Hello.
I deleted with ES File Explorer the .apk's from /system/app/
those apps had no .odex files.
they dissapeared from menu, market, app manager...
but the internal phone hasn't cleared the space.
Now what?
i was looking forward to gain some more space for other useful apps.
why not just use s2e or a2sd to increase your space? this would be less problematic i guess
never try to delete any system apps as they can create a problem for u afterwards better use s2e to max up your internal space
The internal memory is calculated from freespace in /data partition, that's why deleting application from /system/app will not affect free internal memory. You have to use app like darktremor a2sd, s2e, or ungaze to add freespace to install more app.
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greenAlgae said:
The internal memory is calculated from freespace in /data partition, that's why deleting application from /system/app will not affect free internal memory. You have to use app like darktremor a2sd, s2e, or ungaze to add freespace to install more app.
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i looked at first in that folder. but with your info and a better search i found those memory-consuming-app-remains: /data/dalvik-cache/
moved them to SD, just to be sure.
after that, the internal free memory got bigger.
i did that because i don't need/want demo games/apps.
and thank you all, i will try and use the memory card to install apps.
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I'm really surprised that there is no documentation on this thing that I can understand. I'm having major issues with CM7 with DT A2SD. Every one of my widgets is broken. I can't tell what's installed to EXT and what's not. If I go into Manage Applications, all of the widget apps are installed to phone. I have next to zero internal space left.
I need to know how I can differentiate what's on internal, what's on Froyo SD, and what's on DT A2SD - As well as how to move them and tell where each app is going.
i honestly wish i knew. this is on my list to do, but i didnt feel like formatting my memory card cause there's so much on it, so i am just hoping gingerbread improved method will give me enough space.
i wish there was a tutorial or wiki for DT A2SD. you prob should just read that whole thread and it is explained there somewhere.
Some quick commands executed from adb shell or even the terminal on the phone can give you some more information:
a2sd check will give you basic diagnostic information from the DT a2sd script - this will reveal what is running where (apps on /sd-ext, data location, etc).
ls -al /data will help you understand what a2sd actually does for you. If a2sd is set up correctly, you should see an entry similar to "app --> /sd-ext/app", which indicates your /data/app directory is symbolically-linked to your /sd-ext partition (the ext-formatted partition on your SD card). This makes Android see /sd-ext/app and /data/app as the exact same thing, and everything within that folder will actually reside on the /sd-ext partition. The same thing applies to the dalvik-cache.
You can find out more about using a2sd via the a2sd help command, which shows an easy-to-understand listing of the various a2sd commands available.
All the documentation is in DarkTremor's thread.
There is no choosing in A2SD. If it's installed - all apps that are shown as "internal" go to EXT partition. But the phone doesn't know it, and you won't see it in OS visually in any place.
You can choose if you're sending your app data and your Dalvik-cache to SD also, that you can do from the Terminal (command line).
I should probably mention that all apps that are installed to SD using stock Froyo method, remain there - and cause a waste of space. So using A2SD you should move ALL your apps to "internal memory" (substituted with EXT partition).
This is a handy link for Darktremor users...
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=158826790833326
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Hmm.. maybe I should had included some more info.
If I use Root Explorer and check my sd-ext folder, it does have apps within, and from install date I can tell they're from my CM7 install (plus I wiped everything including SD-EXT before flashing anyway). The problem is that some of these apps are things I do NOT want on SD-FAT or SD-EXT, I need them on internal (basically anything that I use with widgets, and LauncherPro). Pretty sure having widgets on EXT is what's causing my home screens to **** the bed.
Checked Install Location, right now that's set to Automatic.
If I go to Manage Applications, these apps appear to be on internal (Move to SD card is available on the button). I've read the FB page and original thread, I still see no way to differentiate between Internal, SD-FAT and SD-EXT - or how to move them between with certainty.
/sd-ext is the same as internal for all intents and purposes. You don't choose what apps to run off of /sd-ext, they all do. This is not causing your widget issues.
If you use DT a2sd, "Internal" becomes synonymous with "sd-ext". They are one and the same.
You SHOULD, however, move all of your apps off of SD-FAT - that is the implementation of "apps to sd" that breaks widgets.
Ok, I moved all of my apps off of SD-FAT and back to internal.. seems to be going well so far. The only thing I'm curious about now is that I didn't really get any space back, I still only have 21MB free (cleared browser and market cache as well). I've obviously messed something up somewhere along the line. Any ideas? I'm such a n00b at this apparently.
I really appreciate the help thus far guys!
You shouldn't have. Your space doesn't change as a result of moving apps to SD and back anymore - because they're all either on EXT, or partially on EXT and partially on FAT32.
