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Can't believe we were anxiously awaiting this..

Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.

rootbrain said:
Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Google doesn't care.. Remember when 4.1.1 broke a bunch of paid apps by sticking them in the asec folder which wasn't mounted at startup? So since it wasn't mounted Android never saw the apps during boot and paid keyboards and widgets disappeared after a reboot. MONTHS went by before it was addressed. Meanwhile developers of those paid apps had angry customers and money lost because of Google
This will be the same song and dance.. Google is getting very sloppy with development and communication with developers pre-release seems to not exist.

I love it.
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Stop stereotyping. People are always so quick to hate on Americans. Yes there are bad Americans...but every country has them. Even your country. But I'm not going to go there since I happen to like most people from the UK that I've encountered...it would be unfair to label your entire nation as arrogant, ungrateful, and judgmental because of your behavior.
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leelaa said:
I love it.
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Seriously how is the "I love it" on topic or not a personal feeling?
Anyway thanks for the clean up
But still I agree with the OP. Google is becoming arrogant, sloppy and in its quest to be more user friendly making fiends of the ppl that were with them from version 1.

So what is the problem? I am only one person using my nexus and I haven't run into any issues.
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4.2 works fine for me. A few bugs here and there but you can't expect everything to be perfect. Google getting arrogant? Please. Sloppy? I'd say they are spread a bit thin with all the projects they have going on.
Google is run by humans. Android developers are humans. Humans make errors. Not too complicated.
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well its not about the bugs, bugs can be forgiven.
System works fine...
Its about their behavior
For me personally that I can't mount my USB stick, or lost tablet mode means that I downgraded to 4.1.2 back.

Today is Thursday. The sun will still shine Friday
Humm ..
Its called growing pains. Sometimes you have to take a STEP Back to move two bigger steps foreword. I see so much talk about this is not there that is buggy. Yes we get it.. But what i am seeing mostly is app compatibility Being Broke.. This is something that will be fixed Quickly by most Developers.
Android is and always will be "A WORK IN PROGRESS". My opinion only but if you want bland and safe sell your nexus 7 to me for .50 cents and get a ipad mini.
People who are having issues Please go to the developers web site and let them know your app is not working properly .Give them exact details. You can do the same to google at groups.google.com. Just be Patient
Now my GRIPE The multi user cluster (word here im not typing) as others said was not well though through by google. My guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
Take a deep breath relax and say to yourself.. Its only a tablet its only a tablet its only a toy tablet... ..
Thanks for Reading... :fingers-crossed:

I suppose YMMV, but I love 4.2. Smoother than 4.1, and nice features. The only thing that really seems half-assed is the multiuser support.

What is your problem with multi-user? For me and my daughter it is working great - could not be better.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
Performance is good - all our preferences and accounts are separated - and I really can't think of any other features I would want.

I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
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I haven't played with multi-user yet, can you add the account just for the play store and not have someone access the gmail account associated with it?
That's my gripe, I want to be able to for ex, have my nephew play with my tablet and all the games etc, but don't want him to access to my gmail etc. I thought this was perfect for that but then read about the app issue. Also, I assume there is no type of limited user, in that a secondary account can still uninstall apps, but at least they can't delete files from the other users home dir.

Yes - my account is just added to my daughter's play store. Open play store and look at add account option.
Works perfectly to give her access to the apps we share.
NO shared Gmail.
Forgot something important:
When you add a second account to play store, you are given a bunch of items you can synch, like contacts.
Uncheck them all!
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i had a valid post in this thread, it seems to have been removed ........yet you left the dude saying "love it".
cheers for that :confused
and im sorry but why has this guy just been thanked by 10 people? the post has nothing to do with anything...... shenanigans shenanigans i tells ya!!:silly:

