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[Q] Strange marks beneath the screen

I’ve a strange problem with the screen of my Note, I noticed this when switching off the phone in a complete dark room. The screen turns dark grey for a split second before switching off, this is when I noticed some strange black marks beneath the screen.
I made a jpeg to replicate this problem (1st attachment), along with a screen capture of the marks (2nd attachment). Can somebody please download the picture and check to see if there are any marks on their phone?
You need to be in a complete dark room for this to work, it helps if you turn the screen brightness to 100% and allow a bit of time for your eyes to adjust to the dark.
I also added roughly what the marks look like.
Many thanks
P.S. this does not affect the screen in normal use.

I have noticed that too....
Edit: forgot to mention that it does not affect usage in anyway
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Why.....
SH!T, not this crap again. The Galaxy S2 has this at a greater extent, but I was LEAST EXPECTING this on the Note, especially since they JUST starting manufacturing this model. I don't even think the demand is as high as the S2. I'm having mixed thoughts now. Those marks are NOT normal.

SAlmighty said:
SH!T, not this crap again. The Galaxy S2 has this at a greater extent, but I was LEAST EXPECTING this on the Note, especially since they JUST starting manufacturing this model. I don't even think the demand is as high as the S2. I'm having mixed thoughts now. Those marks are NOT normal.
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why is this a problem?

Bigmille said:
I’ve a strange problem with the screen of my Note, I noticed this when switching off the phone in a complete dark room. The screen turns dark grey for a split second before switching off, this is when I noticed some strange black marks beneath the screen.
I made a jpeg to replicate this problem (1st attachment), along with a screen capture of the marks (2nd attachment). Can somebody please download the picture and check to see if there are any marks on their phone?
You need to be in a complete dark room for this to work, it helps if you turn the screen brightness to 100% and allow a bit of time for your eyes to adjust to the dark.
I also added roughly what the marks look like.
Many thanks
P.S. this does not affect the screen in normal use.
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hi...is your phone UK or EU version?

This is the biggest manufacturing defect of the season! Go to the Samsung Herculus (T-Mobile S2) Forum and you have over 500 users observing the same exact problem! Samsung is carelessly sealing the back of the AMOLED display panel, therefore you will see lines and blotches everywhere. This is absurd!
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why is this a problem?
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Bigmille said:
I’ve a strange problem with the screen of my Note, I noticed this when switching off the phone in a complete dark room. The screen turns dark grey for a split second before switching off, this is when I noticed some strange black marks beneath the screen.
I made a jpeg to replicate this problem (1st attachment), along with a screen capture of the marks (2nd attachment). Can somebody please download the picture and check to see if there are any marks on their phone?
You need to be in a complete dark room for this to work, it helps if you turn the screen brightness to 100% and allow a bit of time for your eyes to adjust to the dark.
I also added roughly what the marks look like.
Many thanks
P.S. this does not affect the screen in normal use.
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I guess it could be a problem, but to be honest with you, I don't have any interest in trying this.
Go to a completely dark room and turn the screen to 100% and look for defects? Uhh, what?
When I'm in a very dark room, I find 3% quite comfortable, thank you. (10% brightness * screenfilter (30%)
- Frankt

SAlmighty said:
This is the biggest manufacturing defect of the season!
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Hmmm.... so something that you can only see when you are switching the phone off in a completely dark room is "the biggest manufacturing defect of the season"???
I understand that when you drop hundreds of £s/$s/€s on something, you want it to be perfect, but something that can only be seen for a split second as you turn the phone off in very specific circumstances, scarcely warrants such a title in my opinion!
I can certainly think of worse - lightbleed on Asus Transformer, or Newtons rings/oil click on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 for example, which (if present) can be seen during use.
Regards,
Dave

I agree with foxmeister. Why try and find a fault when there's really no fault there!
So you've got dots on your screen when in a completely dark room, with screen set at 100%, that lasts for a second or two......so what! Don't sit and stare at your phone in the dark is the answer. Then the problem will go away.
Jeeez, some people are never satisfied or happy.
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Thanks for the feedbacks, I have the EU version from amazon.de.
There is definitely a fault with either the screen or how it was put together, otherwise I'll not be able to notice it. Those marks does not show up on my Galaxy Tab 10.1, the original Tab or any my pervious mobile devices as far as I can remember.
I did note this don't affect the screen in normal use. Also the 100% brightness suggestion is to make the problem easier to spot, I normally have the screen at 5% in the dark, and we have no control over the brightness when the phone is switching off (when I noticed the marks).
I started this thread to find out what is the course of this problem and how widespread it is before deciding if I should send it back to Germany for a replacement/refund.
BTW, under EU consumer law, we have 21 days to return the device either for a refund or replacement from the seller, after that we might have to send the phone for repair.

