For the past week, I have received an error message at my storage space is running out and some system functions may not work properly. I am also receiving repeated force close error messages, which I assume to be related to the storage space issue. The problem is, I have plenty of internal storage space and external storage space available. Below, I've attached screenshots of my current storage.
The error message first came up while using the AOSP 4.2 ROM compiled by pawitp. Before getting the message, I have been using this rom for a couple months with no problem. I reflashed the ROM several times to remedy the issue , but each time I would end up with force close issues after a day or two. Before flashing, I would perform a full wipe, wife cache/dalvik, and format system. Just to be sure, I have tried flashing 4.2 that was recently released by Collective, and the latest slim4.2. I am having these issues no matter what rom I am on.
Edit: cannot upload images from the xda app. Will upload as son as I'm at the computer.
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Suggestion;
Go get SD maid, by darken, on Google play store. it does much more than clean the SD.
Try the free version, then buy the pro if you want to support the dev.
laughingT said:
Suggestion;
Go get SD maid, by darken, on Google play store. it does much more than clean the SD.
Try the free version, then buy the pro if you want to support the dev.
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Unfortunately, I cannot download anything from the play store due to the storage issue...
Would uninstalling some apps allow you to install others. ? You can always reinstall them later.
Alternatively. Go into settings, apps, and start deleting app data. for example, gallery, which can take up much more space than it needs. Leave the app, jus clear the data. Maps, browser, etc.
Chances are that your data data partition is full of junk, near its 422mb limit. If you open terminal emulator, type su, then df, you will see which partition is causing the problem.
+1 for what laughingT said
Taking a look at the partitions is the best way to start on this as it is the most common cause, usually /data (/data/data) or /cache is full.
Due to the way android lumps the different partitions toegether in the system view, it might look like there is enough free space when in reality there are sub partitions that are full.
But:
"The insufficient storage" will also be (missleadingly) displayed if an app can not be installed because it's .odex file already exists (for whatever reason) from a previous install.
Thanks for input, Dark3n.
Correct me if I am wrong, but your SD Maid app can clean up stray odex, yes?
I have used SD Maid Pro to keep my phone 'clean'. I had 400 mb in datadata on cm10.0 at one point, and SD Maid helped me trim that down to 150 mb.
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+1 for what laughingT said
Taking a look at the partitions is the best way to start on this as it is the most common cause, usually /data (/data/data) or /cache is full.
Due to the way android lumps the different partitions toegether in the system view, it might look like there is enough free space when in reality there are sub partitions that are full.
But:
"The insufficient storage" will also be (missleadingly) displayed if an app can not be installed because it's .odex file already exists (for whatever reason) from a previous install.
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Thank you to everyone for the help so far. I wiped and reflashed the ROM so that I could have enough time to get into Titanium Backup before the launcher FCed on me. I restored SD Maid and see that my datadata partition is full (420 of 422). Can I move the system apps to the SD card with SD Maid? I thought that I had this option at one time, but I do not seem to get an option to move my system apps. I tried to convert them to user apps using link2sd (was able to get this installed from a flashable zip that I created before having this issue), but I am unable to do so.
What is odd is that my data data is basically full with only the standard system apps installed on slim and/or AOCP. I didn't even flash gapps.
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Moving apps to SD, especially system apps, probably won't help you. Your data partition isn't full, right?
I'd use the app cleaner tab and system cleaner tabs in SD maid to selectively clear app and system data. Clean browsers, maps, galleries and photo apps, at least. this won't uninstall the apps which is good, but it should clear a lot of garbage out.
If that won't do for you, then go into manage apps under the settings menu and clear at the browser data and cache, the maps data and cache, and the gallery data and cache. I'll take a guess that that alone will free up 150 mb.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but your SD Maid app can clean up stray odex, yes?
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jsingle3 said:
Can I move the system apps to the SD card with SD Maid?
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Not yet, but both on the TODO list in that order. No time for coding SD Maid atm . Soon...