Stick mount wasn't a feature of 4.1. It was hacked in which is why you had to be rooted and use an app. You'll get USB support again. Multiuser support screwed with the storage. That's all.
New tweaks are a little rough around the edges but will be smoothed out soon enough. Give it time, damn guys. I personally think its no better or worse then 4.1.2. We just have a few new toys now.
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4.2 = 1st time I've truly experienced "butter"...
Sure, I kinda miss the bells & whistles I had on Codename Android, and I'll definitely check out any forthcoming 4.2 updates, but scrosler's stock, rooted, deodexed ROM is far & away the smoothest, quickest ROM I've used on any Android device. Stock kernel, no tweaks, plain vanilla is for me for now. Way better Google experience. OK, I sideloaded the AOSP browser for Flash, but that's it. Chrome is much more responsive on 4.2 than 4.1.2 - Everything is noticeably quicker - I even detect better wireless response. Your results may vary, but I'm not going back!

[/COLOR]If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Am I the only one that has multiple apps that crash and all kinds of problems? Hell even the Youtube app crashes, i am so pissed i want a refund on this tablet they ruined or i want 4.1.2 back grrrrrrrrrr
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If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?

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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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Yes
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erica_renee said:
HMy guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
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Well, I do belive that you are right. I also feared (and expected, to tell the truth) that something EXACTLY like this would happen. I tried NOT to update the system, but why the hell did they keep forcing it when we obvoiusly do not want it? And probably, they must have known that it will broke a lot of things...
Just to explain: for me, there was a message with three buttons: upgrade, more info (which leads to seme text and bigger "upgrade" button and "later", but that "later" means only "ask at next screen unlock" which made the tablet realy hard to use. So, what choice have I had?

Very clever Samsung, A light went on with me today

when you search the internet the Galaxy Gear gets bad press and its nuts, I was a little put off buying one at the start but decided yesterday to spend the cash as I am in Brisbane Australia for 3 weeks of training then back to NZ, I when I first brought my gear (yesterday) went to try some notifications and thought what the hell Samsung why would I want a notification that means I then had to open my phone.......... now think about this
Samsung is NOT some back yard designer/manufacture but a multi discipline very very big company, did you know they build heavy Industries?
So now we know Samsung is a very clever bunch of people... why would they sell a product with such a negative response from the public?
My answer to this came today when I upgraded my Gear to the latest firmware version and suddenly ALL the things we wanted were present, think about this.... how hard was it for Samsung to add this extra features? SIMPLE... so why release it without it?
NEGATIVE ADVERTISING IS THE CLUE
If you think about the amount of coverage this has given Samsung in a very short time well....... and they fix it with a simple update? perfect marketing!!
Oh and im very happy with my gear including the price, it will exponentially improve over the next few months

Also look at the thread count and posts in the smart watch section, another thing you see comments out there stating its useless without a phone.... well yes you need to do the initial setup, but its got a built in clock, when you turn off your phone, or flatten it...it still keeps time

samsung is great at making hardware, but i can't think of any part of the software that i really appreciate. i would love if they just stick to releasing new devices itself running pure android.

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samsung is great at making hardware, but i can't think of any part of the software that i really appreciate. i would love if they just stick to releasing new devices itself running pure android.
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yes I can agree with that, its better to be an open market for this sort of thing

Samsung with the latest update is wayyyy ahead of sony smartwatch witch is on the 3th generation. They launched the gear without some of the improuvments because they WANTED baddly to be the first, before Apple. What i don't understand is why samsung is not sending again the gear to be reevaluate by tech media after the last update.
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samsung was in a rush to release the watch so they can paten so apple wont sue them

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Samsung with the latest update is wayyyy ahead of sony smartwatch witch is on the 3th generation. They launched the gear without some of the improuvments because they WANTED baddly to be the first, before Apple. What i don't understand is why samsung is not sending again the gear to be reevaluate by tech media after the last update.
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because they dont need to, they will let the internet just flow into it.......

for a moment there I thought you were going to refer to some sort of flash light using the gear hahaha.