Sounds like there is a manufacture defects with the EU version?!

Head over to the International Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S2 (T-Mobile) Forums and the answers behold. Hundreds of comments stating the same exact issue. I'm just surprised how this slipped into the SAMOLED HD display. I don't recall the original Galaxy S (which also had a Pentile Matrix) having such an issue, or did it?
foxmeister said:
Hmmm.... so something that you can only see when you are switching the phone off in a completely dark room is "the biggest manufacturing defect of the season"???
I understand that when you drop hundreds of £s/$s/€s on something, you want it to be perfect, but something that can only be seen for a split second as you turn the phone off in very specific circumstances, scarcely warrants such a title in my opinion!
I can certainly think of worse - lightbleed on Asus Transformer, or Newtons rings/oil click on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 for example, which (if present) can be seen during use.
Regards,
Dave
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Perhaps we should ask folks from India, they just got their stocks as well.
DMax99 said:
Sounds like there is a manufacture defects with the EU version?!
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SAlmighty said:
Head over to the International Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S2 (T-Mobile) Forums and the answers behold. Hundreds of comments stating the same exact issue. I'm just surprised how this slipped into the SAMOLED HD display. I don't recall the original Galaxy S (which also had a Pentile Matrix) having such an issue, or did it?
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Do you have some links?
Also is there somewhere photos that show the issue?

Common Indeed!
T-Mobile Galaxy S2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300133
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310945
International-Based Galaxy S2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217047
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197743

SAlmighty said:
Head over to the International Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S2 (T-Mobile) Forums and the answers behold. Hundreds of comments stating the same exact issue. I'm just surprised how this slipped into the SAMOLED HD display. I don't recall the original Galaxy S (which also had a Pentile Matrix) having such an issue, or did it?
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I have a Galaxy S II, and regularly frequent those the international forum, and I've not seen this come up as an issue (though I don't disbelieve you that it probably does somewhere). I looked in the TMo US Galaxy S II specific forum and I did find such a thread, but I was unwillingly to pour through 50+ pages to see the final outcome as it was filled with people who have the issue, don't have the issue, or have the issue but don't care.
I've not noticed this issue with either my Note or my Galaxy S II, and I'm not going to go look for it in artificial environments that I'd typically never be using my device in.
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"​
According to the OP, on the Note, this only appears for a brief moment whilst the phone is being switched off in pretty much total darkness, so my point is - does it really matter?
Regards,
Dave

Well, many EU owners are already reporting black spots on their Note!
http://www.golem.de/1111/87475-3.html
http://www.android-hilfe.de/samsung...iche-displayverhalten-beim-galaxy-note-2.html
and
http://www.android-hilfe.de/samsung...s-der-farbtiefe-des-galaxy-note-displays.html
Translate to English, this is serious!

Bigmille said:
I’ve a strange problem with the screen of my Note, I noticed this when switching off the phone in a complete dark room. The screen turns dark grey for a split second before switching off, this is when I noticed some strange black marks beneath the screen.
I made a jpeg to replicate this problem (1st attachment), along with a screen capture of the marks (2nd attachment). Can somebody please download the picture and check to see if there are any marks on their phone?
You need to be in a complete dark room for this to work, it helps if you turn the screen brightness to 100% and allow a bit of time for your eyes to adjust to the dark.
I also added roughly what the marks look like.
Many thanks
P.S. this does not affect the screen in normal use.
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I was lying in bed last night and saw what you are talking about. I think. I has used my phone heavily for the last week and didn't notice anything else.
So I suspect we all have it but uhhhhh whatever.

See this link for another photo of the problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337499
The photo is taken with a small Canon camera, with ISO = 200, and a 15 seconds of exposure time.

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The Note is going back to Amazon. I was able to see the some of the black marks against black border when watching film in the dark last night with the screen brightness of 5%.
I was going to keep it before it started to affect my normal use, lets hope the replacement has less or no marks.

