droidth3ory has a new version of ICS out now. Here's the link to his post. I take no credit for it, other than letting users of XDA know about it.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/18639-axi0m-b-cm9-403-2182012/
What's different from this and the older version on 2/14 different Dec never heard of axiom or whatever it is ??
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It seems to be a little faster. At least for me it did. You also don't have to flash google apps separately.
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Data fix is Mich simpler too !!!
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What's different from this and the older version on 2/14 different Dec never heard of axiom or whatever it is ??
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well... he did kinda say it was new, that could be why you haven't heard of it. Not trying to be rude, but I mean just check out the link and I'm sure your questions will be answered...and the main thing is that th3ory had released a statement saying he was done developing , so if this is indeed a new release that's quite exciting. idk, i haven't been online much this past week due to classes so I don't know if this is now considered 'old' news but as soon as I read the link im sure i'll know.
...........and this is new EXCITING news.... so just read the features list or changelog if you wnat to know what is different.
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well... he did kinda say it was new, that could be why you haven't heard of it. Not trying to be rude, but I mean just check out the link and I'm sure your questions will be answered...and the main thing is that th3ory had released a statement saying he was done developing , so if this is indeed a new release that's quite exciting. idk, i haven't been online much this past week due to classes so I don't know if this is now considered 'old' news but as soon as I read the link im sure i'll know.
...........and this is new EXCITING news.... so just read the features list or changelog if you wnat to know what is different.
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In my first android's forum, they would have released some form of dragon on him, and many other bionic users.
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I am new to using safestrap. I am on Eclipse and want to try this ROM. When I want to revert back, is it easier just to do a restore? The installation steps seem to be the same except for the factory wipe. Why does this have to be done?
For those using this ROM how is the connectivity?
You need a clean partition to install on. That's why you have to wipe before installing. If you don't, you could end up with junk from the other rom still on there and causing the new rom problems.
Far as reverting back, you may want to install eclipse on nonsafe so you can just toggle from safe to nonsafe. If you plan on installing both on safe, you will have to wipe everything each time you switch back and forth.
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If you use eclipse as your daily rom, I suggest installing bootstrap and using it to install eclipse. Then after doing that, install safe strap again and use that to install ics. We have more ics coming out still and you don't want anything but ics on the safe and your regular rom on nonsafe. We will probably see at least 2-3 more versions of ics.
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That is a good idea. As to installing Eclipse in the unsafe partition. I need to make a complete backup of the current safe system. Then toggle from safe to unsafe and do the restore?
What happens when another OTA update comes from Verizon?
More ICS questions when I get that far.
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That is a good idea. As to installing Eclipse in the unsafe partition. I need to make a complete backup of the current safe system. Then toggle from safe to unsafe and do the restore?
What happens when another OTA update comes from Verizon?
More ICS questions when I get that far.
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Your probably going to have to start with a fresh install of eclipse from bootstrap. Backups from safe strap and bootstrap aren't compatible with each other from my understanding.
When another update comes, we may have to go back to stock to install it.
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There has been a new version of ics released since this came out the other day.
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If I do not want to use bootstrap, then if I want to revert from tbis ICS version, it is either restore a Safe backup of Eclipse or reinstall the .zip file after the appropriate data,cache wipes?
What do you have running on your nonsafe partition?
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I've never restored a safe partition backup to the nonsafe partition. I've only used the safe to play around with new roms while keeping my main rom on nonsafe. Each time I play with a new rom, I clear everything in safe and write over the last rom I played with. Safe mode is like my Android's playground.
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in the unsafe partition is Verizon's 2.3.4 .902. The safe one has Eclipse.
I just backed up the safe partition. After I try out this ROM, is it recommended to restore today's save to the safe partition or just reload Eclipse from scratch?
I'd keep a backup of stock made, put eclipse on nonsafe, and leave safe for playing around with ics. Sounds like the first thing you should do is back up your stock. After that, install eclipse over it. You may be able to restore a backup of eclipse over it. If you can't, you will have to temporarily install bootstrap, wipe data/cache/etc and flash a fresh copy of eclipse then reinstall safe strap. After reinstalling safe strap, switch to safe and install ics and you will have eclipse on nonsafe and ics on safe.
