[Q] More apps in system partition - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
on Gingerbread/CM7, is there a way to put more apps to the /system partition? I am always low on space for apps, even though i have moved almost all my apps to sd using the A2SD function. Currently, only market and rommanager are on /system, i would like to move some more gapps to /system if possiblr.
PS. DT apps2sd is no option for me since it keeps on crashing my nexus one.
Thanks!

Use Root Explorer from the market and move the .APK's to /system/app. Other alternative is to use the premium version of Titanium Backup and use the option to "integrate update into ROM."

Beedee2 said:
Hi,
on Gingerbread/CM7, is there a way to put more apps to the /system partition? I am always low on space for apps, even though i have moved almost all my apps to sd using the A2SD function. Currently, only market and rommanager are on /system, i would like to move some more gapps to /system if possiblr.
PS. DT apps2sd is no option for me since it keeps on crashing my nexus one.
Thanks!
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i just finally switched to yesterday's CM7 nightly, and with moving all my apps to the SD card with just the standard (but improved via gingerbread) a2sd method, i now have 130MB free space with 81 apps installed. i wonder if the new release puts some things on system partition automatically that i dont know about.

RogerPodacter said:
i just finally switched to yesterday's CM7 nightly, and with moving all my apps to the SD card with just the standard (but improved via gingerbread) a2sd method, i now have 130MB free space with 81 apps installed. i wonder if the new release puts some things on system partition automatically that i dont know about.
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Thanks, I think the 130MB is your free space on the sd-card? Isn't 130MB about the total space available for apps?

Rod3 said:
Use Root Explorer from the market and move the .APK's to /system/app. Other alternative is to use the premium version of Titanium Backup and use the option to "integrate update into ROM."
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Thanks, Root explorer does the trick! Isn't Titanium's "integrate update into ROM" only available for apps that are already in the system dir?

Beedee2 said:
Thanks, Root explorer does the trick! Isn't Titanium's "integrate update into ROM" only available for apps that are already in the system dir?
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Sorry, yes. But this a handy feature because even though you may have a app stored within \system\app, if you install a market update, the update will go to \data\app. You would then need to manually move the update to \system\app and replace the old .apk file. If you don't, then the app is stored in 2 places and is an inefficient use of memory.

Beedee2 said:
Thanks, I think the 130MB is your free space on the sd-card? Isn't 130MB about the total space available for apps?
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No that is my internal free space. I just moved all apps to the card with the standard froyo method.

Rod3 said:
Use Root Explorer from the market and move the .APK's to /system/app. Other alternative is to use the premium version of Titanium Backup and use the option to "integrate update into ROM."
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So I can just manually move apps with root explorer to free up space? I'll give it a shot.

Sorry I have 110 free, not 130. I just checked.

Dumb question, once I move the app It no longer opens cause it has moved. How exactly do I handle this? I tried the market, vending, for example.
Never mind, change permissions then reboot solved it. BTW strangely before you reboot the free space actually goes in the opposite direction showing less free space after the move, till a reboot.

Glad it worked for you Roger. Personally, I have never had to change the permissions, but just needed to make sure I renamed the update exactly the same as was in system, reboot and enjoy.

Seems to be working well. I'm still confused how I have so much free space. It says 114mb free right now with 81 apps installed. Granted they are just regular sized apps, nothing huge.

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[Q] Problem with paid apps with Apps2SD

