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I can get the devs "sense" of achievement but the hundreds of followers comments of yipeeeeeee, and awesome... etc etc etc ... Why not just buy an HTC?
I am near the end of my 3 month trial of a Nexus S and it has lasted pricisely 2 weeks, its up for sale. I just do not like it. Its featureless and slow. My Desire HD -using rcmix runny- is so much smoother and quicker to the touch I just don't get how they done so well. On Saturdy, else before, I will pickup my Evo 3d dual core and go again -after 4 years- with htc. At $330 (£229 in Asda UK), I just can't say no.
I know there are lots of fans out there for Samsung, but what do you like about it?
Me on Nexus S. Buttons, wkd for reboots to recovery when had to rip battery out. Nice and easy. Like the longer thinner screen too. And Amoled is very good. That is it.
I think you're confusing 'Samsung' with Vanilla Android. What you experienced with the Nexus S isn't your normal Samsung experience. The Nexus phones are pure, unadulterated Android. They may seem plain to some but they're designed to be. They are developers phones. They're easy to mod, to theme and easy to use.
If i bought a Nexus S i would have MIUI on it in a heartbeat personally, but that's the whole point of what we do here. Buy a phone you like and have it your way. Vanilla, Sense, MIUI, iphone themed... whatever. I can understand wanting a Nexus S and putting Sense on it, if you're a fan of both!
Some people buy HTC but get rid of Sense as quickly as humanly possible. Different strokes for different folks.
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I think you're confusing 'Samsung' with Vanilla Android. What you experienced with the Nexus S isn't your normal Samsung experience. The Nexus phones are pure, unadulterated Android. They may seem plain to some but they're designed to be. They are developers phones. They're easy to mod, to theme and easy to use.
If i bought a Nexus S i would have MIUI on it in a heartbeat personally, but that's the whole point of what we do here. Buy a phone you like and have it your way. Vanilla, Sense, MIUI, iphone themed... whatever. I can understand wanting a Nexus S and putting Sense on it, if you're a fan of both!
Some people buy HTC but get rid of Sense as quickly as humanly possible. Different strokes for different folks.
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Another example of Samsung letting someone else do all the work. MIUI -for me- is boring, too much concentration on being an iphone rather than itself. I used to use first MIUI roms when it took weeks to get a translation out of Shen. It might be time to try it again.
I am one of the ones that strips Sense immediately. The point was that my HD runs faster and smoother with sense that the NS runs without it at all. I tried many roms and the lag is terrible, as was the stock rom. Now performance with the Oxygen or absolution roms... That is special. I just think the build quality is better. I guess I am disappointed with no singing OR dancing.
Orb3000, if you are around please explain what it is about HTC that we love so much.
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Another example of Samsung letting someone else do all the work. .
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lolwut?! I don't think you understood, They're phones 'promoted' by google, with clean android, it's how they're meant to be, in no way is that Samsung letting someone else do all the work?! What's all the work?! All UI's from manafacture's are for android, which is what the Nexus S has, just not skined, the Nexus One, that didn't have any custom UI, does that mean HTC is letting someone else do all the work. And finally, by another.. What else have they done?
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Dude, I used to love Sense. I owned an HTC Desire, and even Sense 2.1 lagged on it.
Then, I realized, Sense sucks. It's heavy, really bloated and makes Android look like sh!t! Yes, even on Gingerbread. It's really bad. I agree, it does have some cool features, like the People app on Sense is unmatched, but, still, I prefer stock Android waaaaaay better.
Now, I have a Nexus S. And I absolutely love it. Why aren't you using ICS? It's much faster than Gingerbread. And much much better. I love my Nexus S and will never change it with an HTC.
And the reason that people buy Samsung, is that it has better hardware than HTC. Just look at SGS II or SG Note. They eat Sensation and Rezound for breakfast.