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I think that is a good goal for when I gain more experience. For now, I will try to flash this ROM and after a while then restore form my Eclipse backup. If that does not work, I can always reflash from the Eclipse .zip file.
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I think that is a good goal for when I gain more experience. For now, I will try to flash this ROM and after a while then restore form my Eclipse backup. If that does not work, I can always reflash from the Eclipse .zip file.
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There's only one way to get experience, go out there and do it.
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I was unable to install this ROM as it seem to loop for over 10 minutes. My Eclipse backup would not restore so I had to reflash it.
Is the a special order for this ROM: do the format system and deletes before selecting the. Zip file need to be the order to proceed in?
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Is there such a rom? I've checked teamhacksung's CM9 Alpha, Doc's Master ICS, Team ICSSGS, Fusion, and WeUI v0.6.6, and they all say to do a full wipe. Performed a search here and Google for any answers, but didn't find any.
I'm currently running Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Corn kernel, and when I upgraded from Froyo, I performed a full wipe. As many of you know, putting everything back on your phone is a major pain if you do not do a proper backup (I thought I backed up everything using Titanium, but apparently I didn't). Anyway, just curious if there is an ICS rom with a non-wipe option (or a super-cool, full of eye-candy Gingerbread rom with non-wipe).
Oh yeah, is Passion v13 Captivate-flashable? Thanks for any info you may have.
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Is there such a rom? I've checked teamhacksung's CM9 Alpha, Doc's Master ICS, Team ICSSGS, Fusion, and WeUI v0.6.6, and they all say to do a full wipe. Performed a search here and Google for any answers, but didn't find any.
I'm currently running Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Corn kernel, and when I upgraded from Froyo, I performed a full wipe. As many of you know, putting everything back on your phone is a major pain if you do not do a proper backup (I thought I backed up everything using Titanium, but apparently I didn't). Anyway, just curious if there is an ICS rom with a non-wipe option (or a super-cool, full of eye-candy Gingerbread rom with non-wipe).
Oh yeah, is Passion v13 Captivate-flashable? Thanks for any info you may have.
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You need to do a full wipe on your phone since you're coming from a Gingerbread ROM. You may not delete what's on your sdcard if you want to retain it but as for apps, it will be deleted and so are your contacts, messages, etc.
Yuck. Okay, I figured as much, I was just hoping So, a Nandroid back-up is best, right? NOT Titanium?
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Yuck. Okay, I figured as much, I was just hoping So, a Nandroid back-up is best, right? NOT Titanium?
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Yes, Nandroid back-up is good. You could do Titanium Backup as well but a fresh install of the apps would be better. I'm not sure it would work if you backed-up the apps from Gingerbread and install it on ICS, but you could try one app and test it.
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Yuck. Okay, I figured as much, I was just hoping So, a Nandroid back-up is best, right? NOT Titanium?
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You can do a A Nandroid, but don't try restoring that on ICS or you will most likely cause a metric ton of problems. Titanium would be the best way to back up and restore your apps and app data. NEVER restore system data.
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You can do a A Nandroid, but don't try restoring that on ICS or you will most likely cause a metric ton of problems. Titanium would be the best way to back up and restore your apps and app data. NEVER restore system data.
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Yep, forgot to mention that. Just backup your Apps and not your System Data.
Okay, wow, all the reading that I have done and I did NOT know that. No system data. Got it. Thank you both!
CM9 builds when upgrading from previous CM9 builds don't need a full wipe... I'm sure the others are the same... So won't be so bad unless you go between them all...
If you are so concerned with keeping your data and not wanting to go through the "pain" of resetting all your apps and such, you should stay with what you have. Instead, use a launcher with ICS themes to get the look of the ICS.
If you can take some pain and make the jump though, ICS offers a way more slicker OS for your Cappy.
Do not use Nandroid backup to restore your apps... TIBU is the one to use! As others said, the best way is to do a fresh (from the market) reinstall of all your apps and then use TIBU to restore your data for those specific apps only...
Edit: Concider this though while you are looking to upgrade. Most of these ICS roms are in beta stage... this means some bugs and other inconveniences... mind you they are minor but they exist. As the devs get these bugs and other issues addressed and update their roms, they would often require a fresh install (full wipe) to ensure best performance. This means that you will have to occasionally do a full wipe of your phone. It's fun to see the latest and greatest the devs have to offer but it also means that you have to do some "hard" work to enjoy the fruits of their labor... just something for you to think about...