Hello!
I have used Apps2SD Script included with G.O.T Recovery to partition and set up Apps2SD on my Milestone. Upon reboot everything works fine except that I can't launch two paid apps, namely: Got To Do and MountUSB. They were installed from Market but in place of the icon and name I get default icon (Droid's head on white background) and com.slamjibe.... and upon launching it I get FC. Can anyone help me?
contact the developper of these apps ask them support for apps2sd , many dev havent updated there apps for it ...
Hmm, I'm having this problem as well with apps not installing correctly.
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Which Apps2SD option did you guys use from the G.O.T. menu? I am using the "Symlink Edition" and it is working fine so far.
dsixda said:
Which Apps2SD option did you guys use from the G.O.T. menu? I am using the "Symlink Edition" and it is working fine so far.
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hi dsixda, I used just the plain and simple App2SD install I couldn't find a clear explination of the differences between just app2sd and the symlink version, if you have the chance, of if you are willing to could you please try to install Horoscope and Tarot by horoscope.com I know bad example app but its one that I remember off the top of my head. (GF just wont get off my tip about this one....)
~PsyCl0ne
PsyCl0ne said:
hi dsixda, I used just the plain and simple App2SD install I couldn't find a clear explination of the differences between just app2sd and the symlink version, if you have the chance, of if you are willing to could you please try to install Horoscope and Tarot by horoscope.com I know bad example app but its one that I remember off the top of my head. (GF just wont get off my tip about this one....)
~PsyCl0ne
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Yeah that horoscope app runs fine for me! Basically the "symlink edition" of Apps2SD just changes the location of the /data/app and /data/app-private folders to the EXT2 partition on the SD card.
dsixda said:
Yeah that horoscope app runs fine for me! Basically the "symlink edition" of Apps2SD just changes the location of the /data/app and /data/app-private folders to the EXT2 partition on the SD card.
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Sh*t is there anyway I can go from app2sd to the symlink with out having to reset my phone?
~PsyCl0ne
PsyCl0ne said:
Sh*t is there anyway I can go from app2sd to the symlink with out having to reset my phone?
~PsyCl0ne
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Just do a Titanium Backup of all your current data, do a Nandroid backup, then reflash the ROM without apps2sd.
Then, restore with Titanium, make sure all your apps are on your device, and then finally apply the symlink edition of Apps2sd... It will move them all.
Kk so instead of doing a titanium back up, I did a full wipe, replashed, re nandroid'ed, re formatted my sd card, and installed the syslink or symlink app2sd and everything works perfectly now
Thanks you guys
~PsyCl0ne
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Hi, I had also root my phone and did a nandroid backup with GOT open recovery, and i install app2sd hack on the symlink edition, how do i know that it had been sucessfully installed on my sd?
botakbotak said:
Hi, I had also root my phone and did a nandroid backup with GOT open recovery, and i install app2sd hack on the symlink edition, how do i know that it had been sucessfully installed on my sd?
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Check the available memory in the Settings menu, it should be higher now. Or just use adb, go into /data and do an "ls -l". The app folder should point to another folder. Also, in Root Explorer the app folder should now show the size remaining proportional to your ext2 partition.
I have actually modified an existing script so that now even the /data/dalvik-cache is moved to sd. I have freed up over 30MB more now. I can attach it later.
Apps2SD script
Here's a script that takes your apps to the SD card, and also links the /data/dalvik-cache there. With a newly flashed Milestone you should see at least 190MB free.
Just unzip this under /sdcard/OpenRecovey/scripts. Launch it from OpenRecovery, using the menu option Miscellaneous-->Run script-->install_apps2sh.sh..
NOTE: Make sure your /system/bin/mot_boot_mode is either the stock one or the one that GOT's OpenRecovery added. Otherwise the script will not work.
My script is based on another APPS2SD script, but I changed it so that it doesn't overwrite the modified mot_boot_mode file that GOT's OpenRecovery had added when you do overclocking, memhack, etc. (if it's not there then it will add it).
dsixda said:
Here's a script that takes your apps to the SD card, and also links the /data/dalvik-cache there. With a newly flashed Milestone you should see at least 190MB free.
Just unzip this under /sdcard/OpenRecovey/scripts. Launch it from OpenRecovery, using the menu option Miscellaneous-->Run script-->install_apps2sh.sh..
NOTE: Make sure your /system/bin/mot_boot_mode is either the stock one or the one that GOT's OpenRecovery added. Otherwise the script will not work.
My script is based on another APPS2SD script, but I changed it so that it doesn't overwrite the modified mot_boot_mode file that GOT's OpenRecovery had added when you do overclocking, memhack, etc. (if it's not there then it will add it).
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Hi , thanks for the response, just to clarify, after rooting with got's open recovery and flashed v2a roms, i splited my sd card thru the got's open recovery program and install the symlik edition of app2sd, indeed my memory from 16x became 194, but when i install some program, some space were taken up i think, it appear to be 189 now, i installed launcherpro and a few stuff, so i can assume that my app2sd is working and it is just because some program cant support to install to sd right? Sorry for my bad english.
botakbotak said:
Hi , thanks for the response, just to clarify, after rooting with got's open recovery and flashed v2a roms, i splited my sd card thru the got's open recovery program and install the symlik edition of app2sd, indeed my memory from 16x became 194, but when i install some program, some space were taken up i think, it appear to be 189 now, i installed launcherpro and a few stuff, so i can assume that my app2sd is working and it is just because some program cant support to install to sd right? Sorry for my bad english.
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It's probably because of the stuff stored under /data/data (application data, not the apps themselves). I have the same issue too. You can try to make a symlink to move them your sd card, but it actually slows down your apps when u run them, even with a high-speed / Class 6 SD card.
dsixda said:
It's probably because of the stuff stored under /data/data (application data, not the apps themselves). I have the same issue too. You can try to make a symlink to move them your sd card, but it actually slows down your apps when u run them, even with a high-speed / Class 6 SD card.
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So i should go and install again ? o.o , the moment i load the roms i split the sd and install already, not sure should i install again or not .
botakbotak said:
So i should go and install again ? o.o , the moment i load the roms i split the sd and install already, not sure should i install again or not .
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NO.... It's application DATA that's taking up space, not the apps themselves. Not much you can do about it. It's normal. The symlink method would have moved your apps to the SD card automatically.
dsixda said:
NO.... It's application DATA that's taking up space, not the apps themselves. Not much you can do about it. It's normal. The symlink method would have moved your apps to the SD card automatically.
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Ok thank you very much, solved my doubts, Thanks to all who helped.