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Not sure dude. I think that Samsung were cute using the Tegra 2 for those models and you will see a big swing this year when htc have the t3 inside. In bothe phone and tablet. The actual feel of an htc in your hand is much better i reckon. The nexus s and sg2 seem plasticy.
I have the cm9 kali ics on now.It is the only one of all the ICS's I can install and not spend 1hr putting things right on. its ok, but nothing like as quick as my DHD with sense on and loaded with apps, but that's on GB.
Ah well. I'm not sure what I expected from it really. The fact that i do mess with my own roms and knew what I would makes me the stupid one. If ur happy ur happy. I just wanted something different.
and the lord saw that it was a bloated resource hogging abomination and cast it into the lake of fire...
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lolwut?! I don't think you understood, They're phones 'promoted' by google, with clean android, it's how they're meant to be, in no way is that Samsung letting someone else do all the work?! What's all the work?! All UI's from manafacture's are for android, which is what the Nexus S has, just not skined, the Nexus One, that didn't have any custom UI, does that mean HTC is letting someone else do all the work. And finally, by another.. What else have they done?
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Im one of those people that stripped sense out as much as possible. Last years HTC phones were a disappointmet, I can't stand those 16:9 dimensions. Hopefully this year they make a decent phone with a 4:5 and 4.5" screen. Until then it'll be Samsungs.
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Dude, I used to love Sense. I owned an HTC Desire, and even Sense 2.1 lagged on it.
Then, I realized, Sense sucks. It's heavy, really bloated and makes Android look like sh!t! Yes, even on Gingerbread. It's really bad. I agree, it does have some cool features, like the People app on Sense is unmatched, but, still, I prefer stock Android waaaaaay better.
Now, I have a Nexus S. And I absolutely love it. Why aren't you using ICS? It's much faster than Gingerbread. And much much better. I love my Nexus S and will never change it with an HTC.
And the reason that people buy Samsung, is that it has better hardware than HTC. Just look at SGS II or SG Note. They eat Sensation and Rezound for breakfast.
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I have to totally disagree with you there old bean
Sense is lovely, it's so smooth and logical. I find it usable where as I find plain android horrible so would never have a nexus.
As for hardware, yes the SGS II screen is nice, but the phone feels really cheap and brittle to me, I'd be worried about sitting down and snapping it. I don't have such issues with the sensation and prefer the higher resolution screen.
It's one of the huge advantages Android has over other phone OSs, there's so much variety and customisation available pretty much everyone's desires can be met.
does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
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does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
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thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
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Define issues, and honestly, since a global rollout has yet to occur, I doubt that upgrades >4.0.3 are going to occur. Maybe the regions that have yet to get ICS may get 4.0.4 or later, if those regions ever release an update.
Honestly, you're probably going to have to wait for CM to give you that.
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@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
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HTC has said Sense 3.6 for the Vivid line. 4.0 for the One series and newer.
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@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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Well, the Vivid is definitely upgradeable to ICS, just not Sense 4 ICS. The way Sense 3.6 looks is very similar to the way it looks on GB; you just get the ICS bonuses when you update it.
I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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Many bugs on this update like losing reception when entering a train station then having to manually turn it back on when back outside or rebooting. Lost of audio on games which needs a reboot and the constant upgrading android on reboots. I believe we will get an upgrade to work out the kinks. But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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I don't think they'll update it; I think the user community will pull through. There is some efforts being made right now, but a lot of it is blocked courtesy of RIL issues.
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But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Yea, but ATT isn't..
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Yea, but ATT isn't..
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I've had sprint and t-mobile att is by far better in pricing. They even waved my activation fees and sold me a top of the line phone for 1 cent. While sprint and t-mobile man enough said. Never had verizon but after walking in and looking at the prices I walked out and never went back that was 5 years ago. What its been 5-6 months, fastest update to the latest and greatest ever not to mention we were the first to receive ICS if I'm correct. I think people are upset about the whole no unlimited data thing. But for what I use my phone for its ok haven't even hit a gig yet. Also lowest cancel fee as well. Haven't really needed support yet so don't know about that but S&T forget it.
