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No need for 4.2

Kind of funny but I've been thinking about this. 4.2 is almost an update designed to make bare bones aosp android better, and does almost nothing for a phone with a manufacturer skin. 4.1 would be great on this phone with project butter, better notifications, and Google now, but here's the rundown on 4.2 features:
Better camera app: sense 3.6 already has a nicer one than aosp. No photosphere but its kinda of a gimmick "look what my phone can do" feature anyway. The stock camera app has always sucked until 4.2 and the update finally brings it up to par with custom ui's, but does nothing for us.
Improved lockscreen with widget support : sense pretty much has the best lockscreen with shortcut support and notification widgets that appear through sense apps. Custom widget support would be nice but aosp still doesn't have shortcut support.
Gesture typing: yep, we got it on the stock "touch input" keyboard. next
Quick settings : yep sense has that too
Tv out support : while we don't have miracast support, about every htc device post evo 4G has either an hdmi port or mhl support. I'm sure the vivid is no different, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Better alarm clock app : the aosp alarm clock app has always been an after thought until 4.2,however ui's like sense and touchwiz have always had really nice alarm clock apps and the 4.2 app really just brings stock aosp up to par with the ui's
User profiles: this feature is tablet only and disabled on the phones so the vivid wouldn't get it anyway.
I think that's about it. So there you have it! I really kind of believe 4.2 is catered to nexus devices, and I honestly could see a lot of manufacturers passing on this as if they do update, then it'll be little more than a version number change. If you're in the market for a non nexus phone and it has 4.1, then your already up to date.
Just something I thought about. Thoughts?
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And before anyone calls me out, I got a nexus 7, so I use 4.2 on a daily basis, so I'm not just posting on stuff I've read lol.
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I have a nexus 7 also and personally I'd like to see 4.2 on the vivid because I HATE sense.... Didn't realize how much I didn't like it until I played with pure android. But I'm guessing that if we can't get CM10 to work on this phone, there'd be no reason to worry about 4.2 or not!
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Yeah I'm not to keen on sense either, thought it was awesome until I got a phone with it and had to use it every day. If by some Longshot we get jellybean, I hope it comes with Sense 4+ and not the underwhelming sense 3.6 that's on this phone now. From what I've seen sense 4 is world's ahead of what we have.
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Once cm10 is completed bring 4.2 will be easy as there isn't much difference between 4.1.2 and 4.3 when it comes to making things work
Anyways I love the 4.2 camera...and I think I read others here on the vivid are able to use it on ICS....
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Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Cor-master said:
Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Lol I feel the same...but since I have the phone and at least somewhat knowledge on this stuff I figured I might as well try my best...that being said I hate HTC and will never get another one...this vivid ruined it for me. Like you say, stock wise this phone is great...but that's it. Once you go into the world of custom ROMs this phone takes a major dive to nowhere :/
And honestly...ialthough I will keep trying I don't think I'll personally ever figure out the ril/mic issue...but since we got h8rift now I think we may stand a fighting chance...he is a real dev, I'm just a contributor...hence our titles
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Yeah they can make some beautiful looking phones with excellent build quality but sense hasn't aged well and every post sensation device has been a lot less developer friendly. I almost think they feel insulted that anyone wouldn't want to use sense and feel like their phones are perfect already.
But the one x, one x+, and DROID DNA are all gorgeous looking. Hell really so is our phone. Make no mistake their phones are awesome its just the software that blows.
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As a rom addict, would you advise me to keep my One?

I have both the S4 and the One in front of me and one of them is going back by tonight. Still torn between the two, whatever, but there is one factor that can make my decision a lot easier. I never keep a stock rom on any phone; I prefer a stock Android experience with some of the extras included in ROMs such as PA and AOKP. From what I am hearing now, flashing non-Sense ROMs on the One takes away almost all of the bells and whistles of owning the device, like BoomSound (average audio quality) and camera quality (at least we have 13 megapixels to compensate in the S4).
For those of you who have flashed some of these early builds, how is it working for you? Do you find using the phone to not be as enjoyable as it was stock?

