I have been posting in the optimus forum for help. I just noticed last night in a topic yesterday that LG Thrill and LG Optimus 3D are the same, except Thrill is 4G.
My phone is called LG Optimus 3D p925g, it's from rogers and I got it October 2011. It's 4G.
is mine the same as Thrill?
What happens if I use LG Optimus 3D 3G roms on a 4G?
Nothing happens. It's the same.
ok Thrill must be an american brand name or something.
when I flashed cyanogen mod ROM I remember seeing my 4G turn into 3G icon. Does it actually change to 3G or no?
also is this forum more active for help? I wonder why they have 2 forums if 4G/3G is only difference.
It's not even real 4G though. So it's all good.
The other difference is that the basebands are different.
One is international, the other is not.
The Dark Lestat said:
It's not even real 4G though. So it's all good.
The other difference is that the basebands are different.
One is international, the other is not.
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not real 4G? What are you talking about.
I don't know what basebands are so okay.
Well if it says 4G, you're getting almost the same speed as 4G. There's a detailed explanation somewhere. I gotta find it.
Its 3.5g the way i have it my p925g. Always says 4g i dont know why even if i dont havr 4g speeds
4G implies 4th generation technology and standards. Ignoring the fact our '4G' is actually HSDPA+ (which is pretty much what 3G was supposed to be, but they did the same marketing BS with 3G)... we are nowhere close to the simple basic, no BS 4G standards of 100MBPS+ data speeds, with true multi-tower connections.
As well, all 4G means for most GSM carriers is that the phone has the HSPDA+ protocol enabled, and the towers in that region have the same... which is a simple software upgrade. You could be on a 500Kb connection, but they call it 4G simply because it has HSPDA+ protocol delivering those 2G speeds with a 3G technology.
The closest thing to true 4G on the market is LTE, which is totally new radio technology and tower technology, not simply a software upgrade that increases speedo's top speed from 5Mbps to 45Mbps, even though the motor is still only capable of 2Mbps.
The motor, btw, is the tower backhaul, and that is the real bottleneck in all of this and is what will determine your actual speeds. As it stands, there isn't enough hard line bandwidth out there to give true 4G speeds, and likely will be 5+ years before there is.
By then we will be on "6G" and some will still be running sub 1Mbps connections despite the hype.
ya we got lte phones hear now system isnt even up but rogers is claming its going to be 150mbps downloads
The Only difference
Thrill 4G Networks GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
Optimus 3D networks GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100
maybe it is
HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
OR
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100
because 1700 / 2100 mean AWS and i don't think this phone (p925g) is aws
don't know what to do.
Hi,
someone offer me a Lg p925G from rogers which is unlocked. the problem: I live in france, when I put a french sim in the phone didn't find no network at all even a simple GSM; I tried to register manually to my network (the phone find it) but say that 's impossible to connect it. The phone is under the last V20C rom from rogers.
My question is simple: is that a hardware problem with the frequencies? or just a problem from the rom?
thanks a lot!
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Should I buy a captivate or a i9000 galaxy s?
It is for the use in the netherlands but I heard the captivate had some more specs..
Thanks in advance!
Galaxy S and captivate are pretty similar.
i9000 has front camera (if you use it), physical back button, better support (more users) and you are more likely to have warranty support in the Netherlands.
i897 IMHO looks better and is heavier (feels more expensive). Also it comes in 16gb (i9000 comes in 8gb/16gb) and has lots of AT&T crapware on it....easy enough to remove...but you have to do it
Take the one you like the looks of better.
I really like the looks of the captivate but I am worried that it's going to have 3g network problems here..
If I would import the phone, would it work perfect with the signal here to?
snaai8 said:
I really like the looks of the captivate but I am worried that it's going to have 3g network problems here..
If I would import the phone, would it work perfect with the signal here to?
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The issue will be the 900 band will be missing in the Captivate which is where a lot of carriers have 3G in Europe. In the US, it will work fine. i9000x 3G won't work in 850Mhz markets.
Captivate runs on the following data bands:
3G (850/1900/2100 MHz) <-AT&T works fine.
Galaxy i9000x runs on:
2G - GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G - HSDPA 900/1900/2100 <- Missing 850 for AT&T
Vibrant
3G - HSDPA 1700/2100
If you seriously want a world phone for data, there is only one in the market at the moment that I'm aware of. It's the Sony Xperia X10a. It's a dual mode phone and uses GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 and UMTS/HSPA 800/850/1900/2100.
I'm a complete dummy in this subject so here comes the stupid questions..
What would happen if I tried using it in my country?
I'm using a omnia 2 now with:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
So if I tried using the captivate, would my 3g be gone?
EDIT:
I was looking through the specs at the AT&T site and it said:
GSM/GPRS 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS/HSDPA (850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
So according to these specs it says that it also has a 900mhz frequention.
