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Hi all,
I've just bought my first HTC unit ever (Kaiser), which is also my first Windows Mobile Phone (I used PocketPCs since 2001 but with no integrated phone so far), and it seems to have a lot of issues in the areas of "regular phone" functionality.
However, the one that is really freaking me out so far is the whole "Bluetooth audio" area. I'm just wondering whether I would ever be able to get what I want or am I asking too much.
I have 3 Bluetooth audio devices, all of them are dual Headset/Headphone ones: in-car fixed Motorola T605, Jabra BT8010 and Plantronics 590. Now, naturally, I want to use the T605 in the car, Jabra for phone calls only throughout the day and for music occasionally, and Plantronics when I'm in the gym, for both music and occasional incoming phone calls.
I had all this working flawlessly with my SonyEricsson K800i phone: each device connected to the phone automatically when powered up and automatically took over both Headset and Headphone functions. The only minor problem was reconnecting Jabra when stepping out of the car, which required only a short tap on the button.
Now, with Kaiser, things are much more complicated. When a device (any of them) is connected to the phone, both as Headset and Headphones, it works mostly OK, although sometimes there is a problem of sound not coming through the device when an incoming call was answered while playing music. The music is suspended OK, but the sound comes from the phone speaker instead of the respective Bluetooth device. This happens from time to time, not always.
But the biggest problem is the initial connection of a device after another one has already been connected. When I enter my car and fire up the engine, I want the T605 to automatically connect to the phone even if Jabra has already been connected. This I was unable to achieve. Instead, I have to manually disconnect Jabra (by powering it off or temporarily powering off Bluetooth on the phone) and then manually connect the phone with the T605, for both Headset and Wireless Music (two actions required!). Now, for me, this is unacceptable.
Moreover, when I arrive to a destination and want to step out of the car, I have to manually reconnect my Jabra to the Kaiser, again, through the phone’s Bluetooth settings as described above. A short tap on Jabra’s button no longer works for this purpose, in opposite to SE K800i.
Making the long story short, this is completely unacceptable behavior for me, and I haven’t found so far a way to make it the way I need it.
Any advices?
mpogr said:
Hi all,
I've just bought my first HTC unit ever (Kaiser), which is also my first Windows Mobile Phone (I used PocketPCs since 2001 but with no integrated phone so far), and it seems to have a lot of issues in the areas of "regular phone" functionality.
However, the one that is really freaking me out so far is the whole "Bluetooth audio" area. I'm just wondering whether I would ever be able to get what I want or am I asking too much.
I have 3 Bluetooth audio devices, all of them are dual Headset/Headphone ones: in-car fixed Motorola T605, Jabra BT8010 and Plantronics 590. Now, naturally, I want to use the T605 in the car, Jabra for phone calls only throughout the day and for music occasionally, and Plantronics when I'm in the gym, for both music and occasional incoming phone calls.
I had all this working flawlessly with my SonyEricsson K800i phone: each device connected to the phone automatically when powered up and automatically took over both Headset and Headphone functions. The only minor problem was reconnecting Jabra when stepping out of the car, which required only a short tap on the button.
Now, with Kaiser, things are much more complicated. When a device (any of them) is connected to the phone, both as Headset and Headphones, it works mostly OK, although sometimes there is a problem of sound not coming through the device when an incoming call was answered while playing music. The music is suspended OK, but the sound comes from the phone speaker instead of the respective Bluetooth device. This happens from time to time, not always.
But the biggest problem is the initial connection of a device after another one has already been connected. When I enter my car and fire up the engine, I want the T605 to automatically connect to the phone even if Jabra has already been connected. This I was unable to achieve. Instead, I have to manually disconnect Jabra (by powering it off or temporarily powering off Bluetooth on the phone) and then manually connect the phone with the T605, for both Headset and Wireless Music (two actions required!). Now, for me, this is unacceptable.
Moreover, when I arrive to a destination and want to step out of the car, I have to manually reconnect my Jabra to the Kaiser, again, through the phone’s Bluetooth settings as described above. A short tap on Jabra’s button no longer works for this purpose, in opposite to SE K800i.
Making the long story short, this is completely unacceptable behavior for me, and I haven’t found so far a way to make it the way I need it.
Any advices?
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Have you tried the Bluetooth fix on HTC's website?
Asking is easy, searching is hard work for some people it seems. No offence..
I'm using Schap's ROM which is supposed to have this fix built-in.
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I'm using Schap's ROM which is supposed to have this fix built-in.
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Ahh. didn't see that in your first post..
