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Bionic is great! But Droid Razr better?

I got the Bionic a couple weeks ago and it's been pretty awesome so far. But I saw the Razr pop up (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...l-core-processor-lte-support/?tag=epicStories) and kind of got bad a feeling that I shouldn't have been so hasty getting the Bionic.

I lost sleep over this too. Ultimately I resolved that I'd keep my Bionic. I can only imagine what the phones on the horizon with a 720p res display are going to do to the battery. Also, until we see more phones with the Ice Cream Sandwich O/S, I'm staying put.

Yeah, that RAZR is straight doinggggggggggggg

art0605 said:
I got the Bionic a couple weeks ago and it's been pretty awesome so far. But I saw the Razr pop up (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...l-core-processor-lte-support/?tag=epicStories) and kind of got bad a feeling that I shouldn't have been so hasty getting the Bionic.
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Honestly, this is how it's going to be for any piece of electronics you buy. "This is good but the next thing is better." If you keep waiting for the best thing ever you probably will never get anything. I say stick it out w the Bionic and when your upgrade comes up I'm sure the RAZR will look like Zach Morris' phone from Saved by the Bell (OK maybe not that bad).

I hear you
I get it no one wants to get a phone a 2 months later its replaced by a better one.however I love the bionic I have had one or two glitches unlike others I just got lucky. Its super fast I think the screen looks great and I watch Netflix. The pentile screen also uses a small amount o of battery compared to the other screens

id return my bionic if you guys updated from the charge or thunderbolt and wait for this droid razr, its going to be sick
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They won't post a release date until last minute. I think the Bionic was a placeholder at this point, they just wanted the name to make them money. This device will probably be leaps(maybe not bounds) better.

I don't think it will be a huge improvement.. Honestly as of right now I see no need to upgrade my phone I have yet to find anything that would slow down my phone. Never really experienced lag and flash runs smooth... After I installed DroidTh3ory's ROM my phone has had 100x better battery life as well...

It's announced today - coming early Nov to VZW
From PC World's review
There's a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, a 4.3-inch Super AMOLED qHD display (that's 960-pixel by 540-pixel resolution), an 8-megapixel rear-facing camera with 1080p video capture, an HD front-facing camera, and 32 GB of memory, split between internal storage and a microSD card. It's also a 4G LTE phone.
On the outside, the Droid Razr sports laser-cut woven Kevlar fiber and a Gorilla Glass display, highlighted by aluminum accents and wrapped around a stainless steel core. A splash guard is designed to protect the phone from flying liquids.
Motorola's stuffed a 1,780 mAh battery into the Droid Razr, and claims that will give a user 12.5 hours of 3G talk time or 8.9 hours of video playback
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our3rotts said:
It's announced today - coming early Nov to VZW
From PC World's review
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Yup, I've been tracking it all morning. So as of now, I'm on the fence about selling my Bionic for that bad boy. What to do, what to do?

Sure the material looks better in theory, same RAM 200 mhz more? Wonder how much extra performance you will see. Super Amoled with pentile subpixel display right? Not sure about this one team, I also feel kinda torn.

I currently have a partially working Thunderbolt and was going to switch out for a Bionic on Friday, until I saw the RAZR announcement this morning. I went over the specs and hardware/software wise there are no major differences whatsoever... The appeal of the RAZR seems to be it's design. It's "pretty" and built to take a beating. Looks like you could beat someone to death with it and it will still function 100%.
I am now debating if I should still get the Bionic or hold on to this Thunderbolt a bit longer and get the RAZR. What bothers me is they say they are taking pre-orders on the 27th but no one(not even Verizon) will say when the phone will actually be released.

In b4 we see an article "Nerd beat to death by RAZR smartphone... PZNERD"

2-3 months after the RAZR comes out, HTC or Samsung will release something you wish you would have waited for. I waited 10 months for the BIONIC, I'm going to enjoy this badboy for as long as I can. I've learned not to look forward to any more phones in the future. Unless you are willing to buy a new phone every 2-3 months, you will never have the best for long.
Maybe Verizon should consider leasing these phones as the technology is growing faster than most people's wallets can afford.
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How much you all want to bet the GSIII will be out by February? That'll be the phone of all phones.

While the Razr does look good it doesn't look like it will be leaps and abounds above the bionic, plus it has a locked bootloader also, so you would be in the same no custom kernal boat. With DroidTh3ory's Blurr3d and D3Blurr3ed ROMs i don't see the need to jump ship yet. Now maybe when the Nexus or another powerful phone with an unlocked bootloader comes out then i would consider it, but after investing the money in the Bionic i couldn't imagine paying full retail price, probably between $500-$600, for another phone so quickly.