EDIT2: Vodafone in my area (my carrier) uses 2100 as 3g band and gsm 900/1800.
I foung this info using gsmworld
can someone please explain it to me?
Ik need to choose before friday!
First, I'm a flashing newbie, and still have the stock ROM and Radio flashed on my Touch Pro 2.
TMOBILE has now updated(via some secret behind the scenes update) their Touch Pro 2 owners to "4G" coverage in the Detroit metro area. I would like flash to some of the ROMS offered but I'm not sure if after doing so will I continue to receive TMOBILE'S 4G coverage. I understand that "radio" flashing is separate from Rom flashing but is anyone sure that just flashing the ROM would not effect the TMOBILE 4G update.
Any help or insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Does the TP2 hardware even support 4G? That's not something you can just "upgrade". Are you sure that they're not just offering more bandwidth via HDSPA? If that's the case, then what ROM you're using will have no effect on that seeing as nearly all custom ROMs have it on by default.
twos50 said:
First, I'm a flashing newbie, and still have the stock ROM and Radio flashed on my Touch Pro 2.
TMOBILE has now updated(via some secret behind the scenes update) their Touch Pro 2 owners to "4G" coverage in the Detroit metro area. I would like flash to some of the ROMS offered but I'm not sure if after doing so will I continue to receive TMOBILE'S 4G coverage. I understand that "radio" flashing is separate from Rom flashing but is anyone sure that just flashing the ROM would not effect the TMOBILE 4G update.
Any help or insight is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Got a screenshot of your TP2 showing 4G?
from my understanding, only the touch pro 2 from europe and japan have the 4g hardware, usa only 3g hardware, thats why i bought mine from taiwan so when 4g comes out, im well equipped!!!
For AT&T
GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
- Also known as HTC Tilt 2 for AT&T
GENERAL 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 or HSDPA 1700 / 2100
gsmarena.com
T-mobile doesn't have 4G coverage in the US...despite their claims.
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T-mobile doesn't have 4G coverage in the US...despite their claims.
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what they are actually doing is claiming their 3g network as 4g. its hspa. they took a card from verizon that considered their 2g network to be 3g. "you mean, alot of our 3g network is slower than atts 2g? and the only bits that are fast enough to keep up have less coverage than their 3g and is still slower? nonsense! i choose not to believe!"
T-mobile is marketing the same network even when they say 3G or 4G because it's all just upgrades, the appropriate term should be "3.5G". all of their sales reps i've encountered don't know anything about their network or their devices.
a week before the G2 came out, one of the reps tried to tell me that it was sporting a "dual-core processor". i laughed and corrected him without missing a beat. just watch their commercials...it's sad to see someone advertise 4G when it's just "3.5G".
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T-mobile is marketing the same network even when they say 3G or 4G because it's all just upgrades, the appropriate term should be "3.5G". all of their sales reps i've encountered don't know anything about their network or their devices.
a week before the G2 came out, one of the reps tried to tell me that it was sporting a "dual-core processor". i laughed and corrected him without missing a beat. just watch their commercials...it's sad to see someone advertise 4G when it's just "3.5G".
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Actually, it's HSPA+, not HSPA, T-Mobile & Sprint are advertising as 4G, which is faster & only a select few devices support the new HSPA+ speeds. So, it's more like 3.75G. HSPA+ provides HSPA data rates up to 56 Mbit/s down and 22 Mbit/s up. Future revisions of HSPA+ support up to 168 Mbit/s using multiple carriers. Regular HSPA maxes out @ 14 Mbit/s. The TP2 & most of HTC's 3G/HSPA(+) devices only support 7.2 Mbit/s down, 2 Mbit/s up. So, to answer the OP ?, If the network in that area was slower than 7.2 Mbit/s down before the upgrade, you will see an increase, but it'd be maxed out at 7.2 Mbit/s due to device limitations. As this is a Hardware issue, ROM doesn't matter other than the fact the lighter ROM's runs faster & therefore can get higher speeds because of the extra free RAM/Resources. Whereas, heavy, more feature rich ROM will tax the device more & therefore the CPU/RAM/Etc. won't be able to attain max bandwidth. It's like having a 30 Mbit Cable/DSL connection on a Pentium 3 PC. It'd never get the max speed as the system is just too slow to take advantage of it.
So basically, their advertising maybe false, it is used to explain a faster network & used to simplify which devices support this new speed. Most consumers wouldn't understand all this. So instead of dealing with, "why doesn't my 3G phone get full speed? *cry*" from customers not understanding their device has a limited bandwidth. Think of it like the days of dial-up modems. ISP A has a 56K network, but User B has a 28K Modem, so User B only gets 28K speeds.