If you don't have enough space left on internal memory - which can happen, if you have a lot of apps and they use a lot of data - you can move app data to SD and also Dalvik-cache to SD. This is done using command line commands.
One of those is usually enough.
I prefer the Dalvik-cache on SD - it might be a bit slower (never noticed that), but at least system settings (that are stored in /data/data) remain on the phone's internal memory and aren't prone to corruption.
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You shouldn't have. Your space doesn't change as a result of moving apps to SD and back anymore - because they're all either on EXT, or partially on EXT and partially on FAT32.
If you don't have enough space left on internal memory - which can happen, if you have a lot of apps and they use a lot of data - you can move app data to SD and also Dalvik-cache to SD. This is done using command line commands.
One of those is usually enough.
I prefer the Dalvik-cache on SD - it might be a bit slower (never noticed that), but at least system settings (that are stored in /data/data) remain on the phone's internal memory and aren't prone to corruption.
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On that note, moving the dalvik-cache is generally a better idea than moving /data/data. Better stability and compatibility and whatnot. Only bother with moving /data/data if you really really need the space.
You can move the dalvik-cache to sd with the a2sd cachesd command in either the terminal or adb shell.
OH MAN THANK YOU! Moved dalvik to SD-EXT and that did it! 120MB free! Time for a downloading spree!
level5music said:
OH MAN THANK YOU! Moved dalvik to SD-EXT and that did it! 120MB free! Time for a downloading spree!
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Glad to help
Hi,
on Gingerbread/CM7, is there a way to put more apps to the /system partition? I am always low on space for apps, even though i have moved almost all my apps to sd using the A2SD function. Currently, only market and rommanager are on /system, i would like to move some more gapps to /system if possiblr.
PS. DT apps2sd is no option for me since it keeps on crashing my nexus one.
Thanks!
Use Root Explorer from the market and move the .APK's to /system/app. Other alternative is to use the premium version of Titanium Backup and use the option to "integrate update into ROM."
Beedee2 said:
Hi,
on Gingerbread/CM7, is there a way to put more apps to the /system partition? I am always low on space for apps, even though i have moved almost all my apps to sd using the A2SD function. Currently, only market and rommanager are on /system, i would like to move some more gapps to /system if possiblr.
PS. DT apps2sd is no option for me since it keeps on crashing my nexus one.
Thanks!
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i just finally switched to yesterday's CM7 nightly, and with moving all my apps to the SD card with just the standard (but improved via gingerbread) a2sd method, i now have 130MB free space with 81 apps installed. i wonder if the new release puts some things on system partition automatically that i dont know about.
RogerPodacter said:
i just finally switched to yesterday's CM7 nightly, and with moving all my apps to the SD card with just the standard (but improved via gingerbread) a2sd method, i now have 130MB free space with 81 apps installed. i wonder if the new release puts some things on system partition automatically that i dont know about.
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Thanks, I think the 130MB is your free space on the sd-card? Isn't 130MB about the total space available for apps?
Rod3 said:
Use Root Explorer from the market and move the .APK's to /system/app. Other alternative is to use the premium version of Titanium Backup and use the option to "integrate update into ROM."
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Thanks, Root explorer does the trick! Isn't Titanium's "integrate update into ROM" only available for apps that are already in the system dir?
Beedee2 said:
Thanks, Root explorer does the trick! Isn't Titanium's "integrate update into ROM" only available for apps that are already in the system dir?
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Sorry, yes. But this a handy feature because even though you may have a app stored within \system\app, if you install a market update, the update will go to \data\app. You would then need to manually move the update to \system\app and replace the old .apk file. If you don't, then the app is stored in 2 places and is an inefficient use of memory.
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Thanks, I think the 130MB is your free space on the sd-card? Isn't 130MB about the total space available for apps?
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No that is my internal free space. I just moved all apps to the card with the standard froyo method.
Rod3 said:
Use Root Explorer from the market and move the .APK's to /system/app. Other alternative is to use the premium version of Titanium Backup and use the option to "integrate update into ROM."
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So I can just manually move apps with root explorer to free up space? I'll give it a shot.
Sorry I have 110 free, not 130. I just checked.
Dumb question, once I move the app It no longer opens cause it has moved. How exactly do I handle this? I tried the market, vending, for example.
Never mind, change permissions then reboot solved it. BTW strangely before you reboot the free space actually goes in the opposite direction showing less free space after the move, till a reboot.
Glad it worked for you Roger. Personally, I have never had to change the permissions, but just needed to make sure I renamed the update exactly the same as was in system, reboot and enjoy.
Seems to be working well. I'm still confused how I have so much free space. It says 114mb free right now with 81 apps installed. Granted they are just regular sized apps, nothing huge.
First of all, i have a S5830i rooted, odexed phone. I have linked ALL my apps to SD via Link2SD app.
