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Can't believe we were anxiously awaiting this..

Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.

rootbrain said:
Android 4.2 doesn't even seem well thought out, let alone designed. Is Google playing the Apple game, tying us into their universe and making us take whatever the deliver?
Do they even care how many apps won't work or have to have multiple purchases to support their multi-user "security"? Should have just left the multi-user thing to 3rd party devs. They fail on this, IMO.
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Google doesn't care.. Remember when 4.1.1 broke a bunch of paid apps by sticking them in the asec folder which wasn't mounted at startup? So since it wasn't mounted Android never saw the apps during boot and paid keyboards and widgets disappeared after a reboot. MONTHS went by before it was addressed. Meanwhile developers of those paid apps had angry customers and money lost because of Google
This will be the same song and dance.. Google is getting very sloppy with development and communication with developers pre-release seems to not exist.

I love it.
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Stop stereotyping. People are always so quick to hate on Americans. Yes there are bad Americans...but every country has them. Even your country. But I'm not going to go there since I happen to like most people from the UK that I've encountered...it would be unfair to label your entire nation as arrogant, ungrateful, and judgmental because of your behavior.
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leelaa said:
I love it.
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Seriously how is the "I love it" on topic or not a personal feeling?
Anyway thanks for the clean up
But still I agree with the OP. Google is becoming arrogant, sloppy and in its quest to be more user friendly making fiends of the ppl that were with them from version 1.

So what is the problem? I am only one person using my nexus and I haven't run into any issues.
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4.2 works fine for me. A few bugs here and there but you can't expect everything to be perfect. Google getting arrogant? Please. Sloppy? I'd say they are spread a bit thin with all the projects they have going on.
Google is run by humans. Android developers are humans. Humans make errors. Not too complicated.
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well its not about the bugs, bugs can be forgiven.
System works fine...
Its about their behavior
For me personally that I can't mount my USB stick, or lost tablet mode means that I downgraded to 4.1.2 back.

Today is Thursday. The sun will still shine Friday
Humm ..
Its called growing pains. Sometimes you have to take a STEP Back to move two bigger steps foreword. I see so much talk about this is not there that is buggy. Yes we get it.. But what i am seeing mostly is app compatibility Being Broke.. This is something that will be fixed Quickly by most Developers.
Android is and always will be "A WORK IN PROGRESS". My opinion only but if you want bland and safe sell your nexus 7 to me for .50 cents and get a ipad mini.
People who are having issues Please go to the developers web site and let them know your app is not working properly .Give them exact details. You can do the same to google at groups.google.com. Just be Patient
Now my GRIPE The multi user cluster (word here im not typing) as others said was not well though through by google. My guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
Take a deep breath relax and say to yourself.. Its only a tablet its only a tablet its only a toy tablet... ..
Thanks for Reading... :fingers-crossed:

I suppose YMMV, but I love 4.2. Smoother than 4.1, and nice features. The only thing that really seems half-assed is the multiuser support.

What is your problem with multi-user? For me and my daughter it is working great - could not be better.
I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
Performance is good - all our preferences and accounts are separated - and I really can't think of any other features I would want.

I did add my account to her user ID Play store so she could see the apps we own and install the link.
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I haven't played with multi-user yet, can you add the account just for the play store and not have someone access the gmail account associated with it?
That's my gripe, I want to be able to for ex, have my nephew play with my tablet and all the games etc, but don't want him to access to my gmail etc. I thought this was perfect for that but then read about the app issue. Also, I assume there is no type of limited user, in that a secondary account can still uninstall apps, but at least they can't delete files from the other users home dir.

Yes - my account is just added to my daughter's play store. Open play store and look at add account option.
Works perfectly to give her access to the apps we share.
NO shared Gmail.
Forgot something important:
When you add a second account to play store, you are given a bunch of items you can synch, like contacts.
Uncheck them all!
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i had a valid post in this thread, it seems to have been removed ........yet you left the dude saying "love it".
cheers for that :confused
and im sorry but why has this guy just been thanked by 10 people? the post has nothing to do with anything...... shenanigans shenanigans i tells ya!!:silly:

