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Droid4? LTE...

I'm going to be pissed if this comes out soon. I just got my D3 a few months ago
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/motorola-droid-4-exposed-to-our-wandering-eyes-comes-with-lte-i/

If this is true my D3 will hit ebay and I'll buy a nexus. This is just bad business, asinine.
I don't see how they can do this to consumers and think it's okay. I signed an additional 2 years onto my 1 year for this phone, just to be ****ed in the ass 3 months later. I will not buy anything but nexus in the future. One phone a year, like it's supposed to be.

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/27/exclusive-first-pictures-of-the-droid4-by-motorola/
Can see VZ bloatware on one of the pics -- would assume this is fairly close. Moto/VZ appear to be really jerking around customers these days - I am sure Bionic customers are upset that the Droid RAZR came out so quickly (although the gap between Bionic and RAZR is much smaller), and now us Droid 3'ers have this Droid 4 coming out. I am more interested in how much RAM this thing has - LTE still sucks down too much battery life for my taste, and non-removable battery is non-ideal - I like the the slim Motorola extended batteries - the 1900 mah one for Droid 3 adds essentially no thickness and lasts a lot longer than stock 1500.

Rlin5741 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/27/exclusive-first-pictures-of-the-droid4-by-motorola/
Can see VZ bloatware on one of the pics -- would assume this is fairly close. Moto/VZ appear to be really jerking around customers these days - I am sure Bionic customers are upset that the Droid RAZR came out so quickly (although the gap between Bionic and RAZR is much smaller), and now us Droid 3'ers have this Droid 4 coming out. I am more interested in how much RAM this thing has - LTE still sucks down too much battery life for my taste, and non-removable battery is non-ideal - I like the the slim Motorola extended batteries - the 1900 mah one for Droid 3 adds essentially no thickness and lasts a lot longer than stock 1500.
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Non removable battery is an instant do not want from me also, but I'm just pissed about this ****. I will never buy another motorola phone, I'm done. Give me Nexus or give me death.

I paid full retail for this phone right when it came out, I'm pretty pissed. If that comes out within the next few months (from the looks of it, it will) it'll be goodbye moto and hello nexus for me.
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Yeah ill be pretty frustrated @ moto too.... problem is I can't live without a keyboard and for some reason moto is the only company willing to put out higher end keyboard phones

Well, the Nexus looks great (as long as you are ok with something that big - I am not), and I do love the idea of a pure Google experience, but nobody has actually used one; we have no idea how good or bad it will be. And, this is a Samsung phone, and is coming out even closer to the launch of the Samsung Charge than any the presumed D4 is coming to the D3. This is the reality - you reach a point to get an upgrade, you get the upgrade, and you stop worrying whether something slightly better is coming out in a few months - because it is.
I'm ok with a thinner device with non-removable battery - I have chargers everywhere, including in my car, and there are plenty of great portable charging devices that you can get for phones like that. After tons of issue with the Bionic over two weeks dropping data (3G, in areas where I know I have a solid 3G signal), I'm happy to have the D3 for the next 19.5 months, and give plenty of time to Moto and VZW to get LTE truly ready for prime time - because it's not quite there now. The D3 is a great phone and I'll be fine with it; not a single data drop since I've had it, and battery life is about the same as the Bionic (when it was running CDMA only).
I do think that this angle-cornered design of the Razr and this prototype is a bit on the unattractive side, though, compared with the Bionic/D3.

I don't mind that they are putting out another version of the Droid soon. It's a losing battle to have the latest and greatest phone. What bothers me is what will happen to OS updates. Will phones get abandoned quicker?
Also did anyone else notice non-removable battery, looks like I wouldn't buy it. I pay an and a leg for a phone along with a plan and both Verizon and Motorola act like they own your phone. Do they not realize why people buy Android phones? I can upgrade/swap batteries, I can run whatever programs I want, I can add a memory card, etc.

for people like sims and whitty who have been doing a lot of work on the d3 and are being ostracized, i firmly believe this is an idiotic move on moto's side. I'm probably gonna go the nexus route if the d4 drops as soon as everyone is speculating it is. This is some major bs.