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Thanks for input, Dark3n.
Correct me if I am wrong, but your SD Maid app can clean up stray odex, yes?
I have used SD Maid Pro to keep my phone 'clean'. I had 400 mb in datadata on cm10.0 at one point, and SD Maid helped me trim that down to 150 mb.
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I'm trying everything I can but I can't seem to find out what is taking up all my data data storage space. I've cleaned the cache and data for every app and it is still showing me around 400. Like I said before, I've got nothing installed other than what came on the slim 4.2 ROM (plus es file explorer and SD maid).
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okay. try this
start terminal emulator and enter
su
du datadata > sdcard/du.txt
exit
exit
. . .
okay, now go open the text file named du.txt that is in your sdcard.
it should list every file in datadata along with the size of each one.
because the size is at the beginning of each line, you can also sort the info by file size, either on your phone with an app like quickoffice, or on your pc.
there is also a way to do that sorting in the shell in terminal emulator, or with a script, but I'm too rusty on linux commands to give you that long command line.
edit: du is going to show the file space used by each subdirectory. that should point you to the offending files and orphan directories.
Did not find any issues after running the datadata log. I did, however, notice several simlink errors after getting es file explorer installed. Flashed the zip referenced in the following link to see if it would fix my errors (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1541942). So far, so good. No storage notifications, I am able to install from play store, and can restore from T/B. I will report back in a day or two to confirm if this fixed my issue.
I'm not sure that fix script is useful for the jelly bean partition layout, which is different from ics , I think.
They are referencing CM9 and a 170mb datadata partition. As you know, we've got a 422mb datadata partition, and I beleive jb uses a different strategy to make use of the fast flash rom in captivate.
Sorry, wrong link. I meant to link the datafix app from the play store. By the way, still seems to be working well.
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Okay, I figured it out. I looked in my cwm log and noticed that I had a TON of bad blocks in my datadata partition. This effectively shrunk my partition down to about 50MB. No wonder I had storage warning issues as soon as I would flash any ROM (and why I needed datafix app to free up some space). Before using the phone as a paperweight, I decided I would reflash to stock kg3 to see if repartitioning and flashing back to cm 10.1 could fix it. After going back to stock and then getting back to 10.1, the bad datadata sectors appear to be fixed. I'll report back in a few days.
Any idea what caused the badblocks?
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Any idea what caused the badblocks?
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I'll hazard a guess..
if his card was actually using a vfat or non jounaling fs, like ext2 for datadata, then
nonjournaling file systems on SD cards under linux are known to become corrupted when power is lost or interrupted. killing apps through a task manager or power manager could do the same, if it didn't allow the write buffer to finish. also a weak sd card might misbehave, particularly if bus is overclocked as it can be in semaphore kernel.
if it isn't a journaling fs, then the blocks show up as either bad or used when they are actually empty and good. periodically running fsck might be a good strategy for him.
edit; fsck isn't included in android build or busybox, I guess. Dark3n, could you build the fsck module into your SD maid app?
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Is anyone else having issues with Market on the ADP 1.51 (CRB43) builds?
When I attempted to download an update to an existing app (GV) it downloads but when it tried to install "Installation error Insufficient storage available"
I have apps2sd and I've removed the stock ringtones from the build giving me only 89% of used space in /system directory and I have about 600mb free on my ext2 partition. Insufficient storage my a$$!
Anyone else have issues with this "Insufficient storage" error?
Do you have the cache etc all running off the SD? Apps is only one step, where it installs the apps to the SD. However unless the cache and so is moved, its like having firefox installed on one drive, but storing your browsing stuff on your main drive still. So youll run out of room unless its all on the SD.
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Do you have the cache etc all running off the SD? Apps is only one step, where it installs the apps to the SD. However unless the cache and so is moved, its like having firefox installed on one drive, but storing your browsing stuff on your main drive still. So youll run out of room unless its all on the SD.
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Yeah. Cache is also on SD. Just to be certain, I cleared the cache. Same issue.