I used to have around 100mb free but after a few days that became 90mb. I thought to try a wipe dalvik cache and after the reboot i had 78mb free!
I saw in many other screenshots that there are people with 130+ or even 150+ mb of free space internal memory.
How do they achieve that? Why i have only 78mb of free internal memory while i don't have any apps installed there?
I hope someone can assist me with that.
Thanks in advance.
AntrikoS said:
I saw in many other screenshots that there are people with 130+ or even 15+ mb of free space internal memory.
How do they achieve that? Why i have only 78mb of free internal memory while i don't have any apps installed there?
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you are not clear with your question
u saw people have 15 mb free.. and when you have 78 mb free. you should be happy
i'm sorry i misstyped i mean 150mb not 15... 78mb free space seems too low since i don't have any apps installed in my internal storage.
As far as i know, Not all app data is copied to sd card with link 2sd. Did u think about trying a Script like "cronmod" or amarullz? Or s2e app which is, in my opinion, better than link2sd.
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link to sd never moves your dalvik cache and data to sd partition..
I would recommend you to use s2e if you are on CM7.x
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charlessxavier said:
link to sd never moves your dalvik cache and data to sd partition..
I would recommend you to use s2e if you are on CM7.x
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Link2sd moves apps apk, dalvik-cache dex, and libraries lib to the partition. Data of apps stay on internal /data.
Wiping dalvik cache (from recovery for example, or with adb) causes link2sd to loose the symbolic links used to store data, which messes up your app's location in a pretty nasty way.
Open link2sd, filter your linked apps, select all of them with menu > multi select > select all, then link app+dex+lib. If there were parts of an app that weren't linked this fixes it. Reboot. Also from link2sd clean app cache.
Finally, check your data/local address with a root explorer and make sure there aren't copies of apk files you already linked. If there are copies, delete them, reboot.
Edit: moving /data of apps to the partition frees up more memory, but lowers performance, specially with sdcards class 6 and below, and partitions which are ext2 or fat32.
Hi Folks,
Executive summary:
I'm trying to install an app that is around 30MB. I have 90MB of internal memory available. It won't download and complains there is not enough memory.
Gory detail:
I have a 32 GB SD card partitioned into 10GB (ext2) and 20 (FAT32) and I use Link2SD to automatically install apps on the ext2 partition. That is working fine.
There is an app in Samsung Apps, issued by the education department, that I need for my son's upcoming spelling bee. The app is around 30MB. When I try to download it, it complains that there is not enough internal memory and that I should delete some files, make space, etc.
Relevant information:
1. There is 90MB available on the internal memory and the app is 30MB.
2. The app should automatically be installed on the SD card anyway, and so not be concerned about the internal memory in the first place.
3. Other, smaller apps from Samsung Apps install without complaint directly onto the SD card.
The figure of 90MB is from Settings > Applications > Manage Applications and also from Link2SD > Settings > Storage Info. Same number.
The phone is rooted and running Gingerbread 2.3.6.
Thanks in advance.
2ways said:
Hi Folks,
Executive summary:
I'm trying to install an app that is around 30MB. I have 90MB of internal memory available. It won't download and complains there is not enough memory.
Gory detail:
I have a 32 GB SD card partitioned into 10GB (ext2) and 20 (FAT32) and I use Link2SD to automatically install apps on the ext2 partition. That is working fine.
There is an app in Samsung Apps, issued by the education department, that I need for my son's upcoming spelling bee. The app is around 30MB. When I try to download it, it complains that there is not enough internal memory and that I should delete some files, make space, etc.
Relevant information:
1. There is 90MB available on the internal memory and the app is 30MB.
2. The app should automatically be installed on the SD card anyway, and so not be concerned about the internal memory in the first place.
3. Other, smaller apps from Samsung Apps install without complaint directly onto the SD card.
The figure of 90MB is from Settings > Applications > Manage Applications and also from Link2SD > Settings > Storage Info. Same number.
The phone is rooted and running Gingerbread 2.3.6.
Thanks in advance.
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Did you move the dalvik-cache partition?
Dalvik-cache needs space too to install and run the app so clean it and then try to install this app again
Viper The Ripper said:
Did you move the dalvik-cache partition?
Dalvik-cache needs space too to install and run the app so clean it and then try to install this app again
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Thanks for getting back to me.
In setting up Link2SD, a new dalvik-cache folder was set up on the 2nd partition on the SD card and the default action for all new apps is to put dalvik-cache files there. There is still the old dalvik-cache folder on /data.
I used Link2SD to clear all the cache folders and got another 10 MB free of internal memory.
Running df in a terminal I get:
/data size-180MB, used-76MB, free-104MB
Which should mean that the 'old' dalvik-cache folder has plenty of room to expand and shouldn't be stopping the installation of a single new app. Again, of course, any new apps should have their dalvik-cache files added to the SD partition anyway, rather than the original one.