ovoxo. said:
I have both the S4 and the One in front of me and one of them is going back by tonight. Still torn between the two, whatever, but there is one factor that can make my decision a lot easier. I never keep a stock rom on any phone; I prefer a stock Android experience with some of the extras included in ROMs such as PA and AOKP. From what I am hearing now, flashing non-Sense ROMs on the One takes away almost all of the bells and whistles of owning the device, like BoomSound (average audio quality) and camera quality (at least we have 13 megapixels to compensate in the S4).
For those of you who have flashed some of these early builds, how is it working for you? Do you find using the phone to not be as enjoyable as it was stock?
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I flashed PA and CM and 30 minutes later i went back to stock. Battery life on any aosp based rom for me has been terrible and all the features of the stock ROM are awesome. sound quality also deteriorated and got reduced volume on the aosp roms. Also gaming. NOTHING lags on stock rom but on PA and CM games lag like crazy. graphics benchmarks get reduced to like Adreno 225 level... And then since they are still alphas there are a lot of bugs and they aren't really stable. I would go with the HTC One instead of the SGS4 because of how sexy the damn thing is. also how sense is much more tuned and less cluttered up like touchwiz is.

crzykiller said:
I flashed PA and CM and 30 minutes later i went back to stock. Battery life on any aosp based rom for me has been terrible and all the features of the stock ROM are awesome. sound quality also deteriorated and got reduced volume on the aosp roms. Also gaming. NOTHING lags on stock rom but on PA and CM games lag like crazy. graphics benchmarks get reduced to like Adreno 225 level... And then since they are still alphas there are a lot of bugs and they aren't really stable. I would go with the HTC One instead of the SGS4 because of how sexy the damn thing is. also how sense is much more tuned and less cluttered up like touchwiz is.
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Thanks for the input. I know, the One is just too sexy, but I gotta actually enjoy using it. If the functionality is practically the same as the S4 after flashing a stock rom, I might as well keep the S4. As far as the TouchWiz vs. Sense argument goes, it is irrelevant to me since I would not be keeping either one as soon as there are some stable stock builds available.

Yeah, in your case just keep the S4.

Flash Trickdroid ROM, it's a custom ROM which is also sense based and has good if not better battery life than stock ROM and certainly better than AOSP.
I'm a fan of AOSP ROM's but for the most part the battery life isn't good so I'll stick with Trickdroid
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Why do people rely on strangers to tell them what they like? I got both of them, played with them, and ended up selling the s4. Reminded me too much of the s3.
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deviusdragger said:
Why do people rely on strangers to tell them what they like? I got both of them, played with them, and ended up selling the s4. Reminded me too much of the s3.
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This isn't about people telling me what they like really. I'm simply asking about their experiences thus far with their phone and flashing roms. Where else would I turn for advice? Also, if you read the OP I wasn't asking which device you liked more and which one you returned.

jonny68 said:
Flash Trickdroid ROM, it's a custom ROM which is also sense based and has good if not better battery life than stock ROM and certainly better than AOSP.
I'm a fan of AOSP ROM's but for the most part the battery life isn't good so I'll stick with Trickdroid
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I've heard great thing about Trickdroid, but there is no way I wanna miss out on things like PA's Halo feature..

ovoxo. said:
I have both the S4 and the One in front of me and one of them is going back by tonight. Still torn between the two, whatever, but there is one factor that can make my decision a lot easier. I never keep a stock rom on any phone; I prefer a stock Android experience with some of the extras included in ROMs such as PA and AOKP. From what I am hearing now, flashing non-Sense ROMs on the One takes away almost all of the bells and whistles of owning the device, like BoomSound (average audio quality) and camera quality (at least we have 13 megapixels to compensate in the S4).
For those of you who have flashed some of these early builds, how is it working for you? Do you find using the phone to not be as enjoyable as it was stock?
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I was in the same boat but stuck with the HTC One. I like it's feel in my hand a lot more which is a big thing for me, comfort>sexy, but both?! Also a lot of devs seem to be including sense in their roms letting us get Zoe+addons from aftermarket roms which keeps the camera viable. I think we'll see more interesting development on the One than on the S4 simply because devs will want to port/improve those features into their roms.