There will ALWAYS be something better in the future! Get what you want and enjoy it. Don't beat yourself up for buying what you have because a new one is coming out soon. And those of you without a bionic, don't b*tch at people who have it by saying they should have waited.
The Bionic is a great piece of work.
Of course there will be better phones soon, but Android can always put out an update that makes the current devices even better.
~INB4 i smack somebody~

I think the Bionic will be a better phone because they will probably try and make the razor too sleek and have to sacrifice things such as battery life and hardware just my 2 cents

Non-removable battery yuck. Wonder if the prime will be the same?

zetsumeikuro said:
Non-removable battery yuck. Wonder if the prime will be the same?
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I like having an external battery so I can pop it out when needed...
And...internal battery means no Extended Battery...you're stuck with what ya got.

I dont know what ya *****in for

I got bionic on the launch date .. and for some reason i hear all these nerdlings qqing about oh this phone is old hardware and what not. I came from a Nexus One which in my opinion was the dopest android phone ever made besides the touch sensor. The screen on the bionic ****s all over my n1 and in every way its a upgrade. I looked at samsung LED screens before hand and I do enjoy them, but the bionics screen is great imo unless you got the magnifier glass out lmao
am i the only one whos really loving this phone and doesnt really care about the samsung and other phones coming out -__-
this a solid phone

avniii said:
I got bionic on the launch date .. and for some reason i hear all these nerdlings qqing about oh this phone is old hardware and what not. I came from a Nexus One which in my opinion was the dopest android phone ever made besides the touch sensor. The screen on the bionic ****s all over my n1 and in every way its a upgrade. I looked at samsung LED screens before hand and I do enjoy them, but the bionics screen is great imo unless you got the magnifier glass out lmao
am i the only one whos really loving this phone and doesnt really care about the samsung and other phones coming out -__-
this a solid phone
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Solid yes... What it was chalked up to be .. No. dont get Mr wrong, I love it... BUT your comparing it to a nexus 1. If you had came from a sensation, like myself, you'd understand the let downs a little better. Great phone definitely... Could it have been better, absolutely.
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I'm completely happy with Bionic. Samsung has pretty screens but much lower quality materials and design if you ask me. Samsung and Toshiba are both pretty crappy but they know if you put a beautiful screen on it people will overlook all the other areas costs were cut. people should pick a phone and try to live with their choice and enjoy the new toy. The Bionic is a hell of a phone. Quite being babies indecisive with too many choices.

I'm coming from an Original Droid and while I kind of hoped I'd be able to make it until the Prime released, that didn't happen....and I LLLOOOVVVEEE this phone! Now if only they can send an update to fix the network connectivity issues I'll be all set!

I love my bionic, no qestion's asked it works perfect. Have not had any problems with it, i will not give this phone up unless the pohone that replaces the bionic is 50x times better. Way better then my DX2. I perfer the cpu/gpu in the bionic then the nvidia cpu/gpu.
The 4g lte is great very fast. pretty sad my 4g lte is faster then my cable connection.

The only thing this phone is missing is CM7 or CM8 if it comes out.
I enjoy the BLUR but im to accustomed to my nexus one custom ROMs.
I honestly never use my 4g on my bionic only for specific times whe nits needed. I keep my data off completely throughout the day and oh man does the battery ****ing kill it hahah i love this phone so much the speaker/video camera/and all around feel of the phone is superb..truly superb. Samsung might have a nice screen and GPU or w.e but moto dominates with the actual phone feel.
This is comign from the guy who was like dreaming about getting a GS2 because thats my favorite phone but the bionic>>>gs2 in my opinion beside the led

avniii said:
bionic>>>gs2 in my opinion
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I would almost promise you that if you held them side by side, this wouldn't be your opinion any more. Now, I absolutely love my Bionic and it's the best phone I've used on Verizon(it's worth noting that I've owned nearly every Android smartphone to come to Verizon since the Droid 1) However, a coworker of mine imported a GSII some time ago and I've had ample opportunity to play with it. To me, it remains completely unrivaled by anything I've seen from another manufacturer to date. This is really just my 2 cents.
P.S.:When I say nearly every, I mean literally all but 3 =P I will continue this with the upcoming Rezound, as well. Nothing like having variety with my LTE.