[Q] Delete system apps and use free memory for other apps

I searched the forums for quite a while but couldn't find an answer to this question, so here I go:
Is it possible to use the space freed up by deleting system apps (like Motonav) for installing own Apps (e.g. memory hogs like Swype or the Flash Player)?
Not 100% sure but I just downloaded titanium backup from the market backed up those unwanted apps then uninstalled. That should free up space for what you want be careful what you uninstall though.
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Eiertschik said:
I searched the forums for quite a while but couldn't find an answer to this question, so here I go:
Is it possible to use the space freed up by deleting system apps (like Motonav) for installing own Apps (e.g. memory hogs like Swype or the Flash Player)?
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THe partition where those system apps are installed is not the same partition where apps you download are installed, so, if you free some space there, it won't affect free space at all.
But, you can move applications from /data/app to /system/app (if you mount /system/app as read/write), just move them and reboot the phone, but, before moving, please make sure that there is enough free space on /system by typing on adb shell or a terminal emulator:
df /system
If there is enough space, just go ahead, move the apk to /system and save some space in /data, BUT, and there is always a BUT... Any updates to that application will occupy space in /data again, so, everytime the APP is updated, you should delete the old APK in /system, move the new apk from /data to /system and reboot.
I'm pretty sure that Titanium Backup has this kind of functionality built in, not sure if it is pro only or if it works in the free version, but, since it did not work well the first time I've tried, I just do it manually.
P.s.: It is highly recommended that, before moving thing in or out the /system folder, you do a full NANDROID BACKUP, so you can just revert back to working condition if something go wrong (i.e.: if you delete something essential, perhaps you won't be able to load Titanium Backup and restore that back).
Sure, I added a lot of apps in system/app partition
For example I added GoSMS and GoLauncher, deleting mms and adwlauncher.
I made it because they are the most-used apps so it's better running them from internal memory rather than ext2 partition, plus I can boot the phone without SD.
The only problem, as HinotoriBR said, is that when you update an app you should move it from data/app to system/app, delete the old app version (newly installed will have a different name) and reboot.
yosif yackson said:
Not 100% sure but I just downloaded titanium backup from the market backed up those unwanted apps then uninstalled. That should free up space for what you want be careful what you uninstall though.
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You're right, that DOES free up space on /system partition, but it's not enough to use the free space for other apps
HinotoriBR said:
THe partition where those system apps are installed is not the same partition where apps you download are installed, so, if you free some space there, it won't affect free space at all.
But, you can move applications from /data/app to /system/app (if you mount /system/app as read/write), just move them and reboot the phone, but, before moving, please make sure that there is enough free space on /system by typing on adb shell or a terminal emulator:
df /system
If there is enough space, just go ahead, move the apk to /system and save some space in /data, BUT, and there is always a BUT... Any updates to that application will occupy space in /data again, so, everytime the APP is updated, you should delete the old APK in /system, move the new apk from /data to /system and reboot.
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I installed Swype and moved com.swype.android.inputmethod-1.apk to /system/app using Root Explorer and it still worked without rebooting the phone.
Maybe because input methods are always active in the background so it didn't notice the moving?
I restarted anyway (because otherwise it doesn't update the free memory information in Settings) and et voila: more than 10MB extra space.
Now Swype is still listed in the "All Apps" tab of app management but with a mere 2MB.
I guess that's user settings, dalvik cache and other stuff - so I better not move it...
One last question:
How much free space should remain on /system partition?
Is it also used to cache stuff or can I fill it all the way to the top?
downloadman said:
Sure, I added a lot of apps in system/app partition
For example I added GoSMS and GoLauncher, deleting mms and adwlauncher.
I made it because they are the most-used apps so it's better running them from internal memory rather than ext2 partition, plus I can boot the phone without SD.
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Since I'm not using an ext2 partition on my SD card it should make no difference if an app is in /system or /data when it comes to performance, shouldn't it?
THANKS TO EVERYONE
Eiertschik said:
Since I'm not using an ext2 partition on my SD card it should make no difference if an app is in /system or /data when it comes to performance, shouldn't it?
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I suppose you're right. Or maybe SD speed is faster than internal memory, who knows... but surely reading internal memory uses less battery power than reading microsd.
An ext2 partition is really useful if you install a lot of apps.
As my SD card is only Class2 (was bundled with the phone) I doubt it would be faster than internal memory.
Up to now I was able to install all the apps I really needed without an ext2 partition - so I think the /system-trick will give me more space than I really need
But thanks anyway - I'll get back to it when I'm keen enough to use custom roms and ext partitions
Eiertschik said:
One last question:
How much free space should remain on /system partition?
Is it also used to cache stuff or can I fill it all the way to the top?