I did not see it mentioned so I'll add. Every ROM that has a "no wipe" update is such because it is only a minor update to the existing ROM and not the whole. Even trying to do so results is a miss match of files and programs so at best you'll get FCs all over there place, at worst bootloops.
ICS, is a huge set of changes, including things google merged or removed. So the data from an app on an older version of android would be trying to send/receive info from a program that does not exist anymore and upon not getting what it wants would FC.
If you don't like having to restore everything, then wait from ICS until you see a few no wipe updates. Aside from SGSICS (since it is pure ASOP, and least likely to have any major changes) they all have a fair amount of developing yet to be done.
Now to the question of which type of backup . A nandroid backup is meant to restore your phone to it's current state (minus any partition changes). Tibu is designed for something like ROM hoping, so it only saves apps and their data. To illustrate an example of how to use both: 1 make backups, 2 load ICS ROM, 3 Tibu restore user apps (and user data only), 4 toy with ROM (be it a few hours or days), 5 you don't like it and want to go back, 6 Odin/Heimdall back to GB (to fix partition sizes), 7 restore nandroid and it's like your trip to ICS never happened.
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If you are so concerned with keeping your data and not wanting to go through the "pain" of resetting all your apps and such, you should stay with what you have. Instead, use a launcher with ICS themes to get the look of the ICS.
If you can take some pain and make the jump though, ICS offers a way more slicker OS for your Cappy.
Do not use Nandroid backup to restore your apps... TIBU is the one to use! As others said, the best way is to do a fresh (from the market) reinstall of all your apps and then use TIBU to restore your data for those specific apps only...
Edit: Concider this though while you are looking to upgrade. Most of these ICS roms are in beta stage... this means some bugs and other inconveniences... mind you they are minor but they exist. As the devs get these bugs and other issues addressed and update their roms, they would often require a fresh install (full wipe) to ensure best performance. This means that you will have to occasionally do a full wipe of your phone. It's fun to see the latest and greatest the devs have to offer but it also means that you have to do some "hard" work to enjoy the fruits of their labor... just something for you to think about...
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Cvcduty, you're right about enjoying the fruits of the other devs' labor. If they're willing to put in all that hard work just to keep our Captivates as updated as possible, then the very least I can do is go through 5 minutes of work to flash the roms correctly and in the way the devs intended, and not look for an easier way. I have flashed a couple of times before, I'm just not completely comfortable doing it. But I almost there!
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I did not see it mentioned so I'll add. Every ROM that has a "no wipe" update is such because it is only a minor update to the existing ROM and not the whole. Even trying to do so results is a miss match of files and programs so at best you'll get FCs all over there place, at worst bootloops.
ICS, is a huge set of changes, including things google merged or removed. So the data from an app on an older version of android would be trying to send/receive info from a program that does not exist anymore and upon not getting what it wants would FC.
If you don't like having to restore everything, then wait from ICS until you see a few no wipe updates. Aside from SGSICS (since it is pure ASOP, and least likely to have any major changes) they all have a fair amount of developing yet to be done.
Now to the question of which type of backup . A nandroid backup is meant to restore your phone to it's current state (minus any partition changes). Tibu is designed for something like ROM hoping, so it only saves apps and their data. To illustrate an example of how to use both: 1 make backups, 2 load ICS ROM, 3 Tibu restore user apps (and user data only), 4 toy with ROM (be it a few hours or days), 5 you don't like it and want to go back, 6 Odin/Heimdall back to GB (to fix partition sizes), 7 restore nandroid and it's like your trip to ICS never happened.
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DaNaRkI, it's not that I don't like to restore everything (even though that's what I said), it's more like even though I have flashed a couple of times already, I'm still a little uncomfortable doing it. And I have read, I mean read for hours before I took my first step, but it seems like the more I read, I keep finding more new stuff that I probably should have known to start with. Take Nandroid and Tibu for example, I thought they worked exactly the same, but now I know, thanks to you, that there is a BIG difference. AND I learned yesterday (reading somewhere on here) to never ever restore "system data". It's a lot to keep up with if you're a blonde
Thank you for taking the time to explain, it helped a lot!