At least I have the Transformer Prime to look forward to....
But seriously. Ugh. Waco has no 4G of any kind and won't for years to come so this doesn't affect me too much, but still. This will take away a huge amount of potential users and will piss off all the D3 buyers, especially the ones like me who bought it on full retail.

I hope the D4 will have no global radio, so I will not be tempted. ;-)

Most people won't have 4G for at least another year. By then, that phone will be obsolete, I wouldn't sweat the small stuff.
*If you're not on Gingerbread, you should be shot*

Really, who cares about 4G when the 3G part is not on par with a 3 years old Sonyericsson phone ?

Good God some of you are getting worked up over a phone. It is not a big deal just let it go.
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MrObvious said:
Good God some of you are getting worked up over a phone. It is not a big deal just let it go.
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It is a big deal because if someone wants a qwerty are they going to buy the 3 or the 4? We'll be left behind with a smaller community, as great as it is. It's just frustrating and I've had it with moto's bull****.
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rweb said:
I hope the D4 will have no global radio, so I will not be tempted. ;-)
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Interesting point, if it does have a GSM radio, this will be the first Global capable phone with LTE. How wold that even work, 2 SIM cards?

Non-replaceable battery will keep it off my list too. I'm in the NYC Metro Area and I know a few people with LTE phones, Bionic, Charge and TB. All have the same complaint, the battery life is horrible and they have constant connection issues. I'm waiting until next year summer-fall when the 2nd or 3rd generation LTE chips come out.

i was pissed then i saw no removable battery the i was like i dont care lol. i choose unlimited 3g over limited 4g any day i got grandfatherd over so its all good

Motorola can't be serious, Droid 3 is only about 4 month old.
And I don't really like the curved design

jellman said:
i was pissed then i saw no removable battery the i was like i dont care lol. i choose unlimited 3g over limited 4g any day i got grandfatherd over so its all good
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If you're on unlimited data now (using 3G), when you switch to a 4G phone you stay on unlimited data (now using 4G).

should i buy an droid 3 instead of an atrix?

i was thinking to buy an atrix , but found droid 3 (xt 860) . should i buy it instead of atrix? the price is just a little higher

please, can someone help? i have to decide in about one hour =/

...well, there's a lot more development with the Atrix over the XT860, that's for sure.
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i would stick it out for the galaxy nexus at this point, but thats just my personal opinion. i love my droid 3 (xt862) but yes the dev for xt860 is just showing due to jsut receiving an sbf.

I never had the atrix but I can tell you that the stock droid 3 is hella lagy for a dual core. Especially if you have animations on; actions take a couple of seconds to respond. Hope this helps
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thanks for all the feedback, i was loving the design but now i have my doubts if i should get an droid 3.
what is an sbf that you mentioned?

sbf is a basic recovery method back to OG stock. I will say taht the D3 is a hell of a machine. My benchmark scores are very high, even compared to other new devices. Bionic and Razr are very similar to the D3. I wouldnt say that it drags stock. Ive had an atrix, and it didnt score as high on my list as id hope, but you can unlock the bootloader on atrix and do some things you cant with the d3. tough decision, but i already told you what i'd do. what country are you going to use this device in?

im from brazil. here the price diference is huge, from atrix to droid 3, its about 80 dolars, from atrix to sgs2, its aboult 300 dolars.
i had a vibrant, that is gone for good. i spent easily more than 500 dolars fixing it lol (3 broken screens and some others stuffs)
So i dont want to spend too mutch on a new phone... from what i have seen, droid 3 seens to be the more atractive, except by the 512 mb ram. in fact i wanted a motorola phone, but it seens that the choices are limited and problematic. atrix is on market for a long time, and on my country it even doesnt have the oficial 2.3 yet. xt860 have gb, a better camera, the cool keyboard, but the 512 mb ram concerns me. what im looknig too, is for company suport, i want to buy an device that i know at least will have an oficial ICS.
After all, i really dont want an samsung anymore, passed a lot of time with it, my vibrant doesnt even have an oficial gb rom. LG is all about complain, so i think my choices are limited to motorola.
Can you give me a hand?