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Since partition is mounted as read only usually, it means that partition is not used to cache or store any app data. All data and cache of /system applications goes to /data (which, as you observed, still has some space being used by the moved application). So, you should be able to fill /system (or get close to fill it) and have no issues.
If you don't use any modded rom, you can use Androidiani Open Recovery and use some space that is left for OTA transfers to store cache data (there is a specific partition with 100+ MB of free space used just for that, to store a firmware upgrade received OTA), it is known as "Memhack" and free up more space. As far as I know, many mods as CM7 already have this "Memhack" built-in.
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Since partition is mounted as read only usually, it means that partition is not used to cache or store any app data.[...]
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Maybe that was too obvious for me to figure out
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If you don't use any modded rom, you can use Androidiani Open Recovery and use some space that is left for OTA transfers to store cache data (there is a specific partition with 100+ MB of free space used just for that, to store a firmware upgrade received OTA), it is known as "Memhack" and free up more space. As far as I know, many mods as CM7 already have this "Memhack" built-in.
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I already use AOR to root my 2.2.1 stock ROM.
This memhack sounds very interesting... might consider it because I don't really expect any further Milestone update from Motorola.
Sounds more reliable than an ext2 partition on SD card - since I don't really trust my card...
If I do this Memhack and for whatever reason Moto will release an update - will I still be able to do it using a PC?
Eiertschik said:
Maybe that was too obvious for me to figure out
I already use AOR to root my 2.2.1 stock ROM.
This memhack sounds very interesting... might consider it because I don't really expect any further Milestone update from Motorola.
Sounds more reliable than an ext2 partition on SD card - since I don't really trust my card...
If I do this Memhack and for whatever reason Moto will release an update - will I still be able to do it using a PC?
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The memhack will move the cache from the /data partition to that specific partition for OTA upgrades. So, as your cache grows larger, your /data (free internal memory) will not decrease. This saves internal memory space that would otherwise be used for cache (not sure if application data is moved there too).
As soon as you start hacking the stock rom, it is not recommended to try to update directly the phone, if Motorola ever releases a newer version, recommended steps:
- Titanium Backup all your Apps/Data
- Flash a stock SBF (2.0/2.1/2.2, doesn't matter) in your phone, wipe all data/cache
- Use Motorola Software Update to upgrade the software to the new revision
- Afterwards, as soon as update is done and phone boots, you can flash vulnerable recovery and then through Open Recovery or Androidiani Open Recovery hack the hell out of your phone again (ie.: root, memhack, overclock, etc)
- As soon as you get root, use Titanium Backup to restore your Apps/Data
Or, you could always wait for someone to release a Nandroid Backup of the new rom, as is usual in the Android Development section, and simply use that Nandroid Backup (alway Titanium Backup your apps/data b4), wipe everything after update, and then use Titanium Backup to restore your Apps/Data
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P.s.: It is highly recommended that, before moving thing in or out the /system folder, you do a full NANDROID BACKUP, so you can just revert back to working condition if something go wrong (i.e.: if you delete something essential, perhaps you won't be able to load Titanium Backup and restore that back).
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I wish I read that 5 minutes ago... lol !
skribzy said:
I wish I read that 5 minutes ago... lol !
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Being a Motorola phone, you can always find the SBF related to your phone and use RSDLite to flash it. Milestone, to enter boot mode and then use RSDLite to send a SBF ( http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone , if you are a Droid user, probably there is somewhere else to find it, if you are milestone user, try to use a version close to whatever you had), just power it down, hold dpad up, and with dpad up pressed you power the phone. You will see some writting about the boot loader, your phone is ready to be connected in our PC and you can flash it using RSD Lite.
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Being a Motorola phone, you can always find the SBF related to your phone and use RSDLite to flash it. Milestone, to enter boot mode and then use RSDLite to send a SBF ( http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone , if you are a Droid user, probably there is somewhere else to find it, if you are milestone user, try to use a version close to whatever you had), just power it down, hold dpad up, and with dpad up pressed you power the phone. You will see some writting about the boot loader, your phone is ready to be connected in our PC and you can flash it using RSD Lite.
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Yea, cheers, it was a school boy error! I was thinking to myself must do a nandroid before I start tinkering and totally forgot! All back to normal and backed up now
I was seeing if I could swap out the stock dialer with dialer one in system/apps... Milestone didnt seem to like it at all! I assume apps like dialer one are dependant on the existance of core apps. I did manage to get rid of the 3D gallery and replace it with quickpic.
Theres loads in system/apps that I simply dont need like 'LiveWallpapersPicker.apk' which I assume I can just get rid of - I will give it a go and see what comes crashing down!
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Rooted my phone, moved apps to sd card, dumped dalvik cache, but still full memory...

