I've only owned 2 andoirds, mytouch3g and nexus1. Neither had SENSE and i always ran CM w/e version they had.
Now i get a INCS and well CM7 is pretty dated stuff. CM9 isn't 100% where i wanted it to be. A lot of roms had SENSE tied into it and i tried it out. Things are diffrent but i could say good or bad. Oddly enough, they all had better battery life then CM7 and the quatrro ICS rom. Well during my unoffical testing anyways.
Obviously i'm not used SENSE so naturally i dont like it because its just different. Just wanted to know everyone's personal reason for using or not using SENSE.
I see no benefits to Sense. Some people say the widgets are really nice but I hardly use any widgets, so it doesn't really apply to me. When I used to use Sense ROMs, I had customized everything anyway (no Rosie launcher, no Sense lockscreen, all 3rd party apps, etc).
I can see what you mean when you say sense roms seem to have better battery life than cm7. You wouldn't think it but I've found it to be true.
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I can see what you mean when you say sense roms seem to have better battery life than cm7. You wouldn't think it but I've found it to be true.
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coming from CM7 on the n1, i always needed a charger before the end of my work day. If i dont touch the phone at all i go home with about 50%.
So when i first got my INCS I played with sense rom, one each day. Starting with inferno, bliss and then android revolution. I was simply amazed i was going home with 71% battery and HEAVY usage. I read reviews on the phone getting good battery life, so i thought that. I ran CM7 and poop, had to go home with 20% without a charger. I then went into the ICS world, first off was yesterday being virtous quattro. Decent rom but i went home with 46% and light usage. Mainly because youtube doesn't work well.
So i'm kinda in limbo until we get a real ICS version out. Because all ICS roms are not 100% working, CM7 is poor in battery life and lacking items. I'm most likely going to shuffle around the SENSE roms to find something i like.
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coming from CM7 on the n1, i always needed a charger before the end of my work day. If i dont touch the phone at all i go home with about 50%.
So when i first got my INCS I played with sense rom, one each day. Starting with inferno, bliss and then android revolution. I was simply amazed i was going home with 71% battery and HEAVY usage. I read reviews on the phone getting good battery life, so i thought that. I ran CM7 and poop, had to go home with 20% without a charger. I then went into the ICS world, first off was yesterday being virtous quattro. Decent rom but i went home with 46% and light usage. Mainly because youtube doesn't work well.
So i'm kinda in limbo until we get a real ICS version out. Because all ICS roms are not 100% working, CM7 is poor in battery life and lacking items. I'm most likely going to shuffle around the SENSE roms to find something i like.
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That seems very strange. Sense ROMs have never been so good on my IncS. I found that CM7 was very good. I am running MIUI now, and the battery life is amazing on it. With some heavy usage (3G, voice calls, bluetooth transfers and some light gaming), I had 65% left at the end of the day. I tried Virtuous Quattro (RC3 and 4), but it wasn't good though the ROM is pretty decent like you said. With a Sense ROM, I always found the battery to be at 30-40% at the end of the day with just voice calls and some wifi.. 3G drained the battery like a sinkhole.
Only thing I miss from sense was the contact sync with facebook working sooo nicely. Not much more tbh.
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whats controlling it setcpu or the deamon thing.
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whats controlling it setcpu or the deamon thing.
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I use set CPU and incredicontrol for UV but it doesn't really matter as long as your oc app has profile settings.
Yeah when I was running ARHD with the No-Sense script the battery seemed to be the best out of all the ROMs I've tried, better than CM7.1.
Personally, I use Sense ROMs because the video recording just isn't worth using without it, and the reverse tethering feature is handy for me (being stuck on a crappy plan for the time being). If HTC ever release the camera drivers I'd probably stop using Sense and wouldn't look back.
i'm just not a huge fan of the dialer and whole contact views.
Well I had LG P500 (using LG Launcher or Launcher Pro), Nexus S (MIUI) and now the Incredible S (using sense 3.5).
I hat the asop look of Gb android, and I must install lot's of stuff to get things done quick.that changed with MIUI, good looks, lot's of integration out of the box (toggles for everything), but sense is another world, almost every common app seems integrated, they have widgets with a common look,it's fine.
