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I have ordered 2 high capacity batteries for my new HTC HD7 and DHD.
They are simply higher capacity batteries but not made by HTC.
The Desire HD battery is 1600mah (standard is 1230mah) and
The HD7 battery is 1500mah (standard is 1230mah)
My DHD is aweful with its standard battery - I won't even touch it once in the day and after 6 hours it will only have 1/4 left of battery!
The HD7 is much better and seems to last the whole day with call and text use but it is always on its last legs towards the end of the day - I imagine that these batteries will offer at least another 2 hours of good use a day to these phones.
My question really lies in the safety of these batteries... they are not HTC batteries - they are made by some oem somewhere in china I would guess and I don't know if they are likely to leak and damage my phone or not with extensive use. Does anyone have any actual experience with such batteries on their phones?
I did actually buy 2 spare oem batteries for my Nexus One from eBay and have never had problems with them however I have never used them for a sustained period so I don't know for sure...
i am also interested in this. ive seen a few 1500mah batteries on ebay. but my concern is if they are really 1500mah. they could just throw a sticker on there that says so.
as for safety, as long as the batteries output is equal to that of the stock hd7 battery i dont see why there would be a problem
you'll have to let us know how they work when you get em. i might end up just getting one here pretty soon though
It's not recomended and it is risky.Those batteries can really damage your phone and in some extreme cases you can even lose your warranty.You can find this hot topic in various forums, I read a Blackberry user buying one and after 3 months working presumly better the battery started to literally mealt, ouch ! (could have been a bigger ouch btw lol). I'd wait for an extended battery but I'm new to the world of HTC and don't know how they would react. Nokia in 2006 launched a program which replaced some particular batteries and delivered increased cappacity back.
OR buy a 2nd original battery. It's the safest decision and 2460 is still better than 1500
I bought a battery like this for my Treo 700wx. Worked great for awhile and than it started to die really fast. I put back the stock battery and it would even start to die on my pretty quickly. After that, I never would buy another extended battery. Seems hit or miss but just wouldn't trust it again.
^ Exactly. Forgot to add that their cycle life is a lot shorter. While with an genuine one you could go even for years, for an extended one you should expect 6-7 months at best.
Don't buy these batteries. They all look the same and I'm guessing originate from the same supplier. I bought one and it didn't fit quite right, and I worked out the label was misaligned, so I peeled back the label to line it up and low and behold the battery itself said 900mah despite being labelled 1500mah and "replacement for desire hd".
Blatantly trying to rip off users who are desperately trying to get a little better battery life, ironically they are actually getting a lower capacity battery! Beware! Also note, I've had my hd for a month now and the battery life has improved hugely, I always get a full day now! Although its in power save mode by bed time. I have though invested in an external 5000mah portable battery charger for use when I know I'll be away from mains or usb, a much safer option.
Cheers!
Ps this is by far the best smart phone I've owned, iPhone, blackberry storm, palm not a bit as good as this, wish it could deal with outlook meeting requests though, ie accept, reject, send...only fault, and I can live with it for how amazingly it does everything else.
yly3 said:
It's not recomended and it is risky.Those batteries can really damage your phone and in some extreme cases you can even lose your warranty.You can find this hot topic in various forums, I read a Blackberry user buying one and after 3 months working presumly better the battery started to literally mealt, ouch ! (could have been a bigger ouch btw lol). I'd wait for an extended battery but I'm new to the world of HTC and don't know how they would react. Nokia in 2006 launched a program which replaced some particular batteries and delivered increased cappacity back.
OR buy a 2nd original battery. It's the safest decision and 2460 is still better than 1500
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I've bought plenty of generic batteries and have yet to have my phone blow up in my pocket.
Hello everyone,
I bought some time ago an Andida 1900 mAh battery but I'm pretty sure the mAh declared is only nominal.
Now I need a good battery so that I can at least cover the day I spend at work (about 10 hours). I have to say that since my phone is the only access to the internet I can use in those situations I need to keep it always connected and this drains the battery, obviously. More over, I got Whatsapp (it should have push notifications, iirc), TweetDeck (updating every 6 hours, so it should be approximated to 0 energy draining), one GMail in push and one K9Mail in push as well.