i understand what you mean. the 512 in the d3 is sufficient. its running faster than my xoom or handful of other devices. i wish i could tell you for sure what to buy. like i said, personally, i will be moving to the galaxy nexus very soon (but im not a GSM user either
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Yes. I previously owned the Atrix, there were so much problem with it after a few month that I nearly threw it against a wall from all the frustration caused.
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so, from this choices, should i move to a d3?

I haven't tried the other phones but I have the Verizon D3 and I put a custom ROM on here and it is nice. The keyboard is very nice to use and it is very possible to make it run as well as the newer Motorola phones such as the RAZR with a mild overclock.
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I will say I absolutely love my D3 and am sad it doesn't get more love. Mine has been snappy since even before installing custom roms... plus it's keyboard is exceptional (the main selling point for me, I can't have a phone without a KB!)
I'm quite pleased with my D3.

Verizon is sending me a Droid Bionic as a replacement, how's the phone?

I'v finally gotten Verizon to replace my revolution with another phone and they're sending me a Bionic. How is this phone and I noticed it's got android 4.0 listed on their page at Verizon and was curious if that means I can upgrade when I get it or if it means upgradable at a later time.
How is this phone by the way? Will I really notice a good improvement with the dual core 1ghz processor and 512mb ram over the revolution I had even though it was freezing, etc?

I'm a former revolution owner. This is a much better phone, with more development for it. It doesn't currently have an official ice cream sandwich but there are several unofficial versions to choose from.
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And you will definitely notice the difference between the revolution and the bionic.
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So the listing for ICS on their site means it's scheduled to get ICS fairly soon then right?
Honestly though, I'm just glad to be off the Revolution =/. God I had so many problems with that phone, hopefully this one will be better off and a bit faster

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So the listing for ICS on their site means it's scheduled to get ICS fairly soon then right?
Honestly though, I'm just glad to be off the Revolution =/. God I had so many problems with that phone, hopefully this one will be better off and a bit faster
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For me, it ran faster with nonrooted stock than the revolution did on it's best day running mtmichaels roms. He did a good job with that phone, but you can only dress up a pile of crap so much.
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Good to know. Maybe Ill get to root it for more than a day lol.
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I have had both and the LG was good but you will deffinetly notice a difference. The Bionic is a hole new ballgame.
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Which verison do you think they're sending me? The 512mb RAM one or the 1gb RAM one or are they all 1gb RAM?

Bionic is good but The RazR is better
After 6 Motorola Bionics Verizon finally put me into the RazR!!!! And lovin it, The Bionic is a great handset don't get me wrong, the Razr suits my use better...

Never hear of 512 bionic
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mrkdly said:
After 6 Motorola Bionics Verizon finally put me into the RazR!!!! And lovin it, The Bionic is a great handset don't get me wrong, the Razr suits my use better...
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I heard it was way better than what I had so that's why I agreed to get it when they offered it to me. You're saying it's not good, god I hope that's not true because this revolution I can't even go from unlock to pulling down the notification pane unless 40+ seconds have passed =/.

The Bionic and Razr are both great phones. I have tried a Razr and I personally like Bionic better. They both have their perks. Its all about personal preference.

Needless to say they're both probably miles ahead of the revolution lol.
Now, there's not a way to dual boot is there? Rather not replace teh stock right as I get it but want to try out that ICS rom.

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Needless to say they're both probably miles ahead of the revolution lol.
Now, there's not a way to dual boot is there? Rather not replace teh stock right as I get it but want to try out that ICS rom.
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You can use safestrap to get back to stock.

sevron said:
Needless to say they're both probably miles ahead of the revolution lol.
Now, there's not a way to dual boot is there? Rather not replace teh stock right as I get it but want to try out that ICS rom.
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Safestrap basically dualboots two roms. You can have stock on your safe side and load up an ics rom on the non safe side. It will save it to the /preinstall partition and in about as long as it takes to reboot you can switch back and forth.