I have a fast phone (maybe not as fast as MIUI or CM,but fast enough), with all of the things that I need/like almost out of the box,and better with good battery life and stability!
Well, after trying a few non-sense ( sounds kinda funny ) ROMs, I am using a sense based one now, and I don't like it one bit. The only reason I am back on this is for the camera. The pics were too grainy for my liking. But this ROM is slow, and since I don't use many widgets, sense offers me very little. And battery life was best on MIUI and CM7.
Almost every other ROM I have used is faster than this.
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I've got to agree with soothsayer. ARHD has very good battery life, and if you've UVed your Rom for stable and dependable performance it sometimes beats CM7, esp if you have some rogue app like Google maps etc, which refuses to be killed and keeps running in the background, eating your battery.
IMO, its not just the bloat in Sense UI, but the other bloat / crapware apps that you have, that ruin your battery. Google apps are the main culprits (maps, gtalk, search, contact sync, calendar sync, g+, FB, Twitter, stocks, auto sync settings & always on data connection) that drain battery. I rip out all these apps / apks and use droidwall to selectively allow only known & trusted apps to connect on data. Sometimes, my ARHD outperforms CM7, esp if I've flashed gapps on CM7.
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I gave sense a fair chance coming from a cm7 device, I used niks rom and arhd and affinity, affinity was the best of em.
But since i am running ICS (icecold sandwich) i would consider it a nightmare to go back to sense.
Sense uses too much memory, runs too much odd services, has a lousy dialer, loads of crap apps one does not use and the most horrible launcher ever (rosie)
Plusses of sense are a great camera app, good lockscreen and a nice clock widget, but thats about it.
I think i can live with the little shortcomings of CM9 for now, (tip: if u use youtube in hq mode it works flawless)
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i'm a sense lover. i tried "senseless" roms many times and always went back quickly.
reasons for going back to sense were:
- i need many different apps to have a powerful homescreen
- visual things (i love the optic)
- dialer, contacts are best imho
- better camera with powerful tools
- little phone things like: vibration when a person accept the call, louder ringtone if the phone is in a bag, ringtone volume decrease if u already grab the phone
- timer, alarms are included
- lockscreen is beauti- and powerful
- best weather app
- htc music is wonderful
for me its a wonderful "all inclusive" package and i hate to install tons of apps to have good functions. sense is a big reason why i bought a htc phone
For me, SENSE has the best Mail for Exchange support.
Also the contacts were nicely merged from many different accounts
Do miss that on ICS
I prefer Sense over AOSP/AOKP roms because of the FriendStream, People and Clock+Weather widgets (also the People app merging with SN links) and the device is just designed to use it with Sense i think. I tried a few other roms but neither seems to be good for me.
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I prefer Sense over AOSP/AOKP roms because of the FriendStream, People and Clock+Weather widgets (also the People app merging with SN links) and the device is just designed to use it with Sense i think. I tried a few other roms but neither seems to be good for me.
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Is there anyway to port the Fully Functional EVO 2.2 Rom to the Hero. I would like to see the hero with a functional 2.2 sense Rom.
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Is there anyway to port the Fully Functional EVO 2.2 Rom to the Hero. I would like to see the hero with a functional 2.2 sense Rom.
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not gonna happen, we are waiting for another phone comparable with the hero to get it then it can be ported. on another note rumor has it sprint will be releasing another hero update in october. keep your fingers crossed that it could be froyo.
This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
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This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
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Right now Hero users have to choose between 2.2 without Sense, or 2.1 with Sense. A lot of people would like 2.2 with Sense.
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Right now Hero users have to choose between 2.2 without Sense, or 2.1 with Sense. A lot of people would like 2.2 with Sense.
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2 months ago I was saying the same thing. Been running CM6 since day 1 and got sense deprived for 2 days. Flashed CM6 back and found some alternatives to the sense look. Now I could care less about sense and any official update. IMHO, my phone runs better, faster and actually looks better without sense. The only good thing that would come of it would be to fix the very few issues that are left in the froyo ROM.
