I'm looking for a phone to upgrade from my current HTC Desire HD. I started a couple of years ago with Sense, then reluctantly went to stock Android. Now I can't go back to Sense and a big reason is battery life. These smart phones after a year, it's all about reducing lag and increasing battery time.
So now I'm on an unofficial CM10.
Well if I get an HTC One, will I just install CM again? Is that what people do, or do you make use of HTC's software? I know how it's a personal preference, but I'm wondering if the latest Sense is so good people are sticking with it. Reviews say it's less bloat.
And if people are just going to a stock Android Rom, is it better to get this phone or the GS4 to load a stock Rom?
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I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.
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I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.
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100% agreed. I came from AOKP on my S3 (I can't stand touchwiz). I purchased the One and absolutely love sense 5. I don't believe I'll switch back. Especially since some features won't work like the beats driver and I've also heard some flaws with the camera on AOSP ROMs.
If you are worried about battery, quite frankly you shouldn't be purchasing a mini computer. Battery life is great on this phone for how powerful it is. While at work I turn on Power Saver mode and have my data connections turned off on sleep mode. When I'm off 9 hours later I'm still at 70%. If I keep everything running I'm at about 20% by the end of the night when I plug it in.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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avplaya said:
I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.
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+1 sense5 is smooth as butter it doesnt lag on my phone at all
asif9t9 said:
Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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Hmm.. not sure what greenify is, but I can tell you what Power Saver is. When turned on it conserves power by limiting the speed of the cpu, turns down screen brightness, disables haptic feedback, and disables data while on sleep mode. Pretty handy in my opinion. =)
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I came from the N4 running CM 10.1 and I find too sense 5 a big surprise. It's running very smooth and battery life is quite the same with my N4. I plan on staying on stock and unrooted for a while.
Power saver is not like greenify, it reduces CPU speed and even brightness if the battery level is low.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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from what i can tell,
greenify basically ensures that apps are fully unloaded when you lock your phone... keeps the naughty apps in line.
the htc power save option basically does the usual limit screen brightness as well as cpu, turn off haptic feedback and disables data during sleep mode.
the disabling of data is a little bit of an issue for me, since i use cerberusapp and it won't let me connect (obviously)
things still sync however no longer in real time (i think it enables data on a pre-defined interval to update sync).
the good news is that you can disable these options individually so yeah i have all the power save options enabled apart from data.
i too went from a cm10 device to sense 5. i'm loving the new fresh feel, however I'm missing the notification toggles badly.
Before the HTC One, I've never owned a HTC device before and therefore never used Sense before.
Before I got this phone, I checked out some of the reviews and even done research on previous HTC models just to learn a little bit more about HTC in general.
I'd honestly read a lot of bad reviews regarding previous iterations of Sense, with the main complaints being against Sense 4.
As I'm not the kind of guy who bases my decisions on reviews they didn't stop me wanting to get the One. Afterall, even if I didn't like Sense 5 I could always flash an AOSP ROM or use a custom launcher anyway. I will admit, however, that I've got no complaints whatsoever regarding Sense 5 as it is great.
Having said that, I am currently using Apex launcher but that's just so that I can customize my homescreen more so than I can with the stock UI.
Some great replies guys, thanks. With my Desire HD, I used the ARHD rom for a while, so I stuck with the stock Sense experience, but I was rooted. I tried many times to go to CM, etc, but I always came back to Sense. I loved the Sense apps, email, etc. But eventually I had to switch because of lag. And then months later when I tried to go back to Sense, I couldn't..too slow.
So it sounds promising to me that I can basically get the HTC One, and go with the stock (but rooted of course) experience for a while. And with the specs of this phone, I'll be able to move on to the latest and great (Key Lime Pie) when it comes out.
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When I got this phone I told myself I wasn't going to be a flashaholic. I'm no newcomer to root or custom rims but the vivid isn't that bad. Almost doesn't need to be cleaned up and OC'd. But the little things are getting to me.
