Gsmarena shows that there are two versions of P990(not P999 G2X), one with HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100 and the other with HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100. I have a P990, but the box is missing. I wanted to use the phone on WIND(AWS only) and so wanted to know whether there is anyway of knowing whether the phone supports 1700(AWS) frequency from the phone itself(maybe some dialer code). I know I can do it on my Vibrant by going into the service mode.
There is only one P990, but there is a P990h that supports 850/1900/2100
The only AWS one is the G2X/Wind O2X.
Rusty! said:
There is only one P990, but there is a P990h that supports 850/1900/2100
The only AWS one is the G2X/Wind O2X.
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I thought the same initially, but was a bit confused after I saw gsmarena showing the phone supporting 1700 3G band.....does anyone have a P990 with AWS frequncy support..
I read this thread while Googling and made an account to ask a question because now I am really confused.
So if I buy the P990 from Asia, will it work on Wind/Mobilicity? GSMArena says it has the 900/1700/2100 bands (LG site says P990 supports Edge 900/1700/2100, but what is EDGE?) but this thread says that only the G2X/Wind O2x P999 supports AWS? Is there a difference?
I reckon the 900/1700/2100 bit on GSM Arena is a balls up, although it's not their fault. LG UK's website actually states that they are the WCDMA frequencies for it, but on the box is 900/1900/2100.
EDGE is the 2G frequencies, which are 850/900/1800/1900 on the box.
Thanks, did more digging and the info I found is 100% in agreement with you.
So pretty much only the T-Mobile and Wind version of G2x/O2x support AWS will work on Wind and Mobilicity.
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Hi,
I'm really in the dark about these things, but I'm about to purchase an unlocked diamond.
Will it support the ATT 3g band?
believe it support att as the iphone works in the rest of the world too with 3g
so att must be using the same bands as the rest of the world
If you purchased a European version then no, you wont get ATT 3g.
If you purchased a US version then yes, it does. Make sure to check the spec sheet when you buy and see if the band 850mhz/1900mhz is listed under 3G.
Yes, 850 and 1900 mhz are supported.
That is the answer I was looking for.
Is there a definitive way to tell if the phone is a US version or a European version based on the IMEI or anything on that info sticker in the battery compartment>?
Why not get a Sprint Diamond?
My university subsidizes the ATT plans...
The least expensive as I found, with "USA Version" clearly marked:
http://www.smggsm.com/htc-p3700-touch-usa-3g-diamond-unlocked-tri-band-phone.html
tzour said:
The least expensive as I found, with "USA Version" clearly marked:
http://www.smggsm.com/htc-p3700-touch-usa-3g-diamond-unlocked-tri-band-phone.html
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This Webpage is Wrong! This link shows a P3700 & states that it operates on UMTS 850 & 1900. PDADB.net states that the P3700 {AKA DIAM100} operates @ UMTS 900 & 2100. The US version is the DIAM110 & operates on the 850 & 1900 UMTS bands. check the comparisons:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1311&view=1&c=htc_touch_diamond_p3700_htc_diamond_100
I have been posting in the optimus forum for help. I just noticed last night in a topic yesterday that LG Thrill and LG Optimus 3D are the same, except Thrill is 4G.
My phone is called LG Optimus 3D p925g, it's from rogers and I got it October 2011. It's 4G.
is mine the same as Thrill?
What happens if I use LG Optimus 3D 3G roms on a 4G?
Nothing happens. It's the same.
ok Thrill must be an american brand name or something.
when I flashed cyanogen mod ROM I remember seeing my 4G turn into 3G icon. Does it actually change to 3G or no?
also is this forum more active for help? I wonder why they have 2 forums if 4G/3G is only difference.
It's not even real 4G though. So it's all good.
The other difference is that the basebands are different.
One is international, the other is not.
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It's not even real 4G though. So it's all good.
The other difference is that the basebands are different.
One is international, the other is not.
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not real 4G? What are you talking about.
I don't know what basebands are so okay.
Well if it says 4G, you're getting almost the same speed as 4G. There's a detailed explanation somewhere. I gotta find it.
Its 3.5g the way i have it my p925g. Always says 4g i dont know why even if i dont havr 4g speeds
4G implies 4th generation technology and standards. Ignoring the fact our '4G' is actually HSDPA+ (which is pretty much what 3G was supposed to be, but they did the same marketing BS with 3G)... we are nowhere close to the simple basic, no BS 4G standards of 100MBPS+ data speeds, with true multi-tower connections.
As well, all 4G means for most GSM carriers is that the phone has the HSPDA+ protocol enabled, and the towers in that region have the same... which is a simple software upgrade. You could be on a 500Kb connection, but they call it 4G simply because it has HSPDA+ protocol delivering those 2G speeds with a 3G technology.