I have tried out nearly every phone out there.
I had money just sitting here, so why not put it to good use.
When it coolness down to phones, I liked 2 the best.
GS2 and the Bionic
The GS2 screen was truley amaizing, but like sanding usually does, they increase there contrast. Pictures no longer feel... realalistic.
The GS2 was lighter. It in a way felt cheaper as well.
The main reason I chose the bionic was it's processor.
Prosesses utilize ram.
The OMAP4 is the only multiple-channel processor which makes ram access better.
Gingerbread doesn't support multiple cores or channels, but ice-cream sandwich will.
I didn't want a phone that would become old technology as soon as the next OS was released.
Not hating the GS2, but single thread benchmarks with a 1.5ghz is not that impressive when the OMAP4 is pretty close at 1ghz and working less than half as hard as the1.5ghz.
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I'm coming from an iPhone 3GS (so, admittedly a few years of technology and freedom behind), but this is easily the best phone (smart or otherwise) that I've ever owned, and I had tried a Samsung Infuse 4G briefly a few months prior.
I'm a little apprehensive to see what the Nexus Prime is going to look like, but I just have to keep reminding myself how much joy this phone has brought me. There's always the possibility of something newer and shinier, but I'm increasingly glad that I pulled the trigger when I did. This phone is a beast

I'm coming from a Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and had a Droid1 before it, so I feel like I understand the strengths/weaknesses of Samsung and Motorola. I appreciate the light weight and great screens of Samsungs. But Samsung is crappy at ongoing software support/updates, and many of the things that don't get the fancy headlines (e.g., call quality, GPS locks, external speaker volume and sound quality) are inferior due to cramming so much stuff in the light/thin phone.
Both of my Motorolas have been heavier and thicker, and I don't love the Bionic screen, but man it just works well. Instant GPS, great audio and call quality, good reception, better battery life.
Sometimes the supermodel is fun to be out with, but doesn't make a great wife.

Coming off a Pantech Matrix,,,,anything is faster.
Only thing I have to complain about is...the locked bootloader

I've owned both the BB Storm and Storm 2, the HTC Imagio, Moto Droid, HTC D.Inc., Moto Droid X, Samsung Droid Charge, and the Moto Droid X2 before this. While I have to say the display on the Charge was nice, the 800x480 resolution is getting old fast. Hell, the OG Droid was the Android device that changed the smartphone "game" in the US when it was released, and it had a higher resolution screen. But the Charge's screen felt... fake and cartoonish. I wanted something in between the DX and the Charge.
The Bionic's screen isn't something to write home about, but the colors are good IMO, the high resolution is perfect, dual core and a gig of quality RAM, 4G LTE and excellent call quality. Out of all the phones I've owned, including flip phones, Motorola's have always been the best in signal and call quality, period. The worst was the D.Inc., even on EVRC-B it was still crappy. Plus the screen... while it was an AMOLED, it had an older Pentile matrix that makes the Bionic look fantastic.
Overall, I'm glad I waited and was able to get the Bionic. People have too high of an expectation when it comes to smartphones. As long as it does what you want, be happy with it. The Bionic does all of that, plus much more and this is by far the best device I've owned.
Oh... and f*ck Apple.

Mmmaannn i have high expectations for the Bionic because #1 its farking 300$ @launch. I think sgs2 was 129$?
#2: all u guys talking about ur OGdroids, I upgraded from an Omnia from 2-3 years. The only thing for me the Bionic is good for is the performance, internet speed and phone speed, and I like the screen the fact that I can clearly read in sunlight.
I'm new to Android. I only played around with it so maybe I'm not familiar with the OS. about winmo I liked was having a task bar like on your desktop where I can hold right click and actually close or minimize. And I mean actually close, when I goto open the app it loads like new. When I use task killer it tells me it killed the apps but same apps keep reapearing. And for example I would kill the browser and when I reopen the browser it opens where I left off.
Also, I played with some Samsung devices and I really like how I can change brightness, screen rotation wifi gps etc. is that like a touch wiz only thing? So apart from the OS I also need to figure the interface? Is there like a complete stock barebones gb platform I can go to? Is that just getting a nexus?
Honestly I got the phone for the specs because you can always tweak usability but you can't add ram or cpu.
Any APPS or Tweak suggestions is greatly appreciated.
Oh btw on my winmo I never had to buy apps I could dl and install cracked vers. Not that I dont want to support devs im just uuber broke (yea rite rocking a 3oo$ fone) it was a gift smarta's.
And I could load a movie on my sd card and coreplayer would play everything even HD with crz stutter bcuz phone too slow. Android I have to start converting files? Wtf? And I also had wifi tether! Wmwifitouter...
Im on the fence should I trade my phone downgrade and get some cash in my pockets or will the Bionic get better?
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Also to add on samsing phone if you hold the home button you get a list of recent apps BUT there's also a button for task manager anyway I can get this on Nothing-but-a-BLUR?
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I'm loving the bionic so far, the one thing that's really annoying me doesn't seem to be a big deal to others. I understand the increased resolution but the font is way too small. It's giving me a headache.
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harpdoc said:
I'm coming from a Samsung Fascinate (Galaxy S) and had a Droid1 before it, so I feel like I understand the strengths/weaknesses of Samsung and Motorola. I appreciate the light weight and great screens of Samsungs. But Samsung is crappy at ongoing software support/updates, and many of the things that don't get the fancy headlines (e.g., call quality, GPS locks, external speaker volume and sound quality) are inferior due to cramming so much stuff in the light/thin phone.
Both of my Motorolas have been heavier and thicker, and I don't love the Bionic screen, but man it just works well. Instant GPS, great audio and call quality, good reception, better battery life.
Sometimes the supermodel is fun to be out with, but doesn't make a great wife.
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you sure hit that one on the head. i have had many phones and i like motorola phones alot. with some tweaks and stuff you can make the bionic a bad a## phone. i love the things you can do with this phone! just amazing!! zumacast is one of my favorite apps ever. despite what others say about the lapdock, i love it.