ovoxo. said:
I have both the S4 and the One in front of me and one of them is going back by tonight. Still torn between the two, whatever, but there is one factor that can make my decision a lot easier. I never keep a stock rom on any phone; I prefer a stock Android experience with some of the extras included in ROMs such as PA and AOKP. From what I am hearing now, flashing non-Sense ROMs on the One takes away almost all of the bells and whistles of owning the device, like BoomSound (average audio quality) and camera quality (at least we have 13 megapixels to compensate in the S4).
For those of you who have flashed some of these early builds, how is it working for you? Do you find using the phone to not be as enjoyable as it was stock?
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I ran the stock rom for 2 weeks before flashing a custom ROM. I didn't have any sluggish performance with stock, but I do like the custom rom better. I removed all the t-mobile junk. So if anything I got a performance increase.
I wouldn't return this phone, I love it.
Try the Maximus7 6.0 rom.
I came from a TF300 that was fing slow and constant force closes because of the slow IO in it. But it was a stock experience.
I thought I would hate this 'sense'. I like it. I do use a Nova Launcher and I removed the cruft.

ovoxo. said:
This isn't about people telling me what they like really. I'm simply asking about their experiences thus far with their phone and flashing roms. Where else would I turn for advice? Also, if you read the OP I wasn't asking which device you liked more and which one you returned.
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Maybe it's me getting older and needing a phone for business and not a toy to tinker with. The one gave me more features and the feel of it in my hand was better. Why not go with something with better features and reliability than with something that has more roms to flash? That's my question to op. Hopefully you can get both with whatever you decide to go with.
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ovoxo. said:
I've heard great thing about Trickdroid, but there is no way I wanna miss out on things like PA's Halo feature..
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Yeah id say Trickdroid is probably the best ROM overall right now for this one, but the choice is yours, if your prepared to sacrifice some battery life for extra features then no problems.
I'm running AOSP on my Nexus 7 and have been for months now but I'm quite content with Trickdroid on my One.

As a ROM addict, both of these phones will easily keep you happy.
However, asking in this forum will yield bias responses. Just like if you were to ask this in the S4 forum, you'll get the majority of answers saying to stick with the S4.

deviusdragger said:
Maybe it's me getting older and needing a phone for business and not a toy to tinker with. The one gave me more features and the feel of it in my hand was better. Why not go with something with better features and reliability than with something that has more roms to flash? That's my question to op. Hopefully you can get both with whatever you decide to go with.
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Why do you think I'm having such a hard time? :laugh: Too bad I can't afford to keep both.

KidCarter93 said:
As a ROM addict, both of these phones will easily keep you happy.
However, asking in this forum will yield bias responses. Just like if you were to ask this in the S4 forum, you'll get the majority of answers saying to stick with the S4.
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Yeah, of course. Just thought it would be better to get insight from those who have actually had experience with these ROMs. Both communities do seem like they are going to have a load of new things to flash and play with within the next few months.

Sense has gotten to the point (for me), that its features far outweigh anything aosp or aokp offer. Aosp advantage used to be that it was quicker and smoother with more customizations...not the case at all now. I would go as far to say that you actually lose more useful features than you gain by going pure android. I do understand the addiction though...I've had it for years...haha
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Confused why?

If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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felacio said:
Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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I remember gingerbread running pretty nicely on my OG Evo as well. I do A LOT of different things on my phone (as I'm sure most of us do ), but there would always be something I could find. Guess it's just me being nitpicky lol. Didn't you release a Rom or 2 over there?
I love this newest version of sense, miss some of the old sense widgets though. The zoe feature is top notch, and the camera pics are better then any mobile phone camera I've ever used. And I also have to admit, I'm in love with Blinkfeed. Everything right on the homescreen that I want to read, and some things I didn't, but found out that I did lol. All around I think it's a great os. I'm curious to try out some aosp on the One but I don't know if I'm willing to give up those features. I'm also intimidated about the internal data moving around between aosp and sense, and having to manually move it around. That's why to me right now it's not worth the change. Well have to see what's in store for the future.
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I know on my evo shift aosp ran flawless and fast as all getout.... I suppose the benefits on a device this fast would simply be the fact that its the latest android release 4.2.2 as opposed to whatever android version sense is (currently 4.1.2). Honestly for the enrichment that sense brings I don't see it getting nearly as popular on the one unless klp brings some killer features. Until the next iteration of sense comes out and we get that update....