I think you are suffering the same prob as many. Every time a BT device comes out, it never seems to work with what we had before. BT protocols are NOT fixed (The IEEE STILL have not fully implemented a specific proto!), they change faster than we change our devices.
As I said before (without meaning any offence) search the whole forum, many threads have been out on this subject and some advice/fixes or equipment references are out there.
Well, I did search these forums and haven't seen someone referring to the same kind of problems I'm having.
Now, regarding your comment about variety of BT devices... I don't buy that. My SE K800i is 1 year old and works perfectly with this combination of devices.
I have pretty extensive experience with Broadcom/Widcomm BT stack on PC and older models of PocketPC (the one I have is IPAQ 5555) and I suspect these foes are direct derivatives from the fact Kaiser uses MS BT stack, which is much inferior. However, it seems nobody was able to make Broadcom/Widcomm stack work on Kaiser so far...
mpogr said:
Well, I did search these forums and haven't seen someone referring to the same kind of problems I'm having.
Now, regarding your comment about variety of BT devices... I don't buy that. My SE K800i is 1 year old and works perfectly with this combination of devices.
I have pretty extensive experience with Broadcom/Widcomm BT stack on PC and older models of PocketPC (the one I have is IPAQ 5555) and I suspect these foes are direct derivatives from the fact Kaiser uses MS BT stack, which is much inferior. However, it seems nobody was able to make Broadcom/Widcomm stack work on Kaiser so far...
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OK, I'm sorry if you don't. I only tried to help. Seem's you've asked a question and have already formed an opinion to it!!!
I have personal experience of Sony's proprietory connection limitations.
My BT works fine on all my devices....will leave you to others.
Looks like I found a partial solution which makes my life almost perfect...
It seems the real problem is taking over Kaiser from a previously connected device. So, if I switch my Jabra off several seconds before I fire up my car's engine, my T605 is able to connect to it. Same goes the other way around, I can turn off the car engine and then fire up the Jabra several seconds later. In this case all is good.
Looks like the MS BT stack is still ill-implemented though, as, for example, when in active Wireless Music BT connection, the device is unable to discover any other Bluetooth devices or to connect to other device's BT serial interface, which makes using external GPS devices difficult.
This could be a problem for me since my car (Citroen C5) has special anti-radiation coating on its windshield which quite effectively screens the satellite signals. Therefore I came up with a solution of having a BT GPS device permanently located in the car (actually, in the driver's seat back pocket) hardwired to the mains as well as to an external GPS antenna. This setup is effectively beating both reception and start-up time problems.
With Kaiser’s limitation on simultaneous BT connections I’m unable to use this setup anymore. Yes, I could bypass using an additional GPS device by connecting the external antenna to Kaiser’s internal GPS, but this looks like a cumbersome solution as I couldn’t find a Kaiser-compatible mounting with a socket for hardwiring an external GPS antenna.
Luckily for me, I still have my old IPAQ loaded with GPS software which I prefer to use for navigation anyway thanks to its significantly bigger screen
mpogr said:
Looks like I found a partial solution which makes my life almost perfect...
It seems the real problem is taking over Kaiser from a previously connected device. So, if I switch my Jabra off several seconds before I fire up my car's engine, my T605 is able to connect to it. Same goes the other way around, I can turn off the car engine and then fire up the Jabra several seconds later. In this case all is good.
Looks like the MS BT stack is still ill-implemented though, as, for example, when in active Wireless Music BT connection, the device is unable to discover any other Bluetooth devices or to connect to other device's BT serial interface, which makes using external GPS devices difficult.
This could be a problem for me since my car (Citroen C5) has special anti-radiation coating on its windshield which quite effectively screens the satellite signals. Therefore I came up with a solution of having a BT GPS device permanently located in the car (actually, in the driver's seat back pocket) hardwired to the mains as well as to an external GPS antenna. This setup is effectively beating both reception and start-up time problems.
With Kaiser’s limitation on simultaneous BT connections I’m unable to use this setup anymore. Yes, I could bypass using an additional GPS device by connecting the external antenna to Kaiser’s internal GPS, but this looks like a cumbersome solution as I couldn’t find a Kaiser-compatible mounting with a socket for hardwiring an external GPS antenna.
Luckily for me, I still have my old IPAQ loaded with GPS software which I prefer to use for navigation anyway thanks to its significantly bigger screen
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Glad to here you have a resolution (albeit a partial one).
Just one thing, why would you want to connect to an external BT GPS at the same time as your car kit? Can't you get a good enough signal on the internal GPS or is there another reason?
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...Can't you get a good enough signal on the internal GPS...?
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Yes, that's what I wrote in my post above. This antiradiation coating is a real satellite signal killer...