Atrix HD OBTAINED!

What's up fellow Atrix HD owners! I just picked up the AHD today and am absolutely loving the phone!
I switched over from the GS3 so I am getting a little used to the forum section we have here..Lol but hey I've been following the threads since this section was created! I can't wait for the Developing to begin! The phone is still new so I understand for very slow development at the moment but for now I am enjoying the phone regardless of root or any ROMs!
This community we got so far seems great and I hope to get this phone's full potential out with you guys! :fingers-crossed:
First thing I noticed was the Notification LED!! So happy this phone had it! Made the switch slightly easier haha, also glad to say it is MULT-COLORED!! So we are able to change the color! (Light Flow Lite is the app I used its Free)
How are you guys holding up with the phone thus far?? Especially those whom had the GS3?? You guys enjoying this phone as much as I am?!

Can I ask what made you swap phones?

I love the phone i had the s3 for a day and couldn't stand the feel of the phone or touchwiz. I had the one x which i loved and sold for this and i haven't missed it yet. The one thing i gave up is the battery life but i have an anker battery pack to charge it so it doesn't bother me that much. I think the detail in the screen is amazing coming from my eyes.
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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that loves this phone! It why the hox dropped on price. The phone its really smooth and so close to ics you have too love it. I also heard that a juice pack case us coming out next month for this bad boy so everyone better be ready.. Yea working at an Att store i get to play with all the phones, the gs3 is a bit better do to the 2gb ram but that's really it. I hate the blue tint you can see on the gs3, after using this phone. Also if you have used the native email on thus phone you're missing out its way better than gmail.... I just hope the new update will fix the camera thing
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Wow.. pretty interesting.. you swapped the GS3 for the AHD? Am curious what caused you to make the switch other than the blue tint on the screen. Most people rave about the GS3! And now that the dust has settled from the fiasco with Amazon when I ordered my AHD, I am back to square one trying to decide which phone is best. ATT has bent over backwards for me and is matching any deal I can get from Amazon on the GS3, HOX or AHD so needless to say I'm going to order from ATT directly.
And now that the HOX is the same price as the AHD, it makes the choice a bit more difficult. From what I understand the HOX battery lasts longer and the camera is superior, but the lack of multi-tasking and the hardware/software issues with the phone don't make it that appealing. So the choice now is really between the GS3 and the AHD. With Sammy selling over 10 million GS3's there's obviously tons of people that love the phone, while Moto is far behind in all ways. And it also appears its not likely this phone will get a JB update either.. Any advice you folks can lend? Thanks.