I'm with ya OP I just don't understand the reasoning. But some people are just purists I suppose and want stock Android for some reason. I've personally always thought of AOSP was kind of moving and meh.
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I tried CM10.1 for a few days it's night and day more fluid. If it gets fully functional bye bye blink feed.
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I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!

gonowhere said:
I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!
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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.

fanaticalg said:
Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.
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Right..I was a junkie for all the things you could when I first learned about rooting, I was reading forums ALL the time!!!

Another thing to add is that Sense 5 is much more transparent to Android. You see a lot more of AOSP in the new version of Sense, like the notification menu, some of the text editing, etc. Personally, I like Sense over AOSP because AOSP to me seems just too basic. And this is a good in between to where I've actually been happy with it. Sense 3 and 4 were just way too in your face, but I liked it because it was Sense. I now see it more because I have the One. At this point, if HTC stays with it's values on Sense 5, and continues to innovate, more people will likely stay.

pmacevad said:
If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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That's because all AOSP ROMs are a hack. I'm sure it will be as fully functional and stable as any OEM Sense ROM.
The CM Project has some of it's own code. But they don't have access to firmware and they need to play together. HTC and Carriers have access to everything.
People always think open source means Open everything. It's almost always a Hybrid with some propriety pieces that are not released and the "public" code is always lagging in what's released.
Some things done on AOSP are reverse engineered when they don't have source for something (or the latest source).
I've yet to see a AOSP ROM CM have a FULLY functional GPS. Nor have the ## codes ever worked which I find really useful.
By the time they (Sprint HTC CDMA Android phones) are Officially Supported (if at all) it's over a year and the next generation is released.
Unofficial AOSP (CM) is always behind.

To answer Ops question, some ppl like the pure android experience. AOSP Roms are usually the 1st to be updated to the latest version of android. Also, AOSP Roms take up less memory than Sense roms. There are some features I actually miss from CM/AOSP like widgets in lockscreen, 4.2 quick toggles from notification drawer, quick reply to text from notification drawer, 4.2 photosphere, etc. I used to just run CM on all my devices when available but I'm actually liking Sense 5. For me, I'm happy with it and don't see myself flashing AOSP any time soon
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I think on dated HTC phones aosp was the way to go because sense was over bearing.. aosp came along way as far as functionality and features. Aosp opened development to things like cm, pa, rootbox, akop with things we never have on sense. Now on the other hand sense 5 is the sweet spot and with the camera features how sense is more incorporated into android opposed to how sense just ran on top and took control. Sense 5 is more like Pippen to Jordan rather than Shaq and Koby both wanting the stardom at one point
Tricked Fauxed Sprint One

Sense is one of the reason I use HTC. I tried a few asop roms on my ol g evo (loved that phone)and never liked them as much.
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Has anyone ported a sense Rom for a device from a different brand
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I am with the op as well. I use HTC devices because of sense. I would just use a nexus if I wanted aosp. Just a matter of personal preference I guess.
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Well right now there isn't much advantage. But when key lime pie lands and then L whatever it becomes a lot more appealing. HTC won't keep this updated for the two years I will own this phone but I will still want to play with next great thing and not be stuck here. Usually bounce between ASOP and the newest sense that gets ported.
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I was a AOSP user for awhile on my cdma htc hero and my lg optimus s (AOSP made them less sluggish). But I always had some sort of bug. When I bought the S3 I was excited because the phone is so popular I figured AOSP would run really well and the bugs would be gone....Needless to say it was always too buggy for me (and if you goto the cyanogenmod thread there is always someone reporting a bug). So I stuck with touchwiz but didnt like the look so I themed it and honestly I was pretty content. A large part of why I like cyanogen is because it looks really nice.
The new sense hit it out of the park IMO and is a great base to tweek up even better than touchwiz. Looks wise its awesome and it has many good features. I am now going to root and install a custom rom based off of stock. Stock tweaked rooms seem to be where its at right now.
Im not going to lie if I could choose plain android vs sense I might choose android but the choice between modded AOSP (buggy) and stock modded is simple.