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when you search the internet the Galaxy Gear gets bad press and its nuts, I was a little put off buying one at the start but decided yesterday to spend the cash as I am in Brisbane Australia for 3 weeks of training then back to NZ, I when I first brought my gear (yesterday) went to try some notifications and thought what the hell Samsung why would I want a notification that means I then had to open my phone.......... now think about this
Samsung is NOT some back yard designer/manufacture but a multi discipline very very big company, did you know they build heavy Industries?
So now we know Samsung is a very clever bunch of people... why would they sell a product with such a negative response from the public?
My answer to this came today when I upgraded my Gear to the latest firmware version and suddenly ALL the things we wanted were present, think about this.... how hard was it for Samsung to add this extra features? SIMPLE... so why release it without it?
NEGATIVE ADVERTISING IS THE CLUE
If you think about the amount of coverage this has given Samsung in a very short time well....... and they fix it with a simple update? perfect marketing!!
Oh and im very happy with my gear including the price, it will exponentially improve over the next few months
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Also, the negative publicity because of the non-availability of key features on a device that's hardware specs should allow, makes developers naturally want to get their hands on it and fix these problems, then what does Samsung have, a bigger developer following to help enhance this newer device form factor so they can be the first on the front lines with the most development, so they can set themselves as the main smart watch manufacture, so they can control more of the market, in short, they peoples at the Samsung do da business sneaky and outs o dey own greed like a de apple butt-a-heads (but not nearly as selfish and unconcerned about the true advancement of technology as the advancement of their own wallet) Lolz on rants but it's true.

Mate please learn to spell and write properly
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Dollar for Calculator app!

The lack of apps and not being able to sideload is irritating right now but I believe when development progresses we will get these things. I refuse to pay a dollar for a calculator app or 2048. I would like to have them on my watch but think they are taking advantage. I just gave samsung 200 dollars, they should provide more free useful apps.
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So you want Samsung to develop free apps for you because you paid $199 for the watch?
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Legacy2385 said:
So you want Samsung to develop free apps for you because you paid $199 for the watch?
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Some... yes. A calculator should be stock. What's with the attitudes on here today? If they are going to compete with android, they are going to want to develop a lot more apps.
P.s. And over the years, I have given them a couple of thousand. I've been very loyal to samsung.
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Some... yes. A calculator should be stock.
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I agree, man. I love some of the stock apps, for example, the remote app, but a calc app should be default too. I would consider paying for the calc app if it at least had a percentage option.

You can sideload apps, it's just that there are no apps to sideload. I'm sure samsung will provide us with a a calculator just as they provided a sleep app which wasn't available before the weekend
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azpatterson3 said:
Some... yes. A calculator should be stock. What's with the attitudes on here today? If they are going to compete with android, they are going to want to develop a lot more apps. P.s. And over the years, I have given them a couple of thousand. I've been very loyal to samsung. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527
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You can sideload apps, it's just that there are no apps to sideload. I'm sure samsung will provide us with a a calculator just as they provided a sleep app which wasn't available before the weekend Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk
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Completely agree with azpatterson3, the calculator is the symbol for the problem! It's not the dollar for the an app. I like many always try to buy the dev's paid apps and I have hundreds of apps stuck on play to prove it! However, for Tizen we have (almost) only that one app (not counting the nascent watch face efforts, and Glympse). Morover, a basic calculator app is the type of app that every single beginning developer publishes for free just to get started! Samsung marketing this in their new Tizen store is . . . .puzzling! The irony is thick!
I do accept polish_pat's point too. There will be a free calculator, more watch faces and more. . . everything. Hopefully many created by outside devs that we can side load. But waiting is really, really frustrating.
Reminds me of when I bought a Motorola Atrix some years back (don't even remember which model right now!) I and many others were waiting and waiting for development on roms --it was painfully slow and limited. I felt like I won the lotto when I switched to samsung and found the rich, and fast development that hit all their galaxy (and note) phones.
However, with our Neo we're back in Matrix territory again. . .waiting for the developers to cross the river and setup shop. It won't be as fast since the population of users is much smaller, probably won't be as rich either. Fortunately, this is only a watch
As for Samsung leading any development surge, well, that would be great. but I suspect they will focus on ensuring the NEo has everything that is out there for other smart watches health bands and that's about it.
Moreover, if the way mucked up the S-Health/ Fitness for Gear approach is any model for how they will go forward, then we truly are going to be stuck in a mediocre app environment. I really hope they get better than that!
Still, I am enjoying what the Neo has now -- the (limited) sleep app, the telephony (great!), text messages and even S voice is pretty good for some searches and messaging for me (so far). Although more than once I have had to nervously say "cancel message" in a panic after looking at what my watch and S voice interpreted my words to be! )