Anyone else having trouble going back a non-safe system from safe with ICS ROMS?
Other thing I noticed is that safestrap wont let me toss a new ROM onto a non-safe system. Normal?
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I remember it happened to me a while back on an older version of safe strap. On the latest version of safestrap it just recently to happen to me except I could not go from non safe to safe. I had an eclipse rom on safe. But others have told me that the eclipse rom does not play well with safe strap. However it is by design with the current version of safe strap that it will not allow you to install a custom rom on the non safe side.
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Other thing I noticed is that safestrap wont let me toss a new ROM onto a non-safe system. Normal?
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Yes this is normal. The whole point of safestrap is to leave the stock (unsafe) system alone and only flash ROMs in the safe system.
I know hashcode0f has been working on updates to safestrap. New versions were released tonight for droid4 and razr (I think) and I hope bionic is next in line.
Might be a good idea to give him a shout and share you experience...
Well if problems happen with Eclipse then that is understandable since it is my non-safe system.
I personally know enough of how to get back and forth and restore if I run into problems. For me it's a non-safe daily driver and a safe CM9 or AOKP.
Anyway, thanks guys. That really cleared a few things up.
Once a boot mode toggle has failed do you, or anyone else, know of a way to get back to a normal functioning safestrap?
ok so heres the deal. i already have the file downloaded via the updater in the settings already to get installed. but i used rom toolkit to modify my status bar and install a custom bootanimation as well as a few other things like that. do i have to use rsd lite and a full 902 fxz file to do a full sweep and clean recovery before installing 905? also does it require me to uninstall safestrap? i'm not entirely sure if anyone else has answered these questions as i don't know if anyone else has done these kind of things before upgrading to 905. i plan on installing the ICS leak after installing 905 thats why i wish to know these things as i'd rather not screw up my phone after i've put so much time and effort into making it the way i want it you know? OH one other question! i know that the ICS leak is rootable does that mean safestrap is also ICS leak friendly?
I believe you should be able to just run the update and the Bionic will reboot into stock recovery. I would create a nandroid just to be safe so you can restore if something goes wrong. I read somewhere that the ICS leak requires you to eliminate safestrap though I am not sure if that is true or not.
I decidex to go thd longer safer route of rsd lol. But i rooted the leak and safestrapped it and it still works so yay!!!! Lol
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So you can successfully dual boot with safe strap on the leak? Great to hear!
I have had my Bionic for a while now and have been thinking about rooting it. I finally got the ICS update but have been using GO Launcher too much to even notice it. Anyway, like I said, I want to root my phone. I am current on all updates. For some reason it's running at a tenth of it's memory tho not much is running that I can see. This leads me to believe there's things running in the background that I can not see. I am reluctant to get rid of all my apps, but I also don't want anything that's eating all my resources either. I kinda want to start new but kinda don't. I guess I just don't like letting go of anything.
I know this is selfish of me, but I am hoping that this thread will stay clean of others chiming in asking about their issues. I just don't want the thread to lose focus since this is about what I hope to get from my phone.
Ok, so here are my questions or favors to ask:
Since my phone is fully updated, do I need to do some other updated steps for rooting my phone or is rooting always the same no matter the build or version?
When I go to root my phone, I back up everything first and then I get it back, right?
I read somewhere that it's possible to brick the phone. What precautions should I take to avoid that?
Can I get all the benefits of a rooted phone without a ROM?
Are ROMs really that awesome that I should get one, or three?
I am interested in a ROM after some posts and pages I read. I was attracted to CM at first but so is everyone else probably at first. Does CM even work on the Bionic? And if it does, does everything work like the camera and Bluetooth?
As I said earlier, I use GO Launcher. One of the things I really like about it is the folders I can make in the App Drawer. Now CM is based off of ADW Launcher, but no options to make folders in the app drawer? Is it possible in any way if I choose CM as my main ROM?
Is CM overrated? Liberty and Eclipse look nice too. I also read a little, very little, about AOKP. Any suggestions? I want to get rid of a lot of extra processes and bloatware but I don't want to lose some of the apps pre-installed like Google Maps and Navigation, etc. Unless there are other, much better replacements that anyone knows of.