With the Andida, I almost didn't use my phone and from 8:00 AM it's not at 75%. Pretty bad, in my opinion
So I wanted to ask you which battery would fit better the spot (I'd prefer the stock back case, otherwise docks I bought for my phone would be useless )
I found some that could go, but I'd need some advices from who already tested them:
Mugen 1700 mAh
eCell 2430 mAh
eCell 1800 mAh
Droidax 1600 mAh
So far I know Mugen Power are the best batteries (and saw the price, they must be the best ), but I wanted to be sure I could to a full work day with a charge (price is a minor issue, better to buy a good one once than 3-4 "less good"...)
Thanks in advance for helping me
Tiwiz
Problem is that "nobody knows". You'll always find always mixed reviews based on psychological changes or usage never being the same!
Unless someone tests the batteries with exact measuring instruments this topic will result useless
I know it is quite hard to give me a feedback (I couldn't say myself how much improvement brings the Andida battery) but I knew Mugen are good, just wanted to know if someone already tested it or not and if it's worth to buy it
Tiwiz
Why not get a charger/battery combo from ebay? Charge one while at work and swap when needed, then charge the other... Or get yourself a desktop stand with charger, I got the original LG desktop stand and it's pretty good actually (as far as desktop chargers go ofcourse!).
I have good Results with "POLARCELL". Used this Batteries in the last Phones as replacement of the Original one if they's gone bad.
(Polarcell 1600mAh)
I think that the oly solution is to have two batteries and use an external charger for the second battery.
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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this looks interesting..one thing good about it , is that is the same size as the original dell battery.
I think its a fake capacity, the largest capacity that fits as standard size offered by a decent battery manufacturer, Mugen Power is 1800mah, and if you read the threads here, there is a 2400mah extended battery that has to use a custom battery cover because the battery is twice the depth of the standard battery.
So, i think you will find its not really a 2430mah battery, but a 1800mah battery at best.
if it seems too good to be true...
The best bet is to get one of those external battery packs with 3000-6000mah and a spare cable.
Also be agressive in your control of screen brightness and data use
If you read the feedbacks of that seller on eBay. There are heaps of negative feedbacks from buyers calling him a CON.
I bought off amazon since it had to be shipped to India... think there was only 1 seller in Amazon and he seems genuine.
There's a point with batteries where to make them any more powerful you must make them bigger. If fitting 2430ma into an 1800ma package was possible Mugen would have done it, so yes the rating is a lie.
REF: Gold Battery 2430mAh on eBay...
Total fake and ripoff!! ...so dont be wasting your money...
Here, read "all about it" from my experience in another parallel forae - "conclusion" after testing, on post #21: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305779
Parasitic said:
Has anyone tried this GOLD 2430MAH BUSINESS BATTERY FOR DELL STREAK MINI 5 battery here? (Just check it out on ebay, i can't link it because i'm a new user)
Wondering if its worth getting it or if I should just get a cheaper pack with a charger and 3x 1800mAh batteries? Mainly looking for an extra battery to take with me on long car trips so I can use the phone more like a tablet, but I wouldn't hate having a longer lasting battery for daily use either and then using the stock battery as my extra.
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Sorry. Thought you asked for the regular 2400mah.
hi, i bought this battery 2 mounth ago and my phone authonomy is double now. so dont coment if you dodnt try!
Do dell sell them?
Probably a con, but what the heck… I just purchased it. If it’s not 'as stated', I’ll report the bugger.
could keep us posted about this, i looked at the seller's feedback and seems it is fake but wondering if that is true.
The Americans have a saying "You can't put a quart in a pint pot" and that applies to battery power as well. Don't waste your money.
Irritatingly, battery capacity is only shown on the battery itself and not in the device’s battery info. So, is it really 2430mah? Don’t know. But there IS a difference. The 1530mah stock battery ran out of juice alarmingly quickly – like falling off a cliff - when at 30-40%, yet ‘Business Battery’ allows heavy use (downloads, browsing, video… etc) right down to single digits. So now I can use Streak much more (I’d say several hours more of constant use) when battery level is below 50% without worrying if it’s going to suddenly die on me. No gain between 100-50%, though.
I was prepared to slag this off, but from my experience it’s genuinely longer-lasting, especially at low battery levels. How long the battery itself will last only time will tell.
I’m not prepared to test it against Mugen’s 1800mah and spend near 30 quid (plus £18 p&p) in the process.
I've read elsewhere that the cheap Chinese batteries often don't report the available power in as many steps as a 'proper' one does, so they appear to fall slower.
I don't know how old your Dell battery is but it might not be as good as it used to be when new.