I'm assuming your using the app to put things on the sd. I used lucids script to do it to mine. I wonder if something did not get linked over. Tried using a file manager to see what's on the internal?
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I'm assuming your using the app to put things on the sd. I used lucids script to do it to mine. I wonder if something did not get linked over. Tried using a file manager to see what's on the internal?
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After clearing the cache and discovering that it didn't work (just for the heck of it I also cleared the cache directory on SD) I tried a wipe and everything downloads again. I fastboot flash my data.img and I'm back to the same issues. Not sure what the problem is but I'm considering a wipe. I already backed everything up by backup pro. I just loathing the fact that Market will loose all the apps that I had installed already (they will all say FREE instead of INSTALLED or UPDATE AVAILABLE). Is there a file for market that marks what has been downloaded/installed?
The tip Id recommend. Try Lucids script for moving the data and cache before doing anything. Since if your ready to wipe, cant hurt to try and see if it does it.
Next do the pre tip I did personally. I used atrackdog, Hit menu and do export, it saves to a .txt file. Open that file and you will know which apps YOU had on there vs everything in the my downloads.
I wish I could help more as far as cache and why its not working fully. Ive had my share of struggles and always lucked out.. which is why I hope the 1st option works for you.
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The tip Id recommend. Try Lucids script for moving the data and cache before doing anything. Since if your ready to wipe, cant hurt to try and see if it does it.
Next do the pre tip I did personally. I used atrackdog, Hit menu and do export, it saves to a .txt file. Open that file and you will know which apps YOU had on there vs everything in the my downloads.
I wish I could help more as far as cache and why its not working fully. Ive had my share of struggles and always lucked out.. which is why I hope the 1st option works for you.
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Here is the answer!! i have the same problem, i tried to get out the sd card, and it worked(app installs succcesfully)!!
THE PROBLEM IS: EXT2 PARTITION (android do that.. wrong) the ext partition was causing the problem in the installation
1. download minitool partition wizard(or use a working partition tool)!
2. in recovery(volume down and boot phone into recovery) a, go into usb mode(mount and storage/usb mode) (if you have old recovery, download the 4.0...... i cant remember but the newest what you can find)
you have seen 2 partition and its crap!
3. creat 1 partition FAT32 PRIMARY! and format the SD card! (with all storage) this is all you need on your droid!!!(and your music, pictures and apps too)
4. after that, take rom on the SD and install it.
AND APP INSTALLATIoN WORKS!
Not the same phone but for what it's worth this does not appear to be hardware specific. This problem for me was caused by the Google app sync. As soon as it got too many apps in the install queue, it breaks and thinks the drive is full. I was able to fix it by going into recovery and clearing the cache again on my LG P999.
Hi guys
I switched from my x10 to a nexus one last week, really wanted to try out Froyo, multitouch, and all the goodies that come with that.
I flashed a desire sense rom onto my nexus a couple of days ago. I didn't bother to check what the internal memory was on first boot, and perhaps I should have, but hopefully you can help anyway.
I used titanium backup to restore all of my apps. However, I got to a certain point, and my internal memory was full. So I had to cancel the process, and then start a new batch process in titanium backup to move all the apps to the sd card. This seemed fine, I started again to restore all the previously unrestored apps. Then, sooner than before, the same thing happened again. So I cancelled the process and moved all apps to the sd card. This went on, to the point where I'm at now, that I have so little internal memory I can't install any more apps! Even though I have supposedly shifted all my apps to the sd card. I have no idea what has happened this memory, where has it gone? How do I reclaim it? What is it that is taking it up, if all my apps are on my sd card instead? :-S
Thanks for the help as always guys, any tips are much appreciated.
Download DiskUsage from the market (you may have to uninstall something first).
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When you restore from titanium after flashing a rom just restore missing apps and data NOT all system data, just fyi
or just do basic apps you need
if you are going to run sense roms you should use amon_ra 2.0.0 to set up an ext3 partition. Some roms move the a2sd auto after you reboot right after flashing rom and some use Dark Tremor that they include in rom. Just need to be sure.
