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First up let me say I recently moved from the Motorola Dext MB200 to the Samsung Galaxy S phone.
As I am pretty familiar with rooting and adding roms to the dext/cliq
I am not sure about the Galaxy... is it the same way?
What do I need as I hear people say the Superoneclick method is better
What info do I need before rooting or installing the rom to make sure I have the proper rom.
Basically wanting a stable rom but faster than stock.
ie. wifi - bluetooth
Thanks
EwOkie said:
First up let me say I recently moved from the Motorola Dext MB200 to the Samsung Galaxy S phone.
As I am pretty familiar with rooting and adding roms to the dext/cliq
I am not sure about the Galaxy... is it the same way?
What do I need as I hear people say the Superoneclick method is better
What info do I need before rooting or installing the rom to make sure I have the proper rom.
Basically wanting a stable rom but faster than stock.
ie. wifi - bluetooth
Thanks
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Look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
JVH (Gingerbread) getting good reviews, method here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037584
Use the search button for custom roms.
Look under the development section for all the available ROM if you are currently on 2.2 froyo you may want to stick there if you are looking for something stable as 2.3 roms are still in a lot of the development stages.
Just use superoneclick to root. lots of videos on youtube if you need help.
I rooted mine about 2-3 weeks ago. I stick with stock but changed the kernel in order to be able to apply a lagfix. I change the filesystem from RFS to EXT4. The difference between the two is distinguishable as night and day in term of speed.
dlockhart said:
Look under the development section for all the available ROM if you are currently on 2.2 froyo you may want to stick there if you are looking for something stable as 2.3 roms are still in a lot of the development stages.
Just use superoneclick to root. lots of videos on youtube if you need help.
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if he is in 2.2 he should upgrade at least to 2.2.1. it's far better.
What I have :
2.2
baseband - i9000NEJP2
KERNEL - 2.6.32.9 [email protected]#1
BUILD - FROYO.NEJP5
If any of this helps
If I upgrade what do I do and do I need to unlock the phone again?
are you looking to unlock or root?
since you are on 2.2 just root using superoneclick program
if you are looking to unlock, go to the market and down un-locker pro
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
There is no "best" rom. It's what's "best" for you. Read the forums and learn to flash 2.2 roms first.
I must warn you, flashing becomes very addictive.
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Yea i know i have a sidekick 4g and ive tried about every rom on it
thanks for the info though
Tyler0309 said:
Yea i know i have a sidekick 4g and ive tried about every rom on it
thanks for the info though
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I recommend trying MIUI, the customization is what puts it over the top!
Here are a few different versions of MIUI:
Galnet**What I prefer**
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/twooey/v3/Twooey-V3-i897.zip
Prototypes release
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066885
MIUI.us
http://roms.miui.us/1.8.12/MIUI.us_captivatemtd_1.8.12_Eng_Deo_ZipA_Signed.zip
Ok ill give it a try..do i have to update to a different version> im running 2.1 right now
Tyler0309 said:
Ok ill give it a try..do i have to update to a different version> im running 2.1 right now
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I've not been on 2.1 since phone came out. I would use odin one click to goto 2.2 stock. Root it then install cwm and then follow this guide if your going to try Galnet's MIUI.
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/content/forum/guides/(guide)-i897-galaxy-s-captivate-gb-bootloaders/
Then just pop the MIUI.zip on root of sdcard and install from CWM.
Tyler0309 said:
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
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Wow... so... You should probably READ a lot more before flashing anything, but I'll give you a few hints to get you going:
1) Make sure you understand what a "PBL", "SBL", "Kernel", and "Modem" are and how they are placed/installed in your phone.
2) Learn how to correctly and safely use ODIN (and/or Heimdall).