1. Choppy scrolling
2. Choppy Rosie
3. Small lag with daily use
I don't want to sacrafice the good battery life i have been having.
What are your opinions and what Rom should I flash for stability and smooth scrolling.
If the majority doesn't seem to think it's worth it I'll stay stock. Thanks for all of your opinions
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I'd say it's worth it. My battery still has a good 20-30% battery by the end of the day.
I can't say much about which ROM to get, considering I've only been able to get the VjRaider to work, which I love by the way.
Those choppy things were bugging me as well, VjRaider fixed 'em up. Along with some pretty cool features.
I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
In a word, Yes
My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
If battery life is a cocern for you, rooting lets you get rid of the juice hogging bloatware. Wild Childs Illuminati series are great roms. He has Sense 3.0 and 3.5 versions, stock kernels, oc kernels and voltage controllers. I you like the stock look, thats the way to go. Better than stock battery life and moar speedz.
oooh, I forgot also, this was WELL worth it for me, because I can't stand the stupid battery meter that sense has, I like having the percentage there, and after I rooted I could edit that then
davidcampbell said:
I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
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Check out the app MyBackup by Rerware. I would post a link for you, but I don't have enough posts yet.
You can backup your system configurations, all the apps you have, what all your pages look like on your home screen, pictures, almost everything. And the best part about it is that you can do it online, or onto your SD card. Makes everything so much easier .
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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davidcampbell said:
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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That's what I am afraid of.
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That's what I am afraid of.
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Don't be afraid to get your hand dirty. Most of the custom ROMs available now are already in its 4th or 5th edition, at this point they are all pretty much very very stable. Think of it this way, whatever it is you like about your phone's current form, custom ROM does EVERYTHING better. It is smoother, faster, more stable (I used to get random reboots 3 times a week on stock ROM, not to mention the stupid carrier bloatwares and CIQ) and the ability to control the power usage through cpu control.
Trust me. It's not even close....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431053
im very happy with that one very fluid after draining the battery than fully charging im getting 20 hours of real used (over 300 texts an hour of calling, internet browsing reading Engadget app, about 30 emails, and 10 pictures)
i do get random reboots about once every two days or so tho
so if you want something more stock tho
i hear this one is good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521
here is what I did to satisfy my lust for now, keeping in mind that I get no random reboots and I don't seem to have any issues with my phone at all.
I figured there would be some level of erasing my data so I wanted to get rooting out of the way when I first got the phone, within about 20 minutes of ownership I had unlocked the bootloader (which cleared personal data), installed CWM and taken a backup of my stock rom, I then applied the root update through cwm to get root, I am still running the stock rom and I can squeeze 24 hours out of my phone which is pretty impressive vs my htc hd2, I'm in a 3G area so I havent really used my 4G radio yet.
Then I went about installing an update to get my percentage on the battery instead of the stupid battery icon with no percentage, and replaced the home screen with ADW.Launcher and the lockscreen with WidgetLocker, and I'm pretty happy with the speed and capabilities of the phone now, I'm content to wait until ICS I think as I have not really had any stability issues with this setup, everything just works, one annoyance is there is a little lag on scrolling things, something I see is mentioned as fixed in the ROMS... so far its not a big deal for me, I think maybe if ICS cm9 isn't out by march then I will look at flashing a custom rom at that point "
I do really miss the polish of the MIUI rom I had on my HD2, MIUI did some amazing ui stuff and everything was where it needed to be... even simple things like a TOGGLE FOR WIFI in the notification bar... it seems extremely weird for that to not be there lol.
You watch, someone will reply now and say that a particular rom has that feature and I'll be like Fuuuuuuu and flashing a new ROM before tomorow... I can feel the urge to flash rising hahaha
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My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
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Completely agree, I couldn't go back to stock, the speed is far superior, I've tried a couple of Roms, I've just flashed vjraider, great Rom! And I foresee an even better future! Thanks devs,
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Personally, I find rooting to be worth it. First and foremost, it is the most in depth procedure of customization you can do to your phone to make it "yours". The speed and battery increases are pretty well worth it as well. I am currently running HoliRaider 1.5a with no problems whatsoever. Speed is amazing and I haven't had any stability issues. Considering HTC has allowed for the bootloader to be unlocked, most of the difficulty that comes with rooting has been taken out. Take a chance! Just follow instructions and read them twice before doing anything major, you'll be alright.