But, IMO, Kaiser's screen is too small for in-car navigation anyway, so having a dedicated unit is always a plus
mpogr said:
Yes, that's what I wrote in my post above. This antiradiation coating is a real satellite signal killer...
But, IMO, Kaiser's screen is too small for in-car navigation anyway, so having a dedicated unit is always a plus
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Sorry, blind AND stupid!
Yes I agree the screen is too small for general use. I have a dedicated GPS in the car and only use the TyTnII as a temporary routefinder whenever needed.
Okay, so lots of people have problems with their bluetooth. I am too. I have a JVC KW-XR810 car stereo and the bluetooth keeps shutting down on one or the other. My questions are:
Does anyone else have this stereo and problem? If so, whats the situation?
Is there a ROM that works flawlessly (or close to) with the bluetooth?
Its odd though, that my headset works perfectly and I didn't have many problems with another stereo I've used. Makes me wonder if its the stereo or the phone. Still, many others have bluetooth problems with this phone...
Thanks for any responses.
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My last 3 phones (including this one) have all worked flawlessly with my Sony MEX-BT3700 head unit. Phone calls, BT dialing, streaming music, all work perfectly.
Yep, same here - AT&T replaced my Captivate under warranty about 2 or 3 weeks ago due to the random shut-down issue. Took the new one home, installed Froyo, and rooted it. Everything works well, except lately I've been getting frequent bluetooth disconnects from my car stereo (Pioneer AVIC-X920BT).
The usual pattern seems to be it's good for about one call, and then shortly after ending that call, I notice that they are no longer connected. I usually turn off BT on the phone (seems to take a while to terminate) and then turn it back on, but it will usually only be good for a single call. It's been frustrating, and I'm leaning toward the problem being on the phone side, since that's where there have been recent changes.
Must be a problem with Stock Froyo. Glad I'm not using it.
I've had this issue with certain roms I was running. I have a Kenwood KDC-X993. So far on CM7 it stayed connected.
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i have the same (or similar) problem with my OEM headunit on a VW Golf. BT randomly disconnects but my music (pandora) still plays through the BT stereo, unless I stop it. Then its completely disconnected and I'll have to reconnect the phone to the car.
annoying but I just deal with it.
I'm running Paragon 6 and have a Dual head unit. I haven't had any disconnect issues, my problem is the crappy Pandora app.
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Yep, same here - AT&T replaced my Captivate under warranty about 2 or 3 weeks ago due to the random shut-down issue. Took the new one home, installed Froyo, and rooted it. Everything works well, except lately I've been getting frequent bluetooth disconnects from my car stereo (Pioneer AVIC-X920BT).
The usual pattern seems to be it's good for about one call, and then shortly after ending that call, I notice that they are no longer connected. I usually turn off BT on the phone (seems to take a while to terminate) and then turn it back on, but it will usually only be good for a single call. It's been frustrating, and I'm leaning toward the problem being on the phone side, since that's where there have been recent changes.
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Same here, I have a Parrot mki system in my car, but I found a workaround that I hope works for you too:
Unpair with the device, and when you re-pair it, when it asks you to synchronize contacts, do not let it. It will bug you every time it connects, but just ignore the requests.
I haven't had a single disconnect since doing this weeks ago.
I've read about the contacts request from other users but it doesn't happen with mine. Another thing, when I lose the connection and I turn off bt one the phone out shuts off. Completely. Pushing the power button does nothing. Holding the volume up and power buttons together for a few seconds seems to restart it but theres no animation. Just the lock screen, media scanner, etc. Maybe its restarting on its own and the button pushing has nothing to do with it. Also, I listened to my bt headset for hours last night with no probs at alI. Idk. Is bt different for head units? I thought it all used the same protocals.
So it seems that its not my head unit, but the phone. Are there any good solutions for us?
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My head unit never asks to download contacts. Could it be that some do because they store that info in order to identify and announce incoming calls? That would mean there's more going on than just a simple BT connection.
Yeah. One post I read said something about it using a data connection the hu for contacts. I have no idea what he was talking about though.
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My head unit have the ability to sync contacts. When I first paired it, the phone asks me for permission and there's a check box to always allow.
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My head unit have the ability to sync contacts. When I first paired it, the phone asks me for permission and there's a check box to always allow.
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The only purpose I can see for this is if the head unit has an integrated nav system. That would allow you to bring up a contact as a nav target independent of the phone.
Okay, gettinging back to my original questions. So far we've established that this is endemic to the captivate, mostly. There have been two replies saying that cm7 and paragon 6 have stable bt connections with head units. I read in another post that axura works as well. This is so frustrating that I'm just about willng to learn how to flash this thing.