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All I meant by that is that ATT has been notorious for only providing 1 major update per device (minor security/software patches aside). We got ICS and Sense 3.6 as the update, I don't see, from history, ATT giving us another big update like Sense 4.0
What pisses me off about all the cell phone companies is that they waste technology with greed. This phone among others have 2 CPUs and a monster gpu yet the current software does not utilize it very well at all. Now quads its truly a waste of hardware. When phones like the Samsung epic still does very well. ICS uses more resources and the following android update will use even more, making capable phones unable to be upgraded do to lack of resources. Now as far as sense 4 goes our phones have enough resource to handle the upgrade to not give it is a waste and a greed move. Also I hate reading a phone has 1gb ram but 300 available, its starting to be a joke. Laptops another mobile device that can receive the latest and greatest as long as the hardware is supported, they should just offer upgrades for a price which would guarantee upgrades as long as the hardware meets the requirements and offer them from the play store. And fixes should stay free.
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Really overall the update has been pretty good to me. Some minor quirks here and there but everything works and it seems stable. Sense 3.6 works well just the look of it all gets to me. Coming from a Samsung, touchwiz definitley adds its own look but keeps enough elements that you still know what version of android your running. The way it sounds is htc rebuilt sense from the ground up to look good on the one series but just did some minor tweaking on the updated phones. I still question the call imo. And I don't get why htc feel the need to remove overscroll glow and Crt animations on their roms, very cool effects that SHOULD be enabled! And why is the app drawer so.... Gingerbread looking? And where are the widget previews and why aren't they located in the apartment drawer?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/01/editorial-sense-4-on-ics-one-step-forward-two-steps-back-for-android/ from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
From this article it sounds like 4.0 is more of the same anyway but it's spot on about what bugs me about sense ics
Thanks for the link Cor-Master!!
I may want to back off of Sense and see what ICS really looks like. Who knew HTC was bastardizing ICS so much. Im new to the Vivid so I had no idea what Sense really was. Now I know more and knowing is half the battle!
Yeah and like the author I'm not against custom UIs. In away its what android was all about and it allows manufacturers some freedom in putting their own stamp on Android. But in the case of sense its just too much. A good example is my captivate and it's official gingerbread update. Samsung put their own stamp on I with touchwiz but it still looked and felt like gingerbread. All and all I'd say touchwiz was 80% android. And the launcher wasn't as heavily weaven into the ui as sense so as for me I spent a majority of my time with it on adw ex. But sense is probably 30% stock Android if that. They really went out of there way to make sure android didn't look or feel like android anymore.
I like sense for the most part and the issue is fixable if htc just does a few minor things: #1 kill all the textured menus and use the stock holo theme for everything. #2. Enable all ics animations #3. Keep the notification bar stock. And last but not least #4. Use the stock app drawer. They could keep everything else the same and sense overall would world's better!
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I like Sense. 3.6 is a huge step closer to an AOSP feel than 3.0 or 3.5 was. 4.0 looks even closer. Any way I look at it though, I like what HTC did with Sense. I think it enhances the look of the OS, without compromising resources too badly. It's definitely my favorite Android overlay (over touchwiz, motoblur, etc)...and it's one of the many reasons I bought the Vivid, because I like Sense. If I didn't like Sense, I probably wouldn't have bought HTC. Especially one who's development is a little slower than others.
i guess we just have to wait and see what happens maybe att will release an update for it i dont know
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
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CM Roms are AOSP based and will not contain Sense. CM always use AOSP
If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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I remember gingerbread running pretty nicely on my OG Evo as well. I do A LOT of different things on my phone (as I'm sure most of us do ), but there would always be something I could find. Guess it's just me being nitpicky lol. Didn't you release a Rom or 2 over there?