Root is a must for me... All the bloatware they put on my phone i had to get off xD my OCD kicks in and i need a way to delete EVERYTHING i can and still make the phone functional haha
I use WCX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521 3.5 and with his newest build I have been getting no reboots at 1.5ghz and its running like a charm
Battery life is a lot better now thank goodness! and I forgot to quote whoever said this but I too cant wait for something like CM7 or CM9 (not miui I hate it) Sense itself is too much for me though its beautiful its not needed I'd rather have INCREDIBLE speed than looks So im sticking with WCX untill CM9 becomes doable or they quickly get CM7 ready to go
I've only owned 2 andoirds, mytouch3g and nexus1. Neither had SENSE and i always ran CM w/e version they had.
Now i get a INCS and well CM7 is pretty dated stuff. CM9 isn't 100% where i wanted it to be. A lot of roms had SENSE tied into it and i tried it out. Things are diffrent but i could say good or bad. Oddly enough, they all had better battery life then CM7 and the quatrro ICS rom. Well during my unoffical testing anyways.
Obviously i'm not used SENSE so naturally i dont like it because its just different. Just wanted to know everyone's personal reason for using or not using SENSE.
I see no benefits to Sense. Some people say the widgets are really nice but I hardly use any widgets, so it doesn't really apply to me. When I used to use Sense ROMs, I had customized everything anyway (no Rosie launcher, no Sense lockscreen, all 3rd party apps, etc).
I can see what you mean when you say sense roms seem to have better battery life than cm7. You wouldn't think it but I've found it to be true.
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I can see what you mean when you say sense roms seem to have better battery life than cm7. You wouldn't think it but I've found it to be true.
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coming from CM7 on the n1, i always needed a charger before the end of my work day. If i dont touch the phone at all i go home with about 50%.
So when i first got my INCS I played with sense rom, one each day. Starting with inferno, bliss and then android revolution. I was simply amazed i was going home with 71% battery and HEAVY usage. I read reviews on the phone getting good battery life, so i thought that. I ran CM7 and poop, had to go home with 20% without a charger. I then went into the ICS world, first off was yesterday being virtous quattro. Decent rom but i went home with 46% and light usage. Mainly because youtube doesn't work well.
So i'm kinda in limbo until we get a real ICS version out. Because all ICS roms are not 100% working, CM7 is poor in battery life and lacking items. I'm most likely going to shuffle around the SENSE roms to find something i like.
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coming from CM7 on the n1, i always needed a charger before the end of my work day. If i dont touch the phone at all i go home with about 50%.
So when i first got my INCS I played with sense rom, one each day. Starting with inferno, bliss and then android revolution. I was simply amazed i was going home with 71% battery and HEAVY usage. I read reviews on the phone getting good battery life, so i thought that. I ran CM7 and poop, had to go home with 20% without a charger. I then went into the ICS world, first off was yesterday being virtous quattro. Decent rom but i went home with 46% and light usage. Mainly because youtube doesn't work well.
So i'm kinda in limbo until we get a real ICS version out. Because all ICS roms are not 100% working, CM7 is poor in battery life and lacking items. I'm most likely going to shuffle around the SENSE roms to find something i like.
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That seems very strange. Sense ROMs have never been so good on my IncS. I found that CM7 was very good. I am running MIUI now, and the battery life is amazing on it. With some heavy usage (3G, voice calls, bluetooth transfers and some light gaming), I had 65% left at the end of the day. I tried Virtuous Quattro (RC3 and 4), but it wasn't good though the ROM is pretty decent like you said. With a Sense ROM, I always found the battery to be at 30-40% at the end of the day with just voice calls and some wifi.. 3G drained the battery like a sinkhole.