[Q] anyone in UK with a good screen? (gamma test)

Recently upgraded from a black S2 to a black note (which i love) then learnt of the whole screen issue (black clipping/crush)
ive trailed through soooooo many pages and seems very little evidence of anyone who has done the gamma test pattern and had a good screen
My gamma result is that i can see all the way to the number 4 and then it turns black (i have blocky grey squares for example when there is a scene change during a video and the screen darkens)
my question is is there anyone in the UK with a good screen? i am within the 28 days so i guess they would swap for a brand new note but dont want to go through the process if there doesn't seem to be any good screen units in country!
(i realise there is a member supercurio working to correct this in ics but some people saying it might be a hardware issue since other solutions are simply shifting the values in the gamma test to 6-7 so i would rather have a good screen if possible)

I think its a software and not a hardware problem, but I read the threads on this long ago. In day to day use I can't even tell about the black leveling off, so it doesn't matter to me. If I were you id just stop looking for problems in this amazing device because if you look you'll always find something wrong.
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whatsaqazza said:
I think its a software and not a hardware problem, but I read the threads on this long ago. In day to day use I can't even tell about the black leveling off, so it doesn't matter to me. If I were you id just stop looking for problems in this amazing device because if you look you'll always find something wrong.
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i'm with you on what you said at the end...but the blacks on my phone are more grey and if i watch videos/youtube etc its obvious (actually prefer watching stuff on the s2 and that goes against why i wanted i bigger screen)
i did specifically want to know if there are phones without the issue in the uk as i'm still within 28 days and eligable to swap the unit
regarding if it is software - people still saying the problem is there who have flashed ics though?

fast_asleep said:
i'm with you on what you said at the end...but the blacks on my phone are more grey and if i watch videos/youtube etc its obvious (actually prefer watching stuff on the s2 and that goes against why i wanted i bigger screen)
i did specifically want to know if there are phones without the issue in the uk as i'm still within 28 days and eligable to swap the unit
regarding if it is software - people still saying the problem is there who have flashed ics though?
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Samsung may just not care about it with ICS and things like that, exactly why a XDA member is working on it instead. But since you just got it you might as well swap it quickly and see if it's better. Personally on my note (it's not from the UK) I don't notice this at all, just a yellow tinge sometimes (Damn you pentile!)

[Discussion]Screen Burn-In/Stuck Pixel.

Ive seen no threads on this issue so I decided to make one! But I wanted to know if anyone had any! Personally I had one stuck pixel on my tab s. Yet it was really hard to see I later got it fixed by doing a stuck pixel remover video for about a couple of hours and later installed discreet blue theme. Now its not there! I own the tab s 10.5 Wifi.
So... Has anyone else got a stuck pixel or an image burnt into their screen? Let me know below! Could be useful for others buying this tablet!

I've had the Tab S 10.5 LTE since release, use at least 8 hours daily for work and haven't got any issues in terms of the screen degrading like burn in or stuck pixels, have thoroughly checked to be sure, might have just been a one time thing, generally take years for a burn in on Amoled but even then I have had other AMOLED screen devices for years without a problem

No burn ins on my unit as well , im using the 8.4 as my primary phone and gps. Im always at 1/16th brightness. I also have a 4 yr old 7.7 slate, no burn ins as well. Seems like newer amoleds are not that prone to burn ins. Just to add, im using an all black theme.

Somehow (turning brightness all the way up all the time) my friend burned in a new note 2 in about 3 months. He used his phone a LOT as well.

My Tab S (about a month old now, auto brightness below 10-20% using Velis Auto Brightness, not much used) is perfect for now. However I saw the two 10.5" samples heavily burned at the local mobile shop. Also saw two months old Note 4 heavily burned at the same mobile shop. So it seems burn-in problem with this latest amoled screens still remains.

Thank you guys for your response! Yeah turning the brightness up to 75‰ is how I got mine. That was when I first got my tablet and had it on 75% for the whole month. I want to walamrt the other day to see the samples. The screen seem imrpoved from when I got mine. I will try to use a autobrightness app

Thread should now be a discussion thread about the burned in pixels. Guess I made it look like a question. Thanks forum mods for telling me about this problem and moving the thread back!