Love my bioNic
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Just switch over too to the Bionic, coming from a Samsung, loving how fast this phone is, and trying to wrap my head around all the dev going on for it. Good luck with your new phone.
PS I didn't last a day without rooting mine, wanted all the bloat gone!

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trying to wrap my head around all the dev going on for it
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All what dev?

a 512 bionic would have been the D3 w/o 4g, i kept that phone for 28 days too long.... lol

Well just got my phone and the battery, wont be here til tomorrow =/. There's no way to use it without the battery is it? Will it even work even if it's plugged into the charger?

To upgrade or not?

So i have had my Bionic for about 2 months now and im looking to get a new phone already. Love the Bionic to death, just bored of it, and was wondering what phones compare to the Bionic for specs and root capabilities and BL unlock. I know Verizon is pretty tight when it comes to phones that have bL that are unlockable. So what would you all recommend as an upgrade?
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XperianceIT said:
So i have had my Bionic for about 2 months now and im looking to get a new phone already. Love the Bionic to death, just bored of it, and was wondering what phones compare to the Bionic for specs and root capabilities and BL unlock. I know Verizon is pretty tight when it comes to phones that have bL that are unlockable. So what would you all recommend as an upgrade?
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If I didn't lose my unlimited plan I'd get the Galaxy S3, that being said, how can you be bored with the Bionic? It's not a clown:laugh:, just a phone.

fozzir said:
It's not a clown:laugh:, just a phone.
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LMFAO! Mine didn't come with the red nose and after 6 months stopped making animal shaped balloons!
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I've had mine since December, and am planning to have it for 2 years (longer if I don't break it). What's to get bored of? Does a 6 month newer phone get you a different internet?
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Well if you're going from 3G to 4G i'd say it's not any different but faster XD. With the new ICS coming out your Bionic will be different. Not sure how you get bored with a phone after 2 months. I've had mine sometime after launch and with the new ICS Leak it's like a whole new phone. I am not sure what you're looking for especially if you're looking at a phone with near specs. If after 2 month you're bored of it obviously the phone wasn't meant for you. ICS brought more life out of the phone for me. As stated above I intend on keeping this phone for years especially with VZW's so called shared plans. Almost all VZWs phones have a locked bootloader. Hopefully Hashcode gets us the ability to load custom kernels then that's when the fun begins.

I find the bionic to be as good as a nexus with the leaked ics. Then again I prefer stability and sticking to a rom for several months at a time unless there's major bugs
So personally id keep the bionic as there really aren't any huge upgrades out there.
Unless you love a amoled screen but I really like the display on the bionic as I can make out things in sunlight
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Keep it!
There aren't really any phones out with more horsepower than the Bionic - with dual core and a gig of ram it can run any Android flavor just fine.
I'm curious - what is it that "bores" you with the Bionic? What feature would you be looking for?
Not meaning this to be snarky - but seems to me if you're "bored" with your phone you have waay too much time on your hands. Start developing with it if you have free time - us regular users will love you for the work!

should I buy the D4

Everyone here owns one I assume.
Should I buy a droid 4?
And what are the pros and cons?
Online video reviews are way to biased