also it's the battery life of aosp roms, usually cm roms easily doubles battery life for me, on the lte i could easily go 1 day and half on my batt when most on sense couldn't make it thru a day being a heavy user, there are pros and cons to sense and cm

I decided to try vanilla Android and brought a Nexus 4 and guess what? Guess they call it vanilla for a reason. It was absolutely the boringness phone I have ever had. I only lasted 2 weeks with the phone before I gave up on it.
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I'm runnin the latest cm nightly and alls well... Like aosp sometimes... Fun to change it up just because... I can!
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CyanogenMod for Note 4

Do anybody know when we will get CyanogenMod for our Note 4 yet?

Sure 9 Sundays from now. Or was 5 Fridays not count every other one .. Time will tell..

No, nobody knows.

legacy3566 said:
Do anybody know when we will get CyanogenMod for our Note 4 yet?
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Two weeks.

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
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How is this better than the cook ROM that others have done?

chong67 said:
How is this better than the cook ROM that others have done?
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Cyanogen/AOSP is pure android without all the unnecessary graphics, designs and bloat from Samsung.
Minimal design = stronger processor strength.
Plus, pure stock Android is just better.

XDA has gone to $hit. He asked a simple question. Why does everyone need to be a$$holes?

suzook said:
XDA has gone to $hit. He asked a simple question. Why does everyone need to be a$$holes?
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I see. I guess this is similar to Nexus phone.? Stock android?
Then stock stuff miss alot of things like no notifcations with running count, like on your voice messages or txt. Then we need to install launcher. Then we back to the same thing?

Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.

dkb218 said:
Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring ass Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.
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Because Note devices have the top of the line and updated processors. In other words, fastest/strongest processors on the market at the time of release.
You will never see the full capacity of this processor until you're on Pure Android.
And that's what I love. This beastly processor on bare Android.
Perfection.

chong67 said:
I see. I guess this is similar to Nexus phone.? Stock android?
Then stock stuff miss alot of things like no notifcations with running count, like on your voice messages or txt. Then we need to install launcher. Then we back to the same thing?
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To get rid of the icon badges, disable BadgeProvider (in Application Manager).