Stick mount wasn't a feature of 4.1. It was hacked in which is why you had to be rooted and use an app. You'll get USB support again. Multiuser support screwed with the storage. That's all.
New tweaks are a little rough around the edges but will be smoothed out soon enough. Give it time, damn guys. I personally think its no better or worse then 4.1.2. We just have a few new toys now.
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4.2 = 1st time I've truly experienced "butter"...
Sure, I kinda miss the bells & whistles I had on Codename Android, and I'll definitely check out any forthcoming 4.2 updates, but scrosler's stock, rooted, deodexed ROM is far & away the smoothest, quickest ROM I've used on any Android device. Stock kernel, no tweaks, plain vanilla is for me for now. Way better Google experience. OK, I sideloaded the AOSP browser for Flash, but that's it. Chrome is much more responsive on 4.2 than 4.1.2 - Everything is noticeably quicker - I even detect better wireless response. Your results may vary, but I'm not going back!

[/COLOR]If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Am I the only one that has multiple apps that crash and all kinds of problems? Hell even the Youtube app crashes, i am so pissed i want a refund on this tablet they ruined or i want 4.1.2 back grrrrrrrrrr
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If you are unhappy just roll back to 4.1.2. This isn't iOS. You can downgrade all you want.
Please tell me how, not rooted?
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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?

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Wouldn't a factory image flashing work?
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Yes
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erica_renee said:
HMy guess is they made a date promise and pushed out only part of the Feature.. Typical Google.
It will get better and it will happen quite soon.. Lets just hope...
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Well, I do belive that you are right. I also feared (and expected, to tell the truth) that something EXACTLY like this would happen. I tried NOT to update the system, but why the hell did they keep forcing it when we obvoiusly do not want it? And probably, they must have known that it will broke a lot of things...
Just to explain: for me, there was a message with three buttons: upgrade, more info (which leads to seme text and bigger "upgrade" button and "later", but that "later" means only "ask at next screen unlock" which made the tablet realy hard to use. So, what choice have I had?

Developers: any links to best practices for Gear development?

Okay, new to this. Started up a gear yesterday and I'm impressed. Now I want to go further... (already bored lol). Any links to docs on how to develop for this thing. I already know that this it is standard Android and that one can write standalone apps the usual way for this thing. What I'm interested in is how the communication model works with companion apps on the phone. I suspect it will be done by running services on the phone, but how can one interact with those services via a Bluetooth connection. Or is it event driven?
I'm really surprised that Samsung hasn't publiced anything about this on their site? What? Don't they like developers to jump on the bandwagon?

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appelflap said:
Okay, new to this. Started up a gear yesterday and I'm impressed. Now I want to go further... (already bored lol). Any links to docs on how to develop for this thing. I already know that this it is standard Android and that one can write standalone apps the usual way for this thing. What I'm interested in is how the communication model works with companion apps on the phone. I suspect it will be done by running services on the phone, but how can one interact with those services via a Bluetooth connection. Or is it event driven?
I'm really surprised that Samsung hasn't publiced anything about this on their site? What? Don't they like developers to jump on the bandwagon?
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I don't believe the SDK has been released yet, welcome to the gear community nether the less.

fOmey said:
I don't believe the SDK has been released yet, welcome to the gear community nether the less.
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So you think they work with special APIs? Or just the standard APIs? I saw there were already some interesting apps on the Samsung market like for example Zine. It has a controller architecture. On the Gear side you get headlines pushed and by tapping on a headline the Zine app is opened with the corresponding article. Can this can be done with standard Android APIs or do we need a special APIs for that. I can imagine that this can be done with the standard event model.
@lucf I did, couldn't find anything interesting wrt this topic. If you stumble upon some good posts let me know! Thx

Appears that Samsung kept it 'invite-only' for now:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57609639-94/this-is-why-there-arent-more-samsung-galaxy-gear-apps/

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Appears that Samsung kept it 'invite-only' for now:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57609639-94/this-is-why-there-arent-more-samsung-galaxy-gear-apps/
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Crap, so it does work with proprietary APIs? Right, might return this thing and wait till it is open for development, cheaper and will have more apps. They should have written that on the box. With their crap apps.

appelflap said:
Crap, so it does work with proprietary APIs? Right, might return this thing and wait till it is open for development, cheaper and will have more apps. They should have written that on the box. With their crap apps.
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"We need to make sure we're ready to go big."
Thats a quote from the article, they will be released. Although not just yet..