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Thanks for the tip about titanium, I'll remember that for the next time.
I ran DiskUsage, seems I have 96.3MB of system data... Is all of this essential, or is there any way for me to clear some of it? How did it all get there in the first place?
Thanks guys.
that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
According to disk usage, out of a total of 196.2MB internal memory,
79.8MB is used by apps (presumably those which must be stored locally)
96.3MB system data
and 20.2MB free space.
Does this help?
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that seems awful high for system mem free. sure it isn't internal free memory your seeing
not familiar with diskusage, if it shows all, good
i like quick system shows all mem info. maybe just duplicates diskusage, don't know
interested to know internal free memory
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ask the right questions, that is not a large amount of system memory if he is using the new sense 2.0 roms
, are you using the new desireHD rom / mytouch 4g, with sense 2.0, these roms are large, leaving very little space on the device, if it is one of these you will have setup an ext partition on your sdcard,
if you have flashed the desireHD rom plug your phone into pc
from cmd type
adb shell stop
adb shell
a2sd repair
hit ctrl+c to back out
adb shell start
this should move all apps from the /data/app partition into your sd-ext partition, which has much more free space
those don't sound right, doesn't it say "internal free memory" and 20.63mb free which is the internal is very low
I go back into TB and scroll down and delete apps from previous rom and then refresh. If you did select "restore all apps and system data" may be why internal is low. Don't think you cancahnge that till next rom flash. If it is working you can nandroid for now and think about Dark Tremor.
I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
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I used "eViL-NXSense-v.1.25", this was the ROM that I flashed.
How much free memory would you expect with this? And also, how come the memory went down as I installed apps, even though I moved them to the external memory?
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right, an AOSP rom will leave you with about 70-90 MB, not exactly sure with a sense rom but i doubt there would me much left to play with as the nexus was built without sense
the reason your space still goes down is because when you install the app, it is dexopted and the code is optimized, this optimized code is specific for your phone and is stored on your data partition, so even though your moving the actual app to your sdcard, the optimized code (Dalvik cache) is still stored on your phone, as the same for any app data.
my advice, and what i always use is Apps2Ext this is using a seperate partition on your memory card dedicated to installing apps, if you have one setup already great, if not
backup everything on your SDcard and partition it with your recovery software, when asked, choose 512MB ext, 0 swap, and the rest (FAT), copy all your stuff back to your SDcard, as well as this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
flash that through the recovery, it will move all your apps from the data/app folder to the new partition you made on your sdcard and link data/app to that folder so any new apps you install will automatically be installed there
I have MicroMod2.10 sense which is auto a2sd, you need an ext3 partition to get more free.
I have 93mb free internal. Normal can be 75 to 120
Your system free mem sounds high
FYI: If you partition with amon or rommgr/cwmod it wipes sd card.
I just messed up my sdcard and had to reformat it, not ext partition, left it alone, thru Mini Partition Tool Wizard and sd card reader. The reader is the only thing that confirms I have ext 3. DT always shows ext2 and rommgr seems to do only ext2. Amon can do ext3, 512mb, 0 Swap
You need to get in habit of backing sdcard regularly, not necessarily all everytime, if a particular folder like videos or pics hasn't changed. They are high mem only.
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I searched the forums for quite a while but couldn't find an answer to this question, so here I go:
Is it possible to use the space freed up by deleting system apps (like Motonav) for installing own Apps (e.g. memory hogs like Swype or the Flash Player)?
Not 100% sure but I just downloaded titanium backup from the market backed up those unwanted apps then uninstalled. That should free up space for what you want be careful what you uninstall though.
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Eiertschik said:
I searched the forums for quite a while but couldn't find an answer to this question, so here I go:
Is it possible to use the space freed up by deleting system apps (like Motonav) for installing own Apps (e.g. memory hogs like Swype or the Flash Player)?