I assume this thread is for burned-in and stuck pixel questions/discussion?
If so: I just went to a couple of local stores to test out the Tab S, with an intention to bring one home. I didn't so far -- all devices (4 in 2 different shops) had pretty severe burn-in from the demo programs that Samsung installs and runs on the devices in the store. A couple of them so much that it was actually disturbing for things like browsing plain web pages (white background); you could read the "inverted" text that had burned in.
One store anticipated the device had been on for 10 hours a day since somewhere August last year, which would make it around 10*6*40 or about 2.400 hours of use -- presumably close to max output on the display in "demo mode".
This caused me to hesitate... is this a common problem with the devices, particular to early models, or just something that happens if you run it for too high output -- or will it happen eventually to all devices? A life-time of less than 2.000 hours seems quite low to me in any case.
Also, when/if it happens, are there any ways to "reset" the screen again, or is the damage permanent?
I have a ~2 yr old S4 that does NOT have any burn-in, but I also use that much less, not at 100% brightness and usually with varying content on the screen. I guess the display technology is similar even if the Tab S is a much newer device.

I never had burn in problems in any Samsung amoled devices (since S1).
Just made sure box was sealed and auto brightness was always on.
Actually, I personally have a worst experience with LCD with light bleed and other issues.

Yeah, No problems with my 10.5" Wifi , I watch a lot of Animi and always run it fullscreen, so no black bars, also i set brightness to auto -5 when i am using it indoors.
No stuck or dead pixels, fingers crossed.
John.

@pacc @tinderbox(UK): That sounds re-assuring. Sounds like it's still safe to go ahead and acquire the device (in my case probably the 32GB WiFi 10.5" edition). Hopefully this is the general experience by most people then.
On the LCD bleeding, then yes, that can be quite annoying too!

Just be glad you did not buy the 8.4" version as that is having some problems with the display that might affect some people.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/help/tab-s-8-4-screen-homogeneity-issues-t2826661
John

I have 8.4 version and the screen is in perfect condition.

You need to use one of the screen test app to check for any problems with the screen before you buy, or the time runs out for you to return the tablet for a refund.
Some people are not bothered, good for them.
John.

I'll test it out thoroughly while it can still be returned. Thanks for the heads-up on that issue as well

If you really want to find every possible quality problem with the display, view a light gray screen in the dark, using a screen test app , set the brightness to low, look for circles and clouding, as well as dead or hot pixels.
John.
pnomandk said:
I'll test it out thoroughly while it can still be returned. Thanks for the heads-up on that issue as well
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I have an S4 I bought used and have used for about a year. It is getting heavily burned in. I am questioning how long this display will last. Hopefully by the time I need to replace it the screens will be cheap
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What was burned-in on your S4 , notification bar?, home screen icons? , were you using an navigator app? , how high did you have you brightness set?
Using an low brightness setting can reduce the change of screen burn-in, but if you live in an sunny country you most likely have the brightness set virtually to max to allow you to see the screen outside.
Thanks
John.
zombolt said:
I have an S4 I bought used and have used for about a year. It is getting heavily burned in. I am questioning how long this display will last. Hopefully by the time I need to replace it the screens will be cheap
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I decided to check for stuck pixels on my Tab S again. Turns out, I have 3 stuck ones now! They are really really tiny that I can even notice them. Took me a minute or so to search for them. In order to see them, you have to use a holo background and not full black ones. You would have to find an dark gray image or something like an inverted app but isn't full black which is a good thing for me I guess. The good thing is that they don't appear on bright colors (red,blue,white,etc) which I personally couldn't see it. A holo background or gray image is when I can see it the most. When I put a black image, its fully black with no stuck pixels in sight. So that could mean they still work and turn on and off fine. So I'm thinking it's just stuck when displaying colors other than black.
I've kept my brightness 1/4 bright all the time, only used it for watching videos and browsing the web mostly. It's been one year since I bought this and I personally don't mind it. This is what I've seen so far
Edit: using a screen filter app to darken the screen on an holo image made it show the most so I can see. This lowest stock brightness doesn't seem to show a lot unless you get close to the screen.
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A couple of weeks ago a guy bought an demo 10.5" and it had an perfect Samsung logo and stripe burned almost across the entire center of the display, the worst i have ever see.
He was asking would burning in the inverted image reduce the burn-in, I found the exact Samsung wallpaper responsible and inverted it for him, but i never heard anymore, it really needed an new screen.
John.

Should I get the Nexus 6 (Yes / No)?