It's all up to you. If you MUST have a physical QWERTY keyboard, then it's probably one of the best choices, but here's my own list of pros and cons:
Pros:
-Decent dual core processor, can be overclocked up to 1.4 GHz using myfishbear's scripts
-One of the best hardware keyboards you can find on a phone
-Build quality is good, feels sturdy
-Call quality is clear, haven't had any dropped calls
-Screen is pretty bright when you need it to be
-Loudspeaker is... loud.
-4G speeds are supposed to be good, but I haven't tried
-8MP camera with 1080p video
-Docks available (I use a Motorola Atrix 4G dock that I bought for a cheap price, modified it a bit and works fine)
-Global use possible due with GSM
Cons:
-Screen's Pentile - nowhere near as clear as a non-pentile screen, e.g. HTC One X, it's not HD, and black levels aren't low enough at high screen brightness
-Camera's photos may be slightly washed out, definitely doesn't beat an iPhone 4S (as much as I hate to admit it)
-Limited ROM activity, like most Motorola phones (but there are good ones available)
-Accessories limited, as with all hardware keyboard phones (few choices in cases, etc.)
-Interface lags behind slightly at times, but very little
-Internals are outdated as of 2013, since quad-cores are the rage now
-Battery life won't last with heavy use
At present, the Droid 4 is close to the best you can get with a hardware keyboard, but don't expect the screen to astound you like the newer models' would. If you want a hardware keyboard and can wait, I'd suggest waiting for a successor, maybe a Droid 5.

Droid 5? Somehow I doubt that will ever come out. :-/

nicholaslimck said:
It's all up to you. If you MUST have a physical QWERTY keyboard, then it's probably one of the best choices, but here's my own list of pros and cons:
Pros:
-Decent dual core processor, can be overclocked up to 1.4 GHz using myfishbear's scripts
-One of the best hardware keyboards you can find on a phone
-Build quality is good, feels sturdy
-Call quality is clear, haven't had any dropped calls
-Screen is pretty bright when you need it to be
-Loudspeaker is... loud.
-4G speeds are supposed to be good, but I haven't tried
-8MP camera with 1080p video
-Docks available (I use a Motorola Atrix 4G dock that I bought for a cheap price, modified it a bit and works fine)
-Global use possible due with GSM
Cons:
-Screen's Pentile - nowhere near as clear as a non-pentile screen, e.g. HTC One X, it's not HD, and black levels aren't low enough at high screen brightness
-Camera's photos may be slightly washed out, definitely doesn't beat an iPhone 4S (as much as I hate to admit it)
-Limited ROM activity, like most Motorola phones (but there are good ones available)
-Accessories limited, as with all hardware keyboard phones (few choices in cases, etc.)
-Interface lags behind slightly at times, but very little
-Internals are outdated as of 2013, since quad-cores are the rage now
-Battery life won't last with heavy use
At present, the Droid 4 is close to the best you can get with a hardware keyboard, but don't expect the screen to astound you like the newer models' would. If you want a hardware keyboard and can wait, I'd suggest waiting for a successor, maybe a Droid 5.
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Ya right now I have the razr hd and I realized I really want a full keyboard.
My main concern is battery, I am a texter and thsts about all I do....will it last me a day?

harecurtis said:
Ya right now I have the razr hd and I realized I really want a full keyboard.
My main concern is battery, I am a texter and thsts about all I do....will it last me a day?
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If you're mainly going to text, I can't see why it shouldn't last a day - as long as the screen brightness is kept low, and the Wi-fi off. You should try one out if you can first, to see if the screen's not a bother for you.

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If you're mainly going to text, I can't see why it shouldn't last a day - as long as the screen brightness is kept low, and the Wi-fi off. You should try one out if you can first, to see if the screen's not a bother for you.
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Ya I met a guy on craigslist, and didnt like the build quality
to me it seemed like a bionic with a keyboard and like a brick
Ill just wait til the droid 5 (IF there is one)
but the D4 is a decent phone im sure

Droid 5? Feel like 30/70 it wont happen. How much did the guy want for the phone?

iMaterial said:
Droid 5? Feel like 30/70 it wont happen. How much did the guy want for the phone?
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We agreed on a trade;
My razr hd for his droid 4 plus $100
We met and I felt the droid 4 was too bulky and not and style at all, so i said no

I don't know about the 100$ with it... just my opinion.. good thing you didn't get it...
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I don't know about the 100$ with it... just my opinion.. good thing you didn't get it...
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I gave in, the same guy met with me today (he works at verizon)
he gave me $50 and a brand new droid 4
and I gotta say, im impressed
I just hope theres a droid 5, but from what i read it looks slim:/
but hey if there is a droid 5 someday and its anything like the droid 4 (just better) ill buy it
and i know this isnt the right place to ask but.......jellybean soon?