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THe partition where those system apps are installed is not the same partition where apps you download are installed, so, if you free some space there, it won't affect free space at all.
But, you can move applications from /data/app to /system/app (if you mount /system/app as read/write), just move them and reboot the phone, but, before moving, please make sure that there is enough free space on /system by typing on adb shell or a terminal emulator:
df /system
If there is enough space, just go ahead, move the apk to /system and save some space in /data, BUT, and there is always a BUT... Any updates to that application will occupy space in /data again, so, everytime the APP is updated, you should delete the old APK in /system, move the new apk from /data to /system and reboot.
I'm pretty sure that Titanium Backup has this kind of functionality built in, not sure if it is pro only or if it works in the free version, but, since it did not work well the first time I've tried, I just do it manually.
P.s.: It is highly recommended that, before moving thing in or out the /system folder, you do a full NANDROID BACKUP, so you can just revert back to working condition if something go wrong (i.e.: if you delete something essential, perhaps you won't be able to load Titanium Backup and restore that back).
Sure, I added a lot of apps in system/app partition
For example I added GoSMS and GoLauncher, deleting mms and adwlauncher.
I made it because they are the most-used apps so it's better running them from internal memory rather than ext2 partition, plus I can boot the phone without SD.
The only problem, as HinotoriBR said, is that when you update an app you should move it from data/app to system/app, delete the old app version (newly installed will have a different name) and reboot.
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Not 100% sure but I just downloaded titanium backup from the market backed up those unwanted apps then uninstalled. That should free up space for what you want be careful what you uninstall though.
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You're right, that DOES free up space on /system partition, but it's not enough to use the free space for other apps
HinotoriBR said:
THe partition where those system apps are installed is not the same partition where apps you download are installed, so, if you free some space there, it won't affect free space at all.
But, you can move applications from /data/app to /system/app (if you mount /system/app as read/write), just move them and reboot the phone, but, before moving, please make sure that there is enough free space on /system by typing on adb shell or a terminal emulator:
df /system
If there is enough space, just go ahead, move the apk to /system and save some space in /data, BUT, and there is always a BUT... Any updates to that application will occupy space in /data again, so, everytime the APP is updated, you should delete the old APK in /system, move the new apk from /data to /system and reboot.
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I installed Swype and moved com.swype.android.inputmethod-1.apk to /system/app using Root Explorer and it still worked without rebooting the phone.
Maybe because input methods are always active in the background so it didn't notice the moving?
I restarted anyway (because otherwise it doesn't update the free memory information in Settings) and et voila: more than 10MB extra space.
Now Swype is still listed in the "All Apps" tab of app management but with a mere 2MB.
I guess that's user settings, dalvik cache and other stuff - so I better not move it...
One last question:
How much free space should remain on /system partition?
Is it also used to cache stuff or can I fill it all the way to the top?
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Sure, I added a lot of apps in system/app partition
For example I added GoSMS and GoLauncher, deleting mms and adwlauncher.
I made it because they are the most-used apps so it's better running them from internal memory rather than ext2 partition, plus I can boot the phone without SD.
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Since I'm not using an ext2 partition on my SD card it should make no difference if an app is in /system or /data when it comes to performance, shouldn't it?
THANKS TO EVERYONE
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Since I'm not using an ext2 partition on my SD card it should make no difference if an app is in /system or /data when it comes to performance, shouldn't it?
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I suppose you're right. Or maybe SD speed is faster than internal memory, who knows... but surely reading internal memory uses less battery power than reading microsd.
An ext2 partition is really useful if you install a lot of apps.
As my SD card is only Class2 (was bundled with the phone) I doubt it would be faster than internal memory.
Up to now I was able to install all the apps I really needed without an ext2 partition - so I think the /system-trick will give me more space than I really need
But thanks anyway - I'll get back to it when I'm keen enough to use custom roms and ext partitions
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One last question:
How much free space should remain on /system partition?
Is it also used to cache stuff or can I fill it all the way to the top?