Is their something I'm not understanding about the dalvik-cache?
Thanks for the help.
2ways said:
Thanks for getting back to me.
In setting up Link2SD, a new dalvik-cache folder was set up on the 2nd partition on the SD card and the default action for all new apps is to put dalvik-cache files there. There is still the old dalvik-cache folder on /data.
I used Link2SD to clear all the cache folders and got another 10 MB free of internal memory.
Running df in a terminal I get:
/data size-180MB, used-76MB, free-104MB
Which should mean that the 'old' dalvik-cache folder has plenty of room to expand and shouldn't be stopping the installation of a single new app. Again, of course, any new apps should have their dalvik-cache files added to the SD partition anyway, rather than the original one.
Is their something I'm not understanding about the dalvik-cache?
Thanks for the help.
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You're right, smply I thought that your dalvik-cache partition was full and it was the reason you couldn't install anything, but it's weird :S :S :S
For this and many other reasons I don't like to use link2sd, I prefer int2ext+ script; safe, simple, fast, doesn't touch the dalvik-cache partition and keep /data in /data place
AFAIK Link2sd don't move "apps" strictly, It link apps to sd-ext partition, so a part of apps are installed in /data (internal memory) and the rest (the heaviest) in your sd-ext partition
It could be helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313327&highlight=about+link2sd
BTW you can wait for the replies from fellows better informed on such issues
Thanks for your help.
It's my wife's phone and I'll be away from home now until next week, so can't pursue the solution any further just now, but I haven't given up!
I'll be back on this thread come Monday, and I'll definitely have a look at int2ext.
Thanks again.
Viper The Ripper said:
You're right, smply I thought that your dalvik-cache partition was full and it was the reason you couldn't install anything, but it's weird :S :S :S
For this and many other reasons I don't like to use link2sd, I prefer int2ext+ script; safe, simple, fast, doesn't touch the dalvik-cache partition and keep /data in /data place
AFAIK Link2sd don't move "apps" strictly, It link apps to sd-ext partition, so a part of apps are installed in /data (internal memory) and the rest (the heaviest) in your sd-ext partition
It could be helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2313327&highlight=about+link2sd
BTW you can wait for the replies from fellows better informed on such issues
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Sorry for the Off-Topic, but my battery drained faster with int2sd.. do you faced the same problems?
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Blackbox421 said:
Sorry for the Off-Topic, but my battery drained faster with int2sd.. do you faced the same problems?
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It's normal I suppose due to Read/Write cycles, but it's better (less cycles) than swap partition (reduce your sdcard's life drastically)
Couldn't Install on USB Storage or SD Card
If, while installing your app, its showing "Couldn't Install on USB Storage or SD Card", then I've got just the solution. You could either fix it permanently,temporarily or do a method each time before you install your app.
Permanent Method
1) If your device is running on 2.2.1 or 2.3.6 android version, upgrade it to 3.4.5 ICS or 4.1.1 Jellybean. If the problem is solved then, don't worry, your problem has been permanently fixed.
Temporary Method
1) Backup your SD Card files and format it. Don't worry, it won't affect your partitions. I cannot guarantee you that this thing won't come up again. It may not but there is still a chance.
2) Before installing your apps, Go to Settings>Storage Info>Unmount SD Card. Select this each time before you install anything. Your app will be installed on to your Phone memory. After installing, Go to Settings again and Mount your SD Card. And of course, you could then Link your app to your partition or whatsoever...
I'll recommend Temporary Method 2 as it is would be easy for you if you're a newbie...Hope that this helped...Thanks:highfive:
Hello!
I've installed a SlimKat rom (4.4.2), and I've installed two apps, both 30MB, and now I can't install any app, because it says: "Not enough memory". I've noticed on applications, that only 1,8GB is used, and 200MB is free. And now, there is a question: How to increase this memory, if the phone has internal 16 GB of memory, to make apps use more of it, like from this 2GB to 4GB or sth. On previous ROM's that I've installed I had the same problem, but it was like 300mb available, and I was able to move some apps to SD card, but not every app is movable, so plese, help me increase this available memory for applications.
Thanks.
Check you data partition and delete the lost+found folder..
nokiamodeln91 said:
Check you data partition and delete the lost+found folder..
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Lost-found folder was empty.
Data/logs?
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Data/logs?
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Data /data 35mb that are needed, logs empty. Its a fresh ROM, installed after full whipe, no unwanted files found SO far, but i don't know what uses this 1.8 gigs of memory...
Use SD maid to scan files.. It should show some info you need.
I did data whipe and installed ROM again, now it's ok. Dunno what used this 1.8 gigs of memory.