Yep, I had to replace the Dell battery (after about 10 months use) because over the past week it became completely unstable – dropping to 70% after 30min use, suddenly back up to 95%, and plummeting from then on. But the stock battery right from the start was always weakest when two-thirds empty, and it drained juice even on standby. Last night it was 100% or ‘fully charged’ for over 3 hours (mostly on standby and some light doc editing)… that had never happened before.
The thing is actually stamped ‘made in Japan’… aren’t Japanese products supposed to be expensive? Looks suspect, but whatever. If it becomes unstable after a month or two then sure, I’ll invest in a nice new Mugen or Dell replacement. But as of now I’m fairly content with a £13 Ecell batt.
Got one of these last week, & have put it through a few recharge cycles etc, unfortunately, it's no better than the stock battery
Oh well, it was worth a try..
As with all cheap batteries it has a short life - no more than 2 or 3 months before it starts to rapidly drain. As a temporary and inexpensive solution it's fine, but don’t expect long-lasting quality.
hey guyz
i bought this battery from ebay with 2600 mah
is it fake???
and if it isn't how could i calibrate it (am using android from nand)
sorry for my bad english
Well chances of it being 2600mAh are unlikely, if lucky it maybe 1700mAh.
Also kernal of your ROM need to be capable of handling over capacity batteries, for that refer to your ROM thread.
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Well chances of it being 2600mAh are unlikely, if lucky it maybe 1700mAh.
Also kernal of your ROM need to be capable of handling over capacity batteries, for that refer to your ROM thread.
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ahaaa. ic
thanx buddy for ur quick responding
i should buy 2300 original......
I have the extended battery just like this. It claims to be 2300mah and after a few cycles my battery widget says its estimated to be 2300mah (with 30% margin of error).
All extended sized batteries I've tested have shown to be over 2000+ mah and have given me more than double standby time.
If the battery is standard sized and claims over 1600mah then suspect BS.
Most of the cheaper oversized batteries tested by members on XDA came out at 1700mAh.
Peeling the sticker will lead to the truth.
Is a thread on this with a selection of oversized batteries & the true capacities.
Well I have owned 5 extended batterys in my time.
2 for HD2
2 for WildfireS
1 for Dash
All of them costed below £10.
All of them had seen my phone pass 30hrs.
My typical standby with normal batteries is around 11hrs.
My WildfireS extended bat topic.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296297
Going from OP supplied picture of of black/silver label style found on eBay & amazon most are tested well below claimed mAh
I have tested many myself & delt with resources in China that make them.
From 11hrs to past 30hrs is 3X over standard, that would equate to 3000mAh plus, no chance of 3000mAh cell & cover for £10.
You get what you pay for & when it's Chinese products & eBay/Amazon getting what you pay for is a gamble with poor odds.
so how could i calibrate it??????????
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Going from OP supplied picture of of black/silver label style found on eBay & amazon most are tested well below claimed mAhFrom 11hrs to past 30hrs is 3X over standard, that would equate to 3000mAh plus, no chance of 3000mAh cell & cover for £10.
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You have to account for night time which is about 8 hours of no activity meaning little drain.
Thats fake around 1700Mah i guess
Like title says.. I've been trying to find a extended battery which has higher capacity yet the size of the original battery but no luck
Does anyone know if there is one and where to fine one
Thanks
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are you sure that's even possible ? unless the battery was made of some other kind of materials, I have tyrouble seeing how you could store more power in the same battery size.
If you don't want a bigger phone, Your best bet would probably be to buy a second standard battery but it's a hassle to swap the battery when it's empty
If the battery is the same size it could in theory have more juice but it would be negligible. Seriously though, I picked up a charging cradle with battery charging slot and 2 spare batteries for $20. I also have a car charger and 3 chargers in my house. Unless you get a battery that is about double the size, you won't see a big difference and even then many batteries don't live up to their specs. Chargers and spare batteries are cheap. We're not dealing with smartphones of a decade ago where everything was proprietary and would cost at least $30 a pop.
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I remember reading something about this... I think it might have even been on this forum but it was something along the lines of "Don't you think, if it were possible to fit more juice into the same size battery, that samsung wouldn't do that with their OEM batteries?"
Samsung, and I'm sure many other major device manufacturers don't just buy a battery off ebay and throw it in their phones. they spend time and money researching better battery technologies to get the best power/life they can.
It's my second day with an Andida 1850mAh battery, no big changes yet compared to my 8 month old 1500mAh OEM battery, i'll post back after a few complete drain and charge cycles.