The closest thing to true 4G on the market is LTE, which is totally new radio technology and tower technology, not simply a software upgrade that increases speedo's top speed from 5Mbps to 45Mbps, even though the motor is still only capable of 2Mbps.
The motor, btw, is the tower backhaul, and that is the real bottleneck in all of this and is what will determine your actual speeds. As it stands, there isn't enough hard line bandwidth out there to give true 4G speeds, and likely will be 5+ years before there is.
By then we will be on "6G" and some will still be running sub 1Mbps connections despite the hype.
ya we got lte phones hear now system isnt even up but rogers is claming its going to be 150mbps downloads
The Only difference
Thrill 4G Networks GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
Optimus 3D networks GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100
maybe it is
HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
OR
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100
because 1700 / 2100 mean AWS and i don't think this phone (p925g) is aws
don't know what to do.
Hi,
someone offer me a Lg p925G from rogers which is unlocked. the problem: I live in france, when I put a french sim in the phone didn't find no network at all even a simple GSM; I tried to register manually to my network (the phone find it) but say that 's impossible to connect it. The phone is under the last V20C rom from rogers.
My question is simple: is that a hardware problem with the frequencies? or just a problem from the rom?
thanks a lot!
What's the difference? I am guessing the regions they are sold in, but are there also hardware/radio differences?
There are no differences.
FDN
Not sure where they sale p970 I think it's europe, the p970h is for latin america and gets 3G in 850/1900/2100 mhz while p970 gets 3G in 900/1700/2100 mhz
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Not sure where they sale p970 I think it's europe, the p970h is for latin america and gets 3G in 850/1900/2100 mhz while p970 gets 3G in 900/1700/2100 mhz
Enviado desde mi LG Optimus Black via Tapatalk!
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The P970 is a quadband phone, this means it´s support the gsm frequencies Quadband (850/900/1800/1900MHz). I think the "h" version support it too.
Regards!
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The P970 is a quadband phone, this means it´s support the gsm frequencies Quadband (850/900/1800/1900MHz). I think the "h" version support it too.
Regards!
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the QuadBand (850/900/1800/1900MHz) is for the GSM 2G communications, and the HSDPA (also known as 3G) works on 900/1700/2100 for p970 and 850/1900/2100 for p970h that's why you can't import an european phone to latin america but will not be able to use 3G, 'cause most operators use 850/1900 bands, wich european phones don't use, that's the difference, but don't trust me, look it up!
Also that's why roms usually developed for europe causes so many crashes in Latin America while having 3G enabled
UMTS Europe use bands 2100/900MHz. Ther are a lot of mexicans using Zeus Rom (by Huexxx) based on V20N Europe Open and V20o Spanish, and nobody have reports problems with the radio in Mexico. See http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=321012.
Also some from Argentina, without problems. May be the phone is also quadband in UMTS.
Regards
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UMTS Europe use bands 2100/900MHz. Ther are a lot of mexicans using Zeus Rom (by Huexxx) based on V20N Europe Open and V20o Spanish, and nobody have reports problems with the radio in Mexico. See http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=321012.
Also some from Argentina, without problems. May be the phone is also quadband in UMTS.
Regards
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I have asked around and most of them having no data plan, experience no problems, some restrict to 2G due to battery managment so this also hide problems, only few people have notice this bug and it's not exclusive to OB I've experience it on Galaxy Ace and others, and also I can tell you that the two main carriers in Mexico use 3G in 850/1900, I have lived this issues, and I have check the specs sheets for P970 and P970h, I'm not making stuff up, I'm just trying to help other Latin American users who have no idea why their devices behaves like that ( constant FC screen flashes, battery drain for no reason, etc)
And for 3G it's not QuadBand, I'll let you the official mexican spec's sheet where you can see in System / WCDMA (also known as 3G) that it only has 850/1900/2100 Mhz
http://www.lg.com/mx/celulares/mostrar-todos/LG-P970.jsp
And the spec's for UK shows the "same phone" but with 3G in 900/1700/2100
http://www.lg.com/uk/mobile-phones/lg-P970-optimus-black
that's the difference
Thank you for the info! Your are the first from which I hear that, but you give also reasons why this can be the case. Of course, your info can help the few people who experiment this kind of problems.
Here some Data:
- From the German LG-site P970: Quadband (850/900/1800/1900MHz) + UMTS (2100/900MHz) + HSPA 7.2/5.7
-From the British LG-site P970: 850/900/1800/1900 – Edge 900/1700/2100 – HSPA 7.2/5.76
There seems to be a bandwidth chaos in LG´s information.