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Yeah mainly I swapped because i really love the feel of the AHD. It feels very firm and well built in hand compared to the GS3. Surprisingly IMO it feels a tad bit lighter as well so I liked that as well. Don't get me wrong though not only build quality but touch wiz was also another reason. It wasn't cutting it for me, the fact the AHD was very ICS and lightly skinned by Moto was a big win! Also spec wise both are very similar! Only setting them apart is the battery and ram but i haven't noticed any problems within those area thus far. Using juice defender and the provided Smart Battery Extender really helped out alot!
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I totally understand how you feel! After having the GS3 for close to a month I was able to really get accustomed to touch wiz and it want quite what i was looking for..it did have ICS embedded but idk there was just something missing. Something theAHD has makes me not miss the GS3 at all haha.
Oh and the display...man just amazing so much clearer and crisp IMO smaller screen but not by much this is just right for me! Loving that color boost!
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tacotino said:
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that loves this phone! It why the hox dropped on price. The phone its really smooth and so close to ics you have too love it. I also heard that a juice pack case us coming out next month for this bad boy so everyone better be ready.. Yea working at an Att store i get to play with all the phones, the gs3 is a bit better do to the 2gb ram but that's really it. I hate the blue tint you can see on the gs3, after using this phone. Also if you have used the native email on thus phone you're missing out its way better than gmail.... I just hope the new update will fix the camera thing
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Haha yeah this phone is just amazing! About the blue tint is very true! Coming from the GS3 I've noticed whites on this phone are very true! Colors just seem more natural as opposed to being very saturated on the GS3 !
I was thinking about getting the HOX but despite having no external micro sd slot that was a deal beaker for me. Also I'm very exited to hear our phones are capable of using a 64gb micro sd as opposed to the advertised 32gb!
And yes only downsides to me are the battery and ram but with juice defender and batt ext. I've noticed nothing less on usage time I was experiencing with the GS3!
Using the gmail app atm since my google account was synced but i have to check that out!
The camera could use a good update actually. Another possible win for the GS3 and HOX is the camera but honestly I've been able to take decent pictures nonetheless!
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nuance4u said:
Wow.. pretty interesting.. you swapped the GS3 for the AHD? Am curious what caused you to make the switch other than the blue tint on the screen. Most people rave about the GS3! And now that the dust has settled from the fiasco with Amazon when I ordered my AHD, I am back to square one trying to decide which phone is best. ATT has bent over backwards for me and is matching any deal I can get from Amazon on the GS3, HOX or AHD so needless to say I'm going to order from ATT directly.
And now that the HOX is the same price as the AHD, it makes the choice a bit more difficult. From what I understand the HOX battery lasts longer and the camera is superior, but the lack of multi-tasking and the hardware/software issues with the phone don't make it that appealing. So the choice now is really between the GS3 and the AHD. With Sammy selling over 10 million GS3's there's obviously tons of people that love the phone, while Moto is far behind in all ways. And it also appears its not likely this phone will get a JB update either.. Any advice you folks can lend? Thanks.
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Getting a price match at ATT is unheard of for me so your actually in a very good position haha. Since your choice had dwindled down to just the AHD and the GS3 it'll be a little tough and I'd say at this point it would be total preference.
Coming from the GS3 the only feature i am current missing is the camera. Yes it did have 2gb ram and bigger screen etc. but the screen is incomparable to the AHD IMHO side by side its noticeable in color hues, quality, clarity. Both are HD i believe the GS3 is using the pentile display still so i was noticing that a lot. With the AHD it was more of a natural look to me which i really love!
As far as battery i did mention that with the use of juice defender and the Smart Actions Battery Extender I'm Sweeting the same amount of usage i had on the GS3! So I'm really only missing out on the camera and ram at this point.
If you really are in a bind though..what i can suggest is you do a trial of both phones, i believe ATT offers a 30 day exchange period, so you can test each phone for 2 weeks to get a good feel Of both phones before actually making a final decision! That is exactly what i did and i couldn't be more happier with my choice haha.
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Well I went to the ATT store and chatted for a while with a rep that's a big Atrix fan.. he has an Atrix 2 that he's rooted etc.. Another very important point to me is when/if the device gets the JB update since Google Now is amazing. My concern about the AHD is that Moto may never unlock the boot loader and may take ages if ever to update to JB. We already know Sammy may send out the update as early as next month or at least before the holidays if not sooner. And the GS3 in garnet red is a very sexy looking device, though it's not as sturdy as the AHD. Since Sammy has sold over 10 million it has quite a following. The only question is am I going to be one of them. At $100 its a lot of phone but I do have concerns about how long the physical home button will last and if it will last. I actually was going to get a GS3 until the AHD came out but now.. I just don't know.