I love this newest version of sense, miss some of the old sense widgets though. The zoe feature is top notch, and the camera pics are better then any mobile phone camera I've ever used. And I also have to admit, I'm in love with Blinkfeed. Everything right on the homescreen that I want to read, and some things I didn't, but found out that I did lol. All around I think it's a great os. I'm curious to try out some aosp on the One but I don't know if I'm willing to give up those features. I'm also intimidated about the internal data moving around between aosp and sense, and having to manually move it around. That's why to me right now it's not worth the change. Well have to see what's in store for the future.
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I know on my evo shift aosp ran flawless and fast as all getout.... I suppose the benefits on a device this fast would simply be the fact that its the latest android release 4.2.2 as opposed to whatever android version sense is (currently 4.1.2). Honestly for the enrichment that sense brings I don't see it getting nearly as popular on the one unless klp brings some killer features. Until the next iteration of sense comes out and we get that update....
I'm with ya OP I just don't understand the reasoning. But some people are just purists I suppose and want stock Android for some reason. I've personally always thought of AOSP was kind of moving and meh.
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I tried CM10.1 for a few days it's night and day more fluid. If it gets fully functional bye bye blink feed.
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I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!
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I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!
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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.
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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.
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Right..I was a junkie for all the things you could when I first learned about rooting, I was reading forums ALL the time!!!
Another thing to add is that Sense 5 is much more transparent to Android. You see a lot more of AOSP in the new version of Sense, like the notification menu, some of the text editing, etc. Personally, I like Sense over AOSP because AOSP to me seems just too basic. And this is a good in between to where I've actually been happy with it. Sense 3 and 4 were just way too in your face, but I liked it because it was Sense. I now see it more because I have the One. At this point, if HTC stays with it's values on Sense 5, and continues to innovate, more people will likely stay.
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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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That's because all AOSP ROMs are a hack. I'm sure it will be as fully functional and stable as any OEM Sense ROM.
The CM Project has some of it's own code. But they don't have access to firmware and they need to play together. HTC and Carriers have access to everything.
People always think open source means Open everything. It's almost always a Hybrid with some propriety pieces that are not released and the "public" code is always lagging in what's released.
Some things done on AOSP are reverse engineered when they don't have source for something (or the latest source).
I've yet to see a AOSP ROM CM have a FULLY functional GPS. Nor have the ## codes ever worked which I find really useful.
By the time they (Sprint HTC CDMA Android phones) are Officially Supported (if at all) it's over a year and the next generation is released.
Unofficial AOSP (CM) is always behind.
To answer Ops question, some ppl like the pure android experience. AOSP Roms are usually the 1st to be updated to the latest version of android. Also, AOSP Roms take up less memory than Sense roms. There are some features I actually miss from CM/AOSP like widgets in lockscreen, 4.2 quick toggles from notification drawer, quick reply to text from notification drawer, 4.2 photosphere, etc. I used to just run CM on all my devices when available but I'm actually liking Sense 5. For me, I'm happy with it and don't see myself flashing AOSP any time soon
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I think on dated HTC phones aosp was the way to go because sense was over bearing.. aosp came along way as far as functionality and features. Aosp opened development to things like cm, pa, rootbox, akop with things we never have on sense. Now on the other hand sense 5 is the sweet spot and with the camera features how sense is more incorporated into android opposed to how sense just ran on top and took control. Sense 5 is more like Pippen to Jordan rather than Shaq and Koby both wanting the stardom at one point
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Sense is one of the reason I use HTC. I tried a few asop roms on my ol g evo (loved that phone)and never liked them as much.
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Has anyone ported a sense Rom for a device from a different brand
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I am with the op as well. I use HTC devices because of sense. I would just use a nexus if I wanted aosp. Just a matter of personal preference I guess.