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This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
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lets see...sense and the goodies, less issues maybe?
i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't want it. i bet 90% of you would hop on it once it got rooted.
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lets see...sense and the goodies, less issues maybe?
i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't want it. i bet 90% of you would hop on it once it got rooted.
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I'm just so new that I wasn't even thinking about having the best of both worlds...I would def try that out if it becomes reality
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I would only start using a 2.2 Sense ROM if it had the speed and options like CyanogenMOD has... which will never happen. So I guess I'll never use a 2.2 Sense ROM.
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
I find zenrom and NFX-hero to be the same if not faster than our 2.2 rom. Plus it's sense which means it just looks a billion times better than aosp, plus our phones were meant to have sense on it so naturally the battery life will be a whole lot better. And then you throw froyo in it and get one of our devs to spruce it up then we got ourselves a mini evo. Why have a rom that looks worse no matter what you do to it and gets worse battey life and download 100 different things to make it look kind of like sense and get somewhat better battery life when you can have the real thing? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just throwing in my 2 bills.
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I find zenrom and NFX-hero to be the same if not faster than our 2.2 rom. Plus it's sense which means it just looks a billion times better than aosp, plus our phones were meant to have sense on it so naturally the battery life will be a whole lot better. And then you throw froyo in it and get one of our devs to spruce it up then we got ourselves a mini evo. Why have a rom that looks worse no matter what you do to it and gets worse battey life and download 100 different things to make it look kind of like sense and get somewhat better battery life when you can have the real thing? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just throwing in my 2 bills.
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I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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unCoRrUpTeD said:
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
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awe gee thanks, love you too.
and you got proof that it would run better?
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I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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Well...alrighty then. It sounds like you had a set up issue on your phone because out of my 4 Hero's..the way mine is set up now it flat out runs the stock sense rom's that I have here and has more gas at the end of the day, and everything turned on that I have to have turned off on the stock roms if I expect more than 8 hours of battery life. I haven't tried either of the other 2 roms you are talking about yet,but I might just to see if your just blowing smoke which I believe you are..since you still haven't validated any of you facts opinions yet..
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cp0020 said:
Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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I agree that zenrom and nfx-hero are light-years faster than the stock 2.1 sense rom. I'd even venture to say that its as fast as 2.1 sense can get, its pretty damn snappy. But I hope when you say its faster than CM6, you aren't talking something quantitatively ... because frankly, the statistics don't back up that claim.
And you're right, regular AOSP is plain and boring. The reason it's like that is to start with as clean a slate as possible, and let you theme and mod to the nth degree. You can do the same thing with Sense, but not as easily, and it will never be as lightweight because of the extra HTC apps. Some phones can handle the extra weight, some can't. I guess it comes down to if you want to work to make your Hero uniquely beautiful, or commonly pallatable.
I respect your own opinion (my wife is a Sense lover, so I have this debate constantly, and respect the other side), however recognize the difference between facts and opinions, please. If you want to provide subjective "facts", please call them what FOX News calls them: truth.
I'll just say this, my phone with CM6 was not as fast as it is with Aloysius 2.1. I get higher mflops and quadrant scores with Aloysius. I also get about double the battery life. I think it all depends on the user. I am not saying sense is better, but in my phone (and the way I use it) the sense roms are faster and far less buggy. I like that I only have to flash one file and I am good to go. No flash rom, then gapps, then kernel, then battery tweak, then theme, etc, etc, etc.
I just think the Hero runs better with what it was intended to run. Thats my $0.02 anyways.
Even though Sense looks great compared to vanilla AOSP, visual appeal is not what I look for when comparing the two ROMS. I love how lightweight AOSP is, but wish it came with some of the awesome HTC widgets that are exlusive to Sense. To this day, the HTC keyboard, weather and calendar widgets, and a few other items have no equal in the FREE apps section of the Market.
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I'll just say this, my phone with CM6 was not as fast as it is with Aloysius 2.1. I get higher mflops and quadrant scores with Aloysius. I also get about double the battery life. I think it all depends on the user. I am not saying sense is better, but in my phone (and the way I use it) the sense roms are faster and far less buggy. I like that I only have to flash one file and I am good to go. No flash rom, then gapps, then kernel, then battery tweak, then theme, etc, etc, etc.