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Since partition is mounted as read only usually, it means that partition is not used to cache or store any app data. All data and cache of /system applications goes to /data (which, as you observed, still has some space being used by the moved application). So, you should be able to fill /system (or get close to fill it) and have no issues.
If you don't use any modded rom, you can use Androidiani Open Recovery and use some space that is left for OTA transfers to store cache data (there is a specific partition with 100+ MB of free space used just for that, to store a firmware upgrade received OTA), it is known as "Memhack" and free up more space. As far as I know, many mods as CM7 already have this "Memhack" built-in.
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Maybe that was too obvious for me to figure out
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If you don't use any modded rom, you can use Androidiani Open Recovery and use some space that is left for OTA transfers to store cache data (there is a specific partition with 100+ MB of free space used just for that, to store a firmware upgrade received OTA), it is known as "Memhack" and free up more space. As far as I know, many mods as CM7 already have this "Memhack" built-in.
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I already use AOR to root my 2.2.1 stock ROM.
This memhack sounds very interesting... might consider it because I don't really expect any further Milestone update from Motorola.
Sounds more reliable than an ext2 partition on SD card - since I don't really trust my card...
If I do this Memhack and for whatever reason Moto will release an update - will I still be able to do it using a PC?
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Maybe that was too obvious for me to figure out
I already use AOR to root my 2.2.1 stock ROM.
This memhack sounds very interesting... might consider it because I don't really expect any further Milestone update from Motorola.
Sounds more reliable than an ext2 partition on SD card - since I don't really trust my card...
If I do this Memhack and for whatever reason Moto will release an update - will I still be able to do it using a PC?
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The memhack will move the cache from the /data partition to that specific partition for OTA upgrades. So, as your cache grows larger, your /data (free internal memory) will not decrease. This saves internal memory space that would otherwise be used for cache (not sure if application data is moved there too).
As soon as you start hacking the stock rom, it is not recommended to try to update directly the phone, if Motorola ever releases a newer version, recommended steps:
- Titanium Backup all your Apps/Data
- Flash a stock SBF (2.0/2.1/2.2, doesn't matter) in your phone, wipe all data/cache
- Use Motorola Software Update to upgrade the software to the new revision
- Afterwards, as soon as update is done and phone boots, you can flash vulnerable recovery and then through Open Recovery or Androidiani Open Recovery hack the hell out of your phone again (ie.: root, memhack, overclock, etc)
- As soon as you get root, use Titanium Backup to restore your Apps/Data
Or, you could always wait for someone to release a Nandroid Backup of the new rom, as is usual in the Android Development section, and simply use that Nandroid Backup (alway Titanium Backup your apps/data b4), wipe everything after update, and then use Titanium Backup to restore your Apps/Data
HinotoriBR said:
P.s.: It is highly recommended that, before moving thing in or out the /system folder, you do a full NANDROID BACKUP, so you can just revert back to working condition if something go wrong (i.e.: if you delete something essential, perhaps you won't be able to load Titanium Backup and restore that back).
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I wish I read that 5 minutes ago... lol !
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I wish I read that 5 minutes ago... lol !
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Being a Motorola phone, you can always find the SBF related to your phone and use RSDLite to flash it. Milestone, to enter boot mode and then use RSDLite to send a SBF ( http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone , if you are a Droid user, probably there is somewhere else to find it, if you are milestone user, try to use a version close to whatever you had), just power it down, hold dpad up, and with dpad up pressed you power the phone. You will see some writting about the boot loader, your phone is ready to be connected in our PC and you can flash it using RSD Lite.
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Being a Motorola phone, you can always find the SBF related to your phone and use RSDLite to flash it. Milestone, to enter boot mode and then use RSDLite to send a SBF ( http://and-developers.com/sbf:milestone , if you are a Droid user, probably there is somewhere else to find it, if you are milestone user, try to use a version close to whatever you had), just power it down, hold dpad up, and with dpad up pressed you power the phone. You will see some writting about the boot loader, your phone is ready to be connected in our PC and you can flash it using RSD Lite.