As the topic title states - should I get a retail unit of the beastly N6?
I am currently a long-time Xperia user, and feels like I want to try something additional to play with - that also got a huge development support, specially on the kernel side (FLASH-O-HOLIC GUY HERE!!!). Great development rates in general for Xperia units varies a lot between the unit, as expected..
Guys, please. Point me in the proper and correct decision.
Any benefits from a Nexus unit? Huh?
*curious as *****

Destroyedbeauty said:
As the topic title states - should I get a retail unit of the beastly N6?
I am currently a long-time Xperia user, and feels like I want to try something additional to play with - that also got a huge development support, specially on the kernel side (FLASH-O-HOLIC GUY HERE!!!). Great development rates in general for Xperia units varies a lot between the unit, as expected..
Guys, please. Point me in the proper and correct decision.
Any benefits from a Nexus unit? Huh?
*curious as *****
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I have one coming to me tomorrow, I like new toys and this is 1 to add to my collection, plus there is a lot of things to try on it..

Only you can make the decision.
(desire + dev support) / known issues.

treo4life said:
I have one coming to me tomorrow, I like new toys and this is 1 to add to my collection, plus there is a lot of things to try on it..
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Only you can make the decision.
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What is the known issues with the Nexus 6? How high fail-rate does the device have in general?

Long time lurker, I just saw this thread and wanted to comment. After going through 2 of the nexus 6's, I would wait and see if Google announces anything at the end of may. There are many issues that can plague the phone:
1. horizontal or vertical banding
2. uneven "lighting" (one part of the screen appears darker than the rest
3. crackling in sound
4. battery back coming loose and popping off
5. un-even screen (the screen is not aligned properly)
On my 2 devices I had the battery back issue and the lighting issue where the top 1/3rd of my screen appeared reddish pink while the rest had a standard tint. The device is roughly 7 months old now so its almost towards the end of the life cycle. I'd hold off and see if anything else comes out that you may be interested in.

backdown00 said:
Long time lurker, I just saw this thread and wanted to comment. After going through 2 of the nexus 6's, I would wait and see if Google announces anything at the end of may. There are many issues that can plague the phone:
1. horizontal or vertical banding
2. uneven "lighting" (one part of the screen appears darker than the rest
3. crackling in sound
4. battery back coming loose and popping off
5. un-even screen (the screen is not aligned properly)
On my 2 devices I had the battery back issue and the lighting issue where the top 1/3rd of my screen appeared reddish pink while the rest had a standard tint. The device is roughly 7 months old now so its almost towards the end of the life cycle. I'd hold off and see if anything else comes out that you may be interested in.
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An Nexus6+ or Nexus 8?

I got a Nexus 6 last week, coming from Nexus 5. After the first 'wow this thing is like a tablet' the phone ist getting really fast comfortable. One hand usage is possible.
With the best community here you get tools like sweep2wake or doubletap to sleep. Its blazing fast, really nice screen (but only inside) and fells really light.
And playing games/watching movies is so nice :good:

If you're a flashaholic like you say it would be a yes.
Went from a note 3 to this device and I have no regrets. It's fast, smooth and the stereo speakers rock.

Yes sir.
Destroyedbeauty said:
As the topic title states - should I get a retail unit of the beastly N6?
I am currently a long-time Xperia user, and feels like I want to try something additional to play with - that also got a huge development support, specially on the kernel side (FLASH-O-HOLIC GUY HERE!!!). Great development rates in general for Xperia units varies a lot between the unit, as expected..
Guys, please. Point me in the proper and correct decision.
Any benefits from a Nexus unit? Huh?
*curious as *****
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Only if your a flashaholic would I say yes, this is the phone for you. If you have the time, the phone can become a monster that eats other phones for lunch. :laugh:

backdown00 said:
Long time lurker, I just saw this thread and wanted to comment. After going through 2 of the nexus 6's, I would wait and see if Google announces anything at the end of may. There are many issues that can plague the phone:
1. horizontal or vertical banding
2. uneven "lighting" (one part of the screen appears darker than the rest
3. crackling in sound
4. battery back coming loose and popping off
5. un-even screen (the screen is not aligned properly)
On my 2 devices I had the battery back issue and the lighting issue where the top 1/3rd of my screen appeared reddish pink while the rest had a standard tint. The device is roughly 7 months old now so its almost towards the end of the life cycle. I'd hold off and see if anything else comes out that you may be interested in.
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What the hell are you talking about
Every device has its quirks but you make it sound like these are widespread issues because some users reported these defects. I have non of the above defects so for me the device is perfect. And a 7 months old device is not at the end of its lifecycle. We`ll still get 2 major updates at least, try that on a Sony, HTC or Samsung
I can wholehartedly recommend this phone for its speed, good camera and other hardware and great developers support. The N6 is the best device i ever owned hands down :good:

Destroyedbeauty said:
FLASH-O-HOLIC GUY HERE!!
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Yes, you can buy a N6.
Since the beginning of this year a N6.
I've had only issues with Lollipop and Google apps.
The light material design and the kernel were causing battery drain. The text in the Gmail app is hard to read (grey text on white background; these colors can't be changed). After flashing Franco's kernel and a black Google Now Launcher and disabling not used apps and services the issue 'battery drain' was solved and that made the N6 great for daily use.
I changed the lcd-density to 384 and the font size to huge. That turns the N6 in tablet mode.
For a better grip I use a cheap ultra thin hard case from eBay. I carry the N6 in a vertical belt case.
(Still looking for a black alternative for Gmail)

I got this device and I really like it but I'm a little disappointed. i have had the nexus 5 and a note 4 also. i really like the nexus 6 for its big screen and speakers. but both of my previous devices were faster and smoother. i gave my dad the nexus 5 and my mom the note 4 and since i still use them occasionally I can fairly judge all of them. My dads nexus 5 is running cataclysm and it is a perfect experience with no bugs. the recents screen and all the animations are super smooth. My moms note 4 is running firekat and everything is smooth with no lag either. but i have the nexus 6 on chroma which is supposed to be the best rom and its not nearly as smooth. recents widows still lag and stutter and with every release there is something new wrong with it.

tonio14545 said:
I got this device and I really like it but I'm a little disappointed. i have had the nexus 5 and a note 4 also. i really like the nexus 6 for its big screen and speakers. but both of my previous devices were faster and smoother. i gave my dad the nexus 5 and my mom the note 4 and since i still use them occasionally I can fairly judge all of them. My dads nexus 5 is running cataclysm and it is a perfect experience with no bugs. the recents screen and all the animations are super smooth. My moms note 4 is running firekat and everything is smooth with no lag either. but i have the nexus 6 on chroma which is supposed to be the best rom and its not nearly as smooth. recents widows still lag and stutter and with every release there is something new wrong with it.
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Did you do a clean flash with Chroma?, i`am not xperiencing any lag or stutters on the latest version tbh.

gee2012 said:
Did you do a clean flash with Chroma?, i`am not xperiencing any lag or stutters on the latest version tbh.
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yeah i clean flashed and i have so many problems on it. expanded desktop doesn't work and the notification panel won't even pull down lol. the other problems i have i have had with every release of it. the recent windows just don't pull away smoothly they always stutter a little bit at the end. google play music will randomly stop working and i have to reboot the device to listen to music again. and for some reason chrome beta takes super long to open too. i tap on it and wait at least 5 seconds for it to open... oh and sometimes auto rotate messes up my wall paper too

tonio14545 said:
yeah i clean flashed and i have so many problems on it. expanded desktop doesn't work and the notification panel won't even pull down lol. the other problems i have i have had with every release of it. the recent windows just don't pull away smoothly they always stutter a little bit at the end. google play music will randomly stop working and i have to reboot the device to listen to music again. and for some reason chrome beta takes super long to open too. i tap on it and wait at least 5 seconds for it to open... oh and sometimes auto rotate messes up my wall paper too
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Try to reproduce these issues and post a logcat in the Chroma thread or PM them to @zephiK so he can deal with it. Thats how issues are solved

I just got one to replace a Note 4. It reminds me a lot of the Moto X, but bigger and better. Which is a wonderful thing. The Note 4 will be why I'll never buy another Touchwiz device again though, so I feel like I've been let out of a crappy prison. I'm so sick of tech reviews that use a phone for 11 days and try to tell you what's worth owning. Never again.