Only thing I miss from sense was the contact sync with facebook working sooo nicely. Not much more tbh.
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whats controlling it setcpu or the deamon thing.
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whats controlling it setcpu or the deamon thing.
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I use set CPU and incredicontrol for UV but it doesn't really matter as long as your oc app has profile settings.
Yeah when I was running ARHD with the No-Sense script the battery seemed to be the best out of all the ROMs I've tried, better than CM7.1.
Personally, I use Sense ROMs because the video recording just isn't worth using without it, and the reverse tethering feature is handy for me (being stuck on a crappy plan for the time being). If HTC ever release the camera drivers I'd probably stop using Sense and wouldn't look back.
i'm just not a huge fan of the dialer and whole contact views.
Well I had LG P500 (using LG Launcher or Launcher Pro), Nexus S (MIUI) and now the Incredible S (using sense 3.5).
I hat the asop look of Gb android, and I must install lot's of stuff to get things done quick.that changed with MIUI, good looks, lot's of integration out of the box (toggles for everything), but sense is another world, almost every common app seems integrated, they have widgets with a common look,it's fine.
I have a fast phone (maybe not as fast as MIUI or CM,but fast enough), with all of the things that I need/like almost out of the box,and better with good battery life and stability!
Well, after trying a few non-sense ( sounds kinda funny ) ROMs, I am using a sense based one now, and I don't like it one bit. The only reason I am back on this is for the camera. The pics were too grainy for my liking. But this ROM is slow, and since I don't use many widgets, sense offers me very little. And battery life was best on MIUI and CM7.
Almost every other ROM I have used is faster than this.
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I've got to agree with soothsayer. ARHD has very good battery life, and if you've UVed your Rom for stable and dependable performance it sometimes beats CM7, esp if you have some rogue app like Google maps etc, which refuses to be killed and keeps running in the background, eating your battery.
IMO, its not just the bloat in Sense UI, but the other bloat / crapware apps that you have, that ruin your battery. Google apps are the main culprits (maps, gtalk, search, contact sync, calendar sync, g+, FB, Twitter, stocks, auto sync settings & always on data connection) that drain battery. I rip out all these apps / apks and use droidwall to selectively allow only known & trusted apps to connect on data. Sometimes, my ARHD outperforms CM7, esp if I've flashed gapps on CM7.
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I gave sense a fair chance coming from a cm7 device, I used niks rom and arhd and affinity, affinity was the best of em.
But since i am running ICS (icecold sandwich) i would consider it a nightmare to go back to sense.
Sense uses too much memory, runs too much odd services, has a lousy dialer, loads of crap apps one does not use and the most horrible launcher ever (rosie)
Plusses of sense are a great camera app, good lockscreen and a nice clock widget, but thats about it.
I think i can live with the little shortcomings of CM9 for now, (tip: if u use youtube in hq mode it works flawless)
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i'm a sense lover. i tried "senseless" roms many times and always went back quickly.
reasons for going back to sense were:
- i need many different apps to have a powerful homescreen
- visual things (i love the optic)
- dialer, contacts are best imho
- better camera with powerful tools
- little phone things like: vibration when a person accept the call, louder ringtone if the phone is in a bag, ringtone volume decrease if u already grab the phone
- timer, alarms are included
- lockscreen is beauti- and powerful
- best weather app
- htc music is wonderful
for me its a wonderful "all inclusive" package and i hate to install tons of apps to have good functions. sense is a big reason why i bought a htc phone
For me, SENSE has the best Mail for Exchange support.
Also the contacts were nicely merged from many different accounts
Do miss that on ICS
I prefer Sense over AOSP/AOKP roms because of the FriendStream, People and Clock+Weather widgets (also the People app merging with SN links) and the device is just designed to use it with Sense i think. I tried a few other roms but neither seems to be good for me.