How much is the Razr HD? You can get the D4 on ebay for $140 - 190, any day of the week.

harecurtis said:
I gave in, the same guy met with me today (he works at verizon)
he gave me $50 and a brand new droid 4
and I gotta say, im impressed
I just hope theres a droid 5, but from what i read it looks slim:/
but hey if there is a droid 5 someday and its anything like the droid 4 (just better) ill buy it
and i know this isnt the right place to ask but.......jellybean soon?
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JB was announced, but unlikely before summer imo. You got shafted my friend. People who are having problems, ie broken droid 4s are being given droid razr hds. I only use keyboards, thus only the droid line....put your phone in 3g and be happy. Batter life isn't bad per se, it is small however at 1785mah. Other than that, the phone is excellent. Screen is too bright for me, but that can be fixed.

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JB was announced, but unlikely before summer imo. You got shafted my friend. People who are having problems, ie broken droid 4s are being given droid razr hds. I only use keyboards, thus only the droid line....put your phone in 3g and be happy. Batter life isn't bad per se, it is small however at 1785mah. Other than that, the phone is excellent. Screen is too bright for me, but that can be fixed.
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I didnt do too bad though....I payed $199 at verizon...send a $50 rebate (so I only payed $149) and the guy gave me $50
so I essentially payed $100 for a sealed Droid 4
and im much happier as of right now
I do miss the HD screen and the big screen BUT i love the keyboard and to me its worth it

I miss read what you said... I thought you had to pay him the 100... I just sat mine on my stove... bye bye warranty... hello root...
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dbreezy187 said:
I miss read what you said... I thought you had to pay him the 100... I just sat mine on my stove... bye bye warranty... hello root...
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NO NO haha ide never do such a thing
i went to verizon and got my upgrade to razr HD (payed $199)
then verizon has a rebate for $50 (so take of $50 from that and now I only payed $150 for razr HD)
then met guy from CL, he gave me $50 plus a new droid 4
so in all actuality I only spent $100 to get this phone (with contract)
and I just bought the droid bionic lapdock (i read reviews and all says it works, even with ICS)
Im excited for that to come in the mail in a few days!

harecurtis said:
Everyone here owns one I assume.
Should I buy a droid 4?
And what are the pros and cons?
Online video reviews are way to biased
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well let me put it this way. i dont know if moto is gonna realease a D5, and im all for the fingerprint lock.. that is hot. but im going to buy a 2nd D4 and maybe even a 3rd to make sure i got a kickass qwerty to suit my needs. the d4 is great.. it's more like a computer with phone functionality than a phone.
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well let me put it this way. i dont know if moto is gonna realease a D5, and im all for the fingerprint lock.. that is hot. but im going to buy a 2nd D4 and maybe even a 3rd to make sure i got a kickass qwerty to suit my needs. the d4 is great.. it's more like a computer with phone functionality than a phone.
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Ya ive had it a few days and overall love it
I just bought a lapdock for it as well
The only issues I have with it are the lag it seems to have once in a while and the battery is pretty bad.
But besides that I have to say I love this phone
Now I think droid 5 is possible...moto recently released that keyboard phone for at&t or sprint photon q or atrix q or something like that
So we will find out soon enough

i would recommend trying to freeze unnecessary apps. and uninstalling the bloatware. sped mine right up to 400mb free memory. now i can run any number of my apps and the multitasking works great too on ics. even after a reboot. didnt want to run a custom rom so i sorta cleaned up the stock to suit my needs with the root script and link2sd.
JB is supposed to be released soon. within the next 8 weeks i think, so will be looking forward to that. and we'll know if a droid 5 is on the way by the end of february.
would love a 13/16mp camera, 2 or more gigs of ram droid 5 with the new flexible unbreakable screens. that would pwn.
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