Hi,
I know the touchpad isn't an android phone, so is it possible to upgrade from CM7 to CM9 using clockwork recovery, or do I have to use the same method as I used when installing.M7. I don't mind using the original method, but I don't want to loose everything I have on WebOS. Any advice will be very welcome.
Many thanks
Ian
You can, however you have to do a full reset - format /system, /data, and /cache, then do the update. You will lose everything from the Android side, but you don't have to lose all of WebOS to do it.
Hope that helps.
Use titanium backup to backup your stuff, then once you get cm9 installed, restore. I've done it a few times successfully (so far...... :laugh
I know it's not recommended, but I've flashed CM9 and gapps over the top of CM7 and had no problems at all, didn't lose anything.
It is not recommended to flash CM9 over CM7 if you did not use ACMEInstaller2 to install Android on your Touchpad initially. If you did not use ACMEInstaller2 then you will need to install your ICS ROM just like you did when you initially installed your GB ROM, but this time with ACMEInstaller2. Personally I'd rather start fresh and uninstall Android with ACMEUninstaller and then re-install Android with ACMEInstaller2.
You can use the two guides I have links to in my signature on how to root your Touchpad if you need a refresher as well links to download the necessary files.
Before I begin, yes... I did search and look through a few threads with similar titles but did not find my problem.
I am not a phone geek and I am new to all this, but I rooted my Note along with a "Franco kernel", which worked successfully. My phone booted up as it was before (in fact I noticed absolutely no difference in my phone, whatsoever).
The problems begun when I tried to install an "Abyss" kernel via CWM, which apparently installed successfully, but the phone would never get past boot-up (not so successful after all, huh?). I realized that it wasn't going to work, so I though no problem, and went back into CWM and re-installed the Franco kernel that I was using before (which worked). Strangely, this kernel, too, would now no longer boot.
I successfully restored the phone with a GB rom via odin (teriible rom), and proceeded to install the so-called "Hydracore" kernel (love the names) via cwm.... this kernel made things even worse. Once again the installation was supposedly "successful", but the phone doesn't go past boot. This time, it gets stuck on a very dim black screen, which isn't actually black, it is a dark creamy/pink hue that you can only notice in absolute darkness. (WTF?) This screen has random black blotches on it, but again, if you are in a lit up room the screen looks completely black and you cannot tell that it is actually lit. When I say that this kernel made the problems even worse, I say that because when this happens (dim black screen), I cannot even enter CWM recovery at all to try and install a different kernel. From here, I can only access download mode, and have no choice but to restore the phone with the GB rom via odin. I did so, and proceeded to install the latest version of "Hydracore" (v5.4) posted right here on XDA by the member 'chasmodo.' This time, I did the installation of the kernel via odin, which, once again, was supposedly successful... and once again a lie, as the phone just goes into the same black screen, with no option other than download mode.
The sole reason I have wasted hours of my life researching and understanding mobile phone terminology in the past few days is so that I can have jellybean on my Note. It seems that I am unable to do this because the Kernels are not working on my device. I have a very powerful and capable phone, which is currently stuck on this GB rom (which I think has to be the most terrible piece of coding ever made) so any help on this would be immensely appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
can you try go back to stock GB rom.. then upgrade to ICS and root using Dr Ketans method and then install Hydracore
You flashed Hydracore on GB rom? that's the main reason behind your problem, this Kernel is not for GB. Now either flash custom GB kernel or flash stock GB firmware using pc odin and then root it. Check post # 2 in this thread for rooting. (I guess you know how to do this )
Once you have root and cwm recovery, you can flash any custom rom you want.
jeetu1981 said:
You flashed Hydracore on GB rom? that's the main reason behind your problem, this Kernel is not for GB. Now either flash custom GB kernel or flash stock GB firmware using pc odin and then root it. Check post # 2 in this thread for rooting. (I guess you know how to do this )
Once you have root and cwm recovery, you can flash any custom rom you want.
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Hot damn you guys are quick!
Silly me! :silly:
If I install any GB kernal can I then install CM10?
S-pen said:
Before I begin, yes... I did search and look through a few threads with similar titles but did not find my problem.
I am not a phone geek and I am new to all this, but I rooted my Note along with a "Franco kernel", which worked successfully. My phone booted up as it was before (in fact I noticed absolutely no difference in my phone, whatsoever).
The problems begun when I tried to install an "Abyss" kernel via CWM, which apparently installed successfully, but the phone would never get past boot-up (not so successful after all, huh?). I realized that it wasn't going to work, so I though no problem, and went back into CWM and re-installed the Franco kernel that I was using before (which worked). Strangely, this kernel, too, would now no longer boot.