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I prefer Sense over AOSP/AOKP roms because of the FriendStream, People and Clock+Weather widgets (also the People app merging with SN links) and the device is just designed to use it with Sense i think. I tried a few other roms but neither seems to be good for me.
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Kind of funny but I've been thinking about this. 4.2 is almost an update designed to make bare bones aosp android better, and does almost nothing for a phone with a manufacturer skin. 4.1 would be great on this phone with project butter, better notifications, and Google now, but here's the rundown on 4.2 features:
Better camera app: sense 3.6 already has a nicer one than aosp. No photosphere but its kinda of a gimmick "look what my phone can do" feature anyway. The stock camera app has always sucked until 4.2 and the update finally brings it up to par with custom ui's, but does nothing for us.
Improved lockscreen with widget support : sense pretty much has the best lockscreen with shortcut support and notification widgets that appear through sense apps. Custom widget support would be nice but aosp still doesn't have shortcut support.
Gesture typing: yep, we got it on the stock "touch input" keyboard. next
Quick settings : yep sense has that too
Tv out support : while we don't have miracast support, about every htc device post evo 4G has either an hdmi port or mhl support. I'm sure the vivid is no different, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Better alarm clock app : the aosp alarm clock app has always been an after thought until 4.2,however ui's like sense and touchwiz have always had really nice alarm clock apps and the 4.2 app really just brings stock aosp up to par with the ui's
User profiles: this feature is tablet only and disabled on the phones so the vivid wouldn't get it anyway.
I think that's about it. So there you have it! I really kind of believe 4.2 is catered to nexus devices, and I honestly could see a lot of manufacturers passing on this as if they do update, then it'll be little more than a version number change. If you're in the market for a non nexus phone and it has 4.1, then your already up to date.
Just something I thought about. Thoughts?
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And before anyone calls me out, I got a nexus 7, so I use 4.2 on a daily basis, so I'm not just posting on stuff I've read lol.
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I have a nexus 7 also and personally I'd like to see 4.2 on the vivid because I HATE sense.... Didn't realize how much I didn't like it until I played with pure android. But I'm guessing that if we can't get CM10 to work on this phone, there'd be no reason to worry about 4.2 or not!
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Yeah I'm not to keen on sense either, thought it was awesome until I got a phone with it and had to use it every day. If by some Longshot we get jellybean, I hope it comes with Sense 4+ and not the underwhelming sense 3.6 that's on this phone now. From what I've seen sense 4 is world's ahead of what we have.
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Once cm10 is completed bring 4.2 will be easy as there isn't much difference between 4.1.2 and 4.3 when it comes to making things work
Anyways I love the 4.2 camera...and I think I read others here on the vivid are able to use it on ICS....
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Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Lol I feel the same...but since I have the phone and at least somewhat knowledge on this stuff I figured I might as well try my best...that being said I hate HTC and will never get another one...this vivid ruined it for me. Like you say, stock wise this phone is great...but that's it. Once you go into the world of custom ROMs this phone takes a major dive to nowhere :/
And honestly...ialthough I will keep trying I don't think I'll personally ever figure out the ril/mic issue...but since we got h8rift now I think we may stand a fighting chance...he is a real dev, I'm just a contributor...hence our titles
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Yeah they can make some beautiful looking phones with excellent build quality but sense hasn't aged well and every post sensation device has been a lot less developer friendly. I almost think they feel insulted that anyone wouldn't want to use sense and feel like their phones are perfect already.
But the one x, one x+, and DROID DNA are all gorgeous looking. Hell really so is our phone. Make no mistake their phones are awesome its just the software that blows.
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Up top, this isn't a "best ROM" or "what should I run" sort of thread. It's also a topic that can easily provoke rage so please don't think that I'm trying to convince anyone of one thing or another. This is just me being curious.