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I do accept polish_pat's point too. There will be a free calculator, more watch faces and more. . . everything. Hopefully many created by outside devs that we can side load. But waiting is really, really frustrating.
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An OS is nothing without a community behind it. You can have the best, most efficient, smooth and gorgeous OS but its simply sucks if there is no one to code for it (aka windows mobile) This watch is Tizen's first serious market entry, so of course it sucks, for now, but remember that the king of mobile gadgets is behind it and it will eventually be something great. We are the pioneers of Tizen, we are paving the way for the future. Tizen is a good opportunity for any dev to have a fresh, new and especially easy revenue stream. I mean a guy coded a freakin simple calculator app and sold it for 1$. I'm sure that by the end of May, he will make at least a couple grand on something that any dev can code in under 1h. Same goes for any other app. If i were a dev, I'd jump on this opportunity of knowing this is a new emerging market that has a very serious bunch of backers (Open handset alliance) and within a year, there will be at least a couple hundreds of thousands of devices just screaming for 3rd party apps. And although a calculator might not be something that someone would spend a dollar on, there are many, many other simple apps that people would pay for. As an example, porting a T1 wrinting input that would allow us to write something directly on the watch
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I'm developing a simple calculator app I'm going to release for free... I find it crazy people are charging for extremely simple apps! I can see charging $1-5 for an app that actually takes some work to develop, but comon, a watch face for $2?!

Its all about opportunity. I'm not ever going to spend 2$ on a watchface, but suply x - demand xxxxxxxxxxx and as long as it stays like that, there will be more and more basic apps for a premium price
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Its all about opportunity. I'm not ever going to spend 2$ on a watchface, but suply x - demand xxxxxxxxxxx and as long as it stays like that, there will be more and more basic apps for a premium price
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Yeah, makes sense... they have had a lot of people buy them already. So hey if you can succeed at it, I guess touche.
But I submitted my calculator! Hopefully it gets approved... first app I have ever submitted. See if it goes through...

Out of curiosity, whats your coding experience? I might get motivated enough to take a crack at tizen. I know the basic stuff on Eclipse and have a few good ideas i would like to try for the gear. Is it easier or harder than for Android?
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polish_pat said:
Out of curiosity, whats your coding experience? I might get motivated enough to take a crack at tizen. I know the basic stuff on Eclipse and have a few good ideas i would like to try for the gear. Is it easier or harder than for Android?
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I consider myself a .NET developer first and Java a lid becoming a close second although I still have a lot to learn. Tizen widgets use HTML and Javascript for the backend. So if you know HTML5 and J Query I would say it's easier than android. Hard part is limited auto complete and knowing the SDK. For the most part I avoided the sdk.

Thanks for app!
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I also submitted a calculator but I avoided their SDK completely
I don't know how Samsung responds they will probably not be happy

Helga Pataki said:
I also submitted a calculator but I avoided their SDK completely
I don't know how Samsung responds they will probably not be happy
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Nice.. I bet they are processing like 59 calculator apps because people had the same idea! But yeah the sdk is just weird when it's javascript... seems too weird to me.

Why don't you guys post your apps here for us to use
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Why don't you guys post your apps here for us to use
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Yes, all you need to do is zip up the wgt file and post that. We can side load w/ sdb install.
Make it into a fun competition. Best calculator wins. ;-]

BigDanInTX said:
Yes, all you need to do is zip up the wgt file and post that. We can side load w/ sdb install.
Make it into a fun competition. Best calculator wins. ;-]
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I'll see if I can post mine later tonight. Found a small bug with mine where you can stack functions... also going to be implementing advanced functions here soon.
I just zip the wgt file with any normal zip program?