Hey every one,
Yesterday i rooted my phone using superoneclick (running android 2.2.1) because i was getting sick of the fact that my memory was running full.
After that i did this:
Deleted facebook to make space for link2sd (have no seccond partition)
Installed link2sd,
Moved apps to sd.
Installed facebook on sd,
Go with my root file manager into /data/dalvik-cache/ and deleted everything inside there (50 mb) but after rebooting my phone the memory starts filling itself again and my dalvik cache was full again.
What can i do to make my memory free? Im havin 12 mb free now, but thats not enoug....
And also, is it safe to move apps like calander to sd?
Thanks, domini99
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Oow... Damn...
Where does it have to be?
general section, open the new thread there
soon it will be closed
as you are saying you have root then download a2sd froyo root open the app select the data storage as external then you can move almost all apps to external memory but it will also not leave many storage for you I will recommend you to first upgrade to gingerbread then partition your sdcard and use link2sd
First a question: can i go furder from herr or do i have to close this topic? Thanks!
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...?!? you have deleted all dalvik-cache?!? First: the data of apps are in system/data/data then you not must touch the dalvik-cache, second: use install manager for move the apps on sdcard and not link2sd, install manager is better, third: you can move only the apps (apk) on sdcard but the data remain on internal memory then also if you install all in sdcard the internal memory it lowers, the only way for move all (apk+data) on sdcard is do a partition, without the partition you not can move also the data but only the apk, then for you now the only way for get more free memory is uninstall all useless apps.
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Ooh. Eeerm.... Yeaaah... Well, see. Im not the smartest here...
Oke, i looked into data/data and therr was a lot of junk in from apps i already uninstalled, almost 10 mb! I deleted that and deleted dalvik, than rebooted and now 154 mb free!!!
I installed install manager, but.. What do i need to do with it? Link 2 sd i used to set install location and moved some apps. That did a lot for me. I always wanted a game, but that was 50 mb, and that will never fitt on the internel memory, but it only could on internel, now its on sd, and working great
Thanks for reply, im already helped that far to know how to take care of my memory.
But its still fine if someone can give me some tips, im brand new to root and i understand only 10% of everything....
Thanks
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Titanium Backup FTW!!!
So, I used titanium backup to move some things from the internal memory to the sd card. It worked fine as now I have about 20-30 mb free on internal. and this is good.
Also, a 2 Gb sd card is ok, but a larger one would be perfect . I have a 2 Gb now and I'll need a larger one soon ).
Also I uninstalled all useless apps like: Facebook, Twitter etc ) All useless social apps, the park is much better also the school.
That's all I know. Hope it helps u somehow.
I have also internal memory so full (about 20mb free)
You can try ungaze script for Galaxy Mini
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You can try ungaze script for Galaxy Mini
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Thank you, but the problem is already solved. Im running costum rom now
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domini99 said:
Thank you, but the problem is already solved. Im running costum rom now
Sent from my sending thing...
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If you want keep using your stock rom you can use Doc_cheilvenerdi.org boot.img that can change our sams mount partition /data to sdext. :good:
Meeeh, stock rom sucks and is slow. I prefer cyanogenmod 7.2
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[Q] how can I make more free space in /system

