[Q] Cracking bootloader for W8 E16i - XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Any body has cracked bootloaded and installed custom kernel on their W8, can any body help?? are there any chances of bricking the device?

of course there are chances of bricking your phone... check this guide out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254225
i dont have w8 but it says "| X8 | W8 | X10 mini | X10 mini pro |" so i thing you are ok

ghost9685 said:
are there any chances of bricking the device?
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Yes, there's a chance you could hard brick your device badly.
Read this thread carefully!

Thanks, i read the posts and it seems i can crack the boot loader. coz the sticker on my battery says 11W23.

ghost9685 said:
coz the sticker on my battery says 11W23.
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Not ON the battery - on the sticker ON THE CASE OF THE PHONE BELOW THE BATTERY!
i.e. my X8 is 11W06 ... though parts of it have a different date codes ... the camera is 10W48, the battery is 11W04 and so on.

B.Jay said:
Not ON the battery - on the sticker ON THE CASE OF THE PHONE BELOW THE BATTERY!
i.e. my X8 is 11W06 ... though parts of it have a different date codes ... the camera is 10W48, the battery is 11W04 and so on.
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Have you unlocked your BL @B.Jay?
My BL is 11W06 and I've always refrained from unlocking it.
Sent from my X8 using xda premium

IrishStuff09 said:
Have you unlocked your BL @B.Jay?
My BL is 11W06 and I've always refrained from unlocking it.
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Yes, I had the boot loader unlocked for some testing purposes (unlocking and re-locking as someone around here had a problem with it - even tried Alfs for a short testing round) - worked like a charm.

B.Jay said:
Yes, I had the boot loader unlocked for some testing purposes (unlocking and re-locking as someone around here had a problem with it - even tried Alfs for a short testing round) - worked like a charm.
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Ah, thanks B.Jay
I'M gonna look into getting it unlocked. First I've gotta find a reason to force myself to go back to Stock 2.1! Lol
Sent from my X8 using xda premium

Guys thanks, i saw on the sticker on the phone below the battery it says 11W27... is it crackable??

ghost9685 said:
Guys thanks, i saw on the sticker on the phone below the battery it says 11W27... is it crackable??
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As long as it is not pass 11W29 it should have no problem. Although there is always a chance.
---------- Post added at 09:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:39 AM ----------
Bricking is still repairable... Hard bricking is... not so.

ghost9685 said:
Guys thanks, i saw on the sticker on the phone below the battery it says 11W27... is it crackable??
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hi...i m also from india & recently i bought w8. as ur signature shows bootloader unlock & i also want to unlock my bootloader.....then can u plz tell me steps to unlock it.
i read this article http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254225
but the step 5 is a bit confusing. so i request u to help me

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Try to unlock bootloader->HARD BRICK! HELP?