they never said they will release the sdk to the public, did they? so please stop making false claims.
samsung might as well decide that they are not ready to go big with this generation (lack of wifi, poor software etc). what then?

hurdlejade said:
they never said they will release the sdk to the public, did they? so please stop making false claims.
samsung might as well decide that they are not ready to go big with this generation (lack of wifi, poor software etc). what then?
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It's definitely a remarkable manoeuvre. Another remarkable thing is that everything is kept in the Samsung app store. It's not a secret that Samsung has big ambitions. Maybe they are trying to build their own ecosystem in the Android ecosystem. Maybe they gonna lock the APIs in some kind of Samsung Appstore service. Meh .. let's hope Google comes up with a watch soon and an addition to the Android framework for smart watches.

I recently tried to release an app to the Samsung store specifically for the gear but it was rejected for "other" reasons...
Seems like the public are just unknowing beta testers of a half-arsed device by Samsung.

n13astra said:
I recently tried to release an app to the Samsung store specifically for the gear but it was rejected for "other" reasons...
Seems like the public are just unknowing beta testers of a half-arsed device by Samsung.
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Really? What did you try to submit? A simple standalone app that only runs on the gear?

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Really? What did you try to submit? A simple standalone app that only runs on the gear?
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Tried to release my Calculator app that only runs on the Gear. I've since emailed back asking what "other" reasons they are talking about.

Just speculation on my part --
I have a feeling that Samsung is simply testing waters with this initial release of Gear. They are very serious about it, but they also know that it's not entirely polished product. They wanted to be first to market.
I think the 2rev of Gear might have some radical changes. They could probably build it on top of Kitkat (optimized for low memory devices?) and some new low energy communication protocols. Probably they will then open the APIs for all devs. Maybe we will also see some of the curved screen goodness!
But it's for sure they will never make the Gear compatible with all Android by default -- doesn't make a good business sense. Google will obviously try to make their smartwatch compatible with all Android, and that makes perfect business sense for google.

n13astra said:
Tried to release my Calculator app that only runs on the Gear. I've since emailed back asking what "other" reasons they are talking about.
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are you the guy who made it? nice. i sideloaded it into my Gear. works flawlessly, althought I would like to see some colored theme like numbers in one color, functions in other. 5 stars from me! super lite too!

Thanks...The coloured buttons are on the way...

[need advice] after ~10 yrs kitkat and xposed, what are my options on a samsung note8

Hi all,
I have been a Samsung Note User from day one (and Note1). To keep apps in check, I always used xposed plus xprivacy or LBE. Today, I am totally aware my Note4 is totally outdated but I really got used to being able to deny data and (maybe more importantly) network access to any app at will.
I have been keeping to use my old phone because whenever I looked for viable app-fencing solutions on the current android versions, everything seemed very volatile and unstable. Recently my company gave me a Note8 and although I am not a big friend of the modern "glass brick" design trend at all, it is hard to ignore the advances in terms of hardware power and that my trusty old Note begins to be unable to execute certain new apps.
I presume most of you are using current Android versions. So I'd like to ask you which solutions are you using to prevent unwanted data and privacy drain on your devices. I my dreams I would continue to be able to willingly decide whether any app may be allowed to use either Wifi or mobile networks (bonus prize: depending on if the app is in foreground or not), be able to suppress advertising extensions in apps and deny access to privacy-related data like position, unique IDs and contact database.
Which solutions would I use to achieve as many of these goals as possible on Android 7 or even 8? Maybe even some without rooting?
Thank you very much for you suggestions and input..

Much of that is backed right into nougat and Oreo. Many permissions can be denied (depending on the app developers). Root on the newer samsungs seems to be problematic.

