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is it me or is it the rom developments for incs has slowed down significantly?
i dont see any new roms popping up.. most of the recently active roms have slowed down too.. are we getting left behind?

think (hope) it will pickup after first official ICS Sense roms starts to leak. on the other hand, incredible S is starting to be a bit outdated (although it has some decent hardware), more focus seems to be on the dual core, more popular devices. we gotta admit, incredible s isn't that popular - we don't even officially have it on any carriers in my country.

I think the main cause is 'android fragmentation'. You may have heard of this term before. There's too many android devices, each further HTC device release caused all of us to separate into different development sections.
Back in the G1, Nexus one days it was much easier since there were relatively few devices..
Now all the new stuff's out, lots of people want to jump to Galaxy Nexus, so on.
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andrei.je said:
think (hope) it will pickup after first official ICS Sense roms starts to leak. on the other hand, incredible S is starting to be a bit outdated (although it has some decent hardware), more focus seems to be on the dual core, more popular devices. we gotta admit, incredible s isn't that popular - we don't even officially have it on any carriers in my country.
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The funny thing is dual core doesn't offer much improvement over the single, it seems like a lot of hype going on over nothing. probably over 3/4th or I dare say 90+% of the market is still written for single core applications.
I have the asus transformer 1 and most times I feel like performance is on par if not the same with the IncS, but when compared to my HTC Flyer (View) it feels much speedier since it's got a 1.5Ghz clock speed, the extra 500mhz shows sometimes. It takes heavy games like Shadowgun to see the difference between all devices, which can't be seen much in general surfing and regular phone related app use.
This is one thing that Apple has the advantage to in their gameplay strategy for devs, since they keep the releases specific, once a year. Development of their devices can be pooled and properly 'coordinated' without them moving onto different branches due to hardware, SoC, camera issues and so on.

Agree, if the first ICS HTC ROMs are leaked, development will gain momentum.
Right now, lots of work is spent on getting the camera working in ICS AOSP.

also, we gotta look at this ROM development as a hobby of the devs, one that usually starts with enthusiasm but over time proves to be very time consuming and falls last on their list of priorities. and unfortunately not a lot of people are willing or have the knowledge to fill in for the devs that get out of the game. i'm still reading up on android basics and kernel development, trying to make my first mix. Custom ROM development won't pay the bills, its mostly charity work.
You got to be grateful and appreciate their work.

Just last week there was a developer inviting testers for his vivo port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475459 and yet strangely, I don't see you contributing anything to the thread... in fact the response from the whole incredible s community was actually pretty unwelcoming. If I was a developer I would bypass this phone also, which seems to be pretty much what happened 6+ months ago.

Somehow, I missed that thread. I tend to not really read the index in general section often but I read the index of the dev section frequently.
I'm trying to jumpstart some action into the IncS, may not be much, but I have been building CM7.2 kangs and in the middle of testing building a CM9 kang, see how it goes.

Nonverbose said:
Just last week there was a developer inviting testers for his vivo port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475459 and yet strangely, I don't see you contributing anything to the thread... in fact the response from the whole incredible s community was actually pretty unwelcoming. If I was a developer I would bypass this phone also, which seems to be pretty much what happened 6+ months ago.
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i seemed to have missed his thread. will go over and take a look now
andrei.je said:
also, we gotta look at this ROM development as a hobby of the devs, one that usually starts with enthusiasm but over time proves to be very time consuming and falls last on their list of priorities. and unfortunately not a lot of people are willing or have the knowledge to fill in for the devs that get out of the game. i'm still reading up on android basics and kernel development, trying to make my first mix. Custom ROM development won't pay the bills, its mostly charity work.
You got to be grateful and appreciate their work.
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i understand that, but the point that i want to point out here is that is our device getting left behind? im already thinking whether to sell my incs off and get a sensation instead but thinking back how hard nik and the guys worked so hard, it held me back for a moment

So you need to flash your phone 5 times or more per day to be satisfied? Why not use it instead? Heavy case of ORD .

hey bro,see this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490881

bigeyes0x0 said:
So you need to flash your phone 5 times or more per day to be satisfied? Why not use it instead? Heavy case of ORD .
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lol ORD. not that man.. it's just that i see new roms popping out in the dhd section and the people there are always active and they never sleep. just wondering how can the dhd (old phone) be more popular than incs (newer) lol
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hey bro,see this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490881
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i saw it bro. im pretty much worked up right now haha~ cant wait to try it!

There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .

bigeyes0x0 said:
There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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Amen bro!
I'm with you in every word you said!
+1 for your post.
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bigeyes0x0 said:
There's a lot of things ppl can "masturbate" to with their phones. Like popularity with more ROMs like Desire HD, Sensation, Galaxy S2. I do it to longer battery life, better camera, radio reception, and it also fit better in my hands and palms ( at least compared to the DHD). More ROMs do not mean better quality ROMs, I'm fully satisfied right now with ARHD, and with the state of Quattro, I haven't even tried it. We're getting ICS officially that's good enough, I can wait for another stable custom ROM based on that. Be happy with what you know and have, ignorant is bliss. And I'm kinda gettings tired of ORD myself, maybe a case of cured one, until something remarkable new popped up .
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It's like you said =)
Sometimes you don't need a lot of things to have a great experience.
I remember back in the LG P500 days, there was only one rom and one kernel and the thing was fantastic.Even later new tweaks came,new roms,new kernels but the simpler ones were the best.
I like very much nikhil007mmus's work and Virtuous Team work, both very stable and fast.
I even suggested nikhil007mmus to talk with Francisco Franco to share some ideas to make even greater kernels for our device (kernel devs, don't get me wrong, I am not saying your work is bad, I don't even test it, but what I do know is that this man makes GREAT kernels, with great performance,great battery life and it keeps them simple.I tested his kernels in the P500 (Wich made the thing fast as hell (For a 600MHz device of course) and in the Nexus S (I got 2 full days of battery life with wifi,3g,lots of calls,etc etc and fast as hell).
Hope it get's even better here =)