So you don't need the sdk to make app for this watch? I am not a programmer but I read that sdk is closed sources. I know closed source is restricted.
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So you want Samsung to develop free apps for you because you paid $199 for the watch?
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my sentiments exactly...:laugh:

Andromeda/Substratum support?

Andromeda and substratum themes does not work.. I am putting this thread up to see if anyone knows a work around or able to contact the devs to get support.

Is this the same for Swift Installer?

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Is this the same for Swift Installer?
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Most likely

roaduardo said:
Is this the same for Swift Installer?
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Most likely
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Looks like Swift Installer is working. Whew... Now if I can only get something to give me call recording then we'll be in business...

roaduardo said:
Looks like Swift Installer is working. Whew... Now if I can only get something to give me call recording then we'll be in business...
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So it is confirmed to be working? The post above you and the app developer states root is required on the S10 models to get swift installer to work.

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So it is confirmed to be working? The post above you and the app developer states root is required on the S10 models to get swift installer to work.
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Damn. I'm testing this on my One UI Note 9. I didn't realize Samsung has been selectively blocking support on different models like this. Shoot. Un-rooted S9, S9+ and Note 9 on Pie is supported. Why the heck is Samsung being this way with their other phones??

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So it is confirmed to be working? The post above you and the app developer states root is required on the S10 models to get swift installer to work.
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Root is required at the moment... but the snapdragon does notbuave root... til then its unusable (i may be wrong about not having root) have not seen any news about root yet

roaduardo said:
Damn. I'm testing this on my One UI Note 9. I didn't realize Samsung has been selectively blocking support on different models like this. Shoot. Un-rooted S9, S9+ and Note 9 on Pie is supported. Why the heck is Samsung being this way with their other phones??
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Samsung is apparently tired of their app store being neglected, and is pushing people into it for everything. Fonts were the first thing to get locked into their app store, and it's only gotten worse since. It's kind of ironic, as Samsung used to be one of the few Android vendors that let you customize nearly everything, but now it's among the most locked down.
I believe one of the lesser known issues is that, as of Pie, Samsung will no longer allow free themes or fonts either. Anything in their app store that is "free" will be a demo only and time out.

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Samsung is apparently tired of their app store being neglected, and is pushing people into it for everything. Fonts were the first thing to get locked into their app store, and it's only gotten worse since. It's kind of ironic, as Samsung used to be one of the few Android vendors that let you customize nearly everything, but now it's among the most locked down.
I believe one of the lesser known issues is that, as of Pie, Samsung will no longer allow free themes or fonts either. Anything in their app store that is "free" will be a demo only and time out.
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What absolute BS.

I'm using substratum and andromeda on my Note 9 but I only theme Google apps and a few Samsung apps. I don't use it to theme the system because dark mode is built in

Samsung really doesnt want us to make changes that not by them... arghh

jshamlet said:
Samsung is apparently tired of their app store being neglected, and is pushing people into it for everything. Fonts were the first thing to get locked into their app store, and it's only gotten worse since. It's kind of ironic, as Samsung used to be one of the few Android vendors that let you customize nearly everything, but now it's among the most locked down.
I believe one of the lesser known issues is that, as of Pie, Samsung will no longer allow free themes or fonts either. Anything in their app store that is "free" will be a demo only and time out.
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I thought they went back on that demo thing? I remember reading when the pie beat came out that they were making free themes a trial only but changed it back to having completely free ones. I might be wrong though, however I'm using a free theme as we speak and it didnt say anything about a trial or anything.

jshamlet said:
Samsung is apparently tired of their app store being neglected, and is pushing people into it for everything. Fonts were the first thing to get locked into their app store, and it's only gotten worse since. It's kind of ironic, as Samsung used to be one of the few Android vendors that let you customize nearly everything, but now it's among the most locked down.
I believe one of the lesser known issues is that, as of Pie, Samsung will no longer allow free themes or fonts either. Anything in their app store that is "free" will be a demo only and time out.
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Once we have root none of this will be an issue ...