I know most of this is personal preference but I am hoping to find a comprehensive way at figuring out what's best for me.
I had more questions but I will wait and ask more as the thread continues.
Oh, I don't really need answers in step by step unless I ask. A simple link would suffice unless it's not covered anywhere.
Thanks for reading this, I hope I am not frustrating anyone as I am sure similar posts have been made.
You're basically asking to have this entire forum summarized into one post...
Spend some time reading, then ask smaller, more concise questions.
Not trying to sound like a ****, but i could spend an hour answering all of that. Half of those questions could be answered with some reading of the ROM specific threads.
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Ok, I know that SOME of the questions are answered somewhere else. The thing is that after I read one thread only to find it unsolved, I read others that are are 50 pages long going nowhere as well. I haven't seen anything about my phone being fully updated and I am not going any further until I know for sure from someone like a DEV that I can.
Some of these questions are yes/no questions, which wouldn't take long at all to answer, maybe even less time it takes to write a complaint about my post. I certainly don't expect one person to write for an hour on every topic I asked about. I thought it would be a collective effort.
I guess I will take this slowly.
Since my Droid Bionic is updated to the current versions, do I need to do this differently than others have used in the past to root this phone?
Where is the best method to do this?
Before I start, I have to backup everything, right? If so, what's the best way to go about backing up everything?
I read somewhere that there are 3 things you should do to make sure you avoid bricking. I have since lost it. Does anybody know a surefire way to do this.
Please be gentle.
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Ok, I know that SOME of the questions are answered somewhere else. The thing is that after I read one thread only to find it unsolved, I read others that are are 50 pages long going nowhere as well. I haven't seen anything about my phone being fully updated and I am not going any further until I know for sure from someone like a DEV that I can.
Some of these questions are yes/no questions, which wouldn't take long at all to answer, maybe even less time it takes to write a complaint about my post. I certainly don't expect one person to write for an hour on every topic I asked about. I thought it would be a collective effort.
I guess I will take this slowly.
Since my Droid Bionic is updated to the current versions, do I need to do this differently than others have used in the past to root this phone?
Where is the best method to do this?
Before I start, I have to backup everything, right? If so, what's the best way to go about backing up everything?
I read somewhere that there are 3 things you should do to make sure you avoid bricking. I have since lost it. Does anybody know a surefire way to do this.
Please be gentle.
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1st question . No, your phone is not special since it is updated what worked for others will work for you.
2nd follow this link and the instructions to the letter http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/4026-samurihls-house-of-bionic/
3rd . Since you are stock. I would suggest using Verizon's back up services. TiBu requires root. IMHO I wouldn't bother because Google automatically backs up contacts and most roms require you to do a full data wipe.
There is no magic formula to keep from bricking your phone. Just follow directions and if you can't tolerate the risk don't do it.
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1st question . No, your phone is not special since it is updated what worked for others will work for you.
2nd follow this link and the instructions to the letter Can not post links
3rd . Since you are stock. I would suggest using Verizon's back up services. TiBu requires root. IMHO I wouldn't bother because Google automatically backs up contacts and most roms require you to do a full data wipe.
There is no magic formula to keep from bricking your phone. Just follow directions and if you can't tolerate the risk don't do it.
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That link no longer works
Also I found an article named "Learn How-To Root, Custom Recovery, Backup, And De-Bloat Your DROID BIONIC" while searching around for ROM ideas and such. Anyway, after reading this, it almost seems as if I don't need to do factory reset. Is this ok?
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That link no longer works
Also I found an article named "Learn How-To Root, Custom Recovery, Backup, And De-Bloat Your DROID BIONIC" while searching around for ROM ideas and such. Anyway, after reading this, it almost seems as if I don't need to do factory reset. Is this ok?
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Just last week I started with a stock ICS Bionic and followed this guide to root: http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bionic-root/how-to-root-ics-on-droid-bionic-and-motorola-android/
That went very well. I wanted to try out JB 4.2.2, so I installed SafeStrap and an official CM 10.1 nightly. The net result was that I had a very unstable phone until I did a factory reset . As of this writing, however, it's behaving extremely well. YMMV.