Hi,
I'm with AOKP rom M6, my /system folder is full (I have only 12kb free).
Is there any way to make it bigger?
Thanks.
Anyone?
all you can do is to uninstall some apps that u dont use, like life wallpapers, and any other apps that u dont use, u can use titanium backup for this.
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Thanks!
evaworld said:
all you can do is to uninstall some apps that u dont use, like life wallpapers, and any other apps that u dont use, u can use titanium backup for this.
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This is certainly the safest way to do it. You can also use any root explorer (like, for example, rootexplorer) and start deleting things. Not any thing, mind you. Just apps, fonts or media files in their respective folders. And it's very risky if you don't know what you're deleting.
Also, you can move system apps to the sdcard by making them user apps (with Titanium or a similar tool). However, most system apps don't work correctly if you convert them to user apps, so be careful with this too.
What the people above me are saying: you can't just increase the space that will be available in /system from, let's say 250mb to 500mb. You will have to mess with your phone's partitioning, which can be done, but is fairly risky business. This goes for any repartitioning, not just on android, but also on Windows, Mac. An easier way would be to free up space by deleting anything neccesary in /system.
For instance, delete the .apk files from apps you don't ever use (and know what they're for! Don't ever delete anything of which you don't know what it is!) in /system/app.
And see what's in /system/media - that could save some space as well. Just don't touch /system/lib!
And finally, you could also get Titanium Backup Pro to convert system apps to user apps, this will free up some space as well. By doing all this, I recently managed to free up about 30mb on my /system.
You can move some apps to SD card. Go to system -> applications -> choose application -> move to SD card
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xuleca said:
You can move some apps to SD card. Go to system -> applications -> choose application -> move to SD card
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Dont think you can move system apps to sd card. he's talking about /system not /data