3) Learn about the various methods of recovery for "soft bricks", and if necessary for your hardware revision, possibly invest in a jig (also learn what a jig is)
4) There are 2 different types/branches of ROMs for the Captivate:
-- Samsung Branch
-- AOSP Branch
Within the "Samsung" types you have:
- i9000 ROMs (like JVP, JVR, JP8, etc)
- i897 ROMs (like JF6, KF1, etc)
Within the "AOSP" types you have:
- CM7
- MIUI
- Other AOSP-based ROMs
Which is "better" is relative. CM7 and MIUI have features that aren't present in the Samsung ROMs, and both offer a bit more customization than the Samsung ROMs. However, only the Samsung ROMs offer GPU accelerated video playback, and they tend to have significantly better battery life than the AOSP-type ROMs. Also the Samsung-type ROMs used to be much more stable than the AOSP branches, but recently, the tide may have turned in the other direction. Some of the low-level radio settings are also unavailable in any of the AOSP builds. And finally, some of the Samsung stock camera features are unavailable in CM7/MIUI.
It really all depends what you want... Do you want closer to stock "open source" Android? Or do you want Samsung's vision of what they think Android should be?
Also, the whole kernel/modem part is dependent on what branch of ROM you plan on running. When using a i9000-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i9000 kernel and modem. When using a i897-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i897 kernel and modem. The rules for CM7/MIUI are a bit more vague, but at the very least you'll need to use a CM7/MIUI (most AOSP-type kernels are interchangeable) compatible kernel.
The best advice is really to try them all out and see what you like the most. If you're currently on stock 2.1 (which it sounds like you are), at the very least you should upgrade to some variant of Gingerbread (2.3.4 preferably). You will definitely notice a big difference in terms of speed and functionality. From there, well, it's all really up to you...
OR alternatively, just start throwing stuff on your phone and see what happens. Just PLEASE don't come crying back in the Captivate General forum with a "OMG I bricked my phone!!! Plz help!!!" thread. Fair warning...
Just a suggestion, but become familiar with Odin one click. Make sure your captivate has 3 button recovery, and read, re- read, and read again the directions of every rom before you flash it. Always make a nandroid back up if possible, and read the threads.if you have questions, so did someone else and the answer is probably already out there .use search. Some People will rip your head off if you don't. as far as miui goes .....i was a flashaholic when I got phone. After switching to miui, It is very unlikely that I will ever leave. Best rom ever imho. And it updates every Friday so that satisfied the flashing urge. Usually it gets better with each release. The last couple have been a little rough though. Might want to spend the 8 bucks and have a download jig on standby. Can get it from mobiltech videos. Its worth it though
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Shammyh said:
Wow... so... You should probably READ a lot more before flashing anything, but I'll give you a few hints to get you going:
1) Make sure you understand what a "PBL", "SBL", "Kernel", and "Modem" are and how the are placed/installed in your phone.
2) Learn how to correctly and safely use ODIN (and/or Heimdall).
3) Learn about the various methods of recovery for "soft bricks", and if necessary for your hardware revision, possibly invest in a jig (also learn what a jig is)
4) There are 2 different types/branches of ROMs for the Captivate:
-- Samsung Branch
-- AOSP Branch
Within the "Samsung" types you have:
- i9000 ROMs (like JVP, JVR, JP8, etc)
- i897 ROMs (like JF6, KF1, etc)
Within the "AOSP" types you have:
- CM7
- MIUI
- Other AOSP-based ROMs
Which is "better" is relative. CM7 and MIUI have features that aren't present in the Samsung ROMs, and both offer a bit more customization than the Samsung ROMs. However, only the Samsung ROMs offer GPU accelerated video playback, and they tend to have significantly better battery life than the AOSP-type ROMs. Also the Samsung-type ROMs used to be much more stable than the AOSP branches, but recently, the tide may have turned in the other direction. Some of the low-level radio settings are also unavailable in any of the AOSP builds. And finally, some of the Samsung stock camera features are unavailable in CM7/MIUI.
It really all depends what you want... Do you want closer to stock "open source" Android? Or do you want Samsung's vision of what they think Android should be?
Also, the whole kernel/modem part is dependent on what branch of ROM you plan on running. When using a i9000-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i9000 kernel and modem. When using a i897-Samsung ROM, you pretty much have to use an i897 kernel and modem. The rules for CM7/MIUI are a bit more vague, but at the very least you'll need to use a CM7/MIUI (most AOSP-type kernels are interchangeable) compatible kernel.
The best advice is really to try them all out and see what you like the most. If you're currently on stock 2.1 (which it sounds like you are), at the very least you should upgrade to some variant of Gingerbread (2.3.4 preferably). You will definitely notice a big difference in terms of speed and functionality. From there, well, it's all really up to you...