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Just last week I started with a stock ICS Bionic and followed this guide to root: Can not post links
That went very well. I wanted to try out JB 4.2.2, so I installed SafeStrap and an official CM 10.1 nightly. The net result was that I had a very unstable phone until I did a factory reset . As of this writing, however, it's behaving extremely well. YMMV.
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Ok, so you flashed the ROM, didn't work so well, then you did a factory reset. Doesn't a factory reset wipe the phone? If that's the case, doesn't it wipe out the ROM?
Oh one more thing. Following this link, does this wipe the data from my phone? Anything I should back up before doing this? Should I do any updates before flashing CM 10?
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Ok, so you flashed the ROM, didn't work so well, then you did a factory reset. Doesn't a factory reset wipe the phone? If that's the case, doesn't it wipe out the ROM?
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No, a factory data reset doesn't wipe the ROM, but it does require running the initial setup (as if you were setting up a brand new phone).
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...one more thing. Following this link, does this wipe the data from my phone? Anything I should back up before doing this? Should I do any updates before flashing CM 10?
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You definitely want to back up everything you're not willing to lose. I ran a backup the very first thing after installing SafeStrap, and it was a good thing because with all my messing around I managed to bork my stock ROM to the point that it wouldn't boot. Fortunately, all I had to do was restore it from a backup.
My phone on CM 10.1 had enough issues with freezing and crashing that I decided this morning to try a different ROM. So far, I've had really good results with Icarus HD (a custom ICS ROM). I really don't know if my experience with CM 10.1 was typical.
OK, so I want to root. Now does rooting wipe any data? Regarding Safestrap, I install that first before rooting?
Rooting doesn't wipe any data. Root first, then install SafeStrap.
Okay, I will be rooting and installing safestrap when I get home for work today. I will still have more questions I am sure. I do have a few before I actually start rooting or right after.
I know safestrap makes a backup/recovory, but is it full recovery only or can I recover portions, like say my Dolphin browser with the settings and bookmarks?
I read that when making a backup of stock ROM, use sdcard, I'm sure that means external but when flashing a ROM, will that wipe data from the external card?
When setting up slots for multi booting ROMs, gernally how much storage do they need?
If I have two different ROMs, does it act like user accounts in Windows, would I have to download the same app on each ROM or do both ROMs have access?
Can one ROM have stuff I don't want the other ROM to have visible?
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I know safestrap makes a backup/recovory, but is it full recovery only or can I recover portions, like say my Dolphin browser with the settings and bookmarks?
I read that when making a backup of stock ROM, use sdcard, I'm sure that means external but when flashing a ROM, will that wipe data from the external card?
When setting up slots for multi booting ROMs, gernally how much storage do they need?
If I have two different ROMs, does it act like user accounts in Windows, would I have to download the same app on each ROM or do both ROMs have access?
Can one ROM have stuff I don't want the other ROM to have visible?
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1. SafeStrap is full recovery only. Use Titanium Backup for backing up apps and data.
2. Flashing a ROM won't do anything to your external SD card.
3. When you set up ROM slots, you'll be asked how much room you'd like to allocate for data. The choices are 1, 2, or 3 GB. I started off allocating 3 GB to the stock ROM slot and was never able to load more than 3 separate ROMs before I ran out of room. I'd start with just using 1 GB for data.
4. Each ROM is an island. You have to download the apps separately (unless when you go through the initial setup you tell the system to restore apps and settings from the Google servers.)
Cool. I rooted and got safestrap but it's version 3.05 and not 3.11. Some ROM I was interested in said must have 3.11, which I am assuming that's the newest one so far. I did watch a tutorial about getting the current version, so no question there.
So the ROMs are separate islands and during flashing they can be in slots allocated up to 3GB. Does that mean that's the only amount of storage I can have when running that ROM? Say I like taking lots of photos and didn't save them to my external card, could I essentially run out of space or is the storage allocation just for the ROM itself and any updates it may have?
Sorry about these series of questions, just want to make sure I am doing it correctly in case I might make a mistake for future's sake.
The storage allocation is for the ROM, apps, and data that haven't been assigned to the external SD card. You can definitely run out of space if you load several ROMs and don't save any of your data to the external SD card.