I just think the Hero runs better with what it was intended to run. Thats my $0.02 anyways.
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I agree. I tried CM6 and barely noticed a speed difference. I noticed several features and customizations, but nothing special that I can't do on my 2.1 sense rom. Actually, froyo isn't even all that to me. The only thing I want from Froyo is the marking/vending, but other than that there's nothing special like everyone says. BTW, I'm also using Aloysius 2.1 with my own theme I created.
This is also my 2 cents. And I am in no way saying that Aloysius is better than CM6, just that 2.1 sense roms have more of what I prefer.
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Obviously you've never used Zen-ROM before. It is MUCH much faster than CM6 ever was for me. I've had zero lag and fantastic battery life.
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I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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Yeah, because no one else in your house is using a rooted Hero with something like Zen-ROM on it..
I charged my phone today around 6 in the evening to 100%. It's now 5am and I STILL have over 70% battery life left, after using it pretty heavily with GMaps. CM6 never made it that far for me.
Hi everyone. I would just like some suggestions ( with links if possible ) of any good ROMs out there. I've used a few before, CM7's, CoreDroid's, the ICS ROM, Android Revolution and Nik Triity sensation XL's. So if anyone knows any other cool ROM that's fast and has a good battery life, do share! THANK YOU!
If your top priority is battery life, there's no question that cm7 is as good as it gets. The best way to find roms is to go through the development forum and just keep browsing. The most active topics are the most frequently updated, while there are still good ones to find two or three pages deep. You will not find anything here that you cannot find there
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Miui US for the aesthetics
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Miui US for the aesthetics
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+1 for MIUI. It's smooth, looks amazing, has well integrated features and paired up with a decent kernel gives excellent battery life to.
Basically if you're rooted, you're not stuck with one ROM anyway. Just give them all a go, and pick your favourite
I advise you Virtuous Affinity, if you prefer the original Sense look, and still has good battery life with Juice Defender.
I installed MIUI ICS v4 beta ROM, and it's great so far. Before I've been on older development MIUI. Try it I definetely recommend it
Virtuos affinity .. not a big fan of sense so just flash no sense script and enjoy the better battery life ..
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You can see a list of ROMs with their relevant links at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136463
Few of the good ones with HTC Sense (I prefer sense) are Android Revolution HD, Virtuos Affinity and Niks Trinity.
As mentioned above if you are rooted you can try them all Use titanium backup to backup your stuff on sd card before you start flashing else you will loose your data.
Thanks everyone! Will definitely be trying MIUI and the other ROMs mentioned. Cheers!
Another quick question tho, can anyone tell me if there are any ICS ROM now which is good? Good in the sense that everything works because I think one of them has the camera or camcorder not working? Not sure which but yeah.. Would love to try out an ICS ROM which works beautifully
Another vote for CM7, I am using it on my HTC Inc S and loving it.
CM7 is definitely a good choice if you don't care much about the UI looks. Htc sense is a resource hog but hey it makes your phone so much more beautiful ;-)
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Well CM7 is good, but it has its drawback like the low volume in call (compared to sense ROM) and worse camera driver. I'm rocking ARHD with ROM cleaner so I can keep apps I like and remove everything else that makes it slow. Using it with ADW Ex, smooth like butter. Best of both worlds lol.
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Well CM7 is good, but it has its drawback like the low volume in call (compared to sense ROM) and worse camera driver. I'm rocking ARHD with ROM cleaner so I can keep apps I like and remove everything else that makes it slow. Using it with ADW Ex, smooth like butter. Best of both worlds lol.
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tiamat kernels have in call audio boost.
When I got this phone I told myself I wasn't going to be a flashaholic. I'm no newcomer to root or custom rims but the vivid isn't that bad. Almost doesn't need to be cleaned up and OC'd. But the little things are getting to me.
1. Choppy scrolling
2. Choppy Rosie
3. Small lag with daily use
I don't want to sacrafice the good battery life i have been having.