"A 4G system is expected to provide a comprehensive and secure all-IP based solution where facilities such as ultra-broadband (giga-bit speed such as 1000+ Mbit/s) Internet access, IP telephony, gaming services, and streamed multimedia may be provided to users."
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So it goes something like this;
2G -> EDGE (2.5G) -> 3G -> HSPA (3.5G) -> HSPA+ (3.75G?) -> 4G (?)
Also keep in mind it's measured in bits per second, not bytes. There's 8 bits per byte. So 8Mbit/s = 1 MB. Also some service providers cheat by counting it as 10 bits per byte. (b=bit/B=Byte)
EDIT: Interesting side note, according to gsmarena.com, the G2 & MyTouch 4G only supports HSPA 14.4 Mbit/s down & 5.76 Mbit/s up (T-Mobile's network is 21 Mbit/s according to reports) & the Evo 4G only supports Rev. A, up to 3.1 Mbit/s.
I just read the article
http://www.optimus2x.net/index.php?topic=156.0
If this is true goodbye Optimus 2x and what a waste.
I'm not sure but, if it's 4G, wont be it CDMA ?
4G means LTE. When do you think you'll have an working LTE infrastructure? 3G is more than enough.
This phone is rumored to be on TMO USA which means its GSM and I'm in the DFW area so I can take advantage of 4g converage. To me this is a massage waist of a phone if in fact no 4g
4G will not be big for about. 2-3years. How many countries have full cover over land? Not many got it with 3G even. I am lucky that I live in Sweden. Here we were first with "real" 4G but only about 11 major cities got it. But are expanding fast. But many countries does not even got 4G yet.
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I am in SATX and the 4Gish speeds are here to. However, this phone ....
Network Technology: GSM
GSM: EDGE
UMTS: UMTS (WCDMA) HSDPA 10.2
GSM Bands: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS Bands: 900, 2100
To take advantage doesn't it need to be at least HSDPA+ to really use the 4Gish network?
Won't the very best if your luck be maybe 10mb down on the lg?
Don't get me wrong I am torn because the rest of the specs are so nice.
Acoording to phonefight.net this phone will be 4g compatible when it comes stateside.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WirINvz8GP8
Gsmarena shows that there are two versions of P990(not P999 G2X), one with HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100 and the other with HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100. I have a P990, but the box is missing. I wanted to use the phone on WIND(AWS only) and so wanted to know whether there is anyway of knowing whether the phone supports 1700(AWS) frequency from the phone itself(maybe some dialer code). I know I can do it on my Vibrant by going into the service mode.
There is only one P990, but there is a P990h that supports 850/1900/2100
The only AWS one is the G2X/Wind O2X.
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There is only one P990, but there is a P990h that supports 850/1900/2100
The only AWS one is the G2X/Wind O2X.
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I thought the same initially, but was a bit confused after I saw gsmarena showing the phone supporting 1700 3G band.....does anyone have a P990 with AWS frequncy support..
I read this thread while Googling and made an account to ask a question because now I am really confused.
So if I buy the P990 from Asia, will it work on Wind/Mobilicity? GSMArena says it has the 900/1700/2100 bands (LG site says P990 supports Edge 900/1700/2100, but what is EDGE?) but this thread says that only the G2X/Wind O2x P999 supports AWS? Is there a difference?
I reckon the 900/1700/2100 bit on GSM Arena is a balls up, although it's not their fault. LG UK's website actually states that they are the WCDMA frequencies for it, but on the box is 900/1900/2100.
EDGE is the 2G frequencies, which are 850/900/1800/1900 on the box.
Thanks, did more digging and the info I found is 100% in agreement with you.
So pretty much only the T-Mobile and Wind version of G2x/O2x support AWS will work on Wind and Mobilicity.
I Wanted to know if lg optimus 2 x will work on at&t 3g and t mobile 3g .....someone selling 1 for 225 is that a good price?
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I know it might be late, but from GSMArena:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
as I posted in another thread...I was only able to get 2G(Edge) on my o2x when I used the phone on T-MOBILE in the US
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as I posted in another thread...I was only able to get 2G(Edge) on my o2x when I used the phone on T-MOBILE in the US
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Well, it depends on the type of o2x you have.
I have an SU660, which unlike what's written in the GSM Arena, does not have 1700 band. So, I learned the hard way and found out a little too late (which I also noted about this in another post) that mine cannot use 3G on T-mobile USA.
OP's O2X is P990, which should work on AT&T. See here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/37457-p999-vs-p990/
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Well, it depends on the type of o2x you have.
I have an SU660, which unlike what's written in the GSM Arena, does not have 1700 band. So, I learned the hard way and found out a little too late (which I also noted about this in another post) that mine cannot use 3G on T-mobile USA.
OP's O2X is P990, which should work on AT&T. See here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/37457-p999-vs-p990/
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Of course that's why I said 'on tmobile' in my post
And yeah it should work on AT&T