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Well right now there isn't much advantage. But when key lime pie lands and then L whatever it becomes a lot more appealing. HTC won't keep this updated for the two years I will own this phone but I will still want to play with next great thing and not be stuck here. Usually bounce between ASOP and the newest sense that gets ported.
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I was a AOSP user for awhile on my cdma htc hero and my lg optimus s (AOSP made them less sluggish). But I always had some sort of bug. When I bought the S3 I was excited because the phone is so popular I figured AOSP would run really well and the bugs would be gone....Needless to say it was always too buggy for me (and if you goto the cyanogenmod thread there is always someone reporting a bug). So I stuck with touchwiz but didnt like the look so I themed it and honestly I was pretty content. A large part of why I like cyanogen is because it looks really nice.
The new sense hit it out of the park IMO and is a great base to tweek up even better than touchwiz. Looks wise its awesome and it has many good features. I am now going to root and install a custom rom based off of stock. Stock tweaked rooms seem to be where its at right now.
Im not going to lie if I could choose plain android vs sense I might choose android but the choice between modded AOSP (buggy) and stock modded is simple.
also it's the battery life of aosp roms, usually cm roms easily doubles battery life for me, on the lte i could easily go 1 day and half on my batt when most on sense couldn't make it thru a day being a heavy user, there are pros and cons to sense and cm
I decided to try vanilla Android and brought a Nexus 4 and guess what? Guess they call it vanilla for a reason. It was absolutely the boringness phone I have ever had. I only lasted 2 weeks with the phone before I gave up on it.
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I'm runnin the latest cm nightly and alls well... Like aosp sometimes... Fun to change it up just because... I can!
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Hello guys. I want to buy a htc one. But should i buy google edition version or sense version ? Which one is better ?
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serkanhiziroglu1998 said:
Hello guys. I want to buy a htc one. But should i buy google edition version or sense version ? Which one is better ?
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Pretty sure by the time the google version comes out you can flash to your heart's content. Right now there are some good options and AOSP based roms are getting better by the day. :good:
Personal preference I reckon. The Google edition will be up to date and less bloated, but sense feels more complete in my opinion, and they've done a great job with Sense 5!
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Hello guys. I want to buy a htc one. But should i buy google edition version or sense version ? Which one is better ?
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Get sense one. You will be able to run aosp on it but not vice versa. I doubt there will be Google HTC one.. even if there is,sense won't be able to run on it.
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I wanted to post the exact same thread, saves me work now :good: I'm looking to upgrade quite soon, from my Gnex and before I was all about the N4, but the One looks so much better! Hard to resist. Honestly Sense 5.0 looks really good and promising and normally I absolutely loathe bloatware/oem skins. Check this tweet out from Richard Lai:
https://twitter.com/richardlai/status/334718806855389184
Makes it even harder to choose. I prefer to run stock roms, without all the rooting/tweaking etc. What to do, first world problems.
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Get sense one. You will be able to run aosp on it but not vice versa. I doubt there will be Google HTC one.. even if there is,sense won't be able to run on it.
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How can you not run a sense based rom on a Google edition HTC one? The phone has also been confirmed.
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Its so complicated guys !
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Its so complicated guys !
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Sense 5 is nice and easy to use Google versiyonu için çok da beklemenin bir anlamı yok. Nasıl olsa aradaki fark HTC tarafından kapatılıyor.
I like aosp much more. The problem is that Google's One will be available only in US and Im from EU. I hope it will be possible to flash aosp on regular One.
They are the same phone and HTC themselves said they won't be making one. Yes football said they will but this isn't the first time he has been wrong. So buy a regular HTC one and throw CM on it and be happy
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First of all, there still has not been ANY official confirmation that there will (ever) be an HTC One "Google Edition". Yes, there are rumours and many websites seem to be pretty convinced about it coming soon. But till there is something official, don't just assume there actually will be an HTC One G.E...