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Okay, gettinging back to my original questions. So far we've established that this is endemic to the captivate, mostly.
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We have? My first post says I have zero issues with this on my head unit with my phone on Eclair, Froyo and now Andromeda. If it is a phone issue mine is not suffering from it. Sounds more like it has something to do with head units that store contact data. Mine apparently doesn't.
Hmmm.
Yet in your second post you posited that it must be a Froyo issue.
Regardless of whether it is the phone or OS, a lot of Captivate owners seem to have bt issues of one kind or another with various devices. Maybe this is just a bt issue in general that everyone deals with (not just Captivate owners) and I'm just being sensitive because I haven't had much bt exposure.
Any help is appreciated here. I'm just looking for suggestions on what to do short of buying a new phone or head unit. It would be great if other users experiencing this problem would benefit from the discussion as well.
So far it appears that flashing a different ROM may be a solution but which one? Is there any way to change only the bt stack?
Sorry if that sounded short, but I'm REALLY frustrated with this.
My hu will store contacts as most do these days, but it doesn't ask for them. I don't think the problem is related to the contacts. I guess its just a random incompatibility thing.
I said it "might" be a problem with stock Froyo. I didn't see it the 3 days I was running it and my current ROM is Froyo-based and working without issue. The only other variable I can see is that others posting problems have reported having to deny access to contacts, something my head unit never asks for, in order to get it to work. That would appear to indicate the difference is in the head units and not the phones, but unless I could connect to one of these other head units to verify, I'm only guessing. Sorry.
i notice that if I toggle the bluetooth on my phone right before connecting it to my car, it works flawlessly
Installed a Kenwood X994 and had all kinds of issues with BT. Worked for awhile but would never auto connect. Only vehicle and area where I had BT issues. I realized it was due to the downloading of contacts at every connect. sometimes it would download than immediately disconnect. frustrating. Was on serendipity, Tried a native Cappy ROM, Cognition and now Phoenix..
The unit has the Parrot system in it so it should be ok. Finally decided to update the Firmware on the HU. So far so good. I like the contact download so I don't need to use the phone at all to make a call. Receiving calls is no problem.
Will test further tomorrow.
BTW I have a BT Garmin mounted in the truck and used it before getting the head unit. no problems connecting. The only issue with that was a delay between pressing the call button and the call being made. Hanging up was an issue as well.
Just dropped $100 on a bluetooth accessory for my car called a Tunelink auto (I'm new so I can't post links--just google it.) Of course the thing doesn't work as advertised...when I step out of range of it and then come back into range it connects to my phone but the music doesn't play through the speakers of my car. I've noticed various results with different ROMs, but none work completely 100% right. Anybody have this working? Forums are dead for the Tunelink website and tech support was useless.
I signed up for the Tunelink BETA a while back but didn't get in. However, they gave me 50% off the cost of the device for signing up. Here are my notes:
1. You HAVE to have Bluetooth on before starting your car. The Tunelink will attempt to connect to your phone only once. After that, you have to manually go into BT settings to pair it with the Tunelink.
2. If you are in ACC mode in your car and connected to Tunelink, once you start your engine, the Tunelink will lose its connection and you will have to manually set it again. I believe this is due to the stop and start of the Tunelink being faster than the stop and start of your bluetooth connection.
3. (in response to your question) It looks like from what i've stated above, Tunelink only attempts to pair once, when the engine is started. If you go out of range and come back, you'll have to manually pair it yourself. (i just gave this a second thought. in what situation would you get that far away from your car while it is running? in my city, that is an invitation for someone to drive away with it.)
4. Support has been great for me. I had an issue with my 1st gen Tunelink and they sent me a prepaid shipping label to send it in so they could update the firmware.
Conclusion: The TuneLink is definitely not worth 100 bucks since you can't even make calls through it. Even at the 50 i paid, it was quite a stretch. The nice thing about it, though, is that any phone with a bluetooth connection can play music through it. It may be possible to set up a Tasker event to force pair with the TuneLink once it is in range, but i have not been able to figure it out.
Return it and get the micus blueridge check amazon for the best price on it. You have to connect it but it sounds awesome and works very well
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Hello Everyone I am here to find some answers (hopefully)...
So I got the HTC One Coming from the Iphone 5. I've had numerous Android devices before, and apple products. I just recently also purchased a subaru wrx, it has bluetooth radio. When I had my iphone 5, i synced perfectly with the radio, hands free worked Awesome. When i got into the car my spotify or pandora would immediately start playing..