sparky2029 said:
I thought they went back on that demo thing? I remember reading when the pie beat came out that they were making free themes a trial only but changed it back to having completely free ones. I might be wrong though, however I'm using a free theme as we speak and it didnt say anything about a trial or anything.
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I looked it up, and yes, it seems Samsung backed off of the demo/time trial thing for free themes. So, unless they do it again in the future, my bad.
Of course, the fact that you can only get themes/fonts/etc. through the Galaxy App store is ridiculous, but at least that particular bit of ridiculousness got walked back.

Man... I'm not even asking for much when it comes to custom theming. I just want a black theme for WhatsApp, Twitter, IG and Outlook on my phone. The rest of the system UI is fine with what Samsung gives us in night/dark mode.
I'm wondering I use an app extractor that I can use that to rip the Swift-customized apps on my Note 9 and install them on my S10e the Swift stuff will still be on the APKs?

roaduardo said:
Man... I'm not even asking for much when it comes to custom theming. I just want a black theme for WhatsApp, Twitter, IG and Outlook on my phone. The rest of the system UI is fine with what Samsung gives us in night/dark mode.
I'm wondering I use an app extractor that I can use that to rip the Swift-customized apps on my Note 9 and install them on my S10e the Swift stuff will still be on the APKs?
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Same

jshamlet said:
Samsung is apparently tired of their app store being neglected, and is pushing people into it for everything. Fonts were the first thing to get locked into their app store, and it's only gotten worse since. It's kind of ironic, as Samsung used to be one of the few Android vendors that let you customize nearly everything, but now it's among the most locked down.
I believe one of the lesser known issues is that, as of Pie, Samsung will no longer allow free themes or fonts either. Anything in their app store that is "free" will be a demo only and time out.
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Gvien the popularity of Substratum, Swift, and Andromeda, I'd work with them to get them on the Galaxy Store if I were Samsung. But what do I know, I'm just a guy and not a multi-billion dollar company.
If they want people to use their store, give people a reason to use it. I've been using the Galaxy Themes in conjunction with Substratum ever since I first learned about it since there's overlap that is beneficial for both.

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Gvien the popularity of Substratum, Swift, and Andromeda, I'd work with them to get them on the Galaxy Store if I were Samsung. But what do I know, I'm just a guy and not a multi-billion dollar company.
If they want people to use their store, give people a reason to use it. I've been using the Galaxy Themes in conjunction with Substratum ever since I first learned about it since there's overlap that is beneficial for both.
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I've been doing the same.
However, I'm not 100% sure this was Samsung's fault. Google was the one who purposefully neutered rootless Substratum on Pie. They went so far as in the March 2018 security update retroactively try to break it on Oreo as well. The fact that Samsung left it intact when they released Pie for the S9 probably irritated Google enough for them to push Samsung into blocking it.
The idea of having Substratum and its themes move to the Galaxy Store is a great one, but I'm not sure Google would like that and Samsung seems to have moved pass the time when they didn't care about what Google thought. I mean...Samsung itself admitted (in the Good Lock update announcement) that the ruining of the split-screen on Android Pie was the result of a demand from Google. I wouldn't be surprised is blocking Substratum on rootless phones was also a result of Google's meddling.
Question is: why? Is Google actually building their own version of Substratum into Android Q? Twitter's CEO, when talking about moving their night mode from blue to black, mentioned his wish to have a system wide theme that would change the Twitter app as well. This would be the ideal scenario. Third party devs would have the work of theming their apps lifted from them and outsourced to someone else, Google would "secure" the OMS engine for public use and we would finally get what we've been asking for years (it would also put an end to the debate about what is a good and a bad Dark Theme).
If only I believed Google ever had the interest of its users at heart...

Question Official Samsung watch blood pressure support for US?

