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I've had my Nexus One for 2 years now and have had a few different ROMs on it. I've been pretty loyal to Cyanogen and used Kangarama for a while which was a Cyanogen base. Currently I'm using CM 7.1 with Intersectraven's kernel and it is fast and smooth. The only thing is, I've grown bored of CM lately.
My wife has a Samsung Vibrant and I've taken her from Simply Honey to CM 7 to ICS Passion and now to MIUI. Each ROM was drastically different than the one before. She loves MIUI now and told me she wants to keep that one for a long time. I messed with it for a while and have to admit that it is pretty cool.
I started thinking: should I go to CM nightlies for a change or should I use MIUI? I have some hangups about MIUI though. I figured yous guys are the ones to ask about this. Is MIUI as customizable as CM 7? Is it as fast? Are the CM 7 nightlies currently stable enough for use as a daily driver? My knowledge of Android is strong enough that I've used nightlies before and understand that there are bugs but is the currently a build where pretty much everything works? Do the nightlies currently have many more new faetures than CM 7.1 or are they a lot the same?
I don't normally ask questions like this but today I figured what the hell? I would just flash and try them out but I use DarkTremor's A2SD and I've never had luck with a new ROM unless I do a Titanium backup, backup my SD to my computer, wipe and repartition my SD card, copy the data back to my FAT partition, flash, reinstall A2SD, then restore from Titanium. That makes the process take a couple of hours for me.
Any info/opinions on the subject would be appreciated and thanx in advance.
For me, nightlies never were an option and will most likely never be. Weeklies at least.
I used to have MIUI.us and it was ok. Fast and everything, but I soon got to realize that MIUI wasn't for me. Too "flashy". I use samuaz's CM7.2 build with IntersectRaven's kernel and it's fast and stable and all that. A little bored with CM7 now but the only reason I use it is while waiting for a stable ICS/CM9 build.
Theshawty said:
For me, nightlies never were an option and will most likely never be. Weeklies at least.
I used to have MIUI.us and it was ok. Fast and everything, but I soon got to realize that MIUI wasn't for me. Too "flashy". I use samuaz's CM7.2 build with IntersectRaven's kernel and it's fast and stable and all that. A little bored with CM7 now but the only reason I use it is while waiting for a stable ICS/CM9 build.
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I'll look into that build. Thanx for the fast response.
I'm not pumped for an ICS build until they get the kernel needed for full hardware acceleration. When I put ICS Passion on my wife's Vibrant, it ran well with few FC's but it didn't have full hardware acceleration either and it was pretty darned slow compared to other ROMs I've put on there. That is why I ended up putting MIUI on her phone. She couldn't stand the slowness.
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I'll look into that build. Thanx for the fast response.
I'm not pumped for an ICS build until they get the kernel needed for full hardware acceleration. When I put ICS Passion on my wife's Vibrant, it ran well with few FC's but it didn't have full hardware acceleration either and it was pretty darned slow compared to other ROMs I've put on there. That is why I ended up putting MIUI on her phone. She couldn't stand the slowness.
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I too will put ICS on hold until it's got all I want in it.
MIUI is very highly "theme-able", though, considering you can mix and match themes as you wish. Let's say you wish to have an ICS lockscreen theme and a completely different SMS theme while having a third dialer theme. No problemo there.
Theshawty said:
I too will put ICS on hold until it's got all I want in it.
MIUI is very highly "theme-able", though, considering you can mix and match themes as you wish. Let's say you wish to have an ICS lockscreen theme and a completely different SMS theme while having a third dialer theme. No problemo there.
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Where do I find samuaz's 7.2? I looked in his github and didn't see it and his website is in another language so I was lost.
DigitalJedi said:
Where do I find samuaz's 7.2? I looked in his github and didn't see it and his website is in another language so I was lost.
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Here's his topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416894
But you'll have to put up with downloading it from depositfiles, though ^^
If your using CM7, there is no need to switch to nightlies. There were only a handful released after 7.1 stable was released. If there were any changes, they were minor.