After starting with Android a few years ago, I've noticed an increasing amount of "flashing fatigue" setting in lately. Sure, I'll root (because I have a lot of utility apps that require root), but the appeal of custom ROMs is fading fast. The Google Edition port was my latest (and longest standing) ROM for my One, and before that I'd tried one or two stock-derivative ROMs (save one bad AOSP experience back when we had sleep of death going on). I'm back to stock now, and trying a "fuller" experience (no launcher replacement, etc.-- minus root, again, for some XPosed tweaks like disabling the NFC icon).
This phone's now been out a while, so I'm curious: how many of you have "settled down" so to speak on one side or the other?
The first Android I owned was an Epic 4G and then Epic 4G Touch. Both left a ton to be deaired from a software standpoint and I easily flashed 3 dozen or more different roms between those two phones.
Flash forward to the HTC One and I've never felt the need to leave the stock ROM. I do use the Google Experience Launcher and have replaces some of the stock apps with better versions from 3rd party devs, but honestly I don't really see a point. Performance, battery life and functionality all seem to have hit a perfect balance with this phone. And like you suggested, the fatigue of flashing is really heavy these days especially since I'm not looking to fix a flaw or add a feature. Although once a working KitKat ROM hits us I will probably root and flash just to get a feel. Though admittedly I've always found the bone stock look of Android to be lacking visually.
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The very first phone I flashed over to a custom firmware was the LG G2X from T-Mobile. The android experience on that phone was very tasteless and bloated. Support from LG was less than non-existent. I found that I couldn't really stand using the phone on stock so I flashed a few different roms until I landed on eaglesblood. Although there was a lot broken on eaglesblood, I found it an upgrade to stock. Fast forward like Adam described and I have been on the HTC One for nearly 6 months. In that time I have flashed perhaps a few custom roms. In the end, I reverted back to stock. The One is a solid phone from both a software and hardware stand-point. I find myself checking my BlinkFeed a few times an hour and if I am on a senseless ROM I feel lost without it.
Tl;dr I have no need to ever leave stock. Stock rooted is good enough for me.
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I've been running RageOne and have found it to be more than enough from what I need for my HTC one
Same here. I started with Hero, then Evo Shift, Evo 3D, Evo 4G LTE and now The One. I previously always rooted and flashed multiple roms until found one that like and stable enough for daily use. With the One, I honestly haven't done nothing to it. I find it prefect for everyday use. No problem was so ever. At times I feel weird because I never had an HTC or android phone for less than a week without rooting it and etc, but with the One no need since good as is.
I know also pending amount of developers we have currently since most leave to develop in other phones or carrier based phone model is what we can choose from roms available which is less than the other carrier model.
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The HTC One is my first non Nexus smartphone, so dealing with all the bloat that comes with Sense and stock has been hard for me. When I was using my Nexus S 4G I used Slim Rom and loved it for its minimal nature and stuck with it. Slim bean 4.3 stable has been a great rom for me, though now that the 4.4 builds are out I've found them more suitable for a daily driver. Slimkat is awesome and I personally cant wait for it to reach stable. Minimal is my cup of tea, add in Google Experience Launcher and I'm one happy guy.
I had a Hero, then a whole bunch of Shift4G's. Rooted all of those because I could make them noticeably faster, increase the battery life, and get rid of apps I didn't use.
With the One, it's already fast enough that I wouldn't notice an increase much. The battery life is great for the way I use it, I recently had a stretch that was nearly 40 hours off the charger (obviously I didn't use it a heck of a lot during that time). And being able to hide the apps I don't want from the app drawer means I forget they're even there. Because of that, I haven't seen a good reason to put a different ROM on this phone...yet
Are any users strictly using AOSP on their phones vs. HTC Sense?
I'm asking because I'm starting to get tired of using the same system and looking for a spice up to my HTC One. (Got tired of Sense 6 being a battery hog and incompatible services like Zoe)
And if so, do you like it better, what's the battery life like, and have you had any problems adapting to the open source project?
Thanks in advance!
I only use sense roms, I'm not a fan of pure android.