I successfully restored the phone with a GB rom via odin (teriible rom), and proceeded to install the so-called "Hydracore" kernel (love the names) via cwm.... this kernel made things even worse. Once again the installation was supposedly "successful", but the phone doesn't go past boot. This time, it gets stuck on a very dim black screen, which isn't actually black, it is a dark creamy/pink hue that you can only notice in absolute darkness. (WTF?) This screen has random black blotches on it, but again, if you are in a lit up room the screen looks completely black and you cannot tell that it is actually lit. When I say that this kernel made the problems even worse, I say that because when this happens (dim black screen), I cannot even enter CWM recovery at all to try and install a different kernel. From here, I can only access download mode, and have no choice but to restore the phone with the GB rom via odin. I did so, and proceeded to install the latest version of "Hydracore" (v5.4) posted right here on XDA by the member 'chasmodo.' This time, I did the installation of the kernel via odin, which, once again, was supposedly successful... and once again a lie, as the phone just goes into the same black screen, with no option other than download mode.
The sole reason I have wasted hours of my life researching and understanding mobile phone terminology in the past few days is so that I can have jellybean on my Note. It seems that I am unable to do this because the Kernels are not working on my device. I have a very powerful and capable phone, which is currently stuck on this GB rom (which I think has to be the most terrible piece of coding ever made) so any help on this would be immensely appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi there, sorry to hear of your challenges.
One thing to remember before flashing is the nature of safe / unsafe kernels. Equally as important is compatible / non compatible kernels. It's not clear from your post but did you flash Abyss on an ICS ROM? If so, Abyss is a GB kernel. It will install but the ROM wont run due to lack of compatibility.
Abyss is used by many as a Safe kernel, a base to flash a new ROM from . Alternatively, it can be used to "downgrade" to Gingerbread ROMs.
If you are intent on trying a JB ROM, I would suggest a doing a full wipe (use the numerous guides on XDA) and a kernel clean (jBroid Script Cleaner for example). Now, research Chasmodo's excellent Kernel Repository and choose a kernel. Hydracore 4.3 Standard is a good "benchmark" however you could try the Official CM10 kernel from Entropy. Reboot to Recovery and flash your JB ROM of choice.
You will now have "Full Wiped" (including Script Clean), installed a Safe (Compatible) Kernel and flashed a compatible ROM.
For what its worth, I found GB to be an excellent ROM, particularly 2.3.6 and 2.3.7. CheckROM was one of my favorite ROMs on the S2 and they didnt even feel the need (till recently) to make an ICS version.
I hope this helps. Please hit THANKS if it did.
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Hi there, sorry to hear of your challenges.
One thing to remember before flashing is the nature of safe / unsafe kernels. Equally as important is compatible / non compatible kernels. It's not clear from your post but did you flash Abyss on an ICS ROM? If so, Abyss is a GB kernel. It will install but the ROM wont run due to lack of compatibility.
Abyss is used by many as a Safe kernel, a base to flash a new ROM from . Alternatively, it can be used to "downgrade" to Gingerbread ROMs.
If you are intent on trying a JB ROM, I would suggest a doing a full wipe (use the numerous guides on XDA) and a kernel clean (jBroid Script Cleaner for example). Now, research Chasmodo's excellent Kernel Repository and choose a kernel. Hydracore 4.3 Standard is a good "benchmark" however you could try the Official CM10 kernel from Entropy. Reboot to Recovery and flash your JB ROM of choice.
You will now have "Full Wiped" (including Script Clean), installed a Safe (Compatible) Kernel and flashed a compatible ROM.
For what its worth, I found GB to be an excellent ROM, particularly 2.3.6 and 2.3.7. CheckROM was one of my favorite ROMs on the S2 and they didnt even feel the need (till recently) to make an ICS version.
I hope this helps. Please hit THANKS if it did.
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Yes, I forgot to mention that when I rooted it I was running official 4.0.3 which I got OTA. After I rooted I tried the Abyss kernel. I had read that if you try and install CM10 straight from ICS you can brick, and that you had to downgrade to GB to do this. There must have been a misunderstanding on my part as I though that installing Abyss would downgrade me to GB.
What I don't understand is that I have now installed a GB rom, yet the Abyss gb kernel still does not work.
The two members that posted mentioned that I should root, though I did mention in the OP that it is already rooted... Am I missing something?
Anyway, I want to avoid having to download any more big files. I already have the latest "nightly" build of CM10 in my SD card. Is there any GB kernel that I can install from where I am now that would make it safe to install the CM10 zip?
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Yes, I forgot to mention that when I rooted it I was running official 4.0.3 which I got OTA. After I rooted I tried the Abyss kernel. I had read that if you try and install CM10 straight from ICS you can brick, and that you had to downgrade to GB to do this. There must have been a misunderstanding on my part as I though that installing Abyss would downgrade me to GB.