guthrien said:
I just got one to replace a Note 4. It reminds me a lot of the Moto X, but bigger and better. Which is a wonderful thing. The Note 4 will be why I'll never buy another Touchwiz device again though, so I feel like I've been let out of a crappy prison. I'm so sick of tech reviews that use a phone for 11 days and try to tell you what's worth owning. Never again.
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I think for everyday users, the note 4 has a lot to offer.. Great caner a hardware and software for example. Also it has that great default notification tone.. It just never gets old...
But for modders, its a no go.

gee2012 said:
What the hell are you talking about
Every device has its quirks but you make it sound like these are widespread issues because some users reported these defects. I have non of the above defects so for me the device is perfect. And a 7 months old device is not at the end of its lifecycle. We`ll still get 2 major updates at least, try that on a Sony, HTC or Samsung
I can wholehartedly recommend this phone for its speed, good camera and other hardware and great developers support. The N6 is the best device i ever owned hands down :good:
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Within another 5 months the new line of nexus devices will be out. I am not saying the nexus 6 won't be updated, but it wont be "the" device anymore. After visiting about 12 verizon wireless stores and checking out their display model, I can say I found many of the same defects I listed on all 12 models. Including my 2 that makes a sample size of 14 devices that all have some form of defect.
I am not saying this phone is not great, as I really did like it. The question was should he wait or buy now and I simply suggested wait as the next best thing is almost here already (nexus line wise) and he has waited this long, whats the difference for another 4-5 months. Since he is also buying this retail (I assume full price), the money would be better well spent on a more refined piece of hardware. The nexus 6 was google's first try at a large phone, i'm sure the next google device that comes out will perfect this.

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Long time lurker, I just saw this thread and wanted to comment. After going through 2 of the nexus 6's, I would wait and see if Google announces anything at the end of may. There are many issues that can plague the phone:
1. horizontal or vertical banding
2. uneven "lighting" (one part of the screen appears darker than the rest
3. crackling in sound
4. battery back coming loose and popping off
5. un-even screen (the screen is not aligned properly)
On my 2 devices I had the battery back issue and the lighting issue where the top 1/3rd of my screen appeared reddish pink while the rest had a standard tint. The device is roughly 7 months old now so its almost towards the end of the life cycle. I'd hold off and see if anything else comes out that you may be interested in.
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Hmmmmmm, I have had none of the described issues written here, maybe you got a Lemon? I was on the HTC phone for the past few years until they came out with the (IMHO) pathetic M9, after looking at that in one of the VZ stores, my attention drifted elsewhere. The VZ rep said sales of the M9 are real slow, at least here so it will be interesting to see what HTC does, or doesn't do.

If someone want to get ride of note 4 to get one nexus 6, I would trade for sure xD.....hate my nexus 6 lol

Amoled burn still exists??

I'm wondering whether led burning is still a problem. What is your experience on your amoled device? Are the new ones burn-free? Even after 2 years of use?

I think, it doesn't exist now.

Amoled burn-in still exists, but advancements in both the technology and production process has made it occur less often for consumers.
There are still other issues to think of other than burn-in that still exists in amoled displays today. Right now, Samsung produce the best amoled displays.

Cheese92 said:
I'm wondering whether led burning is still a problem. What is your experience on your amoled device? Are the new ones burn-free? Even after 2 years of use?
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ive got a note 5 and ive been noticing a faint line on it where my search bar sits ever so faint on a white screen
my wifes s5 is bad enough i can see the facebook icons and crap on it so i say it still exist just not as bad as it used to be

Saber said:
There are still other issues to think of other than burn-in that still exists in amoled displays today. Right now, Samsung produce the best amoled displays.
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Could you mention an example of such issues?

Thanks for the answers. This burn thing always kept me from buying amoled phones. I'm a 4-year phone type of guy. Still using Nexus 5.

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Could you mention an example of such issues?
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The use of a pentile matrix (Samsung amoled) for brighter display and lower power usage at the cost of image clarity. Colours are usually over saturated but can be adjusted to your liking.

TheMadScientist420 said:
ive got a note 5 and ive been noticing a faint line on it where my search bar sits ever so faint on a white screen
my wifes s5 is bad enough i can see the facebook icons and crap on it so i say it still exist just not as bad as it used to be
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It has become very little but still exists. Noticed it on my friend's mobile.

Its getting worse on my note 5. Like i said i can read the icons on fb on my wifes s5. I remeber a old s3 i had though was horrible screen burned. I dont even care any more i switch devices so much i got this note5 now but 2 weeks from now i may have something else