What are your opinions and what Rom should I flash for stability and smooth scrolling.
If the majority doesn't seem to think it's worth it I'll stay stock. Thanks for all of your opinions
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I'd say it's worth it. My battery still has a good 20-30% battery by the end of the day.
I can't say much about which ROM to get, considering I've only been able to get the VjRaider to work, which I love by the way.
Those choppy things were bugging me as well, VjRaider fixed 'em up. Along with some pretty cool features.
I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
In a word, Yes
My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
If battery life is a cocern for you, rooting lets you get rid of the juice hogging bloatware. Wild Childs Illuminati series are great roms. He has Sense 3.0 and 3.5 versions, stock kernels, oc kernels and voltage controllers. I you like the stock look, thats the way to go. Better than stock battery life and moar speedz.
oooh, I forgot also, this was WELL worth it for me, because I can't stand the stupid battery meter that sense has, I like having the percentage there, and after I rooted I could edit that then
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I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
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Check out the app MyBackup by Rerware. I would post a link for you, but I don't have enough posts yet.
You can backup your system configurations, all the apps you have, what all your pages look like on your home screen, pictures, almost everything. And the best part about it is that you can do it online, or onto your SD card. Makes everything so much easier .
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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davidcampbell said:
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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That's what I am afraid of.
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That's what I am afraid of.
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Don't be afraid to get your hand dirty. Most of the custom ROMs available now are already in its 4th or 5th edition, at this point they are all pretty much very very stable. Think of it this way, whatever it is you like about your phone's current form, custom ROM does EVERYTHING better. It is smoother, faster, more stable (I used to get random reboots 3 times a week on stock ROM, not to mention the stupid carrier bloatwares and CIQ) and the ability to control the power usage through cpu control.
Trust me. It's not even close....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431053
im very happy with that one very fluid after draining the battery than fully charging im getting 20 hours of real used (over 300 texts an hour of calling, internet browsing reading Engadget app, about 30 emails, and 10 pictures)
i do get random reboots about once every two days or so tho
so if you want something more stock tho
i hear this one is good
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here is what I did to satisfy my lust for now, keeping in mind that I get no random reboots and I don't seem to have any issues with my phone at all.
I figured there would be some level of erasing my data so I wanted to get rooting out of the way when I first got the phone, within about 20 minutes of ownership I had unlocked the bootloader (which cleared personal data), installed CWM and taken a backup of my stock rom, I then applied the root update through cwm to get root, I am still running the stock rom and I can squeeze 24 hours out of my phone which is pretty impressive vs my htc hd2, I'm in a 3G area so I havent really used my 4G radio yet.
Then I went about installing an update to get my percentage on the battery instead of the stupid battery icon with no percentage, and replaced the home screen with ADW.Launcher and the lockscreen with WidgetLocker, and I'm pretty happy with the speed and capabilities of the phone now, I'm content to wait until ICS I think as I have not really had any stability issues with this setup, everything just works, one annoyance is there is a little lag on scrolling things, something I see is mentioned as fixed in the ROMS... so far its not a big deal for me, I think maybe if ICS cm9 isn't out by march then I will look at flashing a custom rom at that point "
I do really miss the polish of the MIUI rom I had on my HD2, MIUI did some amazing ui stuff and everything was where it needed to be... even simple things like a TOGGLE FOR WIFI in the notification bar... it seems extremely weird for that to not be there lol.
You watch, someone will reply now and say that a particular rom has that feature and I'll be like Fuuuuuuu and flashing a new ROM before tomorow... I can feel the urge to flash rising hahaha
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My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
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Completely agree, I couldn't go back to stock, the speed is far superior, I've tried a couple of Roms, I've just flashed vjraider, great Rom! And I foresee an even better future! Thanks devs,
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Personally, I find rooting to be worth it. First and foremost, it is the most in depth procedure of customization you can do to your phone to make it "yours". The speed and battery increases are pretty well worth it as well. I am currently running HoliRaider 1.5a with no problems whatsoever. Speed is amazing and I haven't had any stability issues. Considering HTC has allowed for the bootloader to be unlocked, most of the difficulty that comes with rooting has been taken out. Take a chance! Just follow instructions and read them twice before doing anything major, you'll be alright.
