Hi,
In gsmarena it's written that it does support 3G 850MHz, but in a few stores (clove, handtec) its written that it doesn't support.
Is it have several variants or the information on the stores is wrong?
Thank you
On LG's product site for the phone (LG DE):
Quadband (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) + UMTS (850/900/1900/2100 MHz) + HSPA+ 21Mbit/s
In LG UK it has HSPA+ 21 900/1900/2100
So maybe there are two variants.
Strange.
The hardware must be the same, I'm in the UK but bought mine in from Germany as it hasn't been available.
Works out cheaper anyway.
I'm not sure but i don't think 850 MHz is used in the UK or Europe, it might be a US frequency. On the UK LG website it says it's got 850 and 900 so it should work in the US and Europe. Unless there's 2 different versions of the phone it should be fine, obviously have the correct Sim card for the country your in otherwise you could get some hefty charges.
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I am dreaming of getting the one which supports UMTS 850/1900/2100 bands.
Any news?
Nobody know it? So sad...
There is no such thing as a tri-band UMTS Diamond, all are just dual band. 850/1900 for the US Version, 850/2100 for the Australia version, and 900/2100 for the European version.
I thought I read somewhere that there is an Australian version of the Touch Diamond 120 (100 for Europe/Asia, 110 for NAM) that supports dual-band UMTS 850/2100, which should let 3G work on any continent. If someone actually has this model or can confirm, that would be great.
EDIT: Whoops, guess the guy above me posted a little faster Anyone know if an online retailer has the AUS model on sale?
Well it wouldn't work in any place that requires 900, it also wouldn't work on AT&T in certain 1900-only 3G zones. I don't know what market uses what frequency for AT&T, so I really couldn't tell you if your area will work with the 850/2100 Diamond or not.
Edit: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HTC-Touch-Di...yZ161651QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Go to ebay.com.au and search... 650 AUD = 544 USD, for perspective
I'm assuming that's the Australian version... But PM every seller before buying to confirm
in my diam100 with italian official rom I have this:
is it normal?
Yessuh, all Diamonds have it, but it doesn't work. It doesn't reflect the hardware in the device at all, standard to all devices.
So good news for all Diamond euro owners in LA (and other places of course)...the tmobile network supports the 2100mhz band for 3G so no need for a US version!!
http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm23715.htm#7
Sorry if this is old news, but i just realized it =)
this is great if true?
T-Mobile devices use the 1700Mhz/2100Mhz frequency band (for 3G) and I thought Europe 3G devices use 900Mhz/2100Mhz. Could U clarify further...
you said it correct...tmobile does use 1700mhz/2100mhz, and the euro diamond supports 2100mhz which should work since tmobile will be using it...i spoke to a tmobile tier 2 rep, he confirmed it as well...
That can't be right. T-Mobile AWS 3G uses the 1700 MHz band for uplink and 2100 MHz for downlink. I doubt T-Mobile US set up aside any channels in the 2100 MHz band as uplink channels.
It's kind of academic, as I can't get 3G on T-Mobile USA using a Euro Diamond in NYC, where we've had 3G deployed for a few months now. I've never heard of anyone else doing it either. Oddly, there's a "UMTS(1700)" selection in the band settings in the phone control panel, but if I try selecting that, it just jumps back to using T-Mobile's normal PCS band with EDGE for data.
If that tier 2 tech can get you onto AWS 3G with your Diamond, definitely let us all know about it, but don't get your hopes up too high.
Drachen said:
That can't be right. T-Mobile AWS 3G uses the 1700 MHz band for uplink and 2100 MHz for downlink. I doubt T-Mobile US set up aside any channels in the 2100 MHz band as uplink channels.
It's kind of academic, as I can't get 3G on T-Mobile USA using a Euro Diamond in NYC, where we've had 3G deployed for a few months now. I've never heard of anyone else doing it either. Oddly, there's a "UMTS(1700)" selection in the band settings in the phone control panel, but if I try selecting that, it just jumps back to using T-Mobile's normal PCS band with EDGE for data.
If that tier 2 tech can get you onto AWS 3G with your Diamond, definitely let us all know about it, but don't get your hopes up too high.