The rest of world can do blood pressure stuff with the watch 4 & 5, but not the US. I hear it was a FDA regulations issue that was blocking things got sorted out. Any solid info or rumors on when an official release to make it work? I've seen a few hacks floating & at least 1 rumor after talking to a customer support person saying on official release was suppose to be in December. But as December is almost over that seems dubious. Not planning on fighting with side loading, rooting & what not for the time being, unless the BP stuff is a long ways off.

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https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-enable-ecg-blood-pressure-monitoring-samsung-galaxy-watch-4/ for reference on how to do it on the Watch4. I believe it works on the 5, but am not going to be fighting with it for a bit.

Yes, that reference should work on the W5...

Not one to install unknown software in fear of data stealing, trojans, viruses... I bit the bullet and installed this work around. It in fact works great. Did the calibration and pretty darn accurate. BP measurements was the main reason I bought this watch 5 and can finally use it.,

mt2020 said:
Not one to install unknown software in fear of data stealing, trojans, viruses... I bit the bullet and installed this work around. It in fact works great. Did the calibration and pretty darn accurate. BP measurements was the main reason I bought this watch 5 and can finally use it.,
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Just a slight clarification.. there is nothing unknown about the software you installed. That guy who wrote and supports it is well known. But it's nice that you reported that you got it working. I'm waiting on the watch now and will do the same as you did. I would like the reporting too.

bobby janow said:
Just a slight clarification.. there is nothing unknown about the software you installed. That guy who wrote and supports it is well known. But it's nice that you reported that you got it working. I'm waiting on the watch now and will do the same as you did. I would like the reporting too.
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I understand. But side loading apps can be risky, never as safe as getting it through the play store, but yea, some bad actors there too. Google tried to verify it on download but gave me a message file too large. Recently bought 2022 Turbotax which most vendors sell as downloads and yep, the vendor was pushing a copy with malware and bogus serial number. He was using a very larger retailor to offer from. Luckily I almost always first install to a sandbox to be safe, and test, and did, Just saying its getting nuts out there.

mt2020 said:
I understand. But side loading apps can be risky, never as safe as getting it through the play store, but yea, some bad actors there too. Google tried to verify it on download but gave me a message file too large. Recently bought 2022 Turbotax which most vendors sell as downloads and yep, the vendor was pushing a copy with malware and bogus serial number. He was using a very larger retailor to offer from. Luckily I almost always first install to a sandbox to be safe, and test, and did, Just saying its getting nuts out there.
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I hear that & I'm in the same boat. Use to root, run Cyanogen, mess with bootloaders & all the fun stuff for years. These days stock usually is good enough & auto-updating makes life so much easier & safer.
Still debating if I just wait for Samsung, or break down & side load semi-trusted molded stuff.

Fallon said:
I hear that & I'm in the same boat. Use to root, run Cyanogen, mess with bootloaders & all the fun stuff for years. These days stock usually is good enough & auto-updating makes life so much easier & safer.
Still debating if I just wait for Samsung, or break down & side load semi-trusted molded stuff.
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Yep. I gave up. I needed it. Promised for Watch 4, nope. Watch 5, wating... Watch 6, 7,... who knows? Have a few brews while you wait. Won't help with your BP though

mt2020 said:
Yep. I gave up. I needed it. Promised for Watch 4, nope. Watch 5, wating... Watch 6, 7,... who knows? Have a few brews while you wait. Won't help with your BP though
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First, works great and well needed app on my wrist. As for loading an 'unknown' sourse, Dante63 has done so much to allow us, and he keep maintaining new releases. I have his 'unknown' source since early W4 days (and I had the watch from proably the day it was released). With github release, text install files, video, github, and support for the community for free, what exactly is he going to take from you exactly? If you have Tiktok I would be more worried.. and if you get the google time line as I do once a month, this is REALLY big brother style report.. So if you connect to the internet, you already gave up on privacy.. and they know everything about you already.

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See here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ce-restriction-removed-25th-oct-2022.4322527/
According to APK Mirror, the latest is Samsung Health Monitor 1.1.1.221 so I believe this is the latest you can ask for.