I have tried MIUI, and while it is nice, it isn't for me. While the scrolling between screens is always butter smooth, the menu system often lags, and since it is chinese developed, there are a few things which are in chineese (theme names pulled from the web), and some things don't work to well (like the lyrics and album art function of the music app). I would occasionally get freezes and FC's.
MIUI is a very nice polished ROM with a lot of nice bells ans whistles that make it look really stunning, but it just doesn't seem to always play nice with the android framework.
I too am bored of CM7, and am like everyone else waiting for a decent ICS build. I tried texasice and it works fantastic for the amount of time that has been put into it, but it's not quite up to daily driver status.
If you are interested in trying different ROM's to see which you should use mainly, I highly suggest Boot Manager. It lets you boot different ROM's from your sdcard, so your main ROM is untouched. It doesn't work with ICS yet, but it is an excellent app.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.drx2.bootmanager&hl=en
It's suggested you use at least a class 6 sdcard, but I have had few problems with my class 4.
I really appreciate all the dev work that goes into the ROM ecosystem, and I know how much time is involved... but the bugs are killing me. This phone is only 2 years old!
What ROMs are still actively maintained?
CM7 porting for this device has stalled
MIUI porting has stalled
Bugless Beast?
I've had major bugs on all of those that have made me go shop around.
Any hints?
-m
Kfazz's ics port, which is pre-alpha. No call audio yet.
Yep. That's it. Time for a new phone. I'm due for one next month.
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I only know cm7 is very stable. Why you ned a rom with daily releases? there are enough roms without big bugs.
HO!NO! CM7 Rom is very active, too.
Steel Droid
CM7
HO!NO!
Ultimate milestone (though it hasn't updated since November)
MIUI
Those are the ones that I know of which are still being developed recently.
Frostmod 1.5
this rom was just released a few days ago and he will be working on it later but its a great rom! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374041
Believe actngrezy is building PE7, no release date, chevycam is building Steel Droid 10-possible March release, & still believe cush still working on new building.
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I'm currently running liquid 3.2 and have not had any issues at all, I know this rom is not actively being developed, but if your looking for something stable check it out.
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Hum, CM7 still is being developed (there are updates in the source code), it just hasn't been enough for a release yet. You can always build the code yourself, though familiarity with Linux is a must.
Nadlabak / Kabaldan is focusing on bringing ICS to the milestone though, and I must say I support his decision - it's already running quite smoothly! If he keeps up the pace, everything will be up and running withing a few months or so
I dunno I seem to remember there being Nightly's and stable releases. Now we have Unofficial Nightly's. Why? This isnt going to continue is it? Eventually we will get back to just Nightly's and Stable right? Not that its a big deal just seems unnecessary.
As I look through the threads I see there are a good number of people running these Unoffical Nightlys so maybe someone can explain to me the difference between Official and Unofficial. Are they that bad that they cant be official? If they are that bad why are so many people running them? Seems to reason that the unofficial is stable enough so cant we just make them official for god sakes. I mean really whats the worst that can happen? Its not like Cyanogen is going to be sued. Its already assumed that official nightlys are not going to be stable so whats the problem?
Official is being built by the Cyanogen servers and released at their discretion. The unofficials are users creating their own builds (usually with modifications) and being released separately.
That being said, CM7 has been in development for a while so there are both nightlies and stable releases. CM9 is still in early development, and Cyanogen team hasn't been releasing nightlies yet. The ones you see are users releasing it on their own.
You're either not very smart or a terrible reader. Unofficial simply means private individuals are taking it upon themselves to regularly post private builds that they made themselves, for others to take for a test drive. Official builds would come directly from CM, which has not happened yet.
Get a clue.
Perhaps your highness would be kind and gracious enough to direct us to a place where we could read that explanation (assuming, of course, that we can read such lofty material)..