nuance4u said:
Well I went to the ATT store and chatted for a while with a rep that's a big Atrix fan.. he has an Atrix 2 that he's rooted etc.. Another very important point to me is when/if the device gets the JB update since Google Now is amazing. My concern about the AHD is that Moto may never unlock the boot loader and may take ages if ever to update to JB. We already know Sammy may send out the update as early as next month or at least before the holidays if not sooner. And the GS3 in garnet red is a very sexy looking device, though it's not as sturdy as the AHD. Since Sammy has sold over 10 million it has quite a following. The only question is am I going to be one of them. At $100 its a lot of phone but I do have concerns about how long the physical home button will last and if it will last. I actually was going to get a GS3 until the AHD came out but now.. I just don't know.
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Thats a good point. We all know Moto has been very annoying with the BL being locked and taking forever with updates sometimes never, but both previous Atrix devices were capable of porting over ICS not officially though. So i believe that if we don't"officially" get JB down the line if we achieve root access and a possible BL unlock we will also get a port of some sort!
Though it is still too early to say at this time the AHD isn't a month old yet. but if your concern for choosing a device is mainly on official updates this being JB, then the GS3 is the way to go.
Also the color of choice as well. I did mention however in another thread that each color of the GS3 had defects with the back covers. I had the white one and even though i skin cased it from ghost armor from day 1 it still managed to have a horrible crack. The blue GS3 had paint smudges with the back cover, so as far as the red I'm not sure, but what i can say is for build quality i will vouch for the AHD. It feels premium in hand not to mention the kevlar just looks so good IMO very study phone. And to me personally the AHD felt lighter in hand.
I Hope that was of some help, but honestly whichever device you choose its a winner, both phones are in the top right now and you cant go wrong with either device! Good luck!
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Chcl8bananamagk said:
Thats a good point. We all know Moto has been very annoying with the BL being locked and taking forever with updates sometimes never, but both previous Atrix devices were capable of porting over ICS not officially though. So i believe that if we don't"officially" get JB down the line if we achieve root access and a possible BL unlock we will also get a port of some sort!
Though it is still too early to say at this time the AHD isn't a month old yet. but if your concern for choosing a device is mainly on official updates this being JB, then the GS3 is the way to go.
Also the color of choice as well. I did mention however in another thread that each color of the GS3 had defects with the back covers. I had the white one and even though i skin cased it from ghost armor from day 1 it still managed to have a horrible crack. The blue GS3 had paint smudges with the back cover, so as far as the red I'm not sure, but what i can say is for build quality i will vouch for the AHD. It feels premium in hand not to mention the kevlar just looks so good IMO very study phone. And to me personally the AHD felt lighter in hand.
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With the level of security Moto has used this time around, making even rooting the thing a royal pain in the ****, I certainly wouldn't hold my breath waiting on a bl unlock....The Atrix 2 wasn't even this secure and it's bl still remains locked to this day. I have heard of GS3's cracking, but that's not something inherent to the color of the phone. Until it becomes a widespread issue I have to believe it's simply due to user error....many of us for years have been simply ripping our battery covers off like we always do cause the materials we're used to could handle it and they were so thick it was a non-issue. The plastic used on the GS3 battery cover is very thin so it makes sense that during removal the cover can be bent a little too far causing the cracks to happen. The fact of the matter is we have no idea what the users did or didn't do to cause the physical damage. Just like the one guy who claimed his phone spontaneously combusted while charging it in his car....and the issues with the blue battery covers was for the international versions of the phone, I haven't heard of any finish issues with the blue covers on any domestic GS3's.

The bootloaders WILL be unlocked, expect the tool to land somewhere between October & December. I'm hoping to see root before the tool, as I've never been a big fan of voiding warranty officially VIA the manufacturer...
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IP IHI II IL said:
The bootloaders WILL be unlocked, expect the tool to land somewhere between October & December. I'm hoping to see root before the tool, as I've never been a big fan of voiding warranty officially VIA the manufacturer...
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Motorola has not said anything about the Atrix HD other than that it ships with a locked bootloader.

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Motorola has not said anything about the Atrix HD other than that it ships with a locked bootloader.
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Though Moto did say future devices will begin receiving Webkits for BL unlocks maybe they'll have a change of heart with our device considering its the first device released when moto and google got together possibly? Fingers crossed haha
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You have me swetting here deciding myself.. I purchased the HD then ended up taking it back...Comcerned it would never get root and battery life.. I ended up getting a Nitro than after having CWM foul, I bricked the phone (waiting on a refurb tomorrow). Good news is my nephew needs a phone I keep thinking I should give him the Nitro and order the HD in white. The black was very boring yet the white looks nice.
I also own a HOX and Nexus both are great phones all have their drawbacks.
Nexus: Amoled , mever really noticed till playing with a HOX for awhile also NO LTE other than that smooth phone.
HOX just not sure I really like it though it does seem large and has some other minor draws I just don't really like.
I know just friggin spoiled yet hey..LOL