i try to unlock bootloader(11W46) followed instructions and HARD BRICK!!
i dont recommend anyone to try to do this (11W33+)
i am going to send it to SE for repair but i dont know are they going to fix it(cuz i try to unlock BL)
so when i take it to SE what should i tell them?
1.i try to unloc BL?
2.my friend try to unlock BL(and i know it)?
3.my friend take mobile phone for playing and then try to unlock BL?
4......
Help pls(B.Jay don't be mad)
mario1024 said:
i try to unlock bootloader(11W46) followed instructions and HARD BRICK!!
i dont recommend anyone to try to do this (11W33+)
i am going to send it to SE for repair but i dont know are they going to fix it(cuz i try to unlock BL)
so when i take it to SE what should i tell them?
1.i try to unloc BL?
2.my friend try to unlock BL(and i know it)?
3.my friend take mobile phone for playing and then try to unlock BL?
4......
Help pls(B.Jay don't be mad)
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Ok
1st: b.jay isnt mad or angry or anything, he is simply helping people who fail to read the most important words and just look at the thanks they get, 11w42 are you f%&@ing crazy!?!?! Lol
You do realise that there are about 6 threads about exactly NOT doing this!
Anyway , tell em that you were playing a game when it suddenly crashed your phone and it dont respond or turn on at all, even.after charging
-wilbso
Sent from my X8 using XDA App
Not being a douche or anything but it does clearly say everywhere that you WILL get a HARD BRICK if you try to unlock your bootloader if your manufacturing date is 11w30 or over.
Sorry about your phone btw.
Good luck,
- Shane
mario1024 said:
i try to unlock bootloader(11W46) followed instructions and HARD BRICK!!
i dont recommend anyone to try to do this (11W33+)
i am going to send it to SE for repair but i dont know are they going to fix it(cuz i try to unlock BL)
so when i take it to SE what should i tell them?
1.i try to unloc BL?
2.my friend try to unlock BL(and i know it)?
3.my friend take mobile phone for playing and then try to unlock BL?
4......
Help pls(B.Jay don't be mad)
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Why would I be mad at you?
I CLEARLY told you by PM: "DO NOT TRY"
Additionally there's also the hard brick warning sticky over in the X8 General section.
If you decide to disregard each and every warning that has been given to you - your dismay, not mine.
As posted for quite some times now: There's no way by which ANYONE of us can help you now. The phone is dead and beyond any repair possibilities you can try at home. It seems you already found out that the last option is to send the phone off to SE for repair.
I just wouldn't recommend telling them outright what you did - otherwise the response could turn out to be: "Oh, so you tried to unlock the boot loader? Why thank you for telling us, because hacking your phone voids your warranty. Thank you very much for choosing Sony Ericsson and we hope you continue to enjoy our products."
Best shot would be to tell them it suddenly didn't work anymore.
Oh, and once you get the repaired phone back...
DO NOT TRY TO UNLOCK THAT DAMN BOOT LOADER AGAIN!
The warning clearly doesn't exists to run a prank on y'all ... the warning is clearly there to prevent such situations (and at least with the X8 the critical manufacturing date code IS 11W29 - no matter what other "OMFG mah unlocked mah 11W40 no probs kthxbye" post).
Holy sh! 7! Not again....
Sent from my X8 using xda premium
mario1024 said:
i try to unlock bootloader(11W46) followed instructions and HARD BRICK!!
i dont recommend anyone to try to do this (11W33+)
i am going to send it to SE for repair but i dont know are they going to fix it(cuz i try to unlock BL)
so when i take it to SE what should i tell them?
1.i try to unloc BL?
2.my friend try to unlock BL(and i know it)?
3.my friend take mobile phone for playing and then try to unlock BL?
4......
Help pls(B.Jay don't be mad)
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Just put it in trash...i don't think they will replace it with a new one or repair moneyfree so you will need to pay. I think you should buy a new one from ebay or another site they have them in pretty low price...i hope your battery code this time will be under -29
Sent from my E15i using xda premium
stamatis16 said:
i hope your battery code this time will be under -29
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I feel like preaching to stones...
NOT THE DATE CODE ON THE BATTERY, THE WHITE STICKER BELOW!
B.Jay said:
I feel like preaching to stones...
NOT THE DATE CODE ON THE BATTERY, THE WHITE STICKER BELOW!
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don't be angry B.Jay
u r kind-hearted
but for your thread warning unlocking