Root is a must for me... All the bloatware they put on my phone i had to get off xD my OCD kicks in and i need a way to delete EVERYTHING i can and still make the phone functional haha
I use WCX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521 3.5 and with his newest build I have been getting no reboots at 1.5ghz and its running like a charm
Battery life is a lot better now thank goodness! and I forgot to quote whoever said this but I too cant wait for something like CM7 or CM9 (not miui I hate it) Sense itself is too much for me though its beautiful its not needed I'd rather have INCREDIBLE speed than looks So im sticking with WCX untill CM9 becomes doable or they quickly get CM7 ready to go
Hey guys, I've been changing roms alot recently and was wanting one that's nice and fast and has decent battery life.At the moment I have ARHD as I hear quite alot of good thoughts of it, but I think it's pretty average. It's slow and choppy. I've tried a reflash and I got rid of everything on my SD (I knew it wouldn't work, but thought I'd give it a shot)
So yeah, thoughts? Preferably one which has a kernel which supports OC'ing. Needs to be fast and nice to use, thanks all
This should really have been posted in General!!!! But according to me, try Virtuous Infinity (Still in Alpha but every feature except WiFi Hotspot Works) or try CoolDroid Revolution S by SurajKumar. If you want to try Virtuous Infinity: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30873-virtuous-infinity-v1300-alpha1-general/
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This should really have been posted in General!!!! But according to me, try Virtuous Infinity (Still in Alpha but every feature except WiFi Hotspot Works) or try CoolDroid Revolution S by SurajKumar. If you want to try Virtuous Infinity: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30873-virtuous-infinity-v1300-alpha1-general/
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Lol yeah, just noticed I put it in the wrong forum, if a mod/admin sees this, please move it
And thanks for the suggestions!
Ice Cold Sandwich 8.3 - You will appreciate the potential and amazing-ness of Android since you have no Sense and its an AOKP/AOSP. Battery will last for 2 days minimum with v4 Kernel. I'd say try it out, you won't be disappointed...you'll find that Sense is a waste of space and battery.
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Ice Cold Sandwich 8.3 - You will appreciate the potential and amazing-ness of Android since you have no Sense and its an AOKP/AOSP. Battery will last for 2 days minimum with v4 Kernel. I'd say try it out, you won't be disappointed...you'll find that Sense is a waste of space and battery.
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Thanks! Will try this one out aswell, is everything working? I used to run version 7 or so and it didn't have a working Camcorder and stuff.
TaLEntZ96 said:
Thanks! Will try this one out aswell, is everything working? I used to run version 7 or so and it didn't have a working Camcorder and stuff.
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Most of the times you can't record video, sometime it does but sometimes it record videos with strange lines.
I'll chip in with an opinion...
CM7.2 RC3!
I've been trying all the other roms that come out just for fun and some of them really are great but I can't help myself - I keep returning to CM7.2 after a week or so of each... It just works perfectly in every way, it's fast, stable and has a great battery life. Can't really ask for more. Second place is The Incredible 1.1 but that's not a surprise seeing as it is a mod of CM - the only thing not so great is the use of Launcher Pro instead of ADW but I guess that is down to personal choice.
Anyway, in the unlikely event of you not having tried CM7.2 I'd say fire it up
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I'll chip in with an opinion...
CM7.2 RC3!
I've been trying all the other roms that come out just for fun and some of them really are great but I can't help myself - I keep returning to CM7.2 after a week or so of each... It just works perfectly in every way, it's fast, stable and has a great battery life. Can't really ask for more. Second place is The Incredible 1.1 but that's not a surprise seeing as it is a mod of CM - the only thing not so great is the use of Launcher Pro instead of ADW but I guess that is down to personal choice.
Anyway, in the unlikely event of you not having tried CM7.2 I'd say fire it up
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Buddy I am holding my horses for CM9
Incredible2011 said:
Ice Cold Sandwich 8.3 - You will appreciate the potential and amazing-ness of Android since you have no Sense and its an AOKP/AOSP. Battery will last for 2 days minimum with v4 Kernel. I'd say try it out, you won't be disappointed...you'll find that Sense is a waste of space and battery.