OR alternatively, just start throwing stuff on your phone and see what happens. Just PLEASE don't come crying back in the Captivate General forum with a "OMG I bricked my phone!!! Plz help!!!" thread. Fair warning...
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Well said.
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Tyler0309 said:
I just got a captivate last night and i have unlocked and and rooted it
it has a firmware of 2.1 - update 1
idk if thats the most recent update
i was told i can not update the phone with a t-mobile sim card in it so can anyone post a thread on updated versions and what do you all think is the best rom?
THANKS
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a very simple and easy way to start with...
2.1 is eclair..
2.2 froyo
2.3 gingerbread..
means 2.1 is oldest and 2.3 is latest in case of official roms..
so obviously new version will hav more features and faster in speed...
so now u can take baby step and install 2.2 ..and use it for few days..and get the feel of it..then again after sometime u can install 2.3...
or else u can directly jump to 2.3....which is gingerbread....u can install stock kf1 on ur phone..its leaked official gb...if u search a bit..u will get it..
then u can use it for a lil while and get the feel of gb stock rom..in the meanwhile u can read xda abt available custom roms..and then install any of them...
coz every memeber here in xda will suggest the custom rom they r using..coz they r lovin the rom then only they r using....like for me..since the time i started flashin..i always used APEX ROM..so i will say its the best....
but again thats just me..
so decision is always urs...
So, I am thinking about putting custom ROM to my SGS i9000. Its currently with Android version 2.3.3.
I've been reading through this forum and most of custom ROMs are for Froyo? I mean many of instructions say that you have to be on Froyo if you want to use this ROM.
My question is must I get back to Froyo somehow or is it possible to put custom ROM for my current Android version?
Sorry about my noobishm. And I hope my english is good enough for you to understand.
Many thanks
-Jani
Check out the link in my signature.
Wrong, most of the custom roms are based on gingerbread. Stay as you are mate more excitement to come
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You can always switch between 2.2. and 2.3.x. The only thing you need to pay attention to is that you need to flash the proper bootloader.
Flashing a bootloader is risky insofar as if the bootloader is not flashed properly, your device is thoroughly bricked and can only be revived by Samsung (or someone with the proper hardware). Furthermore with Froyo you may erroneously flash a locked bootloader which would make you stuck with that one ROM for the rest of your device's life, so make sure you only flash unlocked ones.
This said, there are actually few ROMs out there that still rely on Froyo (Insanity comes to my mind as an example). So you probably won't need flash Froyo just because of custom ROMs. Simply follow DonVito2020's link and choose a Gingerbread one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1221298&page=2
Look at the fifth comment. Nice instruction, but is it safe one?
I'm gonna try it if it is.
Erakko said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1221298&page=2
Look at the fifth comment. Nice instruction, but is it safe one?
I'm gonna try it if it is.
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It looks like a good how-to. Whether it is safe or not I cannot tell without looking into the files, however since the post links to Gingerbread ROMS, not Froyo ROMs, it is most certainly safe, as far as the bootloader is concerned (at least I have never heard of locked Gingerbread bootloaders for the Galaxy S).
Though since you are already on stock Gingerbread, take a look under at the Baseband Version under Settings - About Phone. The last three letters will tell you which release of Gingerbread you have. In my case the baseband is I9000XXJVR, so I have JVR.
If you already have JVQ or JVP, you can flash the kernel and then Darky's Rom directly. Just don't forget to backup everything.
I rooted my phone sometime back and upgraded from eclair to froyo 2.2 (not at&t's froyo)
I have a 3 part question:
My question is do I have to flash back to eclair in order to install gingerbread? Or can I go from the version of froyo I have to gingerbread?
My last question is what is the best version of gingerbread out there?
The best answer is Read on the dev site the different GB roms. You have to choose from "leaked" stock KF1 (2.3.3), "leaked" stock KH3 (2.3.4), a few roms based out of KF1 and KH3, a ton of I9000 ports. Up to you to choose. Id stick to native Ginger bread like KF1 or KH3. You need to flash Gingerbread bootloaders though, and that carries risk. Check out all the Dev threads about them.