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AWS?? well the tier 2 tech did say it...i dont know if he was just talking out of his ass or not...but we'll see in the coming weeks...ill try to get tmobile rep on the phone again to ask them how i can get it...or if i can, even though its supported..
Malik05 said:
AWS?? well the tier 2 tech did say it...i dont know if he was just talking out of his ass or not...but we'll see in the coming weeks...ill try to get tmobile rep on the phone again to ask them how i can get it...or if i can, even though its supported..
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As I understand it, if a phone says it supports 2100 it is referring to the UMTS Band 1 used in Europe which is 1920-1980MHz Uplink & 2110-2170Mhz Downlink (see UMTS Frequency Bands - Wikipedia). The 1700AWS Band (UMTS Band 4) uses 1710-1755MHz Uplink and 2110-2155MHz Downlink. So, while they do overlap some they are not identical (A Visual Guide to AWS - PhoneScoop)
So, I don't believe that a phone with 2100 EU support will work with T-Mobile 3G because it doesn't support the 'right' 2100 nor the 1700. Likewise, I don't believe that a phone with 1700 support will work for 2100 EU.
If you want to get technical the "US" Diamond won't work for 3g on T-Mobile either. The 3g band is only for 850/1900. (so i guess we're screwed either way) I'm in Salt Lake City and I don't believe Utah is slated to get 3g until 2009 at this point. I bought the diamond knowing full well that 3g was going to be a slim possibility on this phone. However, a user with a DIAM100 is claming that he's been getting 3g service on T-Mobile in NJ. He said that he'd post screenshots.. I don't know if he's done that or not. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
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If you want to get technical the "US" Diamond won't work for 3g on T-Mobile either. The 3g band is only for 850/1900. (so i guess we're screwed either way) I'm in Salt Lake City and I don't believe Utah is slated to get 3g until 2009 at this point. I bought the diamond knowing full well that 3g was going to be a slim possibility on this phone. However, a user with a DIAM100 is claming that he's been getting 3g service on T-Mobile in NJ. He said that he'd post screenshots.. I don't know if he's done that or not. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
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Do you know who this user is? maybe i can PM him and get some details...i knew i wasn't going to get 3G with the diamond, but after talking to the rep. i kind of want to look into it more since there may be a possibility.
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If you want to get technical the "US" Diamond won't work for 3g on T-Mobile either. The 3g band is only for 850/1900. (so i guess we're screwed either way) I'm in Salt Lake City and I don't believe Utah is slated to get 3g until 2009 at this point. I bought the diamond knowing full well that 3g was going to be a slim possibility on this phone. However, a user with a DIAM100 is claming that he's been getting 3g service on T-Mobile in NJ. He said that he'd post screenshots.. I don't know if he's done that or not. I guess all we can do is wait and see.
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Honestly I'm gonna go ahead and call BS on him for that, I've never heard of anyone getting T-Mobile 3G and I know quite a few people with the Diamond/Raphael on T-Mobile in 3G areas.
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As I understand it, if a phone says it supports 2100 it is referring to the UMTS Band 1 used in Europe which is 1920-1980MHz Uplink & 2110-2170Mhz Downlink (see UMTS Frequency Bands - Wikipedia). The 1700AWS Band (UMTS Band 4) uses 1710-1755MHz Uplink and 2110-2155MHz Downlink. So, while they do overlap some they are not identical (A Visual Guide to AWS - PhoneScoop)
So, I don't believe that a phone with 2100 EU support will work with T-Mobile 3G because it doesn't support the 'right' 2100 nor the 1700. Likewise, I don't believe that a phone with 1700 support will work for 2100 EU.