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After I bought my One in July I ran Sense for about 5 months before I found out that Pac-rom for available so I jumped on it..And I've loved the phone even more since then...i've only got a few gripes with the setup I have but they are probably just configuration issues.
A. Extremely slow charge: I've seen up to 10Hrs for a full charge from 0%.
B. Overheating: Now I've heard that the One is susceptible to overheating even from the factory but when your not running anything just charging and it gets over 187 degrees there is a problem.
C. Wi-Fi / 4G-3G switchover: Now i'm not sure if this is just something i'll have to deal with or just a fluke but every time I leave work there is a point where the phone is in-between service areas and it refuses to switch over but it will if restarted....
Those are just the major problems I've had, but that isn't to say it's a bad rom or anything in fact it's quite the opposite...i love it to death... the maintainer has done an excellent job of fixing these issues to the point where it's just acting up occasionally and now Pac is 4.4 it's even better try it you'll like it...
The only sense 6 rom that was great on battery, for me at least, was gruesomewolf's rom. I just started using slimkat last night and I have to say that I'm enjoying it
I generally prefer AOSP but haven't been running it because it makes the already terrible camera even worse.
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Sabreslight said:
After I bought my One in July I ran Sense for about 5 months before I found out that Pac-rom for available so I jumped on it..And I've loved the phone even more since then...i've only got a few gripes with the setup I have but they are probably just configuration issues.
A. Extremely slow charge: I've seen up to 10Hrs for a full charge from 0%.
B. Overheating: Now I've heard that the One is susceptible to overheating even from the factory but when your not running anything just charging and it gets over 187 degrees there is a problem.
C. Wi-Fi / 4G-3G switchover: Now i'm not sure if this is just something i'll have to deal with or just a fluke but every time I leave work there is a point where the phone is in-between service areas and it refuses to switch over but it will if restarted....
Those are just the major problems I've had, but that isn't to say it's a bad rom or anything in fact it's quite the opposite...i love it to death... the maintainer has done an excellent job of fixing these issues to the point where it's just acting up occasionally and now Pac is 4.4 it's even better try it you'll like it...
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A: I agree with the slow charging speeds but I'm not sure if it was because of cm or because I was using the phone
B: overheating does seem to happen at least a little more compared to sense.
C: with the recent updates to cyanogenmod they improved the switchovers. It was merged recently to the nightlies, someone posted about it on kushdecks thread.
As for the camera being worse than sense, that is true because aosp doesn't have access to the imagechip so it uses the camera raw performance so it's not as good in low light or focusing, this has been an issue ever since they introduced their imagechip and because it's closed source the aosp community doesn't have access to it.
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Running the latest weekly of slimkat with lunar kernel. Love it. Always been a fan of both aosp and sense.. But I miss my galaxy nexus which ran aosp so this is the closest. My next phone will be the nexus 6. Skipping the M8 simply for the fact that the Nexus line is pure AOSP out the box and I don't want an Ultrapixel camera
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predator1584 said:
Are any users strictly using AOSP on their phones vs. HTC Sense?
I'm asking because I'm starting to get tired of using the same system and looking for a spice up to my HTC One. (Got tired of Sense 6 being a battery hog and incompatible services like Zoe)
And if so, do you like it better, what's the battery life like, and have you had any problems adapting to the open source project?
Thanks in advance!
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I'm using CM-11 nightlies and like it. The phone is quick and responsive. Overall, I like it better than Sense. Actually, with both CM and Sense, I have used Nova launcher... which is an improvement over Sense or Trebecht.
I have been interested in trying a Sense 6 ROM. What sense 6 ROM did you use? You found Zoe incompatible?
predator1584 said:
Are any users strictly using AOSP on their phones vs. HTC Sense?
I'm asking because I'm starting to get tired of using the same system and looking for a spice up to my HTC One. (Got tired of Sense 6 being a battery hog and incompatible services like Zoe)
And if so, do you like it better, what's the battery life like, and have you had any problems adapting to the open source project?
Thanks in advance!
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try gruesome wolf's GPE rom...