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I cannot seem to send sms messages when I install handcent on this phone. Mms work fine, and I can receive all day. Not sure why, has anyone else seen this?
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that's interesting cuz i was having similar issues as well.. not all the time, but just had that first occurence yesterday. Have you tried sending a message and waiting for the "spinning" timer disappear before exiting the convo?
I have used handcent since day one with the phone and have had no issues. Im not sure what may be wrong with yours but maybe wait until the circle stops spinning like ^^ said
ckochinsky125 said:
I have used handcent since day one with the phone and have had no issues. Im not sure what may be wrong with yours but maybe wait until the circle stops spinning like ^^ said
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Yeah, I have. It works fine on my gf fascinate, but not mine. Funny thing is, I've gone all the way back to stock and still won't work. Maybe a network profile thing.
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I have a similar problem except SMS works fine for me but I cannot receive MMS messages. I can send MMS fine though... I hope 2.2 will fix it.
Daswolven,
Aren't you the same person that posted that thread about removing junk apps? I think some of those VZWSMS apk's you deleted might be affecting your ability to text because I removed everything VZW.apk and had too many issues with texting such as receiving the same message 30x's, people receiving an error message saying I never received their message even though I did, etc... So I reflashed an ODIN file and only removed the obvious apps such as Bing, Blockbuster,etc. Phone has been perfect with handcent since then. The stock messaging app will not tell you which exact message failed to be sent which is why I went with handcent.
ithecho84 ,
Contact tech support and have the "flush" out your cell number. I had the same problem with my DROID and they did something to the switch in the network and I have never had an issue with MMS ever again.
carrick1107 said:
Daswolven,
Aren't you the same person that posted that thread about removing junk apps? I think some of those VZWSMS apk's you deleted might be affecting your ability to text because I removed everything VZW.apk and had too many issues with texting such as receiving the same message 30x's, people receiving an error message saying I never received their message even though I did, etc... So I reflashed an ODIN file and only removed the obvious apps such as Bing, Blockbuster,etc. Phone has been perfect with handcent since then. The stock messaging app will not tell you which exact message failed to be sent which is why I went with handcent.
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I am the same person.
I also know exactly what the apps I remove do.
None of the apps I removed affect sms to cause the issues I am having.
My g/f has the same phone. I have removed the same apps on hers, she doesn't have the issues.
I have a buddy with a droid incredible on CM6, he flashed a new radio and couldn't text his GF, but only her.
I have another friend with a Droid2 who cannot use handcent.
The handcent boards have posts from people on every network with various phone who have various issues.
I never had a problem with handcent on my N1.
So then, Mr. Logic boy. Put that together for me with the pieces I have given you.
let me know what you come up with.
P.S.: You may have missed the "I went back to stock and it still didn't work" part of This Thread.
Make sure the stock Mms.apk app is there, reboot and give it a try. I also saw a few days ago you moved the sns apps off - out of curiosity, do you know what these do? For some reason I left them in there. I know you said you went back to stock and all, but I had some issues when I tried to get rid of the stock Mms.apk. That's all I can think of. Outside of that, try doing a logcat while sending a text to see what the logs say.
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Make sure the stock Mms.apk app is there, reboot and give it a try. I also saw a few days ago you moved the sns apps off - out of curiosity, do you know what these do? For some reason I left them in there. I know you said you went back to stock and all, but I had some issues when I tried to get rid of the stock Mms.apk. That's all I can think of. Outside of that, try doing a logcat while sending a text to see what the logs say.
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The sns enable the syncing with the integrated Twitter, Facebook, and Myspace clients into your address book and the TouchWiz widgets. I have no use for these, as to me it's unnecessary contact clutter, and sync drain to boot.
The stock Mms app can be replaced, and has been, but I use the stock for the ability to select multiple recipients which is absent in the Android stock mms.