Sense 5 or AOSP is a question for me too. I have been using my HTC One for over a month now, only using Stock or custom Sense 5 ROMs. I am really enjoying it and I just can't make myself go AOSP. I have tried PAC ROM (CM/AOKP/PA mix) for 10 minutes on my One.. then went back. First of all, these things (which will probably be the same on the "Google Edition" of the One)
- Speakers: They are loud, but don't sound that good as on Sense 5. The problem is there is no Beats Audio on AOSP and that really makes a difference on the HTC One and it's dual front speakers.
- Camera: You can take pictures. You can make videos. That's it. Forget all the stuff like Zoe, all the camera settings you get with the stock HTC camera, the HTC gallery, etc. Even the pictures themselve seem a bit less good, since you are missing HTC’s imaging software.
These 2 things are already enough to stop me from going AOSP. Well, almost then. I have always been a huge fan of AOSP based roms, so I could even let these 2 things go. But once you go back to AOSP, you realise Sense 5 is almost as good. Sense 5 is often just as fast, it looks much more modern and pretty and makes AOSP roms almost look boring. So at the moment, for me (an AOSP fan) there is no reason to leave Sense 5 on my HTC One. Either Android 4.3 will be awesome and a CM 10.2 will make me go AOSP, or they find ways to implement Beats Audio/Better camera on CM10.1 or something.
My advice: go for the normal HTC One. It's not even confirmed yet if there will ever be a Google Edition. And if there will be, I think chances are little of it including Beats Audio and the HTC Camera. Here is a nice article about HTC One and AOSP: http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/29/android-oem-skins-important
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First of all, there still has not been ANY official confirmation that there will (ever) be an HTC One "Google Edition". Yes, there are rumours and many websites seem to be pretty convinced about it coming soon. But till there is something official, don't just assume there actually will be an HTC One G.E...
Sense 5 or AOSP is a question for me too. I have been using my HTC One for over a month now, only using Stock or custom Sense 5 ROMs. I am really enjoying it and I just can't make myself go AOSP. I have tried PAC ROM (CM/AOKP/PA mix) for 10 minutes on my One.. then went back. First of all, these things (which will probably be the same on the "Google Edition" of the One)
- Speakers: They are loud, but don't sound that good as on Sense 5. The problem is there is no Beats Audio on AOSP and that really makes a difference on the HTC One and it's dual front speakers.
- Camera: You can take pictures. You can make videos. That's it. Forget all the stuff like Zoe, all the camera settings you get with the stock HTC camera, the HTC gallery, etc. Even the pictures themselve seem a bit less good, since you are missing HTC’s imaging software.
These 2 things are already enough to stop me from going AOSP. Well, almost then. I have always been a huge fan of AOSP based roms, so I could even let these 2 things go. But once you go back to AOSP, you realise Sense 5 is almost as good. Sense 5 is often just as fast, it looks much more modern and pretty and makes AOSP roms almost look boring. So at the moment, for me (an AOSP fan) there is no reason to leave Sense 5 on my HTC One. Either Android 4.3 will be awesome and a CM 10.2 will make me go AOSP, or they find ways to implement Beats Audio/Better camera on CM10.1 or something.
My advice: go for the normal HTC One. It's not even confirmed yet if there will ever be a Google Edition. And if there will be, I think chances are little of it including Beats Audio and the HTC Camera. Here is a nice article about HTC One and AOSP: http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/29/android-oem-skins-important
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You can just flash/install beats drivers onto any Android phone. I did it with my Nexus 4 and my old Mytouch 3G Slide.
Haven't done it on the One though.
Camera on the other hand, no way of getting use of that image chip unless HTC releases sources for it.
EDIT: I can't find the other one, but here's an example.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895651&highlight=beats+audio
I love SENSE! Everything works!
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Now its explained that it exists.what do you guys planning ?
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XDA mark said:
First of all, there still has not been ANY official confirmation that there will (ever) be an HTC One "Google Edition". Yes, there are rumours and many websites seem to be pretty convinced about it coming soon. But till there is something official, don't just assume there actually will be an HTC One G.E...