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Yea, cheers, it was a school boy error! I was thinking to myself must do a nandroid before I start tinkering and totally forgot! All back to normal and backed up now
I was seeing if I could swap out the stock dialer with dialer one in system/apps... Milestone didnt seem to like it at all! I assume apps like dialer one are dependant on the existance of core apps. I did manage to get rid of the 3D gallery and replace it with quickpic.
Theres loads in system/apps that I simply dont need like 'LiveWallpapersPicker.apk' which I assume I can just get rid of - I will give it a go and see what comes crashing down!
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Ok, long story short, I have 113MB of 'system data' in my /datadata folder (66% full), and I want it gone.
But I can't get rid of it... I've tried a full clean install, I've tried manually formatting /datadata from CWM, and I've also tried formatting boot, cache, data, datadata, and system from CWM followed by a fresh install (Kang 12/17).
My wife has the same phone and ROM and she only has 26% full in /datadata. I can't - for the life of me - figure out how to completely clean /datadata.
One thing I noticed in terminal emulator is that the data in /data and /datadata is about equal to what is listed in /system. However, formatting /system did not clear it out.
Please help as this is driving me insane!
Isn't datadata based on your apps? Like dalvik? I think ur wife just has less apps.
mbc663 said:
Isn't datadata based on your apps? Like dalvik? I think ur wife just has less apps.
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I thought so to, but even with no apps (nothing but what comes with the ROM) I have 3x what she has... and she has what comes with the ROM plus all her other apps.
If it does have to do exclusively with the apps, I'm more than willing to do everything step by step to figure out which app(s) cause my issue, but in order to do that I need to be able to clear the folder of everything except what true system data is necessary and start from square 1.
/datadata is apps settings and data. A little more info might help...
b-eock said:
/datadata is apps settings and data. A little more info might help...
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What kind of info do you need, and I'll try and supply it. I'm trying to do a clean install so that all of those app settings and data are starting from scratch. Factory resets didn't do it, formatting the folders through CWM didn't do it...
I must be missing something... but I can't figure out what it is.
Some basic background:
Most recently on the 12/17 Kang (CM7.2 RC0) with the glitch v13 (2.6.35.13) kernel and Gapps 08/28
For the just completed testing I only flashed Gapps (08/28) and the 12/17 Kang so I could see if anything I did worked on clearing /datadata.
Other than that, the only modification I've done to my phone is the modem is KG3 i9000.
Have u tried Titanium Backup Pro app ??
4-2ndtwin said:
Have u tried Titanium Backup Pro app ??
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I haven't... I have the free version currently. Would the pro version do all of this stuff?
The free version should do for deleting data and removing apps.
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I'll go out out on a limb here but try backing up your sd card and formatting it?
mbc663 said:
I'll go out out on a limb here but try backing up your sd card and formatting it?
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I had thought of that too... once formatted and I reinstall the ROM and stuff, is it easy enough to just copy those folders back on the phone? That was the one thing I was worried about... and thus I hadn't tried yet.
Formatting always makes me nervous
Are you encountering any issues with it being that full? Or is this just to satisfy your ocd?
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I had thought of that too... once formatted and I reinstall the ROM and stuff, is it easy enough to just copy those folders back on the phone? That was the one thing I was worried about... and thus I hadn't tried yet.
Formatting always makes me nervous
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As simple as dragging and dropping files. Also nice to start fresh every once in a while to clear out junk from old apps.
I'm getting ready to format my SDcard and start all over... but if I format my SD card, I'll no longer have my ROM zips there to flash. I put the ROMs on my external SD card (emmc), but in CWM I can't mount emmc to make sure they are there to flash when I format my SDCard...
How do I get my ROM flashed again once I format my SD card?
EDIT:
Doing more research it appears that I should be able to format my SD card w/o losing my ROM as long as I leave my boot and system folders alone.