Now i get my htc one, and i pair my phone with the car, but my hands free audio sounds terrible, i can barely understand what the other person is saying. On top of that i have to manually connect the phone to bluetooth everytime i turn on my car, its very annoying. I have tried many different roms, and kernels, and i even went back to stock but i can't seem what the problem is. I am about to change the radio in the car thinking its not very user friendly with android devices.
If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be awesome. I am pulling my hairs, i love the htc one, but i miss my handsfree bluetooth functionality. I have tried searching the forums, but i haven't found any answers that worked.
I am having the same issue with having to manually confirm the Bluetooth connection in my car. Mines on a Toyota 86 with the GPS in dash, I believe it's made by eclipse who supply Subaru?
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I have to manually connect each time to my bluetooth nakamichi speaker.
I too am having same issues. I also have a 2011 WRX with original radio. With my prior phone (GS2) I connected without problem and automatically every time I started the car. I have to manually connect the HTC one every time. Many others seem to not have this problem with other vehicles, so I'm starting to think it's the Subaru radio not playing nice with the phone. Please post if you find a solution.
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I installed an app called Bluetooth file transfer that fixed the issue somehow.
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I had similar problems in my car with an alpine radio, but with my galaxy s3.
In fact the thing is that when you register a phone on your radio (in my case) the radio just looks for the first one defined and registered to autoconnect.
Now, if in your radio you clear registered devices list, and try to register your htc, i am pretty convinced that it will autoconnect all the time.
Hope it helps,
Regards,
Nicolas.
My HTCone synched immediately with the OEM bluetooth in my 2011 Kia Forte. No problema, in fact, it is a much better connection (clarity) than with the old EVO 4g, which initially required a bit of fiddling to make work. Hands free phone call system on the KIA works very well too. FWIW.
Tobz said:
I installed an app called Bluetooth file transfer that fixed the issue somehow.
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Thanks for that. I sorted out how to BTconnect my HTCone<--> Macbook, but could only do so, one file at a time. The app you mentioned works great (!) and allows me to push multiple files at ne time. Reviews say it is also a great file manager, that I have yet to determine but if so, an added bonus.
I am also having a problem with the HTC One bluetooth in my car. The phone connects to the car’s bluetooth system, pairs properly, although very slow, it uploads the phone book and call history. The problem is the call quality. The people I am calling complain about the sound, they feel the volume is too high and this distorts the sound, as well as there is too much noise added to the voice, or something like that. As soon as I switch to the phone speaker the sound that they hear gets better. This makes me think the bluetooth on this phone sucks. One person suggested the interaction between the noise canceling and main microphone is mixed up, but if I am using my car's sound system it should not use the phone's microphones anyway, or maybe it does? I guess what I am trying to say is that when I am using the car's stereo it should use only the car's microphones and speakers , but sound like the phone noise canceling microphone is still active.
If anybody has ideas for fixes, or suggestion for further tests, I will do it.
P.S. I didn't have any problems with my car's bluetooth with my iPhone 4 or Nexus 4.
Same for me. Sometimes the problem disappears. I assume the problem comes from the BTstack. In fact, the one is the only Android phone I know that use a different BT stack than blueZ. This stack is HTC one. It allows us having avrcp 1.3 (The name of the song displayed on our car audio). I hope the HTC one Google edition use blueZ stack. I will try a Rom based ion that. If the problem disappears, it will confirm the problem come from HTC stack.
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I am also having a problem with the HTC One bluetooth in my car. The phone connects to the car’s bluetooth system, pairs properly, although very slow, it uploads the phone book and call history. The problem is the call quality. The people I am calling complain about the sound, they feel the volume is too high and this distorts the sound, as well as there is too much noise added to the voice, or something like that. As soon as I switch to the phone speaker the sound that they hear gets better. This makes me think the bluetooth on this phone sucks. One person suggested the interaction between the noise canceling and main microphone is mixed up, but if I am using my car's sound system it should not use the phone's microphones anyway, or maybe it does? I guess what I am trying to say is that when I am using the car's stereo it should use only the car's microphones and speakers , but sound like the phone noise canceling microphone is still active.
If anybody has ideas for fixes, or suggestion for further tests, I will do it.
P.S. I didn't have any problems with my car's bluetooth with my iPhone 4 or Nexus 4.
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BT problem
Hi,
I'm also having a problem with my BT while paired to the BT in my awesome Volkswagen sirocco.
I don't see any contact or missed calls or recent calls. The log is empty.
Any help will be much appreciated.
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Hello Everyone I am here to find some answers (hopefully)...