Sense 5 or AOSP is a question for me too. I have been using my HTC One for over a month now, only using Stock or custom Sense 5 ROMs. I am really enjoying it and I just can't make myself go AOSP. I have tried PAC ROM (CM/AOKP/PA mix) for 10 minutes on my One.. then went back. First of all, these things (which will probably be the same on the "Google Edition" of the One)
- Speakers: They are loud, but don't sound that good as on Sense 5. The problem is there is no Beats Audio on AOSP and that really makes a difference on the HTC One and it's dual front speakers.
- Camera: You can take pictures. You can make videos. That's it. Forget all the stuff like Zoe, all the camera settings you get with the stock HTC camera, the HTC gallery, etc. Even the pictures themselve seem a bit less good, since you are missing HTC’s imaging software.
These 2 things are already enough to stop me from going AOSP. Well, almost then. I have always been a huge fan of AOSP based roms, so I could even let these 2 things go. But once you go back to AOSP, you realise Sense 5 is almost as good. Sense 5 is often just as fast, it looks much more modern and pretty and makes AOSP roms almost look boring. So at the moment, for me (an AOSP fan) there is no reason to leave Sense 5 on my HTC One. Either Android 4.3 will be awesome and a CM 10.2 will make me go AOSP, or they find ways to implement Beats Audio/Better camera on CM10.1 or something.
My advice: go for the normal HTC One. It's not even confirmed yet if there will ever be a Google Edition. And if there will be, I think chances are little of it including Beats Audio and the HTC Camera. Here is a nice article about HTC One and AOSP: http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/29/android-oem-skins-important
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I fully agree with you. And i have experienced the same while using CARBON ROM on HTC one and Stock Sense 5. These two things are a deal breaker for me as well. Sense Camera and BeatsAudio features and performance they make a HELL lot of difference.
Now coming to my question: Is there are AOSP or AOKP offering at least Sense stock Camera and BeatsAudio in them. That would be a BACON IMO.
thanks
Sense 5 aosp lags
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I've tried both Sense and AOSP via ROMs. The main things where I much prefer one over the other are:
-Lockscreen - the AOSP 4.2 lock screen is really really good. If I'm on a Sense ROM I end up installing WidgetLocker but even that is nowhere near as good as what I get in AOSP.
-Contacts/dialer app, I much prefer the HTC interface over the AOSP default. Editing and merging contacts from different sources like Facebook and Skype is easier, and I just think the interface looks better
-Camera. While I don't like Sense's Gallery, the Zoe and Highlight Reel features can do some awesome things. AOSP has PhotoSphere though, which is also cool. Wish I could have both camera apps at once.
Let's hear it.
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I have a nexus 7 and stock Android bores me. I actually like Touchwiz and the "vomit inducing colors", that some people complain so much about.
I have no need to rom my S4.
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Mship said:
I have a nexus 7 and stock Android bores me. I actually like Touchwiz and the "vomit inducing colors", that some people complain so much about.
I have no need to rom my S4.
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I tend to agree mostly because I enjoy having the option. TW has really stepped it up since the Gingerbread version that came stock on the S2. I tend to go back and forth between TW and AOSP. A great option.
The Nexus 7 is a great device. I run JellyBeer because I like tabletui on my tablet. I tend to do less modding now on that device because I play a ton of games on it. I'd rather it just be stable.
I will say this I brought a TW device because I like TW. People buy a TW device and complain about TW I'm like why not just buy a pure Google device instead of flashing a rom to get that pure Google experience.
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It's great we have options. I say whatever floats your boat. But like E, I bought a TW device because I wanted one. My wife had an S3 and I had HTC's. I did all the techie stuff on her phone and grew to like the interface. It's a refreshing change for me being a long time Sense user. And I've been very pleased with it so far. But it's nice to know I can always switch if I get bored with TW.