So, if I format /data, /datadata, and /sdcard I should be able to reboot and see if it worked
studacris said:
Are you encountering any issues with it being that full? Or is this just to satisfy your ocd?
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I am encountering issues with it being that full. I have like 70 apps with approx 38MB of data taken up... combined with the large amount of 'system data' in the /datadata partition I'm running into the issues when that folder gets to 90% capacity.
It's at the point that I can't install new apps that save any data at all or I will have to constantly shuffle which apps can save their data. Doing research I found that the 172MB cap shouldn't be an issue unless you are hording apps... I have a small number of apps with a small amount of data, so things should be better
Thanks for all the suggestions...
But so far nothing has worked.
I formatted the SD card along with data and datadata and rebooted the phone.
My /datadata folder was still listed at 66% full. So formatting nearly everything still couldn't clear this folder.
I'm still boggled why the other captivate started with 8MB system data and I start with 113MB, both on a clean install...
Perhaps my only hope is to clear stuff out again and flash ICS and hope that something is different enough that this 'problem' goes away...
An additional thought
Would I be able to delete the /datadata folder through Root Explorer, reboot into recovery and reflash the ROM?
I would assume the ROM will repartition the phone correctly. System data can't exist in a folder that doesn't exist - right?
I keep getting a persistant low storage notification. It persists even after switching roms as soon as I restore all of my apps. In settings it shows that I have about 1 gb free. However, many of my apps are on the sd card and the phone will not allow me to move them to primary storage because it says I don't have any free storage on the device.
What's going on here? How can I fix it?
Are you on CM7 or 9? Both of these put their application data in a smaller partition than the Samsung ROMs for speed reasons, but you can run out of space much more easily. Download a cache cleaner from the market, clear out all of your application caches, and see if that resolves the issue.
Also, move movable apps to sd card
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Are you on CM7 or 9? Both of these put their application data in a smaller partition than the Samsung ROMs for speed reasons, but you can run out of space much more easily. Download a cache cleaner from the market, clear out all of your application caches, and see if that resolves the issue.
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I was on cm7. Now I'm on a asop ICS rom.
k2snowboards88 said:
I was on cm7. Now I'm on a asop ICS rom.
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I believe AOSP ROMs are the same. Clear caches and move apps to SD.
apbthe3 said:
Are you on CM7 or 9? Both of these put their application data in a smaller partition than the Samsung ROMs for speed reasons, but you can run out of space much more easily. Download a cache cleaner from the market, clear out all of your application caches, and see if that resolves the issue.
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I'm getting the same message just recently and I too have over 1 gb phone storage left... so is this number wrong? I understand what u mean about apps on smaller partition but does that mean it actually smaller then the 2gb space? I'm on cm9. Sgsics 4.0.3 rc 4.2
So even though I have over 1.2 gb of phone storage left and over 8 gb of USB storage left I should still be installing on ext SD? And or cache cleaner? Is there way to find out how much app storage space I get on these roms? I'm only using 743mb thus far. Does this mean I will run out soon even though it says I have lots of room left?
Thanks
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As I understand it, it's not that it is a wrong number so much as an incomplete one. The apps are installed there, but their cache, settings, databases, etc actually live in data/data for performance reasons. This is the partition that is actually full. You can check the available space with a terminal emulator by typing "df datadata" (without the quotes, of course."
This is why clearing app caches usually helps.
apbthe3 said:
As I understand it, it's not that it is a wrong number so much as an incomplete one. The apps are installed there, but their cache, settings, databases, etc actually live in data/data for performance reasons. This is the partition that is actually full. You can check the available space with a terminal emulator by typing "df datadata" (without the quotes, of course."
This is why clearing app caches usually helps.
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Hi i have the same problem. I have 1,5 GB free for the internal storage but running "df datadata" command reveal partition seized 172 MB used 161 MB free 10MB ...
How can i fix this? I also have 32GB SD card completely FREE
I moved some apps to SD card but that does not free up space. Is there a way to resize this partition?