Bitmixer said:
Hi all,
I have been a Samsung Note User from day one (and Note1). To keep apps in check, I always used xposed plus xprivacy or LBE. Today, I am totally aware my Note4 is totally outdated but I really got used to being able to deny data and (maybe more importantly) network access to any app at will.
I have been keeping to use my old phone because whenever I looked for viable app-fencing solutions on the current android versions, everything seemed very volatile and unstable. Recently my company gave me a Note8 and although I am not a big friend of the modern "glass brick" design trend at all, it is hard to ignore the advances in terms of hardware power and that my trusty old Note begins to be unable to execute certain new apps.
I presume most of you are using current Android versions. So I'd like to ask you which solutions are you using to prevent unwanted data and privacy drain on your devices. I my dreams I would continue to be able to willingly decide whether any app may be allowed to use either Wifi or mobile networks (bonus prize: depending on if the app is in foreground or not), be able to suppress advertising extensions in apps and deny access to privacy-related data like position, unique IDs and contact database.
Which solutions would I use to achieve as many of these goals as possible on Android 7 or even 8? Maybe even some without rooting?
Thank you very much for you suggestions and input..
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Hey! We are together in this! I am exactly the same on my Motorola x play! Been using xprivacy and xposed too for ages on all apps, plus a firewall too.
Give a look at f-droid app store and xposed itself, on the download tab. There is the new xprivacy LUA for android 6/7, and it's the successor of the old version. Haven't tested out yet, but seems to be more or less the same, judging by what I read.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacylua6-0-android-privacy-manager-t3730663
Also... Give a look at a good firewall, to block rogue internet access for all the nasty apps out there.
Anything just give me a shout. It's good to know I am not alone! [emoji108][emoji56]
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madbat99 said:
Much of that is backed right into nougat and Oreo. Many permissions can be denied (depending on the app developers). Root on the newer samsungs seems to be problematic.
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Thanks for your reply, madbat.
I have seen the new permission management in oreo. Please understand that to me it is important that not an app developer decides what I can deny but I want to be able to make that decision myself. Moreover, as far as my knowledge goes, android does not allow to deny network access to apps when I deem they shouldn't have any business on my uplink. Most importantly this applies for any Amazon apps and most apps from their store. All of them are trying to phone home every few minutes(!).

Ev0luti0n_ said:
Hey! We are together in this! I am exactly the same on my Motorola x play! Been using xprivacy and xposed too for ages on all apps, plus a firewall too.
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I had hoped I am not alone
Ev0luti0n_ said:
(...) There is the new xprivacy LUA for android 6/7, and it's the successor of the old version. Haven't tested out yet, but seems to be more or less the same, judging by what I read.
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I have read about that one and to me it appears like it is not quite there. Last time I looked, the developer was about to REMOVE protection of several sensitive data points like IMEI. Also, like madcat mentioned, rooting the latest Samsung devices can be problematic and I might get some problems bricking a $1000 company device
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Also... Give a look at a good firewall, to block rogue internet access for all the nasty apps out there.
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Any recommendations here?
kind regards

Oh... I use afwall, which requires root. I did read here on XDA, that there is a good no root firewall here, but I can't remember the name. ..
Also you won't be able to root the device? I am not sure you are going to have much luck... [emoji848]
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Also you won't be able to root the device? I am not sure you are going to have much luck... [emoji848]
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I guess I am able to root it, just a little reluctant yet Like, waiting for someone to finally discover a rooting method that does not invalidate knox for the note8

Hey guys, I have a question. What firewall were you talking about for KitKat?

Official Google Play Store Dark Theme mod on Marshmallow, Nougat, Oreo, Pie

New nonroot method on Post 8#
Google Play Store Dark mode wth root ,Xposed and an additional app/apk. However, the app does not require root and may work as a standard alone.
Tested on Samsung Note 4 n910p api 23.
First, download Xposed module "Google PS Dark
Theme Enabler" by Alex193a. Activate module, reboot, and launch Google Play Store app, tap top left 3 bar icon and go to settings. theme and toggle Dark. If this works then there is no need to proceed any further. If not, try developer options dark mode and enabled it.
As for me, there was no such option provided anywhere in the settings and although, I enabled Dark in the Play Store, the theme remained unchanged.
Second, if you still dont have Dark Play Store themed yet then I suggest trying "Night Mode" by Subham Tyagi. This app provides the ability toggle dark mode when none is present and should not be confused with a screen filter or dimmer.
A BIT OF A WARNING
This app/apk is not available on the Play Store, however, it is available on F-Droid" or "G-Driod".
I am not the developer of either the Xposed module nor the Night Mode app. Furthermore, Google constantly updates the Play Store and this may or may not work in the future.