Tongue firmly in cheek.. but.. hey Dude.. lighten up.
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You're either not very smart or a terrible reader. Unofficial simply means private individuals are taking it upon themselves to regularly post private builds that they made themselves, for others to take for a test drive. Official builds would come directly from CM, which has not happened yet.
Get a clue.
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Yep those are the only two possible reasons for me not knowing whats going on.
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I dunno I seem to remember there being Nightly's and stable releases. Now we have Unofficial Nightly's. Why? This isnt going to continue is it? Eventually we will get back to just Nightly's and Stable right? Not that its a big deal just seems unnecessary.
As I look through the threads I see there are a good number of people running these Unoffical Nightlys so maybe someone can explain to me the difference between Official and Unofficial. Are they that bad that they cant be official? If they are that bad why are so many people running them? Seems to reason that the unofficial is stable enough so cant we just make them official for god sakes. I mean really whats the worst that can happen? Its not like Cyanogen is going to be sued. Its already assumed that official nightlys are not going to be stable so whats the problem?
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I'm kind of confused due to your confusion
What "Unofficial Nightly's" and "Official Nightly's" you are seeing?
Don't tell me that you are confusing the Official Nightly's of CM7 and the Unofficial Nightly's of CM9.
Two different things.
Im sorry! Im trying to keep up with the development of the Nook Color, HTC Droid Eris, and the Galaxy Nexus and I lost it. LOL Not too mention my search for the perfect router to finally rid me of that god awful Linksys WRT54GS combined with the overkill Smoothwall finally ended. My home network has been in shambles till recently. Again I apologize. Its purely my mixup and clearly nothing to do with the information provided at XDA. I just needed to search a bit more. Or I could have asked like I did here but maybe in a more positive tone. Im sorry for that as well.
So I recently purchased the GNEX and I love ICS. OMG I cant tell you how nice it is to finally have a proper smart phone with polished Android Goodness. I want the same for my Nook. From what ive read so far the "Unofficial Builds" seem to run pretty good. Users reporting it runs as good as CM7. Is this true? I mainly use my Nook for watching Netflix and Hulu. I do some light browsing as well. Would the latest build work well enough for me to hop in now?
Thanks for your help and understanding!
I don't know how far but CM9 is far from stable as CM7
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Im sorry! Im trying to keep up with the development of the Nook Color, HTC Droid Eris, and the Galaxy Nexus and I lost it. LOL Not too mention my search for the perfect router to finally rid me of that god awful Linksys WRT54GS combined with the overkill Smoothwall finally ended. My home network has been in shambles till recently. Again I apologize. Its purely my mixup and clearly nothing to do with the information provided at XDA. I just needed to search a bit more. Or I could have asked like I did here but maybe in a more positive tone. Im sorry for that as well.
So I recently purchased the GNEX and I love ICS. OMG I cant tell you how nice it is to finally have a proper smart phone with polished Android Goodness. I want the same for my Nook. From what ive read so far the "Unofficial Builds" seem to run pretty good. Users reporting it runs as good as CM7. Is this true? I mainly use my Nook for watching Netflix and Hulu. I do some light browsing as well. Would the latest build work well enough for me to hop in now?
Thanks for your help and understanding!
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Awesome. Reading comprehension skills FTW.
CM9 is nice. Personally, I'd wait for solid wifi and any true resolution on HW accel.
CM7 had 'official' stable releases and 'official' nightlies built by the CyanogenMod automated build process. The last stable was 7.1 but there were nightlies after that which continued to fix some remaining problems.
Back in mid November 2011 the build process suffered from some hardware failures and the nightlies stopped appearing. At the same time ICS was being released and the devs switched their attention to that (CM9) and, although the build process got repaired, the CM7 nightlies were never restarted.