Also, keep in mind that when VZW sends the OTA update to 4.1 next week, the only way to keep root is to root in ICS and use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to protect root before you take the OTA. If you flash the system image, you will lose root, and there is no known working root exploit for the Bionic JB release.
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Hey, I used Voodoo before flashing the 4.1 update, but forgot to update the binary beforehand, and therefore lost root. Anyone have any luck yet with an exploit for the OTA?
And there's no working FXZ before this now, correct? This software is now the earliest version I can FXZ to?
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Hey, I used Voodoo before flashing the 4.1 update, but forgot to update the binary beforehand, and therefore lost root. Anyone have any luck yet with an exploit for the OTA?
And there's no working FXZ before this now, correct? This software is now the earliest version I can FXZ to?
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Not root exploit yet for bionic JB. And if you try to FXZ back to an earlier version, you will brick your phone.
OK, so I rooted, got safestrap tho still not updated to 3.11, got TBU (free), got Voodoo. I had to race the clock today cuz it was updating android, or at least downloading the update. The root process I used gave me SuperSU and didn't tell me the version for the SU binaries. I searched around and all I could find was info on SuperUser in regards to backing up root. I uninstalled SuperSU, kinda. I just told it to use a different SU cuz when I used SuperUser and updated the binaries, SuperSU wanted to update them, then I opened SuperUser and the binaries reverted back. I was worried so I just told SuperSU to use a different SU. Was that ok? I didn't update to JB yet. Has there been luck with the Bionic using voodoo and keeping root after the JB update?
All this back and forth means I'm making a full image backup, then trying various ROMs. I've tried CM10.1, too many issues (no car dock, trouble installing lots of apps, no speakerphone). Next is... Whizzed Bean?
EDIT: Seems Speakerphone issue was fixed in the 0420 nightly. Will have to try it again.
AND I copied all the backups to my PC, so I can restore them at will (provided the phone still boots, that is... )
If I can't find a JB ROM I like I guess I can do HouseofBionic reflash (which did NOT cause me to lose data, as I upgraded to ICS that way) then allow the JB OTA to go through.
*sigh*... So much bull**** in these updates.
Hope someone sees my question above. I still haven't updated to JB yet. Once I do I will be flashing ROMs. I am interested in CM, Liquid Smooth, Icarus Hd and Wizzed Bean or Synergy (executioner ) Both WB and Synergy look indentical. What is the differences.
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Hope someone sees my question above. I still haven't updated to JB yet. Once I do I will be flashing ROMs. I am interested in CM, Liquid Smooth, Icarus Hd and Wizzed Bean or Synergy (executioner ) Both WB and Synergy look indentical. What is the differences.
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WB is a fork of CNA (codename Android) 4.1 JB (which is itself based on AOSP)
while Synergy is a fork of the standard Moto ICS (.246).
Yes, they look identical because they both used the Samsung UI elements.
I have my Droid 3 working with the Stock rom and the safetrap using MiniMoto. Right now with all the changes I have made to it it works good, now I want to move it from safetrap to the phone as the default rom, I haven't found much info of going from safetrap to flash into the phone, any ideas?
As far as I know, I see that I would have to use the rsd, but I see that it flashes img files, I just have the zip file from the latest minimoto so... I am lost here.
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I have my Droid 3 working with the Stock rom and the safetrap using MiniMoto. Right now with all the changes I have made to it it works good, now I want to move it from safetrap to the phone as the default rom, I haven't found much info of going from safetrap to flash into the phone, any ideas?
As far as I know, I see that I would have to use the rsd, but I see that it flashes img files, I just have the zip file from the latest minimoto so... I am lost here.
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AFAIK there is no way to transfer a rom from safestrap to the stock system.
As a thought, and I have no idea if this would work, if you're using safestrap 3+ it saves custom roms as image files on the sd and mounts then for use. Logically you could try flashing this image file using motofastboot but I'm just talking out my ass, so...
If you're on an older safestrap, I had an idea about this once, I'll see if I can find the post I wrote when I get off work. I never tried it but it made sense to me
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I see...
So, just to be clear, to flash over stock it has to be an img file. The rom developer must have this option instead of zip? I'm looking to replace the stock rom with something less bloated like MiniMoto but as far as I see most of the Droid 3 roms apparently only run on Safestrap (I have the latest version 3.5) Damn I was looking to move all to the phone system so it would run a little bit faster
P.D.: Are there roms that could be flashed to replace the stock one then?