my phone would be in trash (11W34)
B.Jay said:
I feel like preaching to stones...
NOT THE DATE CODE ON THE BATTERY, THE WHITE STICKER BELOW!
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i know, yes that what i mean , sorry for my bad english...
semdxd said:
don't be angry B.Jay
u r kind-hearted
but for your thread warning unlocking
my phone would be in trash (11W34)
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He's not angry, he is kind hearted but he isnt angry,
In fact b.jay and irushstuff09 are right, there are millions of threads saying not to unlock your bootloader.
SO WHY THE %!£$ HAVE NONE OF YOU LISTENED TO IT!!!
Try checking this
OR this
or might i just put some quote around this:
This post is intended to point your attention to the simple fact that there's a hardware imposed danger to hard brick your Xperia X8 and W8, applies to E15i/a and E16i/a, at the attempt to unlock the boot loader!
The phones affected by the problem are units being manufactured at, and after, 11W29!
To check if your device is affected by the problem follow this simple steps:
Turn off the phone and open it up
Take out the battery
Look at the sticker below
If the date code on the sticker reads 11W29, or any later date (11W30, 11W31, 11W32, 11W33, ...), DO NOT attempt to unlock the boot loader.
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(Thanks b.jay for your thread)
I do have the answer to this:
The new (2011/2012) SE phones (or just new xperia x8's) have a security hole. They have a revamped chipset configuration. This basically means that attempting to unlock your bootloader will end up in a hard brick, and there is no way to revive the phone yourself
I was lucky cuz my date is 10w46
Hope this helped
mario1024 said:
i try to unlock bootloader(11W46) followed instructions and HARD BRICK!!
i dont recommend anyone to try to do this (11W33+)
i am going to send it to SE for repair but i dont know are they going to fix it(cuz i try to unlock BL)
so when i take it to SE what should i tell them?
1.i try to unloc BL?
2.my friend try to unlock BL(and i know it)?
3.my friend take mobile phone for playing and then try to unlock BL?
4......
Help pls(B.Jay don't be mad)
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11w46, and u still went for it despite the fact that there are lotta threads warning abt unlocking bootloader later then 11w29...... awesome....
semdxd said:
don't be angry B.Jay
u r kind-hearted
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No, it's a fact that I AM preaching to deaf ears ...
Please note the "on my battery" - wow, just... wow
"note the on my battery"
???
if you are talking adout me i have never told sth like this.
stamatis16 said:
Just put it in trash...i don't think they will replace it with a new one or repair moneyfree so you will need to pay. I think you should buy a new one from ebay or another site they have them in pretty low price...i hope your battery code this time will be under -29
Sent from my E15i using xda premium
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neither the guy in the link you have put in your post.
as i said before we are not everybody here americans!!!!!
i have already told you:
stamatis16 said:
i know, yes that what i mean , sorry for my bad english...
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when i go to SE and tell them i try to unlock BL how much it will cost me?
mario1024 said:
when i go to SE and tell them i try to unlock BL how much it will cost me?
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Why! Why would you say you unlocked your bootloader?
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Its like killing someone and going into the Police Station and asking where you can hide from the Police.
*facepalm*
Sent from my ARCHOS 101G9 using XDA Premium HD app
I was just wondering how much it would cost
If I take it in for repair and lie are they going to realize what I did?(try to unlock BL)
mario1024 said:
when i go to SE and tell them i try to unlock BL how much it will cost me?
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your gong to tell them you tryied to unlock your bootloader! *sob sob* ಥ_ಥ what have i told you? *sniff sniff* dont tell them that, tell them you were playing a game when it suddenly went black and never came back on
mario1024 said:
I was just wondering how much it would cost
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uhhhh, i dunno ¯\(°_o)/¯
yes but won't they find out that i try to unlock BL?
mario1024 said:
yes but won't they find out that i try to unlock BL?
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Its a brick man, will they ever find out?
Many people have done this, bricked their x8's and told SE that the phone suddenly went BOOM etc