To answer the first question.... You definitely don't have to go as far back as Eclair; it is just preferred to start from a stock ROM. I personally always return to stock KB1 if I'm going to flash a Froyo custom ROM, or use KF1 for Gingerbread. I've never used AOSP, so I can't speak to those.
Also, remember that newer Captivate models will not boot if you try to flash Eclair. I made that mistake the first time I ever tried to flash a custom ROM.
Finally, be sure to pay attention to what boot loaders the particular ROM you want to use asks for, as that will affect what exact sequence/technique you use to flash. I definitely recommend Heimdall because of the level of control you have over what parts you want to flash.
Just to add my two cents: If you are Windows 7 x64 and using Odin, make sure you use XP Service pack 2 compatiblity mode, this also makes you use admin mode with it (the most important thing).
prbassplayer said:
The best answer is Read on the dev site the different GB roms. You have to choose from "leaked" stock KF1 (2.3.3), "leaked" stock KH3 (2.3.4), a few roms based out of KF1 and KH3, a ton of I9000 ports. Up to you to choose. Id stick to native Ginger bread like KF1 or KH3. You need to flash Gingerbread bootloaders though, and that carries risk. Check out all the Dev threads about them.
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Why stick with native gingerbread? No hspa, no kernel source for sound/color enhancement.
Ported froyo roms were more popular and feature ridden at first for this exact reason. and there are still not many kb1 roms because the time that came around I9000 ports were way more complete.
Same holds true. Native builds will always be playing catch up.
psych0phobia said:
Also, remember that newer Captivate models will not boot if you try to flash Eclair. I made that mistake the first time I ever tried to flash a custom ROM.
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That is only true for a particular build of eclair, jf6 the firmware contained in odin one click. There are other builds of eclair that will work on newer phones...
HSUPA support isn't important to me. I rarely use ATT's network since 90% of the time im near WIFI. I do miss Voodoo color fix, but thats about it. Ive used other I9000 ports and all of them seem to get funky after a while. Native builds don't. BUT like I said BEST answer was for him to read and choose from the DEV section. What some roms have that I like doesn't mean other people do. There is no "best" rom, its a matter of choice.
Edit: Remembered something else i do miss, BLN =/
froyo to gingerbread on captivate part 2
Thank you all very useful info.
But now I have 1 more question. I am running windows 7 partitioned on my Macbook Pro. I keep getting this error when using ODIN. "The application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b). Click OK to close the application."
Is there a way I can just do this on the Mac side? I haven't been able to look this up but I think the error has something to do with .NET framework I believe I have 4.0 not sure if I need to install all versions?
izda8 said:
Thank you all very useful info.
But now I have 1 more question. I am running windows 7 partitioned on my Macbook Pro. I keep getting this error when using ODIN. "The application was unable to start correctly (0xc000007b). Click OK to close the application."
Is there a way I can just do this on the Mac side? I haven't been able to look this up but I think the error has something to do with .NET framework I believe I have 4.0 not sure if I need to install all versions?
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I've never gotten that error. Try re-downloading. You can also use Heimdall a how to can be found here
izda8 said:
I think the error has something to do with .NET framework I believe I have 4.0 not sure if I need to install all versions?
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Odin does not use .NET, so that's not the problem. (The icon is a dead giveaway that it uses MFC.)
Right, ive had a i9000 for 5 months or so, and ever since i got it, ive found it to be slow, at times laggy. And hate alot of the crap samsung put on it.Which ive not even used.
I reckon its about time i start to make the most of my phone, but dont really know where to start, with these custom roms and rooting and what not.
I basically want it to run smoothly and possibly add a tweaks/features to it which could possibly improve it. However i remember reading somewhere, that ill lose the camera features if i install a custom rom. :l (i could be talking from my arse here)
Also i read that android 4.0 is coming or has come out. Would i be able to upgrade my phone to it ? and should i ?? If not what is the best rom to flash which will make my phone faster and smoother.
Is there anything at all to make it significantly faster, or is it limited by hardware :/
Im currently on:
kernal version 2.6.29
firmware 2.1 -update1
Which i havnt messed with since i got the phone.