I haven't figured out all the differences between the Verizon and T-mo network stuff yet, but I will do some research as I have time, because I am 90% sure my problem lies there. The tech support I've been able to get through to seems uninterested in any kind of in depth troubleshooting, instead urging me to replace the handset, which I will not do.
I had same issue and I uninstall and put it back without using the back up data from a back up . Worked great .
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SMS Issues
If you look at your contacts and see an + in front Example (+1-555-555-5555) it will not send. Im coming from GSM service so I had to re-edit all my contacts and remove all the + symbol from the front. It worked for me. Hope this helps with any SMS issues not just directly to Handcent.
rolo12010 said:
If you look at your contacts and see an + in front Example (+1-555-555-5555) it will not send. Im coming from GSM service so I had to re-edit all my contacts and remove all the + symbol from the front. It worked for me. Hope this helps with any SMS issues not just directly to Handcent.
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OMG.
I hate when something that drives you completely crazy is this simple.
Why in the hell doesn't Verizon know this? ha. Thanx.
Daswolven said:
I cannot seem to send sms messages when I install handcent on this phone. Mms work fine, and I can receive all day. Not sure why, has anyone else seen this?
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I was wondering if you resolved your problem with Handcent? I have a problem now where if I try and attach a picture to a mms directly from the camera Handcent force closes. I tried the same thing with the stock MMS and same result. I went to Rom Manager and downloaded the MMS.apk for the ROM that I am running. I tried it again on Handcent, same result, but I was able to do it from the stock MMS I downloaded. I personally like all the options that Handcent has and would like to know if you have any suggestions regarding my problem.
Yeppers. Whatever the issue was stopped after I changed my methods of building from stock a bit.
Never managed to pin point it.
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I'm confused by the notes about the "+" in front of phone numbers? Why would you have a "+" like that, and what does that have to do with GSM? Furthermore, can you send a text to these numbers with the stock Messaging app, but NOT Handcent? Or does it work in neither? Thanks.
If you find a specific, reproduceable issue with Handcent though, especially if you know the cause, let me know if you want, because I've been working with one of the developers (or the developer, I'm not sure) - Jack, directly and frequently. I'm the one that cleaned up the Handcent forums to get rid of all the spam threads/users recently (if you've ever been there, you'll know how horrible it was prior), and helped him get it changed over to SMF from phpbb2, etc. I'm also a mod on the forums there, and I've been testing a few bugs directly with him, on beta builds of Handcent. So I can certainly bring something to his attention directly if it warrants it.
Is anyone having problems with the stock Messages app?
I expored/imported all my messages from my old phone into IS using sms backup&restore.
The Messages app craps out on me multiple times a day. It will try to load a contacts messages and gets stuck on Loading. If I exit and then open it again it's totally empty, no messages of any kind. It may come back eventually but usually I just reboot to get it going again.
Another problem is it's loading with drafts from messages months old. It's weird, when I loaded it I can see some users tagged with "Draft". If I open that user I can see a typed out message that's months old.
Weird, it's acting very strange and driving me nuts.
(installing 3rd party sms app is not the anwer I'm looking for )
Clear all your messages i find it slows down my phone and acts buggy also if I have a couple hundred sms, delete them and start fresh btw why are you saving them just curious
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My old Magic did not have this problem and this is supposed to be a more powerful device
I can't remember ever using the stock app. Handcent has always served me pretty well, though I understand it has bugs for some people.
I've noticed that I get a lot of duplicate texts or they are out of sync when coming in and just curious if anyone else is seeing this?
I'm currently on my own ROM but noticed this on full stock as well.
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+1 on duplicate texts. Also noticed when I get a reply in the same minute it lists above the original text
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Just an AT&T thing, methinks.
I've always had this, even when I was back on the LG Shine.
Same here. What SMS app are you all using? Go SMS here
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I usally get duplicates when I'm texting someone using a iPhone, out of sync happens when your having a fast paced text convo , notice it mostly happens texting a blackberry, with that said I don't have the sync issue much anymore but 6 months ago when everyone still had a bb it was out of control
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It happened most when it's within same minute but there's plenty of times where it could be 5 minutes between and I'll get duplicate texts that come in. It's pretty annoying. And I'm just using stock messaging app.