Can somebody help me unlock the bootloader.

Hello everyone i want a little help in unlocking the bootloader.Firstly many of the files needed are down due to multiupload being offline.Second my battery has a 11W25 does that mean i can unlock my bootloader.I think yes.Next can somebody tell me the exact steps i need to take to unlock it.And if you can post here the files too
Thanks for your help.
read this carefully
everything you have ask is answering by the above thread
all the links work too.
orestisssss said:
Second my battery has a 11W25
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*headdesk*
Lol...dude,not the battery please..
Sent from my XPERIA X8 using xda premium
*sighing* Im gonna say this as calm as i can....NOT THE GOD DAMN BATTERY ARRGGGGHHHH!!!!!
asked and answered own question....
orestisssss said:
Second my battery has a 11W25 does that mean i can unlock my bootloader.
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*wheezing in pain* no, no, no *coughing* goodbye and good luck *cough cough*

Sugesstion to prevent NOOBS brick their phone

Lately,i see many of noobs install a rom in dev sec b4 read what its requirement & end up with bricking.
My suggest, a filter in download link which is direct to some form to tick correctly a requirement for specific roms.(similar with membership form).This form can be determined by dev of the roms & real download link will be open if they tick a right answer.for exp;
Phone model-x8/w8 tick/untick
Root tick/untick
Recovery System
Xrecovery tick/untick
CWM tick/untick
Baseband
xx06 tick/untick
xx15 tick/untick
Unlocked bootloader
Yes tick/untick
No tick/untick
Kernel
Stock tick/untick
Costum(can edit by dev)tick/untick
I know this will be annoying for some of us but prevent is better than cure
Hope colossus will see this & consider it.
zmuhammx said:
Lately,i see many of noobs install a rom in dev sec b4 read what its requirement & end up with bricking.
My suggest, a filter in download link which is direct to some form to tick correctly a requirement for specific roms.(similar with membership form).This form can be determined by dev of the roms & real download link will be open if they tick a right answer.for exp;
Phone model-x8/w8 tick/untick
Root tick/untick
Recovery System
Xrecovery tick/untick
CWM tick/untick
Baseband
xx06 tick/untick
xx15 tick/untick
Unlocked bootloader
Yes tick/untick
No tick/untick
Kernel
Stock tick/untick
Costum(can edit by dev)tick/untick
I know this will be annoying for some of us but prevent is better than cure
Hope colossus will see this & consider it.
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Not a bad idea
But it will be very difficult to implement it. Practically impossible as I see it.
This can be done on google docs, create a form there... easy to implement...
Sent from my W8 using XDA...
sidkota said:
This can be done on google docs, create a form there... easy to implement...
Sent from my W8 using XDA...
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Bro,
Are u willing to do this & propose it to high level?Its okay with me,for good sake of our beloved xda forum.If its never done before,doesnt mean its cant be done.
zmuhammx said:
Bro,
Are u willing to do this & propose it to high level?Its okay with me,for good sake of our beloved xda forum.If its never done before,doesnt mean its cant be done.
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M having exam on 8th (sunday), so no laptop! Hehe... i can attempt to do so on monday only...
Sent from my W8 using XDA...
Almost brick My phone HAHA!
Neonato said:
Almost brick My phone HAHA!
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I deliberately bricked
Got bootloader unlockable fone in replacement
Sent from my W8 using XDA...
I mean hard brick!!
sidkota said:
M having exam on 8th (sunday), so no laptop! Hehe... i can attempt to do so on monday only...
Sent from my W8 using XDA...
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Thanks Bro & good luck with ur exam.
zmuhammx said:
Thanks Bro & good luck with ur exam.
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Thanx mate...
Will do the needful on monday...
Sent from my W8 using XDA...
Neonato said:
Almost brick My phone HAHA!