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I have the USA sold "quad band" euro diamond distributed by htc USA. This is essentially re-flashed euro diamond hardware sold to support american networks, not the 850/1900 newest USA 3G diamond compatable with AT&T. I have looked into this issue and also talked to T-mobile and there seems to be alot of confusion regarding T-mobile's AWS USA 3G network (or maybe they have simply confused me). Here is what I have found out: Assuming they are correct, they are telling me 3G voice for T-mobile usa runs in both the 1700 AND 1900 mhz band, and therefore my euro diamond shoud be supported at 1900mhz for voice 3g support. This 1900mhz is part of the "quad band" voice radio hardware on the euro diamond. Data (AWS 3G for USA) "HSDPA" , which T-mobile has not yet released, runs in the 2100mhz bandwidth, and Data AWS "HSUPA 3g" runs in the 1700mhz bandwidth. Therefore my hardware would not support HSUPA @ 1700mhz, but would support the HSDPA @ 2100mhz. As to the idea that euro bandwidths are different than USA bandwidths, well apparently they are. For example "2100mhz" networks in europe might be actually using 2110mhz-2170mhz, whereas in the USA T-mobile's network may use 2100-2140mhz actual bands. However because these are close and still in the 2100mhz band, there should still be compatability with 2100mhz hardware radios regardless of networks varying the bandwidth slightly.
Of course this may be too optimistic, but it would be very cool if true and I am hoping for the best .
sureloch said:
I have the USA sold "quad band" euro diamond distributed by htc USA. This is essentially re-flashed euro diamond hardware sold to support american networks, not the 850/1900 newest USA 3G diamond compatable with AT&T. I have looked into this issue and also talked to T-mobile and there seems to be alot of confusion regarding T-mobile's AWS USA 3G network (or maybe they have simply confused me). Here is what I have found out: Assuming they are correct, they are telling me 3G voice for T-mobile usa runs in both the 1700 AND 1900 mhz band, and therefore my euro diamond shoud be supported at 1900mhz for voice 3g support. This 1900mhz is part of the "quad band" voice radio hardware on the euro diamond. Data (AWS 3G for USA) "HSDPA" , which T-mobile has not yet released, runs in the 2100mhz bandwidth, and Data AWS "HSUPA 3g" runs in the 1700mhz bandwidth. Therefore my hardware would not support HSUPA @ 1700mhz, but would support the HSDPA @ 2100mhz. As to the idea that euro bandwidths are different than USA bandwidths, well apparently they are. For example "2100mhz" networks in europe might be actually using 2110mhz-2170mhz, whereas in the USA T-mobile's network may use 2100-2140mhz actual bands. However because these are close and still in the 2100mhz band, there should still be compatability with 2100mhz hardware radios regardless of networks varying the bandwidth slightly.
Of course this may be too optimistic, but it would be very cool if true and I am hoping for the best .
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Unfortunately, they've provided you some bad information. Each frequency band/range has a pair of uplink and downlink frequencies - you can't use one without the other - you have to use both. Generally, the uplink and downlink frequencies are relatively close to each other however, the 1700 AWS band has uplink and downlink spread quite a distance apart. Uplink is in the 1700MHz range, downlink is in the 2100MHz range and both have to be used. In the US, 1700 & 2100 is essentially one band.
1900MHz (the PCS band) isn't 3G for T-Mobile (although they technically could put it there at some point.) Right now, 1900MHz for T-Mobile is EDGE voice and data. Most other carriers do have 3G on the 1900MHz band, T-Mobile just doesn't have enough spectrum available in that band.
In short: A phone that supports UMTS 2100 will not work for T-Mobile US 3G. A phone that supports AWS/UMTS 1700 will work for T-Mobile US 3G but not for European 2100 3G. (And 1900MHz PCS will give you traditional EDGE on T-Mobile US.)
Malik05 said:
Do you know who this user is? maybe i can PM him and get some details...i knew i wasn't going to get 3G with the diamond, but after talking to the rep. i kind of want to look into it more since there may be a possibility.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427755
post 3, ll
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2610960#post2610960
Hi,
I'm really in the dark about these things, but I'm about to purchase an unlocked diamond.
Will it support the ATT 3g band?
believe it support att as the iphone works in the rest of the world too with 3g
so att must be using the same bands as the rest of the world
If you purchased a European version then no, you wont get ATT 3g.
If you purchased a US version then yes, it does. Make sure to check the spec sheet when you buy and see if the band 850mhz/1900mhz is listed under 3G.
Yes, 850 and 1900 mhz are supported.
That is the answer I was looking for.
Is there a definitive way to tell if the phone is a US version or a European version based on the IMEI or anything on that info sticker in the battery compartment>?