Thanks, and sorry for the daft questions.
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
innovat0r said:
Oh dear! did you wrote 2.1? Please read basic root steps and install custom rom. I recommend you to start with Cf-root
go here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
As far as 4.0, please wait.
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Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
skweezer said:
Lol Is 2.1 bad ? hahaha
Sorry for sounding dim, but what have you pointed me to ?? rooting ? installing a rom ? updating kernal ?
And what is the difference between these ? are all 3 needed to get the phone working as i want it to ?
Im totally new to everything andriod so can you please be as clear as possible.
Thank you for your reply.
And sorry again for all the questions.
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OK, here we go...
1. First of all you need to root your device to install a custom rom or kernel. So first root your device with the above thread (cf-root).
2. Choose any rom from so many roms available all over xda. Choose only from the topic which is under your device's category, not from other device's rom,lol.
To do this you need Odin(use search)
3. Once done you will have custom rom and also custom kernel if you wish.
After these you can go for lagfix, like changing from rfs to ext4.
Best of luck.
Thanks, so after ive rooted with cf-root. do i have to install a custom rom and custom kernel, both ?
And which is considered the best rom and kernel ?
thanks
regards
Hey Skweezer,
Recommend you start with these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752
and:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
They will tell you about how to connect your phone to your PC (Samsung USB drivers + adb), 3 button mode (how to avoid bricking your phone), backing up important/unrecoverable data (like your EFS block!), and what (in general) needs to be done to flash custom firmware.
After that, you should be able to pretty much recover from any error (like unplugging your phone mid flash). Now you can go ahead and root your phone and start exploring the wonderful word of custom roms! As for which one is the best, that's like asking "how long is a piece of string?" Some people prefer speed and cutting edge, others value battery life and stability, some aim for the middle of the road.
Personally I've tried tegrak kernel and was really impressed with the speed improvement! However, the limited app space finally turned me back to other kernels. I found the rest to be pretty much six in one, half dozen in the other (ie all about the same)... so pick one you like and just go for it... use it for a while and if it's not to your liking, flash again
Just a quick rundown on android for you... firmware 2.1 = Eclair, 2.2 = Frozen Yoghurt, 2.3 = Gingerbread, 3.0 = Honeycomb (tablet only version of android) and 4.0 = Ice Cream Sandwich (unify android for phone/tablet/tv again). There is a HUGE performance increase from going stock 2.1 to 2.3! so even if you just upgrade to Samsung's Gingerbread release (2.3.3 I believe?) you will notice better performance. Doing lagfix, kernel tweaks, etc is just icing on top of the cake. However, you'll find once you start tweaking, you won't go back to stock
Well, easiest way of starting is installing KIES and letting it update your phone. That's the official way and you won't have to bother with details like kernels, roms, bootloaders, etc and won't void your warranty (if that's the case).
You'll probably be left with with some 2.3.x version. Might as well make a backup from your stuff before upgrading, kies sucks in a general way, but may help you with that.
From that point on, if you still want to press further into customization goodness, there are PLENTY to chose from.
There are mainly 2 kinds of roms:
- Samsung based (someone picks up a sock samsung rom and modifies it with scripts, kernels, themes, apps, etc). These are most of the ones you'll find in the development section of this forum.
- not samsung based (like Cyanogen e MIUI). These are built from Google's sources directly and totally skip samsung. Therefore, samsung apps most likely won't work here. Everything else does.
Personally i'd recommend Cyanogen 7.1 stable as your next rom. It's an extremely optimized and wildly popular rom, with plenty of options that you won't find in any stock rom. They have their own forum i recommend you to look up if you're going their way.
Whatever you do, GET AWAY FROM THAT 2.1
Cheers for alll the replies guys. Im first going to just update via kies. To an official 2.3
If im not happy with that then ill try a custom rom and rooting.
If only it was as simple as jailbreaking and iphone. lool
Right, ust updated to latest version via kies. And instantly alot better, smoother. Has some of those things bulit into the system which i always though were missing.
Ill try it for a week, and see if theres anything i need, or think is missing. Then i might go custom. But right now im happy with it on the latest official version.
Thank you guys, i think you've made me sort of like android a bit more.