lmarranzino said:
You have me swetting here deciding myself.. I purchased the HD then ended up taking it back...Comcerned it would never get root and battery life.. I ended up getting a Nitro than after having CWM foul, I bricked the phone (waiting on a refurb tomorrow). Good news is my nephew needs a phone I keep thinking I should give him the Nitro and order the HD in white. The black was very boring yet the white looks nice.
I also own a HOX and Nexus both are great phones all have their drawbacks.
Nexus: Amoled , mever really noticed till playing with a HOX for awhile also NO LTE other than that smooth phone.
HOX just not sure I really like it though it does seem large and has some other minor draws I just don't really like.
I know just friggin spoiled yet hey..LOL
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That's awesome man you got plenty of phones to choose from haha! Reminds me of myself though i airways switch between phones!
Personally while i did have the gs3 in white i also wanted the AHD in white although radio shack did not carry that color in store, but i would really love the white color, it would make me love the phone even way more!
Though how did you like the phone regardless of color while you owned it? If you do decide to go back and pick this bad boy up regardless of no root atm it's a solid device!
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I to switched from the gs3. I loved the phone, but just like my previous Samsung device i didn't get a signal in my living room. So far with the ahd i get 2-3 bars in my living room.
With that being said, i do feel like i downgraded. However the main reason to have a phone is to be able to use it as a phone, right? Lol
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I just got this phone yesterday and to be honest it's a big improvement over the galaxy nexus. Even without jelly bean this phone is smoother and faster.
I will post my battery life later today. I think my phone is going to last 4 days with normal usage. I do use it but not a 8 hour a day type usage..LOL
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[Q]Might Buy a Droid 3

hey im interested in buying. I am moving from an atrix 4g but keeping it just incase. im wondering does this have fully functiong jelly bean? and is it easy to root? idk what else to ask but feel free to convince me!

This phone has a great community and is easy to root. ICS or JB should be near fully functional shortly (thanks guys!) - looks like the camera is among the last few remaining speed bumps. Still, consider all your options - some people prefer a manufacturer driven ICS/JB build over a community project. It all depends on what's more fun for you.
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Get the droid 3 if you want full QWERTY.
Without the qwerty, there are quite some phones that are better (more ram, faster cpu, better screen, full android 4.x)

im a bit confused. soo is the droid 3 basically in the same state in the atrix or like the camera just isnt working or something?

Camera isn't working right now. It might never work, since we lack the proper drivers to make it work. Just buy it if you want full QWERTY and is short on money
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AragornPE said:
Camera isn't working right now. It might never work, since we lack the proper drivers to make it work. Just buy it if you want full QWERTY and is short on money
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would you recommend upgrade from atrix 4g? its kinda a spec downgrade and if not should i just buy it? im getting it for around under 100 like 100-70 should i test it out then resell? and if resell would i be making or losing $ and by how much. thanks guys!

A new Galaxy Nexus can be had for $100 with contract if a keyboard isn't a must have for you.
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A new Galaxy Nexus can be had for $100 with contract if a keyboard isn't a must have for you.
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that is my dream phone but i cant afford it i go off contract with a no contract company

I'd suggest you to stay away from this phone for your own sake. Or buy it second-hand for not more, than 200 bucks. The worst smartphone ever made.

TOTALLY DISAGREE. BEST QWERTY DEVICE EVER MADE!
I owned these Android devices, and find the Droid 3 the best: HTC Hero, Motorola Milestone, Samsung Galaxy, HTC Desire, HTC Desire Z, Motorola Milestone 2, Motorola Droid 3.
There is only one downside for me, no official ICS.
It's display is GREAT, especially outdoors. You can use FM Radio, Camera is perfect (with the right modifications), battery life is good, keyboard is awesome, build quality top notch.
There is no reason to describe it as "worst smartphone ever made"...

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It's display is GREAT, especially outdoors. You can use FM Radio, Camera is perfect (with the right modifications), battery life is good, keyboard is awesome, build quality top notch.
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Totally agree with you, but there is one single point making the device great micro-tab with QWERTY - as the phone with CDMA networks device is extremely poor. It doesn't work with non-Verizon EV-DO networks, therefore loses the network pretty often and reboots deliberately twice a day. Half-time the phone is offline and this makes the device of totally no use as communicator.

Did you apply the GSM option that leads to much better reception? It gave me the double amount of signal bars and stopped loosing signal immediately.
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I like my phone but the lack of a stable update is kinda saddening but we got a high quality dev and he is working on it.

It's great if you don't mind lack of official OS updates, and if you can find one without keyboard issues. I've got one of the ones with bad keys and it makes the keyboard pretty much unusable. Aside from that, though, it's pretty fast and capapble, has a nice screen, feels pretty good in the hand, and has a variety of accessories available.

Droid 4 worth getting for $100-150?