What I don't understand is that I have now installed a GB rom, yet the Abyss gb kernel still does not work.
The two members that posted mentioned that I should root, though I did mention in the OP that it is already rooted... Am I missing something?
Anyway, I want to avoid having to download any more big files. I already have the latest "nightly" build of CM10 in my SD card. Is there any GB kernel that I can install from where I am now that would make it safe to install the CM10 zip?
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If I were on a GB ROM and wanted to run CM10 I would Full Wipe (including Cache and Dalvik) then do the following -
Flash Official CM10 kernel.
Reboot to Recovery (do not go straight to ROM flash)
Once back in Recovery, flash the CM10 ROM.
Reboot device.
Alba Donzo said:
If I were on a GB ROM and wanted to run CM10 I would Full Wipe (including Cache and Dalvik) then do the following -
Flash Official CM10 kernel.
Reboot to Recovery (do not go straight to ROM flash)
Once back in Recovery, flash the CM10 ROM.
Reboot device.
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So the official CM10 kernel is a gb kernel? Because remember that is what I'm currently on.
And just to make sure I got you... wipe everything, install kernel (I don't understand what you mean by "go straight to rom flash"), but then not "reboot system", instead "reboot to recovery", then install CM10 rom?
Also, when you say a "full wipe" do you mean that it will erase everything like a factory reset and delete all my apps and everything else? And is there anyway to install CM10 without doing this or is that the only way?
Cm10 kernel is a jelly bean kernel, so gb rom will not run under it.
Full wipe does mean erasing everything. Coming from gb, there is no other way to install, you need a full wipe, remember, you're updating two full revisions of the os, so it's not surprising a full wipe is needed. If you're worried about your apps, root gb before upgrading and use titanium backup to backup you're apps and then restore them when on cm10.
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Alba Donzo said:
If I were on a GB ROM and wanted to run CM10 I would Full Wipe (including Cache and Dalvik) then do the following -
Flash Official CM10 kernel.
Reboot to Recovery (do not go straight to ROM flash)
Once back in Recovery, flash the CM10 ROM.
Reboot device.
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If you are on rooted GB Rom and want to flash a custom JB or ICS one, this is what you do:
1. drop into recovery
2. do a full wife™ (factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik)
3. flash your JB/ICS Rom
4. reboob
Nothing else is needed, no intermediate steps like flashing another kernel in between, and especially no running Jbroid or Sybr kernel cleaning script.
chasmodo said:
If you are on rooted GB Rom and want to flash a custom JB or ICS one, this is what you do:
1. drop into recovery
2. do a full wife™ (factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik)
3. flash your JB/ICS Rom
4. reboob
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How original was that....
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SpyderTracks said:
If you're worried about your apps, root gb before upgrading and use titanium backup to backup you're apps and then restore them when on cm10.
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Once again, my phone is already rooted... I have mentioned this several times.
chasmodo said:
If you are on rooted GB Rom and want to flash a custom JB or ICS one, this is what you do:
1. drop into recovery
2. do a full wife™ (factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik)
3. flash your JB/ICS Rom
4. reboob
Nothing else is needed, no intermediate steps like flashing another kernel in between, and especially no running Jbroid or Sybr kernel cleaning script.
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You telling me that I can safely go straight to JB from my current GB rom and kernel?
I already have a "nightly" JB rom on my SD card, so just to be clear, all I do is go into CWM recovery, do a "full" wipe (how do I do that by the way?) and install the JB rom from zip?
Yes, you can go ahead. Just follow the instructions kindly provided by chasmodo.
But please, do not forget to flash GApps after you flashed the JB "nightly ROM which is on your SD Card". Otherwise you won't have Google account, play store etc yada yada.
Full wipe (aka full-wife™) means wipe data/factory reset. Nothing else.
AA1973 said:
Yes, you can go ahead. Just follow the instructions kindly provided by chasmodo.
But please, do not forget to flash GApps after you flashed the JB "nightly ROM which is on your SD Card". Otherwise you won't have Google account, play store etc yada yada.
Full wipe (aka full-wife™) means wipe data/factory reset. Nothing else.
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Great! I am downloading the GApps for JB now. How do I install them? I understand that this is also done through CWM recovery, but how do I instal them? do I install the JB rom and reboot to recovery and then just install GApps from zip before rebooting system?
Also, does the full wipe have to be done in CWM recovery, or can I just do the normal wipe on the phone menu before entering recovery?
You flash the ROM by pointing the recovery to the "ROM.zip", the same is valid for "GApps.zip".