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me too..what to say, every1 of us is a Noobs once
loool I used to bricking a phone is the end of the world but it never happened to me.
Press thanks if I helped, press thanks even if I did not help!
zmuhammx said:
me too..what to say, every1 of us is a Noobs once
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Yayaya! Haha.
But unfortunately,I've bricked [Softbrick] my phone once! LOLOL! XD
And I thought I was completely ruined my phone! XD
And guess what,I unlock my bootloader without knowing about my phone date!
Thank God, my phone is possible to unlock the bootloader [11W22]
And i loughed to my self.
Shimizux said:
Yayaya! Haha.
But unfortunately,I've bricked [Softbrick] my phone once! LOLOL! XD
And I thought I was completely ruined my phone! XD
And guess what,I unlock my bootloader without knowing about my phone date!
Thank God, my phone is possible to unlock the bootloader [11W22]
And i loughed to my self.
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haha i successful unlock my bootloader then flash the naA ics kernel and install the MiniCm9 3.0.0 .. then suddenly dunno what im thinking, i relock the bootloader using S1tool while running on custom kernel.. and tadaaa my phone brick..dunno hard brick or soft brick.. just cant boot up just can enter flash mode.. so please help me friend
sharmix0x0 said:
haha i successful unlock my bootloader then flash the naA ics kernel and install the MiniCm9 3.0.0 .. then suddenly dunno what im thinking, i relock the bootloader using S1tool while running on custom kernel.. and tadaaa my phone brick..dunno hard brick or soft brick.. just cant boot up just can enter flash mode.. so please help me friend
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Looks like Just SoftBrick dude [hardbrick means when your phone cannot be powered on]
You Relock Bootloader? Unlock it again
Flash ICS nAa Kernel, Flash MiniCM9 as simple is that
Or Using Pcc/SEUS, Flash All again to Stock Rom/Kernel.
Then, Using s1tool, check wheter you phone Already Unlock bootloader or Not.
If Not, Unlock Bootloader First,
If Yes, Flash kernel, Then Rom
Dont Forget to FULL WIPE
Just My opinion
Shimizux said:
Looks like Just SoftBrick dude [hardbrick means when your phone cannot be powered on]
You Relock Bootloader? Unlock it again
Flash ICS nAa Kernel, Flash MiniCM9 as simple is that
Or Using Pcc/SEUS, Flash All again to Stock Rom/Kernel.
Then, Using s1tool, check wheter you phone Already Unlock bootloader or Not.
If Not, Unlock Bootloader First,
If Yes, Flash kernel, Then Rom
Dont Forget to FULL WIPE
Just My opinion
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now trying to reflash back to stock rom.. already flash to custom kernel .. so glad when see the sony ericsson boot logo.. thanks a lot my fren.. later i ask najib tu give u some bonus okay just kidding eh btw can unlock bootloader without turning phone on? how?
sharmix0x0 said:
now trying to reflash back to stock rom.. already flash to custom kernel .. so glad when see the sony ericsson boot logo.. thanks a lot my fren.. later i ask najib tu give u some bonus okay just kidding eh btw can unlock bootloader without turning phone on? how?
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Dude, You Flash Stock Rom Using Costum Kernel??
Dato Najib ? Lmaooo ~
eh btw can unlock bootloader without turning phone on? how?
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Why do you want to do that?
Shimizux said:
Yayaya! Haha.
But unfortunately,I've bricked [Softbrick] my phone once! LOLOL! XD
And I thought I was completely ruined my phone! XD
And guess what,I unlock my bootloader without knowing about my phone date!
Thank God, my phone is possible to unlock the bootloader [11W22]
And i loughed to my self.
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Totally understand if some1 brick theirs in the way to unlocked bootloder etc but try to run nAa MiniCM on stock?Thats totaly 100% bricks leading
zmuhammx said:
but try to run nAa MiniCM on stock?Thats totaly 100% bricks leading
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Its remind Me that, I made a ​​stupid thing, I ever did before
LOLOL! XD
Do you really require a certain baseband version? (will vesion 1.0 not work?)
And
What does a bootloader do?