From http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_black_p970-3704.php:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100 HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
That sounds about right (or reads hehe) since all the sources you're quoting have info for P970 version, as I told you the QuadBand is present in both versions but it works for 2G, all those have 3G in 900/1700/2100, (except gsmarema, but it's not official source, so it could be wrong) but check the P970h where the bands are 850/1900/2100
Neither GSMarena nor LG offer reliable information. It seem that the p970h doesn’t support 900MHz in HSPA and the p970 without “h” doesn’t use the 850MHz HSPA band. But it only seem due LG´s information doesn’t be trustworthy or complete.
I think the baseband capabilities are only determinable by measuring. Maybe some in the web have done this
I don't know why, but I've read this a lot, European people find it hard to believe that LG (or any other mobile brand for that matter) could make two or more differents versions from one phone to replace only the modems, but believe me, they do, you can find it on most phones, like when I had the Galaxy Ace, the model is S5830, but for LatAm is S5830L, and the difference is again the 850 band, and so goes on with several others
Its not a matter of believe or from coming of a specific region in the world, it’s a matter of facts. And the LG’s homepages aren’t a reliable source.
I believe your explications and your experience, but to isolate the source of problems is need of facts. There is still no probe, that the p970 doesn’t support the 850MHz and the p970h the 900MHz band. Its a hardware thing or rom related?
It's a matter of hardware no doubt!
Brasilian specs like mx but named P970 (without "h") http://www.lge.com/br/celular/aparelhos/LG-smartphone-P970.jsp and manual of brasilian vivo provider. This issue gets even stranger.
Regards
So funny 'cause in Mexico's page it also name it with out the "h" the h it's only found in the phone it self, and I know for a fact that brazilian is p970h
Your are right, the brasilian technical name is p970h.
Now does this make a difference to what rom. Dwnload?? Since i have a p970h. Also i have 2.2.2 what is the highest official upgrade and what is the best way to get the highst. Upgrade whilst letting the phone still be useable on a daily basis????
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I also have a P970h (in Brazil) and I use any firmware version of P970 or P970h and I didn't perceive any problem with the phone. The 3G / HSDPA is working, but I'm not sure if in every band because here in São Paulo my carrier provides 3G in more than one frequency. Btw I'm currently using the v20S Spanish version.
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avi613 said:
Now does this make a difference to what rom. Dwnload?? Since i have a p970h. Also i have 2.2.2 what is the highest official upgrade and what is the best way to get the highst. Upgrade whilst letting the phone still be useable on a daily basis????
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Actually there's a V20C Brazilian version, I guess this is the latest version available for this country, and it's gingerbread without carrier modifications :thumbup:
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I Wanted to know if lg optimus 2 x will work on at&t 3g and t mobile 3g .....someone selling 1 for 225 is that a good price?
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I know it might be late, but from GSMArena:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
as I posted in another thread...I was only able to get 2G(Edge) on my o2x when I used the phone on T-MOBILE in the US
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as I posted in another thread...I was only able to get 2G(Edge) on my o2x when I used the phone on T-MOBILE in the US
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Well, it depends on the type of o2x you have.
I have an SU660, which unlike what's written in the GSM Arena, does not have 1700 band. So, I learned the hard way and found out a little too late (which I also noted about this in another post) that mine cannot use 3G on T-mobile USA.
OP's O2X is P990, which should work on AT&T. See here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/37457-p999-vs-p990/
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Well, it depends on the type of o2x you have.
I have an SU660, which unlike what's written in the GSM Arena, does not have 1700 band. So, I learned the hard way and found out a little too late (which I also noted about this in another post) that mine cannot use 3G on T-mobile USA.
OP's O2X is P990, which should work on AT&T. See here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/37457-p999-vs-p990/
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Of course that's why I said 'on tmobile' in my post
And yeah it should work on AT&T
Hi,
In gsmarena it's written that it does support 3G 850MHz, but in a few stores (clove, handtec) its written that it doesn't support.
Is it have several variants or the information on the stores is wrong?
Thank you
On LG's product site for the phone (LG DE):
Quadband (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) + UMTS (850/900/1900/2100 MHz) + HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
In LG UK it has HSPA+ 21 900/1900/2100
So maybe there are two variants.
Strange.
The hardware must be the same, I'm in the UK but bought mine in from Germany as it hasn't been available.
Works out cheaper anyway.
I'm not sure but i don't think 850 MHz is used in the UK or Europe, it might be a US frequency. On the UK LG website it says it's got 850 and 900 so it should work in the US and Europe. Unless there's 2 different versions of the phone it should be fine, obviously have the correct Sim card for the country your in otherwise you could get some hefty charges.