So I got the HTC One Coming from the Iphone 5. I've had numerous Android devices before, and apple products. I just recently also purchased a subaru wrx, it has bluetooth radio. When I had my iphone 5, i synced perfectly with the radio, hands free worked Awesome. When i got into the car my spotify or pandora would immediately start playing..
Now i get my htc one, and i pair my phone with the car, but my hands free audio sounds terrible, i can barely understand what the other person is saying. On top of that i have to manually connect the phone to bluetooth everytime i turn on my car, its very annoying. I have tried many different roms, and kernels, and i even went back to stock but i can't seem what the problem is. I am about to change the radio in the car thinking its not very user friendly with android devices.
If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be awesome. I am pulling my hairs, i love the htc one, but i miss my handsfree bluetooth functionality. I have tried searching the forums, but i haven't found any answers that worked.
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I am having the same issue...I had the Motorola Atrix 4g and it paired immediately with my Pioneer deck. That phone always reconnected and like you mentioned, pulled up Pandora etc. Now I have the HTC One, and it paired and connected but it refuses to play audio. Handsfree works (kinda sloppily, also like you mentioned), but the Media Audio portion doesn't work even though the phone reports that it is connected. My stereo says no device detected when I switch to BT Audio. I hope you find a resolution to this issue, I have searched everywhere and of course I saved the best for last and decided to finally check here @ XDA.
I posted earlier in the thread that I was having difficulties pairing my One with my Subaru WRX factory radio. I could not get it to automatically connect with the phone each time I started the car. I could manually get it to connect but that was a pain every time I got in the car. I was able to solve my issue by deleting every other pairing the radio had with other prior phones. I deleted any pairing my One had previously and then paired it with the car radio before any other device. It now connects regularly every time I start the car, and both audio and phone functions work perfectly. I would recommend anyone having blue-tooth issues to try the same. The Subaru radio also had a weird menu system that was different whether I was pairing the phone by using voice commands or trying to do it with physical buttons on the radio. Very confusing but going through the hands free voice command menu seemed to pair both audio and phone functions, where I could only pair audio functions when using the physical buttons on the radio. Seemed like two different systems.
Been having crappy noise issues with my 09 Acura TSX. I emailed HTC regarding this problem but, of course, their response was to 'check with the car manufacturer'. Will try that method and see how it goes.
My problem is a bit different. My htc One connects flawlessly with my JVC unit that too automatically. But it keeps disconnecting and reconnecting. And that is a major issue. The phone also gets insanely hot in this process and today the OS crashed two times and i had to do a Hard Reset.
I am coming from an iPhone 5 on which bluetooth streaming was flawless.
Anyway to stop the auto-disconnect and re-connect going on.
My Bluetooth is mess up.
It can pair up, but the Address Book is not showing up on the car screen menu now. I don't know what happened. When I play music on my phone to the Bluetooth in the car, it is silence.
Does anyone know what is going on?
HTC One Bluetooth Problem in BMW
I am having the same problem.
My HTC One connects, I can make calls from the phone and the calls are clear, but I cannot see my contacts.
I have emailed HTC and they say it is the car (BMW 5 series). I have checked with BMW and there isn't an update for my car available. I am therefore, using the latest software. I previously used the HTC sensation which worked fine in the same car.
I am wondering if one could install an older version of the Bluetooth and A2DP software as the those on the HTC One do not work in my car and I cannot see BMW developing any updates and if they did, the cost could be as much as the phone.
Would appreciate any help
HTC One Bluetooth CONTACT Problem in BMW !!!SOLVED!!!
ulticomp said:
I am having the same problem.
My HTC One connects, I can make calls from the phone and the calls are clear, but I cannot see my contacts.
I have emailed HTC and they say it is the car (BMW 5 series). I have checked with BMW and there isn't an update for my car available. I am therefore, using the latest software. I previously used the HTC sensation which worked fine in the same car.
I am wondering if one could install an older version of the Bluetooth and A2DP software as the those on the HTC One do not work in my car and I cannot see BMW developing any updates and if they did, the cost could be as much as the phone.
Would appreciate any help
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I can now see my contacts after more than a month!
I did many things, some of which I do not believe had anything to do with the process required.So I will stick with the main points and if this does not work I will include all that I can remember.
I unpaired all phones in the car (including the HTC One)
Pair the HTC One
Look out for the message BMW wants......................... contacts
Select yes
Wait for the contacts to load, this took a couple of minutes at least.
The credits goes to another post somewhere on this forum!!:crying:
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Been trying to find out for the longest time the definite set of codecs that the One supports over bluetooth. Besides SBC and AptX, does it also support MP3 and AAC??