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Update and possible work around (un-tested)
I still have dark mod theme working on lasted uodate
However toggle is missing that is necessary to enable this mod to begin with s I offer this as a suggestion.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/themes-apps/dark-google-play-theme-note-4-t3981001

At the same time, you won’t be very surprised by the technical characteristics on paper, because we often pay attention to the performance of smartphones in synthetic tests, and this also applies to Note 4

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At the same time, you won’t be very surprised by the technical characteristics on paper, because we often pay attention to the performance of smartphones in synthetic tests, and this also applies to Note 4
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Thank you for posting and welcome
You seem educated with android but perhaps you miss understood. This mod is not on paper. The theme is applied to Note 4 marshmallow 6.0.1. . Testing technical characteristic and sythetic testing , as you suggest, "applies to the Note 4". (the real world).
I should mention, I was aware of this but think it is of provides useful information .
In fact you seem so confident. and your methods so Scientific , then you have must have technical data based evidence and the data from te systematic testing that " applies to the Note 4" as you mention. Just to be clear, this is necessary to add creditability to you statement., otherwise it is simply conjecture, opinion, speculation, theory, fantasy, fiction and just irrational whimsical Jibber jabber. iBack it with Empirical evidence and provie factual data . To mention technical, synthetics tests but offer not fact. Really?
I will also "speculate" , that when you mention "we often pay attention" that perhaps you taking a class or course and wish to in lighten us hear on XDA. ; ) Great! . Formal training will provide a strong foundation and that is a fact but I also submit that if a person thonks they know everthing how can there learn anything new.
I admit I found a bit of humor in you statement "and that also applies to the Note 4" LOL, If you think sbout it hshahehe. WoW, Google is currently development of Android 11 and 64bit is a requirement in submitting apps to Google play store by 2021, recent changes and app bundles ank api's ,security issues, and anti-trust bearig down on Googe Android ? That the Note 4 released way back in 2014 os of that much importance. You real crack me. up!!! aThanks for the laugh bro... LOL. Your Hilarious. Thanks for the laughs.
I also wish to encourage you to continue with you education. PleaseI have mentioned will prove useful in other endeavors. I welcome your data that specificly " applies to the Note 4". Thank you. I cant stop laughing .. For real...

uhI will say , Im glad somebody posted. I just never expected it to be do funny. "and that also applies to the "Note 4" OK.

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The new updated PlayStore has made the mod obsolete. This can be done on non-rooted phone with an app available from Google play.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=systems.maju.darkmode&hl=en

MesmerizingLake said:
At the same time, you won’t be very surprised by the technical characteristics on paper, because we often pay attention to the performance of smartphones in synthetic tests, and this also applies to Note 4
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At the same time, you won’t be very surprised by the technical characteristics on paper, because we often pay attention to the performance of smartphones in synthetic tests, and this also applies to Note 4
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Non-root method provided via an app available for download from Google PS.

Question Is there a way to get rid of all the Google DARK UX pushy feathures?

Im not impressed at all by my Pixel since Black Friday. I actually received a S21 at work and its WAYYYYY better.
Anyway, a lot of BS feathures are problematic. I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
I want for example to get rid of the google lens icon and the google bar.
Is there any way to do that?

Fennec23 said:
I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
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Congrats on buying the Google phone then.
If you want to deactivate system apps enable developer settings, enable ADB, connect your phone to your PC and disable Google Lens and Google Search system apps / packages using Universal Android Debloater GUI and maybe other googly bloat.
Want to have more privacy? Learn about flashing your phone, unlock the bootloader, flash Graphene OS, Calyx OS, Lineage OS or something like that.
Maybe root your device and block trackers and stuff using Adaway. Or stay unrooted and use something like personalDNSfilter.

Maybe selling it is a good choice for you

Fennec23 said:
Im not impressed at all by my Pixel since Black Friday. I actually received a S21 at work and its WAYYYYY better.
Anyway, a lot of BS feathures are problematic. I feel like Im being spied all the time by google rather than owning a phone.
I want for example to get rid of the google lens icon and the google bar.
Is there any way to do that?
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All of that spyware crap is preinstalled on ALL android phones, not just pixel. They're a bit more in your face on pixel maybe though, since gooble is showcasing it there.
My recommendation would be to switch to grapheneOS. If you absolutely MUST use proprietary gooble bits, grapheneos implements a unique compatibility layer to cause it all to run as a conventional user-installed application instead of demanding excessive permissions.