There were some outstanding issues in CM7 that had got fixed but never built by the official process into either a stable or a nightly. That is where the 'unofficial' builds stepped in and built new ROMS from the source incorporating the latest fixes and including some other improvements. The most common of these is the MiRaGe build found in the thread in development and that has been very stable, gives great performance and is often referred to as 7.2
CM9 is effectively still in an alpha form and does not have official nightlies or 'stables' yet. The developers did encourage people to learn how to build ROMS from the source and some have now made these 'unofficial' nightlies available.
Some find these unofficial CM9 nightlies good and stable enough for daily use; I am one. There are trade offs; the CM7 ROMS are generally a bit snappier in performance and there are one or two limitations in CM9 functionality (e.g. hw video acceleration) but this is balanced by a significantly nicer user interface and functionality in CM9. You just choose based on what is important to you.
Nandroid backups are always your friend and allows you try out various options at low risk and just a few minutes to fully restore to a former point.
Thanks for the summary and info.
But how well does Hulu and Netflix work? Right now thats the most important thing.
Im currently running CM7 stable with the processor clocked at 925. I see alot of people running overclock kernels so when you say CM9 isnt as snappy to which are you comparing to. Low end or high?
Either. I'm running CM9 at 1200 right now and there is still lag (haven't done any tweaks though, working on other things). Besides that, I don't think Netflix is working on CM9 yet. If you are wanting stability, smoothness, and more application compatibility, CM9 isn't quite there yet.
It's funny how the people calling the OP clueless seem blissfully unaware of the situation with nightlies the last few months, but bobtidey broke it down well. The automated system for CM7 nightlies is broken, but the updated source is still available, and some people are sharing their builds from source (MiRaGe being the most reliable atm).
If Hulu and Netflix are your priorities, CM9 is probably not for you just yet. You can try it out a number of ways,
As bobtidey said, back up your current build, flash CM9, and if you're not happy go back.
Set it up on SD--there's a link in my sig for that, just grab CM9 and a compatible gapps instead of CM7.
Repartition the NC and set up a dual boot like mine (also linked in my sig) with MiRaGe's CM7.2 and Samiam's CM9.
If you just want a fresher flavor and don't want to mess around too much, I'd say go w/ MiRaGe's build.
Blah! It is what it is. As stated things have been pretty hectic around here. Now that I think of it things are always hectic. So I overlooked something and needed correction.
I just may dual boot. Ive wanted to try MiRaGe for awhile now anyways. I hear great things. Should be a nice upgrade over CM7 stable right? Thanks for info!
Hi i just bought a new Hp touchpad.
I want to know what is the best rom for it.
I know that there are cyanogen 7 and 9 ports.
There are things that are not working on some of them , so if cynogen 7 is working and stable i think i would install that and wait for cyanogen 9 to become stable.
Can you give some advice , what to do , which rom shoud i install.
Thank you , and sorry if this is a noob question
CM9 alpha 2, its stable and actually running better than cm7
There are also several "kang" builds in the Dev section. I've been running CherryKang lately, with good results.
Thans guys , so have you had any problems with these roms?
Except the camera are there some other quirks?
And do you know how long is the period between releases ?
Thanks again
boban984 said:
Thans guys , so have you had any problems with these roms?
Except the camera are there some other quirks?
And do you know how long is the period between releases ?
Thanks again
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The cherryrom still doesn't have Netflix working but has HD YouTube working (it states that in his top post). The nightlies have everything working from alpha2 with only a couple changes that will be merged into the next official release anyways. The cornerstone ROM is really slow and bricked ROM hasn't seen public releases after alpha2. And there's protekk's AOKP and classnerd, neither have Netflix working either.
I say go for the nightly. And I guess development has slowed because everyone is waiting on dalingrin for new stuff. I'm guessing the kernel is going to be updated to 3.0 and or they're working on audio.