Surnom said:
It's my second day with an Andida 1850mAh battery, no big changes yet compared to my 8 month old 1500mAh OEM battery, i'll post back after a few complete drain and charge cycles.
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Be careful buying those batteries. More often than not they just repackage 1500 batteries and Mark up the price :/
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After 3 complete charge cycle its a little bit better than OEM but no big improvement. I'll see in a few more days.
I finally get about 15% better battery life. For the 20$ it cost me, I'm happy.
Surnom said:
I finally get about 15% better battery life. For the 20$ it cost me, I'm happy.
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How long have you had the battery? I'm looking for a new one as well but not if I am going to get scammed. Thanks!
Not Nexus related, but I have a vibrant that I got the Galaxy S 2 Epic 4G Touch battery for recently. Battery life went from about 6 hours to dead (month old 1500 mAh replacement battery bought at a phone hut) to 34 hours to dead (new samsung 1800mAh battery.) Nothing else changed.
My point is this:
1. If the above statements about samsung packing in as much as possible are true, why didn't the vibrant have a 1800mAh battery from the start? (hint, it is always about money.)
2. Take a crap 1500 mAh battery, slap a 1800 mAh sticker on it. People that buy these batteries will see an improvement because most generally they are replacing a worn out battery with a new one. Of course you will see an improvement, your worn out stock battery has only (arbitrary number) 600 mAh worth of usefulness left. The replacement is new and is not worn yet. (All arbitrary numbers follow) So, you will still see an improvement if you take a rated 1500mAh battery, that is labeled 1800mAh, but is in actuality only 1000mAh.
So asking if there is another, bigger, better battery for the Nexus made by Samsung, is a very valid question. So:
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are you sure that's even possible ? unless the battery was made of some other kind of materials, I have tyrouble seeing how you could store more power in the same battery size.
If you don't want a bigger phone, Your best bet would probably be to buy a second standard battery but it's a hassle to swap the battery when it's empty
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Yes it is possible. Search the Vibrant, and Fascinate/Mezmerize forum for examples.
Its about 6-7 days old, bought it on EBAY from this place:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/ladyblue1974/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686
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My point is this:
1. If the above statements about samsung packing in as much as possible are true, why didn't the vibrant have a 1800mAh battery from the start?
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Because it is a device from 2 years ago (2010) and the S2 is from q3 2011. Maybe two years allowed them to cram more juice into the battery.
Maybe it wasn't viable then, to stick such a large battery, considering the power consumption of the vibrant compared to the S2. Maybe if they did the price would have gone up.
I highly doubt that Samsung would just stick different stickers on the same capacity batteries. maybe you had a defective or a non-original one. There are people that measure this kind of stuff. How much damage would Samsung's image suffer if someone found out that they sell a 1000 mAh battery with different labels and price tags?
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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Maybe it wasn't viable then, to stick such a large battery, considering the power consumption of the vibrant compared to the S2. Maybe if they did the price would have gone up.
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Yes, as you so eloquently rephrased, "it's always about money." I noticed you left that part out of your quote of me.
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Flukzr said:
I highly doubt that Samsung would just stick different stickers on the same capacity batteries. maybe you had a defective or a non-original one. There are people that measure this kind of stuff. How much damage would Samsung's image suffer if someone found out that they sell a 1000 mAh battery with different labels and price tags?
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"Take a crap 1500 mAh battery" In this case "crap"="non oem"
I figured that would be obvious with my prior "phone hut" comment. I guess not.
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I am a big fan of the OEM batteries. I have not tested a non-oem battery that will perform anywhere close to the stated specifications so far.
If you guys find some good battery reviews, tests, etc. please post up.
Keep in mind that comparing a brand new "Craptastic Brand™" battery to your old worn out OEM battery is kind of pointless for getting a feel of the comparative quality/capacity of a battery.
klorin said:
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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Dude that looks good for $20! Post more details! I might be getting that
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klorin said:
I got a gold 2430 mah battery from ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2430MAH-HIG...093799?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2c5edcdce7
i don't know about it holding 2430mah, but it's far better than my 1 year old stock battery. i can post some battery usage stats later.
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is that battery same size like the original battery?
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yes tjackbjorn, same size
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yes tjackbjorn, same size
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okey, does it work properly? Think I maybe buy one, it wasn't too expensive!
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yes, it works properly. I had used my original battery for 12 months when I switched over to this one. The improvement was very noticeable.
I just charged my phone to 99%, I will report back in 24 hours with battery information and battery history since unplugged.
Sounds great!