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I'm on the Rogers network here in Canada and I have noticed that as well. I thought maybe it was just the provider, but it may be a system issue. I'm just using the stock messages app that comes with the ROM. I have chompSMS installed as it sorts the message better than the stock app.
There's no fix for this yet, I've searched already. I think is related to the new pta lte apn since I didn't have the problem before on hspa...
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I have the same issue, but I've had it since I got the Vivid back in November. I just assumed it was an AT&T network issue, but I never had that problem before with other phones. Hearing that it happens with the Raider in Canada makes me wonder if it's something in the phone itself and the way it pulls messages from the network.
I'm not 100% sure of this (just a hunch) but I'm wondering if it has something to do with the NTP servers that HTC has the device set to sync with to get the time (or the method that it gets the current time from the cell network).
It would appear that the clock is just a few seconds behind everyone else's...
I suppose I'll take a look at it here shortly, since this has been happening to me since day 0 of owning this phone and it's quite annoying...
try using this to assign the correct time for w when the messages come through
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sms-time-fix/com.mattprecious.smsfix
Yeah, Ive noticed the exact same thing. If you get a message in the same minute as the one you sent it puts the new message you received above the one you sent. Ive also noticed duplicate messages from people as well, thought it was just them, but when it was mentioned about the duplicate messages coming from iPhone users, that sounds right. Does anyone see any fixes coming anytime soon? Forgot to mention that im completely stock right now, using the stock SMS app. Haven't unlocked the bootloader, rooted, or put a custom rom on it yet.
try using the link from the above post, let me know if you have any success
This issue has been driving me nuts. Sometimes I get the same text three times in a row. And sometimes every single text I get is duplicated. I have unlimited texts, but it's annoying and it shouldn't happen. I'm using stock ROM and stock messaging app and I seriously doubt any other app will resolve this. It's either something specific to Sense, or it's the LTE.
Either way, I wish they would fix it. If I didn't like the phone so much, I would have taken it back over this.
davidcampbell said:
try using this to assign the correct time for w when the messages come through
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sms-time-fix/com.mattprecious.smsfix
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Thanks for the link. App is downloading as we speak...
greyhulk said:
I seriously doubt any other app will resolve this.
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If you simply follow the link, you will see that it is a timing correction app. Not an alternate messaging app.
All "messaging" app's on android utilize the same central database for text message storage, this app runs in the background and detects incomming messages, it then corrects the time on the message as it comes in to reflect the local time on the device, therefor correcting time sync issues. It is a common problem for many mobile devices and there are many apps that resolve the same issue.
This has happened on a large number of devices for a very long time. The root cause is often the time servers in use by either the sending or recieving ISP. The problem can be intermittant as often service providers utilize multiple servers operating in tandem, this same tandem issue can also cause the mutlple messages.
Please take my advice and try the app & hit the thanks button if it helps you
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If you simply follow the link, you will see that it is a timing correction app. Not an alternate messaging app.
All "messaging" app's on android utilize the same central database for text message storage, this app runs in the background and detects incomming messages, it then corrects the time on the message as it comes in to reflect the local time on the device, therefor correcting time sync issues. It is a common problem for many mobile devices and there are many apps that resolve the same issue.
This has happened on a large number of devices for a very long time. The root cause is often the time servers in use by either the sending or recieving ISP. The problem can be intermittant as often service providers utilize multiple servers operating in tandem, this same tandem issue can also cause the mutlple messages.
Please take my advice and try the app & hit the thanks button if it helps you
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Will try the app you linked to. Found the exact app in the Android Market since I didn't have AppBrain...
davidcampbell said:
If you simply follow the link, you will see that it is a timing correction app. Not an alternate messaging app.