Storage space running out

For the past week, I have received an error message at my storage space is running out and some system functions may not work properly. I am also receiving repeated force close error messages, which I assume to be related to the storage space issue. The problem is, I have plenty of internal storage space and external storage space available. Below, I've attached screenshots of my current storage.
The error message first came up while using the AOSP 4.2 ROM compiled by pawitp. Before getting the message, I have been using this rom for a couple months with no problem. I reflashed the ROM several times to remedy the issue , but each time I would end up with force close issues after a day or two. Before flashing, I would perform a full wipe, wife cache/dalvik, and format system. Just to be sure, I have tried flashing 4.2 that was recently released by Collective, and the latest slim4.2. I am having these issues no matter what rom I am on.
Edit: cannot upload images from the xda app. Will upload as son as I'm at the computer.
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Suggestion;
Go get SD maid, by darken, on Google play store. it does much more than clean the SD.
Try the free version, then buy the pro if you want to support the dev.
laughingT said:
Suggestion;
Go get SD maid, by darken, on Google play store. it does much more than clean the SD.
Try the free version, then buy the pro if you want to support the dev.
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Unfortunately, I cannot download anything from the play store due to the storage issue...
Would uninstalling some apps allow you to install others. ? You can always reinstall them later.
Alternatively. Go into settings, apps, and start deleting app data. for example, gallery, which can take up much more space than it needs. Leave the app, jus clear the data. Maps, browser, etc.
Chances are that your data data partition is full of junk, near its 422mb limit. If you open terminal emulator, type su, then df, you will see which partition is causing the problem.
+1 for what laughingT said
Taking a look at the partitions is the best way to start on this as it is the most common cause, usually /data (/data/data) or /cache is full.
Due to the way android lumps the different partitions toegether in the system view, it might look like there is enough free space when in reality there are sub partitions that are full.
But:
"The insufficient storage" will also be (missleadingly) displayed if an app can not be installed because it's .odex file already exists (for whatever reason) from a previous install.
Thanks for input, Dark3n.
Correct me if I am wrong, but your SD Maid app can clean up stray odex, yes?
I have used SD Maid Pro to keep my phone 'clean'. I had 400 mb in datadata on cm10.0 at one point, and SD Maid helped me trim that down to 150 mb.
Dark3n said:
+1 for what laughingT said
Taking a look at the partitions is the best way to start on this as it is the most common cause, usually /data (/data/data) or /cache is full.
Due to the way android lumps the different partitions toegether in the system view, it might look like there is enough free space when in reality there are sub partitions that are full.
But:
"The insufficient storage" will also be (missleadingly) displayed if an app can not be installed because it's .odex file already exists (for whatever reason) from a previous install.
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Thank you to everyone for the help so far. I wiped and reflashed the ROM so that I could have enough time to get into Titanium Backup before the launcher FCed on me. I restored SD Maid and see that my datadata partition is full (420 of 422). Can I move the system apps to the SD card with SD Maid? I thought that I had this option at one time, but I do not seem to get an option to move my system apps. I tried to convert them to user apps using link2sd (was able to get this installed from a flashable zip that I created before having this issue), but I am unable to do so.
What is odd is that my data data is basically full with only the standard system apps installed on slim and/or AOCP. I didn't even flash gapps.
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Moving apps to SD, especially system apps, probably won't help you. Your data partition isn't full, right?
I'd use the app cleaner tab and system cleaner tabs in SD maid to selectively clear app and system data. Clean browsers, maps, galleries and photo apps, at least. this won't uninstall the apps which is good, but it should clear a lot of garbage out.
