try. As with any new OS, it helps if you have a friend around that already has WP and can show you the ropes. The Microsoft visual interface is very clean, modern, and spare. Which is another way of saying that there aren't a lot of visual clues that will guide your through finding your way around. Fifteen minutes with a buddy is invaluable.
StevieBallz said:
Samsung Ativ S, Nokia Lumia 820 would be the more high end devices that feature SD card expansion support. The Lumia 620 is 512 MB RAM device which some Apps (especially games) do not support (you will not be able to install them). Aside from that a Lumia 620 should be similarily fluid in usage as faster phones.
As for the memory card support: you can only move Music, Pictures and Videos to the SD card. You can not install Apps there or have Apps store their data on the SD card.
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It seems 512 MB ram is enough for %95 of applications and %75 of games now.
But big problem is on disk storage. My Lumia 620 has 8 GB (7.28 GB usuable) disk storage You cannt install applications to the SD card.
Temple Run won't run on 512 MB devices, Asphalt 7 Heat did not work until a recent Update. The newest version of Tune In Radio does not work (only the older Nokia specific version). The list goes on with the recent releases of Batman and Spiderman.
Sometimes there are updates that make it work on lower memory devices. This is blocked through the Store so you won't be able to install them if the developer opted out of it.
It simply is something to keep in mind when opting for a low - midrang WP8 device. It's not that different on Android though (some Apps don't support all resolutions, etc.).
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Hello there. I just wanted to get some advice from windows phone veterans.
I currently own an android device and I want to purchase a secondary phone. My choices are either blackberry or a windows phone 8. Or another android device.
I really want to try windows phone 8 but I'm still hesitant since I've never used any Windows mobile device before.
I also like to install apps and games, that's why blackberry is currently under wp8 on my list right now.
Can someone tell me the advantages and disadvantages of wp8. And, also, will getting a mid tier device like the lumia 620 affect my possible wp8 experience? Aside from being a budget phone, it is the only wp8 phone that I know of that has memory card support. And I need external memory.
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I have been using Lumia 620 for a few days now. I am extremely happy with it, Alhamdulillah. I have used two budget androids before (SE Xperia mini pro and Micromax A25). I liked the customization of android, but you have admit it, you don't really need to customize your phone every day. The brilliantly simple UI of WP8, the coherent look on all apps and the buttery-smooth performance - I am enjoying a new level of smartphone experience. I know there are androids that will give me similar smoothness, but they are pricey. I didn't find any android (or apple for that matter!!) that could match the performance at this price point as Lumia 620 does.
Hi ,
I have andorid right now , and looking forward to buy an windows phone 8.
i have android having 512 mb ram. im looking forward to buy Nokia lumia 520. also have 512 ram.
i want to know how much the windows phone allow to use ram. will all apps will work on it like on android. doesnt matter , i only want some apps like viber , whats app and fb to work in background.
Should i buy ram 512 mb phone ?
shanalikhan said:
Hi ,
I have andorid right now , and looking forward to buy an windows phone 8.
i have android having 512 mb ram. im looking forward to buy Nokia lumia 520. also have 512 ram.
i want to know how much the windows phone allow to use ram. will all apps will work on it like on android. doesnt matter , i only want some apps like viber , whats app and fb to work in background.
Should i buy ram 512 mb phone ?
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if "to work in background" means you want to get push notificiations then: yes and no. windows phone 8's push service is a mess, even if your phone had 512GB of RAM, facebook won't push anything.
Eh? The WP7 version of Facebook did push just fine with 512MB. Not sure about the WP8 version but it *could* work.
Facebook and Twitter and so on will do their integration thing just fine without apps or push notifications anyhow.
With that said, there are definitely apps that won't run on 512MB WP8 devices, but not many, and they're mostly the really big fancy graphically intensive games that the Lumia 520's CPU/GPU would probably struggle with anyhow (not sure if you're aware, but it's basically the entry-level WP8 device).
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Eh? The WP7 version of Facebook did push just fine with 512MB. Not sure about the WP8 version but it *could* work.
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The push service of the facebook app was (and still is) a horrible mess. It generally worked, with the exception of message notifications. I never received any message notifications at all, only if someone liked my status, posted in a group etc. Those worked reliable, though.
i heard the in Wp8 , developers are more attracted to set 1GB rams for ther applications. later on they set to 512mb.
so should i buy wp8 with 512mb ? will it run about 85-90% apps ?
512ram on WP8 is like 1gb ram on android its not like android when you run apps just press back until it gets to homescreen and it close all process and it didnt get slow!
how many apps in market is able to run on wp8 , can you estimate , 60% , 70% or 90%
I have htc explorer right now and its working fine on 512mb
Probably well over 90% of apps will run on 512MB phones. The 1GB restriction is mostly only present for high-end games.
There were a few instances of regular Apps not being able to work on 512 MB devices but those got fixed in an update quickly and mostly affected Apps just updated from WP7 to an optimized WP8 version and that had opted out of 256 MB devices on WP7 (so I suppose they forgot to take the limit entry out - it meant "no 256 MB devices" in WP7 but in a WP8-App the same entry limits it to 1 GB devices). Aside from that as has already been said it mostly affected games and quite a lot have been updated to work on 512 MB as well (Asphalt 7 and Temple Run are 2 notable examples).
As for background processing. 180 MB is the maximum a WP8 App may use on 512 MB devices (it was limited to 90 MB max on WP7). There is a set amount of background tasks that can be configured to run that is dependent on the device but regularly scales with the amount of memory available. Apps that are not in the foreground are dormant and are removed from memory if a more recently used App requires the memory. Many Apps like WhatsApp do employ the push service which does not require the actual App to run in the background so those aren't affected by the limitations outlined above.
Phone 8
WP 8 handles less RAM better than Android. This correspondes to the better optimation of the OS.