Samsung Captivate CM9 - Glitch Kernel | HP TouchPad CM9 - Bricked Kernel
I honestly haven't tried Netflix (I guess it's not working), and only a few games. There are a few notable ones that don't work, but for normal stuff it's all good. The main problem that I've had with CM (I've only used CM9 and skipped CM7), is that the TP will essentially lock up, often times when charging on the touchstone charger. That said, ever since upgrading to the latest CherryKang (0.9), I haven't had a single issue (knock on wood). I have tried Bricked and the official CM9 alpha and both did the same thing, so I think it's just a Cm issue (there are a few similar issues going around, it seems).
Go for AOKP.
M4 has working netflix and youtube.
I personally haven't found a rock solid rom , but there are a few that are really close to it. I'd say try the new cherry-kang v9.2 with o/c , HD youtube' + netkflix etc. Syn(3.10.2012). Its fast and reliable. I have to reset my Wi-Fi the least with this one.
I'm running aokp and nextflix and YouTube work no problem for me
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"I personally haven't found a rock solid rom , but there are a few that are really close to it. I'd say try the new cherry-kang v9.2 with o/c , HD youtube' + netkflix etc. Syn(3.10.2012). Its fast and reliable. I have to reset my Wi-Fi the least with this one."
I'd have to agree with the above post, the latest CherryKang (standard cm9 version, not the bricked rom) has proven the most stable for me. Unless you expect to be using the camera/microphone a great deal on the TouchPad, I would definitely suggest taking the jump to CM9.
I did just flash the Cornerstone 1.1 rom w/ 120 DPI patch, and although there have been a couple of very minor glitches, it's performing fairly well so far. (I was forced to reboot my TP-audio distortion- and my wifi reconnected without me having to use the forget the network/reboot rescue method. I haven't personally tried the AOKP Milestone 4 rom, so you might want to check out that thread and decide for yourself.
As for your question on release dates, other than the nightlies, they come out whenever the developer has something new to put out. Since I've been following these forums, it's generally taboo to openly ask a developer for the next release date. Doing so may make you susceptible to verbal reprimand from other members. Personally I'm not blasting you, but I don't want to see someone else fire back at you in a more harsh manner in the future.
Good luck with whichever rom you decide to flash!
HTC Thunderbolt - Shifts3ns3 3.1; HP Touchpad CherryKang v9.2;
I've recently been running AOKP M4 with great results, I like it
CyanogenMod 9 Alpha 2 is also fantastic
I wouldn't really suggest any others though.
I have cm9 on mine and Wifi doesn't reconnect a lot after waking from sleep. Ill check out this cherry one I guess.
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I'd vote for AOKP. Its running really well on my touchpad.
I know we have some wonderful progress with CM9 and AOKP builds of Android 4.0, but is it possible for someone to build CM 7.1 for the Droid 4? Considering all the drivers seem stable enough on ICS, and most of what I was running in to as problems seemed related to CM9, not hardware, and I have heard of a front-facing-camera fix, it would seem this should not be too difficult if one actually knows what they're doing. (I am afraid I don't. )
I would really prefer to run CM 7.1 to stock; it would be great to have this for a few months until CM9 or AOKP are stable enough for every-day use.
i dont think it is really worth anybody's time getting CM7 going on this phone... the future is ICS/CM9 and everybody wants ICS/CM9 because it simply is better.
are there bugs in the CM9 we have right now? yup, its a beta and you have to expect it. i would rather the few devs we have working on this phone to get us a flawless CM9 than push out an equally buggy CM7 which brings me to my next point... what makes you assume that a CM7 build for the D4 would be flawless?
tldr; No.
All the bugs I encountered were CM related or Android 4 related. Camera drivers for Gingerbread are well supported, as is the Radio. Missing menu entries or incomplete implementation is purely CM 9. Essentially, Android is just Linux, so it just needs a working driver, and everything runs on top of that. Since the D4 is already 2.3.5, it should be just about as easy as dropping in the new drivers, tweak the DPI and Camera resolution, and let users test. I just don't have a capable computer or time between classes to try building it myself, since I would have a lot to learn before success.
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id use it i hate the stock rom