Why not get a Sprint Diamond?
My university subsidizes the ATT plans...
The least expensive as I found, with "USA Version" clearly marked:
http://www.smggsm.com/htc-p3700-touch-usa-3g-diamond-unlocked-tri-band-phone.html
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The least expensive as I found, with "USA Version" clearly marked:
http://www.smggsm.com/htc-p3700-touch-usa-3g-diamond-unlocked-tri-band-phone.html
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This Webpage is Wrong! This link shows a P3700 & states that it operates on UMTS 850 & 1900. PDADB.net states that the P3700 {AKA DIAM100} operates @ UMTS 900 & 2100. The US version is the DIAM110 & operates on the 850 & 1900 UMTS bands. check the comparisons:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1311&view=1&c=htc_touch_diamond_p3700_htc_diamond_100
Hi guys,
I've had a look around and can't really find much info on bad ESN's. Most of the questions are resolved with a -"find a carrier who will reflash your phone". The phone I'm looking at is from someone who didn't pay their phone bill. If I import this phone over to Australia - what will a bad ESN do? I'm planning to buy a pre paid SIM card over here, and I'd like to put a basic Gingerbread rom on it.
I can see that a bad ESN means you wouldn't be able to use the phone on the network it was sold on, but if you unlock the phone doesn't that mean you can put on whatever carrier you'd like?
Are there any issues with doing this?
The next part of my question is about the Vibrant. From the info I've found this...
Will My SGH-t959 (Vibrant) Phone Work In Other Countries And How Do I Unlock It?
The SGH-t959 is a quad band dual mode handset. It supports GSM frequencies of 850, 900, 1800, & 1900. It supports UMTS 1700, 1900, and 2100 frequencies. There is a possibility the phone may be used with a wireless operator outside the United States however this is not guranteed. The phone has been optimized to work on the intended carrier it was designed for.
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From what wikipedia says on Vodafone (in Oz,)
The GSM mobile service on 900 MHz and 1800 MHz covers 94.52% of the country. The 3G 2100 MHz UMTS network is available in metro areas of major cities and some larger regional centres covering 80% of the population. Expansion of the 3G UMTS network using 900 MHz to equal or surpass the GSM coverage is due to be completed by 31 August 2009 [1] [2].
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Will this work here? It's seems like it should? (I'm in Melbourne) I'd like the 3g to work for the internet etc.
Thanks guys.
Beumpp....
I can't guarantee it but technically according to the site below, it should work:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Vibrant_id4747
UMTS[3G] frequencies: 1700/2100, 2100
Optus, vodafone and three use 2100 and 900
Gsmarena shows that there are two versions of P990(not P999 G2X), one with HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100 and the other with HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100. I have a P990, but the box is missing. I wanted to use the phone on WIND(AWS only) and so wanted to know whether there is anyway of knowing whether the phone supports 1700(AWS) frequency from the phone itself(maybe some dialer code). I know I can do it on my Vibrant by going into the service mode.
There is only one P990, but there is a P990h that supports 850/1900/2100
The only AWS one is the G2X/Wind O2X.
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There is only one P990, but there is a P990h that supports 850/1900/2100
The only AWS one is the G2X/Wind O2X.
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I thought the same initially, but was a bit confused after I saw gsmarena showing the phone supporting 1700 3G band.....does anyone have a P990 with AWS frequncy support..
I read this thread while Googling and made an account to ask a question because now I am really confused.
So if I buy the P990 from Asia, will it work on Wind/Mobilicity? GSMArena says it has the 900/1700/2100 bands (LG site says P990 supports Edge 900/1700/2100, but what is EDGE?) but this thread says that only the G2X/Wind O2x P999 supports AWS? Is there a difference?
I reckon the 900/1700/2100 bit on GSM Arena is a balls up, although it's not their fault. LG UK's website actually states that they are the WCDMA frequencies for it, but on the box is 900/1900/2100.
EDGE is the 2G frequencies, which are 850/900/1800/1900 on the box.
Thanks, did more digging and the info I found is 100% in agreement with you.
So pretty much only the T-Mobile and Wind version of G2x/O2x support AWS will work on Wind and Mobilicity.