The reason I'm asking is that I'm coming from a (company supplied) iphone and have been generally very happy with the bluetooth audio quality to my car's audio system (Audi) and Bose Soundlink Mini speaker. I know for sure the iphone supports AAC and due to the quality suspect it is used in both cases.
The Bose at least does *not* support AptX, however getting a definite codec list for the Bose is also impossible. I only managed to find buried in the offfical bluetooth certification pages that it is a BT2.1 device.
Why do all these manufacturer's hide this documentation?
Very disappointed to find out that the Bose Soundlink Mini negotiates a link with the HTC One using SBC...
These are both premium devices for which top dollars are paid, and they still shovel this **** on me.
I'm not sure on where to place the blame here, HTC for only(???) supporting AptX next to SBC, or Bose for only supporting SBC(???)
As mentioned, both are not transparent in their devices capabilities - isn't there an app to find out these things?
Beats is at least more clear: "Bluetooth 2.1 audio and supports SBC, aptX, AAC Codecs for high quality streaming"
Hey All,
I've done a quick and dirty search for this problem, but I haven't found anything that's exactly the same.
I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
I have done the unpair/re-pair thing a couple of times, but nothing changes.
I had an HTC phone before this, and it'd reconnect automagically to my cars BT server, so I suspect it's nothing to do with the car's BT radio. I really miss that...
Thanks for any suggestions anyone might have in how to remedy this. Fwiw, I'm willing to go through a diagnostic procedure if someone would clue me in to just how to do that.
cheers,
john
I've had issues with the bluetooth and pairing. When I was on 4.2.2 (I think..) it wouldn't connect automatically at all, and I used an app to connect for me. I have a Chevrolet Cobalt and it wouldn't connect to my built in bluetooth for calls or a small bluetooth dongle that I use for playing music through the AUX input on the stock radio.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.myklos.btautoconnect&hl=en
Once I was on 4.4.2 it seemed to work much better. I have no real issues now on 4.4.4. The only time I notice it not really working right is when I try to connect to the bluetooth speaker in our bathroom at home. If I turn the speaker on, it almost always connects to my girlfriends phone nearly instantly, even though I open the bluetooth menu and tap the paired device to manually initiate right when I turn on the speaker. It usually takes me a few tries to get mine to connect before hers, or I ask her to shut her bluetooth off for a moment while I connect. She uses the speaker every day because she leaves for work after me, so it only happens to me 1-2 times per month on the off chance that I want to listen to music or a baseball game in the shower, so it never really bothered me much.
I think the bluetooth radio in this phone could be better.. I never had any similar issues with my Droid X or Moto Razr Maxx so I'm not sure what the deal is...
Edit: forgot to mention I also have an XT1060, but not dev edition. My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted, but using the official 4.4.4 VZW rom with Xposed.
I have never had any issues pairing Bluetooth - on either my car or moto 360 watch (even simultaneously).
However, I have noticed that the Bluetooth connects much quicker on custom ROMs when compared to stock.
I think tour connection issue may be a setting or rogue app related.
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Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
jrredho said:
Thanks to both of you for your replies!
Fwiw, things have not gotten any better since I posted my question. I'm getting more accustomed to it, though.
As for the possibility of a rogue app, yes I suppose so, but short of uninstalling everything, and adding them one by one and trying to connect to something via BT, how can someone go about debugging such a thing?
cheers,
john
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You may need to delete the profile for the Bluetooth pairing in your car. Could be a conflict there.
Otherwise, try looking at your Bluetooth settings on the phone.
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jrredho said:
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I have an XT1060, Dev Ed, on KK 4.4.4, and I'm just wondering, am I the only one who cannot get my bluetooth radio to hook up to paired devices easily?
The problem is, I always have to ask to connect manually; this is a bit of a pain, especially after turning off my car, say, for a few seconds. Oh, it'll connect, but sometimes it takes 10-15 tries before that connection is made, and even then, it's often after I have to disconnect then attempt to reconnect a few times because it doesn't connect both the phone and media modes.
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Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
KidJoe said:
Is it *ALL* bluetooth devices, or just the car? What model and year car? Are you connecting to the Hands Free profile, Headset Profile, or doing something like A2DP for music streaming?
How long have you had the phone, how long has this been a problem? Has the symptom ever changed?
Keep in mind, just because your HTC phone connected to the car just fine, doesn't mean the car could not be the issue. While the Bluetooth profiles and protocols should be "standard" I've seen many issues of interoperability issues between bluetooth devices over the years. Especially with car kits.