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I see...
So, just to be clear, to flash over stock it has to be an img file. The rom developer must have this option instead of zip? I'm looking to replace the stock rom with something less bloated like MiniMoto but as far as I see most of the Droid 3 roms apparently only run on Safestrap (I have the latest version 3.5) Damn I was looking to move all to the phone system so it would run a little bit faster
P.D.: Are there roms that could be flashed to replace the stock one then?
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Any rom can be flashed over stock, just not worth safestrap. You need plain old bootstrap app. However that doesn't help you move an existing rom install(which is what I thought you were asking)
I don't use safestrap on my phone and have minimoto installed as my stock rom. Just be aware brick recovery can be more difficult as I've had issues getting back into cwm after flashing a rom. Rsdlite will still get you back to stock no problem though so not that big a deal
Here is a http://db.tt/rNhVQCsclink for bootstrap. You'll need to boot into stock system and completely remove safestrap before you install this. I like to rsdlite or fastboot to complete stock personally, but not strictly necessary. Safestrap backups are not compatible with cwm. I can't fully guarantee this bootstrap works. I use a milestone version(since I have the XT860).
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So, to understand, I could flash minimoto over stock, but not use safestrap later? I had the idea to have flashed minimoto over stock and then a safestrap with other minimoto, if one fails I can go over the other and make changes accordingly. Bad or good idea?
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So, to understand, I could flash minimoto over stock, but not use safestrap later? I had the idea to have flashed minimoto over stock and then a safestrap with other minimoto, if one fails I can go over the other and make changes accordingly. Bad or good idea?
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Once you've flashed minimoto to stock you can remove the bootstrap and reinstall safestrap, yes. It seems redundant to have 2 versions of the same rom flashed to the phone, seems like less effort to just make sure to backup before making any changes, but it's your phone to do with as you will.
I don't use safestrap because I don't care about being able to reflash my phone. I hate this thing and am just waiting for it to die so I can replace it.
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:cyclops::cyclops: is not such a bad phone, if it just had more ram it would be fine. But 512Mb is just not enough (never ever )
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:cyclops::cyclops: is not such a bad phone, if it just had more ram it would be fine. But 512Mb is just not enough (never ever )
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And it's stuck on gb. I can't listen to music and have my running app open. One of them will close due to lack of ram. Keyboard sucks ass on mine. Button presses only register half the time. Same for the capacitive keys. Apps often take up to 10 seconds to Open(probably because it needs to clear ram)
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So, just to be sure (sorry for the delay, on monday I am officially on vacation so I was doing all the make up work that I had to do :fingers-crossed: )
I can flash minimoto over stock
Then install safe trap and install minimoto on the rom slot
Why?
Because I like minimoto and I have found that for this phone and my lifestyle it fits really well, the problem is that on safestrap mode I believe the lag is because he's reading some stuff from the sdcard and the internal memory (both I think and believe (I could be wrong, I am just an advanced user ) are slower than the reserved space for the rom itself), so I will start from scratch again install only the programs I really need on the phone rom and leave the safestrap rom for those scenarios where the phone is stuck on something.
Is that all virtually correct and possible, right?
XDADoog said:
So, just to be sure (sorry for the delay, on monday I am officially on vacation so I was doing all the make up work that I had to do :fingers-crossed: )
I can flash minimoto over stock
Then install safe trap and install minimoto on the rom slot
Why?
Because I like minimoto and I have found that for this phone and my lifestyle it fits really well, the problem is that on safestrap mode I believe the lag is because he's reading some stuff from the sdcard and the internal memory (both I think and believe (I could be wrong, I am just an advanced user ) are slower than the reserved space for the rom itself), so I will start from scratch again install only the programs I really need on the phone rom and leave the safestrap rom for those scenarios where the phone is stuck on something.
Is that all virtually correct and possible, right?
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I get lag using it on stock rom too. You may find some improvement by flashing it over stock. Safestrap mounts an image file as a loop device, which I have heard is slower, although I couldn't confirm that through googling. Android seems to start to lag over time, I find flashing fresh often gives improvements, then it slows down again, then flash again etc
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