So you do the following, no reboot in recovery in between those 2 steps!
Install zip (from where it is located, internal/external SD )
*ROM.zip
*Gapps.zip
*reboot system
Wipe data/factory reset is done (most of the times) in recovery. Just get used to it. Saves you some bad habits on doing it on stock ICS ...
AA1973 said:
You flash the ROM by pointing the recovery to the "ROM.zip", the same is valid for "GApps.zip".
So you do the following, no reboot in recovery in between those 2 steps!
Install zip (from where it is located, internal/external SD )
*ROM.zip
*Gapps.zip
*reboot system
Wipe data/factory reset is done (most of the times) in recovery. Just get used to it. Saves you some bad habits on doing it on stock ICS ...
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OK install ROM and then install GApps straight away, got it.
Just about the wipe, is it a simple one button wipe that wipes everything, or are there several things that I have to wipe independently? This is the part I'm not too sure about.
Just go into recovery and have a look. I mean, a really close look! Your topic was "need help to install a kernel" not "I don't know how to use recovery and please can someone come over to my place in order to explain me CWM recovery".
Sorry. Everything has been explained. Can't (or rather dont want to) help you further than what has been already mentioned. Period.
AA1973 said:
Just go into recovery and have a look. I mean, a really close look! Your topic was "need help to install a kernel" not "I don't know how to use recovery and please can someone come over to my place in order to explain me CWM recovery".
Sorry. Everything has been explained. Can't (or rather dont want to) help you further than what has been already mentioned. Period.
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That's fine. I'll go into recovery and have a look. Thanks for the help that you did give anyway.
It worked! I have been messing around with my new Note on Jellybean and looking through all the settings. It doesn't have project butter (or at least the project wasn't very successful), but still miles ahead of Touchwiz.
Just want to extend a big thanks to everyone that has helped me out. Much appreciated.
Hi,
I have CM9 and CWM on my touchpad, I wanted to upgrade to a jelly bean rom (SCHIZOID). Can anyone help me on how to update to this rom? Not too sure myself and I don't want to mess things up...
Thanks
soulja786 said:
Hi,
I have CM9 and CWM on my touchpad, I wanted to upgrade to a jelly bean rom (SCHIZOID). Can anyone help me on how to update to this rom? Not too sure myself and I don't want to mess things up...
Thanks
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I would do a completely clean install. Run acmeuninstaller, then in webos, run 'remove android'. I f you don't have it, download it from preware. If you don't have preware, install it using WOSQI. Then install cm10 using acmeinstaller3. As long as you're at it might as well upgrade cwm and moboot. They'll install with acmeinstaller3. Here's the link for recovery :http://goo.im/devs/jcsullins/cmtouchpad/recovery
Use the 12/15 version. Here's the link for acmeuninstaller and acmeinstaller3. http://goo.im/devs/jcsullins/cmtouchpad/tools
Here's the link for the gapps: http://goo.im/gapps
Use the 4/29 gapps for cm9 and the 10/11 for cm10.
There are several good how to's here and over at the webos nation forum. Just follow one and you'll be fine.
add one more thing::
backup the cm9 you have now.. my daily is cm9.
AFAIK, it will be complete when dorregaray is satisfied w/ his gyroscope..which i dont really care about acuz i dont play any of those games.
who knows when its fixed, i might play something tho.
i do have a current working cm10 installation backedup ..
there are couple things i want to see fixed before i make cm10 my daily..
I assume you can restore app data by backing up to titanium backup. I use it with my phone when changing ROMs.
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ludvball said:
I assume you can restore app data by backing up to titanium backup. it with my phone when changing ROMs.
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I just installed CM9 using acmeinstaller 3 and moboot 0.3.5 and new cwm. Do I still need to do a clean install as described above if I want to try schizoid?
Can I just do a full erase data, /cache, and Dalvik Cache partitions.... and install schizoid zip via cwm?
This is pretty comprehensive: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/31548-ho...with-sound-camera-microphone-updated-1302013/
After this, just use CWM to flash new rom.
fun4stuff said:
I just installed CM9 using acmeinstaller 3 and moboot 0.3.5 and new cwm. Do I still need to do a clean install as described above if I want to try schizoid?
Can I just do a full erase data, /cache, and Dalvik Cache partitions.... and install schizoid zip via cwm?
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I would recommend you to use CWM6 and moboot 0.3.8 at the very least. If you just want to check out the speed of cm10 for a little while, I would suggest using Oat's one off CM10 Christmas gift. I was mixing CM9/10 CWM5/6 boot.5/.8 and I had to webOS doctor it eventually. So be careful
Oats ROM is good because it could work even over a ACME2 instance