All "messaging" app's on android utilize the same central database for text message storage, this app runs in the background and detects incomming messages, it then corrects the time on the message as it comes in to reflect the local time on the device, therefor correcting time sync issues. It is a common problem for many mobile devices and there are many apps that resolve the same issue.
This has happened on a large number of devices for a very long time. The root cause is often the time servers in use by either the sending or recieving ISP. The problem can be intermittant as often service providers utilize multiple servers operating in tandem, this same tandem issue can also cause the mutlple messages.
Please take my advice and try the app & hit the thanks button if it helps you
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Ive been using the app for a little while now, and it seems to have fixed the problem. All my messages have been in the correct order so far. Is this app supposed to fix the duplicate text problem too or just the issue with the time stamp? I havent gotten any duplicate text since I started using it, but I wasnt sure if it was because of the app or if Ive just been lucky.
I have been having the same problem as this as well. It's super annoying, especially since I tend to have fast paced conversations, so my texts are always out of order. And every time I get a duplicate text message, my phone vibrates or rings again, which is really irritating since there isn't actually a new message.
I noticed this happened on the stock messaging app, and a while ago I switched to Go SMS. I didn't seem to have nearly as many problems with texts being out of order or receiving duplicate texts. In fact, it seemed to go away almost completely with Go SMS. But while using Go SMS, my friends told me that about every 3 text messages, they would receive the same text from me anywhere from 2 to 6 times. That was ridiculous! I loved Go SMS, but I had to switch back to stock because of the repeated text sending, even though now I have to deal with the duplicates on my end.
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Ive been using the app for a little while now, and it seems to have fixed the problem. All my messages have been in the correct order so far. Is this app supposed to fix the duplicate text problem too or just the issue with the time stamp? I havent gotten any duplicate text since I started using it, but I wasnt sure if it was because of the app or if Ive just been lucky.
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I beleive that it identifies incomming messages and drops the text if it is a duplicate, but you would need to contact the developer, I'm just a google search user
So I somehow borked messaging on my phone. Only it's deeper than that. Let's rewind a bit, shall we?
So about a week and a half ago, I started experimenting with different popup programs for SMS/MMS messages, since I'm not a big fan of how laggy chat heads can be with FB Messenger. I went through app after app comparing features until I settled on Glowfly. Everything seemed to be working fine until my sister tried to message me and my parents. It looked to me like she had just messaged me individually, and when I tried to send out a new group message with them all in it, I noticed it sent separate SMS messages to each person instead of a group MMS. And they didn't receive as a group message; it was all individual messages to them too. My first reaction was to uninstall Glowfly, but the damage was done. No matter what I've tried, this issue is persisting. I don't know if something messed up MMS settings on the network for me, or what, but even wiping and doing a clean install of roms (both stock and Sense) have the exact same issue, even if I don't restore anything with TIBU or install anything at all. The only thing I can think is that maybe it's pulling wrong MMS settings from Google, or it's something on the network acting screwy, but no one else is having this issue. Oh, and here's the weirdest part: I can still get MMS messages with pictures. So MMS is not flat-out broken. I just don't understand how it can persist through wipes and clean installs. Anyway, does anyone have any idea what could be happening?
Its not MMS, its not an included feature in 4.1, it got added in 4.2. Try Textra. Its in the play store. Has popups and group messaging built in. Super clean and stable texting app. My wife and mom have been using it on their firsts, and have had no issues at all. Hope that helps.
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My messages app STRAIGHT SUCKS!
i have no clue why, but everything I do it lags. I click in the text field and the keyboard takes forever to open (both stock Samsung keyboard and swype), i go too fast typing and it lags, possibly force closes, i try to send a message, it takes forever to add it to the list of responses and actually send, it's not even a signal thing, the app itself takes FOREVER and if I try to start typing before it posts or and send, it can freeze up and fc... if i even get a simple picture mms, my phone might force close and I've even had one time where my wife sent multiple mms in a row and it caused a hot reboot!