I agree with you. IMO (<- take note of that before anyone gets butt hurt.) I think "some" people don't realize how much TW has improved. It's pretty awesome on the Note 4 and for those who like TW can definitely tell how far it has come.
CM is boring and IMO it takes away from the Notes DNA of what makes a Note a Note. If I just cared about having the best piece of hardware with a big screen, I'd still want something pleasing to look at than a black and white movie.
Like I've said earlier....
...and it's nice to be able to drive a McLaren P1 and do the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds as oppose to driving a gutted Honda Civic fully modded with no interior w/ a welded roll cage and helment running 9's in the 1/4. Chicks dig luxury, performance and comfort..."
IMO for anyone wanting CM, they should just the Nexus 6 or an iphone LOL. The fact remains that the new TW is very efficient and there are enough customizations you can do with wanam/xpose to be able to enjoy all the benefits of CM or not, depending on your style and preference. I am confident to give CM a run for its money on AnTuTu along with other benchmarks, because the truth is, with TW already running 50K+ on stock kernel, anything above this wouldn't really be noticeable if at all. Heck even anything below that wouldn't really make a difference in the real world with normal usage. Therefore, although all this doesn't really matter, I think it'll be fun to explore the close race between TW and CM. I'm game for it....bring it on. There won't be a big enough gap to even make CM justifiable IMO. Plus, the girl will want to ride in my car, not the gutted honda civic. Be a gentleman, and treat her like a lady. LOL j/k.
At the end of the day, it's your phone and you can do whatever the heck your heart desires. :highfive:
Bottom line, just be happy to know that you own the best darn device available and enjoy!
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Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring ass Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.
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iunlock said:
I agree with you. IMO (<- take note of that before anyone gets butt hurt.) I think "some" people don't realize how much TW has improved. It's pretty awesome on the Note 4 and for those who like TW can definitely tell how far it has come.
CM is boring and IMO it takes away from the Notes DNA of what makes a Note a Note. If I just cared about having the best piece of hardware with a big screen, I'd still want something pleasing to look at than a black and white movie.
Like I've said earlier....
...and it's nice to be able to drive a McLaren P1 and do the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds as oppose to driving a gutted Honda Civic fully modded with no interior w/ a welded roll cage and helment running 9's in the 1/4. Chicks dig luxury, performance and comfort..."
IMO for anyone wanting CM, they should just the Nexus 6 or an iphone LOL. The fact remains that the new TW is very efficient and there are enough customizations you can do with wanam/xpose to be able to enjoy all the benefits of CM or not, depending on your style and preference. I am confident to give CM a run for its money on AnTuTu along with other benchmarks, because the truth is, with TW already running 50K+ on stock kernel, anything above this wouldn't really be noticeable if at all. Heck even anything below that wouldn't really make a difference in the real world with normal usage. Therefore, although all this doesn't really matter, I think it'll be fun to explore the close race between TW and CM. I'm game for it....bring it on. There won't be a big enough gap to even make CM justifiable IMO. Plus, the girl will want to ride in my car, not the gutted honda civic. Be a gentleman, and treat her like a lady. LOL j/k.
At the end of the day, it's your phone and you can do whatever the heck your heart desires. :highfive:
Bottom, just be happy to know that you own the best darn device available and enjoy!
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5.0 Lollipop for Samsung is supposed to have a very material look.
If that's the case than the AOSP Roms aren't going to be the best out there.

The whole 5.0 thing is making me a little nervous. But then again didn't we have this scare before? I don't know....darn Google....
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5.0 Lollipop for Samsung is supposed to have a very material look.
If that's the case than the AOSP Roms aren't going to be the best out there.
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Coming from Verizon, it is a welcome change to have an unlocked bootloader, and the choice to drive the custom muscle car or the luxury car.
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You can drive both with the N4 especially with the availability of some awesome ROM's.....You seem like a car guy...if you want the performance of a fully gutted drag car with the luxury of a S Class, try the FireKatv3 ROM. You won't be disappointed. It's so crazy light and freakin' fast as heck.
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Coming from Verizon, it is a welcome change to have an unlocked bootloader, and the choice to drive the custom muscle car or the luxury car.
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You can drive both with the N4 especially with the availability of some awesome ROM's.....You seem like a car guy...if you want the performance of a fully gutted drag car with the luxury of a S Class, try the FireKatv3 ROM. You won't be disappointed. It's so crazy light and freakin' fast as heck.
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I really want to try that Ron but I need Unlimited tethering so I don't think
That rom supports it

the great thing about Cyanogen for our phone will be that will open the doors for all sorts of AOSP roms; Cyanogen mod is a very stripped down version of AOSP, but there are fantastic AOSP roms out there, (SlimRom, ParaNoidAndroid,AOKP) are a few that come to mind, and, they come with mods and fixes that bring ALOT of the stuff you get on the stock TouchWiz roms, just with different software; and,regardless of what anyone says, NO touchwiz rom will be as light, swift, slick and fast as an AOSP rom.
I too would be curious to see how this phone would scream with an AOSP rom, and I'm sure it wont be long till a few of them start showing up; but, usually Cyanogen Mod will be the first one that gets ported for a newly released phone..