The device itself, no. There will be near-perfect ports for the TW devices already out there. But if I had the choice of buying either of them at the same price, I'd go with the GPe. I don't use most of Samsung's pre-loaded features.
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I've enjoyed the TW experience and why give up features for the pure android experience?
I came from HTC Sense and pure Android with all the roms I found for my Evo3d, so TW is new to me. I love TW! To me they all do the same crap. I do love all the settings, options and gadgets from TW so I prefer it for now. The only reason I tried non sense roms was for Jellybean and increase speed. With my S4 I don't need any more speed plus I love the funs stuff that came with the phone so I don't see myself installing a different rom unless its the next Android version. Whats the next Android version to come out? Apple Pie or something like that?
The only time I used an aosp rom for a long period was on my hero. I actually preferred sense over aosp and now I am really enjoying tw. I must admit I do notice some lag at times, but no more than any other phone I've had. Also, this is the longest I've ever gone without rooting a phone. I'm considering rooting now just to get rid of some of the bloat I never use.
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I've always liked the dark aosp roms and paranoid android but this is the first touch wiz phone I've like the tw on because of the extra features.
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If someone can get the tw camera ported, that would be sick.
Finally I find people that like touch wiz. As a fellow liker of tw it was sad being in a minority of one
Vanilla may be nice in some aspects, but it gets boring quick. I don't know what specifically, but there were things I couldn't do on vanilla that I could do on touchwiz. I don't know of any, off hand, that I couldn't do in tw but could in vanilla. I don't know if it is an issue now but it used to be that a Bluetooth program, or the emulator program, wouldn't work with a Nintendo controller if it had touchwiz. Haven't used it lately so I don't know if they fixed that. The Dev said that touchwiz wasn't compatible at the time. This was the time of the nexus s 4g.
E The Magnificent said:
I will say this I brought a TW device because I like TW. People buy a TW device and complain about TW I'm like why not just buy a pure Google device instead of flashing a rom to get that pure Google experience.
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Sprint doesn't have any pure Google devices.
I'm not a fan of the vomit inducing colors on asop. The lack of ability to customize the phone the way you want without having to resort to play store apps or asop roms is annoying. The horrible camera and phone app reminds me of pre froyo. Settings menu lacks the options to customize and requires too many "clicks" deep into menus to get what you want.
WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS/brightness all require
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Yes because they will give us power users and devs more options and it will boost aosp development for regular stock subsidized phones.
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I regularly switch between TW & AOSP. I like them both for different reasons and I change as the mood suits me. I'll say this though - I waited longer to flash an AOSP rom on this phone than I have on any other phone in something like 2-3 years. And that covers a whole lot of phones. Samsung has done great things with TW and I'm legitimately baffled by all the hatred it gets.
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PwnCloud said:
Sprint doesn't have any pure Google devices.
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Galaxy Nexus
Nexus S 4G
I bought this phone for the hardware, and SUPER AMOLED, 5 inch screen. The extras mean nothing to me. I like the snappiness of AOSP/GE. Once you flash CM10.1, you cant' go back to TouchWiz. It just doesn't look right.
Until stock android gets better features, no. Google needs to come up with some cool features like LGs quick memo, floating apps, or video overlay, or Samsung's dual window mode, and pop out video. It's features like that, that actually enhance the android experience. App switching ≠ multitasking anymore. What's the point of all these quad core phones if we don't get use out of them?
Another main thing is google needs to stop giving CDMA users the cold shoulder. Even if Pure devices were worth it, they wouldn't be worth switching companies for.
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I bought this phone for the hardware, and SUPER AMOLED, 5 inch screen. The extras mean nothing to me. I like the snappiness of AOSP/GE. Once you flash CM10.1, you cant' go back to TouchWiz. It just doesn't look right.
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Maybe YOU can't, but I do all the time. I don't really notice any difference in speed between the two, and my 3g data on CM is just awful.
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