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Guys, thanks for staying with me on this. One thing I've definitely learned is that the bluetooth thing is something I'm pretty ignorant on. I can see that I'm going to have to study it a bit before too long. Gad, that HTC spoiled me rotten---at least in that way.
I haven't tried the phone with any other BT devices. This is mostly because I don't own but two, the car and a travel speaker, and I haven't had the speaker out of its case since I scored the phone six or eight weeks ago. Also, I did some housecleaning, so I have only a small fraction, maybe 20%, of the same apps on the MotoX that I had on the HTC. I have no apps on the MotoX that I didn't have on the latter.
As for some of the car-related suggestions, it's a 2015 Subaru Forester Premium 2.5i, which is really only level up from the base model of that line. I can't find that there is a bluetooth profile setting in the car that I can change; I think that it's too basic. The relevant user manual simply states the following:
Media format
Bluetooth audio devices cannot be
connected if they are not compatible with
the following Bluetooth® profiles.
. A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution
Profile)
. AVRCP (Audio/Video Remote Control
Profile)
I don't even know what either of those mean!
Anyway, what I did do is go to the phone settings, and uncheck the Media box that shows up once the car's BT server is detected. Then I try to connect with the Phone box checked. It'll still fail to connect several times, but (a) it doesn't take as long to fail to connect, (b) it doesn't take as many tries (it seems) to make the connection, and (c) when it fails, it fails totally, so I don't have to disconnect from 'Media-only Connected (No Phone)' connection. That makes it easier I suppose. Then once the connection is established, it's a simple matter to go back to settings, and check the Media box. That add-on connection happens pretty quickly, but the process is still a little overwrought, imo.
Of course, KidJoe, up until you mentioned a Headset Profile, I didn't know one existed. But when I try to play music on my phone using PowerAmp, well, the app doesn't hook up to the BT anyway. That's a key difference between the HTC and the MotoX. In PowerAmp, I have "Play over Bluetooth on Detection" selected. The headset isn't being detected at all. So maybe that goes some distance to explaining what I'm encountering.
Again thanks to both of guys for hanging in there with me! I'll keep trudging "onward through the fog," as it were...
cheers,
john
A2DP and AVRC are used for Bluetooth Stereo audio streaming (like playing Pandora on your phone via your car stereo). Not phone calls.
For phone calls, usually a Headset or Handsfree profiles are used, and sometimes BT Phone Book Access (so you can see your phone's contact names/numbers on the car's screen).
I've run into compatibility issues between some phones and some Headset/Handfree devices (mostly cars, but a few bluetooth headsets too). Often times when this happens, you're stuck. Each side will blame the other (i.e. Moto will blame the Subaru car stereo, and Subaru will blame the phone).
I have had issues re-connecting to my car (a 2011 Saab 9-4x with Bose/Nav), IF I had my Moto S11 Flex HD headset connected to my Moto X before I got in the car (even if the S11 was powered off/disconnected from the X before I started the car). Usually toggling the X's bluetooth off/on, and sometimes worst case rebooting the phone, has always fixed it.. Another time I had troubles connecting to my Saab's car kit was when my wife was using her phone to stream audio. The next time I got in the car, I had to manually connect my phone. The car always tries to connect to the the last phone used, so it was looking for my wifes and it took a while before it timed out. When it did time out, it didn't look for mine.
Since you have a 2015 Subaru, I would consider visiting your car dealer, ask them to help with pairing the phone properly, and making sure its working right. See what they have to say.
My bluetooth in my car stopped pairing the other day, and it turns out it was an app that updated and requested permissions related to bluetooth. I didn't notice them because it's an app I trust so I accepted the new permissions without really looking at it.
I used App Settings (Xposed module) to disable the permissions and my bluetooth works fine again.
I could still pair with things if I went to the bluetooth paired device list and manually tapped on the device I wanted to connect with, but it would not pair automatically (like when I got in my car). Once I disabled that permission, it started working again without issue.
May be worth a look through your installed apps to see if anything has access to bluetooth and may be interfering.
Hey All,
Thanks again for the continued help!
It's true, I didn't do any research on app interference before I posted this thread topic, but since a couple of you have brought it up, I decided to do a little research. I installed a permissions app, and took a look at the permissions that allows an app to automatically seek out, and pair with, Bluetooth servers. I have to admit, I got some surprises there. (Who would've thought that Beautiful Widgets needed that permission; it is now gone.)
Anyway, most of the remaining apps are either system/Moto-related, or ones I would really like to keep. I'll report back on what I learn. If there are other permissions that I need to reference besides the two pairing-connecting to Bluetooth ones please let me know...
cheers,
john