This is a stock app... i tried using stock keyboard, thinking that was it, no difference. I tried removing the image from the wallpaper on the messages background, that did nothing. ... there shouldn't be problems with either of those 2 things anyways! My gs4 did fine with similar STOCK features and aftermarket keyboards....
This is horrible.
Not rooted. Updated. Both Samsung keyboard and official swype. Both with in app custom picture background, preset color background and stock background.
I love everything else about this phone, but I'm about to return this thing, i shouldn't have to root to fix a stock app.
Anyone else have/had these problems? Any way to resolve them?
Just use Hangouts.
p()()pypants said:
My messages app STRAIGHT SUCKS!
i have no clue why, but everything I do it lags. I click in the text field and the keyboard takes forever to open (both stock Samsung keyboard and swype), i go too fast typing and it lags, possibly force closes, i try to send a message, it takes forever to add it to the list of responses and actually send, it's not even a signal thing, the app itself takes FOREVER and if I try to start typing before it posts or and send, it can freeze up and fc... if i even get a simple picture mms, my phone might force close and I've even had one time where my wife sent multiple mms in a row and it caused a hot reboot!
This is a stock app... i tried using stock keyboard, thinking that was it, no difference. I tried removing the image from the wallpaper on the messages background, that did nothing. ... there shouldn't be problems with either of those 2 things anyways! My gs4 did fine with similar STOCK features and aftermarket keyboards....
This is horrible.
Not rooted. Updated. Both Samsung keyboard and official swype. Both with in app custom picture background, preset color background and stock background.
I love everything else about this phone, but I'm about to return this thing, i shouldn't have to root to fix a stock app.
Anyone else have/had these problems? Any way to resolve them?
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I guess that even though it was fine on my gs4, the note 4 didn't like the 13.5K text messages i restored the phone with my backup program... considering I have to record texts with an Ex, this us somewhat concerning, and a pain not have all texts backed up into one file and makes me wonder that despite allowing me to have "no limit"on my text messages, that it will eventually be too much and slow the program down to useless speeds again...
I just backed up all sms, set backup app as primary messages, deleted all sms texts, cleared data/cache/defaults on stock messages app, reset phone, reset stock app as default and boom, everything is flying again...
So if anyone ever gets a huge lag in their messages app, backup old messages if you want them, then delete all sms messages with a third party app cause if you want to keep your mms, deleting threads/convos with stock app will delete mms too if you haven't saved then some other way...
N suggest using hangouts? Really? The answer is fix what's broken, not leave it behind, that does no-one any good.
Similar situation but with knowledge of it
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I guess that even though it was fine on my gs4, the note 4 didn't like the 13.5K text messages i restored the phone with my backup program... considering I have to record texts with an Ex, this us somewhat concerning, and a pain not have all texts backed up into one file and makes me wonder that despite allowing me to have "no limit"on my text messages, that it will eventually be too much and slow the program down to useless speeds again...
I just backed up all sms, set backup app as primary messages, deleted all sms texts, cleared data/cache/defaults on stock messages app, reset phone, reset stock app as default and boom, everything is flying again...
So if anyone ever gets a huge lag in their messages app, backup old messages if you want them, then delete all sms messages with a third party app cause if you want to keep your mms, deleting threads/convos with stock app will delete mms too if you haven't saved then some other way...
N suggest using hangouts? Really? The answer is fix what's broken, not leave it behind, that does no-one any good.
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I've always had this problem whenever i restore my backed-up conversations, but in my case, it's only the first time i open a conversation i've recently restored from a backup, after that, it's just fine. I'm guessing this might be because it has to create some sort of cache the first time the system opens the entire conversation for you to read.
What i usually do... Get new phone, restore previous sms/mms, open each conversation for the first time and when i'm actually going to text, i get no lag or extensive wait for the messages to open-up. I hope that is also your case and you can deal with that LONG first wait.
PS- yes, i also NEED to keep a backup of my exes *sigh* those messages are my legal defenders ^_^
I never had an issue with restore but I delete the stock messeging app. Chomp works way better
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