[Q] [Question] Bootloader ROM Unlocked?

I installed XPerience and in Requirements it says i need to have BootloaderUnlocked...
I once tried to unlock my bootloader and my phone was hard brick...
The guys that fixed my phone said that the motherboard is dead and they changed it...
Now i wonder do i have bootloader unlocked or not and how can i see if it is?
Overlload said:
I installed XPerience and in Requirements it says i need to have BootloaderUnlocked...
I once tried to unlock my bootloader and my phone was hard brick...
The guys that fixed my phone said that the motherboard is dead and they changed it...
Now i wonder do i have bootloader unlocked or not and how can i see if it is?
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you said you change your motherboard. If so your bootloader is locked.
Sent from my E15i using xda app-developers app
Overlload said:
I installed XPerience and in Requirements it says i need to have BootloaderUnlocked...
I once tried to unlock my bootloader and my phone was hard brick...
The guys that fixed my phone said that the motherboard is dead and they changed it...
Now i wonder do i have bootloader unlocked or not and how can i see if it is?
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As long as your manufacture date is not 11W29+ u will be okay doing unlock BL
BlackRabbit1703 said:
As long as your manufacture date is not 11W29+ u will be okay doing unlock BL
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Yeah... About that...I'm not sure what is the date cuz they changed my battery too...
P.S.
No google play app and when i download it it force closes when i login...
Overlload said:
Yeah... About that...I'm not sure what is the date cuz they changed my battery too...
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want to know the new manufacturer date,, check this out..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700465
If your lucky, that old motherboard was replaced in your X8 when repaired (if date<=11W29)
then go UB
syahazu said:
want to know the new manufacturer date,, check this out..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700465
If your lucky, that old motherboard was replaced in your X8 when repaired (if date<=11W29)
then go UB
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Thanks!
:good:
Overlload said:
Thanks!
:good:
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well, ".if u got Around Q2 2011 & Below of that date then ur date code is below 11W29 & safe to unlocked bootloader"
i don't believe on this statement..
if u're a very faithful person, unlock the bootloader(check with S1tool FIRST !! )

Not Recognized Simlock Certificate Help

Hello I have this message after using s1tool, is there any other way of unlocking bootloader? how much does it cost to buy credits? Really bored of just using stock kernal, wanna try other kernals and non-stock roms...
Gregorio99 said:
Hello I have this message after using s1tool, is there any other way of unlocking bootloader? how much does it cost to buy credits? Really bored of just using stock kernal, wanna try other kernals and non-stock roms...
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What is the manufacturing date of your X8?
TheScriptKitty said:
What is the manufacturing date of your X8?
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10W40
But I also heard that August on how to make
Unlock Not Recognized Certificate cracking the boot then we can not have coverage or simi card will not read the phone.
Gregorio99 said:
10W40
But I also heard that August on how to make
Unlock Not Recognized Certificate cracking the boot then we can not have coverage or simi card will not read the phone.
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Use FlashTool and this tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043491
[quote name="Gregorio99" post=51006212] Use FlashTool and this tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043491
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Not Really an in-depth tutorial. Op would be better off reading Spyder's thread (links are outdated but tackles the not recogized simlock issue). Op can unlock the bl. The issue is the possibility of losing signal when he does. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17378137
hi
Gregorio99 said:
Hello I have this message after using s1tool, is there any other way of unlocking bootloader? how much does it cost to buy credits? Really bored of just using stock kernal, wanna try other kernals and non-stock roms...
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hi i can unlock it contact me on gtalk [email protected]
kks111 said:
hi i can unlock it contact me on gtalk [email protected]
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As described in many forums Tables of S1 tool check if the phone can unlock or not you're Englishman because I'm Pole and I write a little bit of google translat.mail sent
....
kks111 waited for you yesterday as you told me but the zero response from you I know that it is time difference and a big but you promised you'd help me write something on google hangouts'll be waiting to hear from you have enabled communicator
Welcome back!
I have a problem or you would not be able to unlock Bootlader again because something went wrong, as I wrote you checked the S1 tool and should be small letter ra is not as big R is large or Bootlader not properly złamany.Teraz I can only remain servicing 4SEtool and nothing more as he could, another program I would not bother your head and no one android forum does not have 4SEtool so I would ask you for help again with this unlocking the BL and I would be grateful to know also that you have your job with the site but I would ask with the answer that any
.....
hi
Gregorio99 said:
I do not recommend using the services of kks111
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ya correct not recommended for people looking for free solutions.... i purchased 4setool .... i cannot do service for free...

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