If that won't do for you, then go into manage apps under the settings menu and clear at the browser data and cache, the maps data and cache, and the gallery data and cache. I'll take a guess that that alone will free up 150 mb.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but your SD Maid app can clean up stray odex, yes?
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jsingle3 said:
Can I move the system apps to the SD card with SD Maid?
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Not yet, but both on the TODO list in that order. No time for coding SD Maid atm . Soon...
laughingT said:
Thanks for input, Dark3n.
Correct me if I am wrong, but your SD Maid app can clean up stray odex, yes?
I have used SD Maid Pro to keep my phone 'clean'. I had 400 mb in datadata on cm10.0 at one point, and SD Maid helped me trim that down to 150 mb.
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I'm trying everything I can but I can't seem to find out what is taking up all my data data storage space. I've cleaned the cache and data for every app and it is still showing me around 400. Like I said before, I've got nothing installed other than what came on the slim 4.2 ROM (plus es file explorer and SD maid).
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okay. try this
start terminal emulator and enter
su
du datadata > sdcard/du.txt
exit
exit
. . .
okay, now go open the text file named du.txt that is in your sdcard.
it should list every file in datadata along with the size of each one.
because the size is at the beginning of each line, you can also sort the info by file size, either on your phone with an app like quickoffice, or on your pc.
there is also a way to do that sorting in the shell in terminal emulator, or with a script, but I'm too rusty on linux commands to give you that long command line.
edit: du is going to show the file space used by each subdirectory. that should point you to the offending files and orphan directories.
Did not find any issues after running the datadata log. I did, however, notice several simlink errors after getting es file explorer installed. Flashed the zip referenced in the following link to see if it would fix my errors (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1541942). So far, so good. No storage notifications, I am able to install from play store, and can restore from T/B. I will report back in a day or two to confirm if this fixed my issue.
I'm not sure that fix script is useful for the jelly bean partition layout, which is different from ics , I think.
They are referencing CM9 and a 170mb datadata partition. As you know, we've got a 422mb datadata partition, and I beleive jb uses a different strategy to make use of the fast flash rom in captivate.
Sorry, wrong link. I meant to link the datafix app from the play store. By the way, still seems to be working well.
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Okay, I figured it out. I looked in my cwm log and noticed that I had a TON of bad blocks in my datadata partition. This effectively shrunk my partition down to about 50MB. No wonder I had storage warning issues as soon as I would flash any ROM (and why I needed datafix app to free up some space). Before using the phone as a paperweight, I decided I would reflash to stock kg3 to see if repartitioning and flashing back to cm 10.1 could fix it. After going back to stock and then getting back to 10.1, the bad datadata sectors appear to be fixed. I'll report back in a few days.
Any idea what caused the badblocks?
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Any idea what caused the badblocks?
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I'll hazard a guess..
if his card was actually using a vfat or non jounaling fs, like ext2 for datadata, then
nonjournaling file systems on SD cards under linux are known to become corrupted when power is lost or interrupted. killing apps through a task manager or power manager could do the same, if it didn't allow the write buffer to finish. also a weak sd card might misbehave, particularly if bus is overclocked as it can be in semaphore kernel.
if it isn't a journaling fs, then the blocks show up as either bad or used when they are actually empty and good. periodically running fsck might be a good strategy for him.
edit; fsck isn't included in android build or busybox, I guess. Dark3n, could you build the fsck module into your SD maid app?

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