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I really want to try that Ron but I need Unlimited tethering so I don't think
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WiFi Tether Router, from the playstore works flawlessly.
I use it daily.
FireKatv3 is insane...
I've mentioned in another post where I would much rather use a 3rd party tethering app over a baked in one any day. More setting options....therefore, with me even if a ROM had it baked in, I wouldn't be using it anyway.
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wase4711 said:
the great thing about Cyanogen for our phone will be that will open the doors for all sorts of AOSP roms; Cyanogen mod is a very stripped down version of AOSP, but there are fantastic AOSP roms out there, (SlimRom, ParaNoidAndroid,AOKP) are a few that come to mind, and, they come with mods and fixes that bring ALOT of the stuff you get on the stock TouchWiz roms, just with different software; and,regardless of what anyone says, NO touchwiz rom will be as light, swift, slick and fast as an AOSP rom.
I too would be curious to see how this phone would scream with an AOSP rom, and I'm sure it wont be long till a few of them start showing up; but, usually Cyanogen Mod will be the first one that gets ported for a newly released phone..
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Yes it'll be screaming fast, no denying that. But unlike before where there was a huge gap between asop roms vs stock tw....from my crazy smooth experience so far with the newly refined TW (thanks to FireKatv3), that gap has closed a lot.
It's nice to finally be able to go fast and in luxury without sacrificing luxury for performance like before.
Most people buy the note for the note experience to enjoy the luxury that it offers while being equipped with a v12 monster.
IMO, Why buy a Bentley just to strip it of its luxury? Why not just downgrade and buy a Nexus 6? Answer? Because even in this scenerio the N4 is still better. Fair enough.
A stripped down Bently (asop) is obviously going to be faster than the one (stock) still having its hand stitched leather seats that does weigh a ton. But, thanks to a highly refined ROM like FireKatv3, that v12 beast is tuned to provide more power to balance out the power to weight ratio, while still being naturally aspirated. That's impressive.
All credit to Mega (the dev) of FireKatv3, but I'm pretty darn happy about my experience so far running on stock kernel and hitting 50k+. Now regardless of any opinions on benchmarks and real world experience, the fact remains that my real world experience is more than enough to justify my 50k+ bench score.
I've yet to see any other ROM do that.
So I'll see yall asop'ers at the drag strip and give you a run for the money. It'll be good fun. [emoji106]

Aosp Roms

Hey guys. I searched for some answers but came up empty handed. My question is how come we don't have any aosp Roms yet? Are there any in the works? Is there something particular holding back their development? Just got my note 5 recently and trying to catch up on the development here.
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Sadly this is why : http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
Even if Samsung opens up it's too late as many of the talented people have long gone. Also with Samsung making TW less bloaty (With built in theme support) and Xposed you really don't need a AOSP rom much anymore.

Thanks for sharing. That's a bummer I looked but didn't come up on that article. I just prefer an aosp rom option. I usually nand my favorite tw and favorite aosp Roms to switch up when I'm bored
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Get the Nexus 6P for AOSP

rawdaddymagraden said:
Thanks for sharing. That's a bummer I looked but didn't come up on that article. I just prefer an aosp rom option. I usually nand my favorite tw and favorite aosp Roms to switch up when I'm bored
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The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.

I wish it was that easy. I used my two Jumps this year, first on the g4 which I hated and the second on this. I don't have another till july. But I am thoroughly happy with this phone just wish I had the option to use aosp as it is updated and waiting for Samsung to update is pain staking.
idle0095 said:
Get the Nexus 6P for AOSP
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The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.
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I don't have this issue or I guess it doesn't affect me for what I use my phone for. Not sure
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Maybe I'm just a hardcore user as I notice most people don't have their phones as customized and set up as mine. I'm guessing Samsung has optimized the S6/Note5 for 99% of the other normal users who don't multitask much.

download a kernel and lower the lmk

ickyboo said:
The only downside to the Note 5 imho is the ****ty multi tasking/ram issue. I've tried all the build.prop and kernel fixes but non of them seem to work for me. I usually have more than 6 apps running in the background like titanium backup,cool tools,dreamlab,daemon sync,Google Photos and a bunch of other stuff that I NEED and the damn Note 5 keeps on killing them proccesses. I know it's certainly TW doing it as I have the exact same apps running on my LG G Pro 2 and it doesn't randomly kill tasks.
Anyhoo that's just my rant on the only thing I hate about this device, Otherwise I actually like it a lot.
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i also Have a Nexus 6 and its the same, in fact, none of my Android phones has actually keep programs open in background for long period, no matter wich Rom i use. After while it needs to reopen the app