On a Thunderbolt now and one of the few to still have true unlimited data.. I miss a keyboard, new to the D4 area and getting familiar w/ ROMs and what not, just wondering if you'd recommend it. Mainly just want to keep my 4G and get a keyboard. ICS will be nice but never messed w/ it much on my Thunderbolt.
Thanks in advance!

Just a week ago, I picked up a used Droid 4 as a replacement for my ailing (and LTE'less) droid 3.
Overall I am very happy with it, and I have to say, I can type faster on this keyboard than any other keyboard phone I've had. It's wonderful.
That said, it's still a midrange phone with a somewhat mediocre display... but all the mediocrity is absolutely worth having a keyboard IMO.

It's a good phone if you need a keyboard. I'm jealous of all the development going on with the Razr HD so I'm slowly practicing using the onscreen keyboard and in a couple months when I'm eligible to upgrade I will. The only thing that disappoints me about the Razr HD is that they didn't put 2gb of ram which I think should be the standard for a company's topline phone.

This is good input. I don't need high resolution, I need stability, battery life, and a keyboard, even if its a little bulkier. I also need VZN out of my pockets and lack budget to get anything newer at non upgrade prices. Thanks gents.
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I just came from a droid 3. Let's be honest...this is a flagship phone! The specs are not mid range, they are top notch when the phone was released. The device is is sweet. I get amazing battery on stock rom. Some apps I froze...its smooth. I usually turn off animation to increase speed...I haven't had to yet. I got a deal on mine, but for brand new, I would gladly pay 150.
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It's absolutely worth that. I'm coming from an LG Revolution, which has performance very similar to your Thunderbolt. Trust me, the D4 is quite a bit better. Yes, the screen was never going to win any awards, but otherwise it performs very well, and the screen's shortcomings are rarely a real issue in actual use. And the battery life, while not up to Razr Maxx standards, is still decent. And then there's the keyboard...just superb. It puts this phone (and now the Photon Q) in a class of its own.

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It's absolutely worth that. I'm coming from an LG Revolution, which has performance very similar to your Thunderbolt. Trust me, the D4 is quite a bit better. Yes, the screen was never going to win any awards, but otherwise it performs very well, and the screen's shortcomings are rarely a real issue in actual use. And the battery life, while not up to Razr Maxx standards, is still decent. And then there's the keyboard...just superb. It puts this phone (and now the Photon Q) in a class of its own.
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You know what, after using my D4 for awhile, you're absolutely right. The Performance of my D4 is well worth the upgrade from the D3, not something I necessarily expected. The screen still sucks in some ways, but it looks great when it's turned up all the way. Better than my D3 as well. and lastly, the battery life is also way better than my D3 (which probably actually had a battery that was on it's way out).
I couldn't be happier with my purchase, especially the magnificent keyboard. I can type SO FAST on my phone, so much faster than my D3. I love it.
Droid 4 really is an exceptional keyboard phone. I really am sad that there probably won't be a Droid 5.

Yeah, you may be right. I'll be sad if they don't make a D5. But who knows, that they bothered to make the Photon Q might be a sign that they're not giving up on the slide out form factor. We can hope.

I love mine
I've had my Droid 4 for a few months now and I must say that I absolutely love this device. Its fast, the keyboard feels great and the display is awesome. It will be hard to top this device for me as I require a keyboard.

It's Heavy. Which actually is noticeable when you're trying to relax in bed and check some news or play a game. I came from a Droid X to this Droid 4. I missed the keyboard of my other phone that I had long ago (LG enV2, lol). I thought it would be nice to text with a keyboard again, since being with a all touch screen phone got annoying (I loved Swiftkey tho at the time I made this decision) and I didn't really like Swype, it had some bugs and it's predictions weren't as nice as Swiftkey. Now that Swiftkey Flow is coming out and even usable in beta form... I decided I made the wrong mistake. Swype was proven to be faster than physical keyboards and now Swiftkey Flow improved upon it even further. Also, all this locked bootloader crap is annoying. I think this will be my last Motorola phone, since I had so much fun with my Droid X and this phone all I do is wait for Hashcode day after day. It's old. Keep in mind, there are many apps like Airdroid, which you can type from your pc (you must be connected to the same router on the pc and phone) with your keyboard and have all your Android info right there. Depending on the status of the next Moto device, probably the "X", that will determine what I will get next year around October. If you really enjoy modding your OS and phone, I highly recommend just using Swiftkey Flow and getting a nice screened phone and unlockable bootloader. However, the build quality is amazing and the keyboard also looks amazing and it has never missed a key-press.