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I read that a lot here.. that sense is a waste of battery but In my experience it has been the opposite. I had Ice Cold Sandwich for a few days and the battery life was terrible... Tried all the kernels with it...stock, tiamats, v3, v4 etc but no luck..changed radio to the latest but still the same battery drain problem... got frustrated so switched to sense with ARHD ..battery life way bettter..the best battery life i got was with NIK's trinity rom... but wanted ics so opted for arhd....
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I read that a lot here.. that sense is a waste of battery but In my experience it has been the opposite. I had Ice Cold Sandwich for a few days and the battery life was terrible... Tried all the kernels with it...stock, tiamats, v3, v4 etc but no luck..changed radio to the latest but still the same battery drain problem... got frustrated so switched to sense with ARHD ..battery life way bettter..the best battery life i got was with NIK's trinity rom... but wanted ics so opted for arhd....
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Don't know why you found battery life terrible...sometimes it's also a matter of what you like really...but once you try open Android you'll start fully appreciating it and start hating Sense from my experience...different people different opinions though.
The incredible 1.1: fully stable and using supercharger actually slows it down. It's lightning fast after install.
i too found that with the IceCold series up until 7.2/7.3 battery life was horrible. Sense roms seem to give a very good battery life lasting me well over a day. and i prefer the sense ui way better than stock aosp/aokp roms.
Well I'm back with ice cold and it is great! Haven't used it since 7.0 or somwthinf,... its just so much better compared to sense. Its faster and looks way nicer. Only thing is mms doesn't work. *sad face*
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In IceCold 8.4 there's a solved MMS/SMS issue - at leat the one I had and I was one of the first people who experienced the problem in the first place. Plus if the automatic settings don't work out, the manual override is working without a glitch .... So it's fully working ROM for now but depends on how you install it/download it and other stuff.... It's all written in the thread but so far there's no other ROM that's as fast and as stable for me. Battery wise - I got through a full day of at least an hour talk time, browsing, WiFi moderate usage and I still have at least 50% when I get home. And my phone is on 3G/H mode all the time - on 2G/EDGE - it lasts two days :good: If that's bad you need Motorola Razr MAXX with the 3,3Ah battery
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I'll chip in with an opinion...
CM7.2 RC3!
I've been trying all the other roms that come out just for fun and some of them really are great but I can't help myself - I keep returning to CM7.2 after a week or so of each... It just works perfectly in every way, it's fast, stable and has a great battery life. Can't really ask for more. Second place is The Incredible 1.1 but that's not a surprise seeing as it is a mod of CM - the only thing not so great is the use of Launcher Pro instead of ADW but I guess that is down to personal choice.
Anyway, in the unlikely event of you not having tried CM7.2 I'd say fire it up
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make full backup current rom,backup apps with titanium backup.
then try Ice cold sanwich with full wipe,restore apps .
u may change your opinion.
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Don't know why you found battery life terrible...sometimes it's also a matter of what you like really...but once you try open Android you'll start fully appreciating it and start hating Sense from my experience...different people different opinions though.
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Dont get me wrong.... I love the openness and customizability of asop aokp roms. But right now they lack the stability that i desire.
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My own choice,you should try WE_WANT_ICS_V3_By_Nikhil007. I used it for a long time,stable,fast,smooth,no FC or Auto Restart and good battery life. I upgraded to V4,but I'm back to V3 now. ^_^
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make full backup current rom,backup apps with titanium backup.
then try Ice cold sanwich with full wipe,restore apps .
u may change your opinion.
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Already tried it and it is great, seriously. That and playground are the best ICS roms I've tried but I still found myself back on CM7 after a week or so... Probably because of the reason below:
samgurung said:
Dont get me wrong.... I love the openness and customizability of asop aokp roms. But right now they lack the stability that i desire.
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Apart from CM7.2! As it's GB based it is rock solid and everything works flawlessly. I use maps a lot and MMS too a bit and the compass works perfectly in maps and MMS is not an issue. No FCs, no compatibility issues (the earlier ICS roms seemed to be incompatible with some apps but that seems to be resolved completely now) and just no worries at all.
It'll be a different story once the devs get hold of the kernal source of course... once that happens I'll be grabbing CM9 so fast it'll get whiplash!
The only gripe i have with AOSP/AOKP is the camera.
It just cant churn out the same quality that the sense roms can
I'm looking for a phone to upgrade from my current HTC Desire HD. I started a couple of years ago with Sense, then reluctantly went to stock Android. Now I can't go back to Sense and a big reason is battery life. These smart phones after a year, it's all about reducing lag and increasing battery time.
So now I'm on an unofficial CM10.
Well if I get an HTC One, will I just install CM again? Is that what people do, or do you make use of HTC's software? I know how it's a personal preference, but I'm wondering if the latest Sense is so good people are sticking with it. Reviews say it's less bloat.
And if people are just going to a stock Android Rom, is it better to get this phone or the GS4 to load a stock Rom?
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I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.
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I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.
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100% agreed. I came from AOKP on my S3 (I can't stand touchwiz). I purchased the One and absolutely love sense 5. I don't believe I'll switch back. Especially since some features won't work like the beats driver and I've also heard some flaws with the camera on AOSP ROMs.
If you are worried about battery, quite frankly you shouldn't be purchasing a mini computer. Battery life is great on this phone for how powerful it is. While at work I turn on Power Saver mode and have my data connections turned off on sleep mode. When I'm off 9 hours later I'm still at 70%. If I keep everything running I'm at about 20% by the end of the night when I plug it in.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.
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+1 sense5 is smooth as butter it doesnt lag on my phone at all
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Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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Hmm.. not sure what greenify is, but I can tell you what Power Saver is. When turned on it conserves power by limiting the speed of the cpu, turns down screen brightness, disables haptic feedback, and disables data while on sleep mode. Pretty handy in my opinion. =)
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I came from the N4 running CM 10.1 and I find too sense 5 a big surprise. It's running very smooth and battery life is quite the same with my N4. I plan on staying on stock and unrooted for a while.
Power saver is not like greenify, it reduces CPU speed and even brightness if the battery level is low.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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from what i can tell,
greenify basically ensures that apps are fully unloaded when you lock your phone... keeps the naughty apps in line.
the htc power save option basically does the usual limit screen brightness as well as cpu, turn off haptic feedback and disables data during sleep mode.
the disabling of data is a little bit of an issue for me, since i use cerberusapp and it won't let me connect (obviously)
things still sync however no longer in real time (i think it enables data on a pre-defined interval to update sync).
the good news is that you can disable these options individually so yeah i have all the power save options enabled apart from data.
i too went from a cm10 device to sense 5. i'm loving the new fresh feel, however I'm missing the notification toggles badly.
Before the HTC One, I've never owned a HTC device before and therefore never used Sense before.
Before I got this phone, I checked out some of the reviews and even done research on previous HTC models just to learn a little bit more about HTC in general.
I'd honestly read a lot of bad reviews regarding previous iterations of Sense, with the main complaints being against Sense 4.
As I'm not the kind of guy who bases my decisions on reviews they didn't stop me wanting to get the One. Afterall, even if I didn't like Sense 5 I could always flash an AOSP ROM or use a custom launcher anyway. I will admit, however, that I've got no complaints whatsoever regarding Sense 5 as it is great.
Having said that, I am currently using Apex launcher but that's just so that I can customize my homescreen more so than I can with the stock UI.
Some great replies guys, thanks. With my Desire HD, I used the ARHD rom for a while, so I stuck with the stock Sense experience, but I was rooted. I tried many times to go to CM, etc, but I always came back to Sense. I loved the Sense apps, email, etc. But eventually I had to switch because of lag. And then months later when I tried to go back to Sense, I couldn't..too slow.
So it sounds promising to me that I can basically get the HTC One, and go with the stock (but rooted of course) experience for a while. And with the specs of this phone, I'll be able to move on to the latest and great (Key Lime Pie) when it comes out.