Problem is the Incredible S was not a popular phone to begin among devs. Not like the Nexus One, Desire HD, Sensation and Galaxy S II.
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The bad and nice thing of HTC phones is, they have a bunch of devices with practically nearly identical internal HW. Thus you don't actually really need that many devs on one device in particular. The way I see it, quality is way more important, we already have Android fragmentation like some say, now we also have custom ROM fragmentation . All Sense 3.5 roms failed for me when toggling data. It would not be that much of a problem on Samsung as they don't disable data during call, but HTC do, and sometimes after call data doesn't come up which is a major problem for me as I need auto-sync for a bunch of services and it is the most annoying bug of all. I wish devs collaborated more for less ROMs but better quality. It also means less duplicated effort.
For now I'm using a ROM Cleaned ARHD 2.1.3 with Ultra Smooth Rosie, batt mod, odexed, and some tweaks in init.d. It's smooth like butter and I think that I can be happy until whenever ICS comes out, unless some Sense 3.5 custom ROM devs fixed the bug above. Just use your phone, the best is yet to come. And if you're too trigger happy buy Samsung GSII to flash around and chaotic development. My brother has one and I am actually the one modding it for him. It's insanely fast yet I do not want it (because of aesthetic, functional reasons and knowing what is enough) even though I can afford it.

Fast and Very Light ROM

Hi,
I'm looking for a fast and light ROM. I have a Nexus 4 now so my tablet is pretty much just used for taking notes at University and watching the occasional YouTube video.
I looked and managed to find AOKP M6 Slim, however this seems to be discontinued and as a result, outdated.
If installing a more feature-heavy ROM and removing features is viable, could someone point me in the right direction to do that?
Thanks in advance.

codefireX.
Best ROM available, performance wise.
Still very rich in features and customization. Includes option to turn off nearly all aftermarket customizations and features, besides performance ones.
I highly suggest pairing with motley kernel.
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Cm10.1
Super close to stock. They're really up on responsible coding. Nothing that goes against AOSP. All about just working.
I usually go in through titanium backup and remove programs I don't need
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I like Paranoid Android but you are going to get a different response from everyone. PA runs really smooth for me. It is not as feature filled as a lot of the other roms but gives some nice customization options. PIE control is also really nice as it allows you to take advantage of the entire screen.
The bottom line is that the only way to find the best ROM for you is to do some research and flash a few different ones. Try them for a few days and then switch if you are not pleased/get bored.

liquid smooth
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Rasbean. But that's the benefit of owning a nexus, you have so many options.
But I'm pretty positive once you flash rasbean, you won't flash anything else. I would advise flashing other roms first and then go to rasbean. You'll notice the difference.
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Carbon is smooth and customizable. My new favorite
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I love that everyone posted a different ROM.

I fell in love with Xylon, it has A TON of features and customizations. I think it borrows (kang) popular features from a lot of ROMs and all the features are optional. Not to mention the ROM is super fast and smooth which I wouldn't expect from A ROM with so many features.
I personally use the custom faux kernel with it, makes the ROM that much slicker, and my battery lasts for an entire day.
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To all Cm 10.1 users
I'm on stock ROM 4.2.2 , it's pretty fast stable and battery life is much much better than my previous phone GS3.
CM10.1 was unstable on GS3 and had alot of bugs.
Any annoying bugs on Cm10.1 for N4?
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uronfire said:
To all Cm 10.1 users
I'm on stock ROM 4.2.2 , it's pretty fast stable and battery life is much much better than my previous phone GS3.
CM10.1 was unstable on GS3 and had alot of bugs.
Any annoying bugs on Cm10.1 for N4?
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The bugs on the Samsung are due to the difficulty obtaining sources from Samsung. No such problem on the Nexus, and CyanogenMod is as stable as stock and you get the extra features to boot.
ALL of the roms for the Nexus 4 are fast because the phone is fast. I doubt anyone could tell the difference without running benchmarks so you should really just try a few and make a choice based on which feature set you like.
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dr.m0x said:
The bugs on the Samsung are due to the difficulty obtaining sources from Samsung. No such problem on the Nexus, and CyanogenMod is as stable as stock and you get the extra features to boot.
ALL of the roms for the Nexus 4 are fast because the phone is fast. I doubt anyone could tell the difference without running benchmarks so you should really just try a few and make a choice based on which feature set you like.
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You sir are correct. CM10 on Nexus 4 is the best combination of lightweight and customisable so far that I've seen.

This is borderline a "which is the best ROM" thread and we all know how those turn out. Every ROM I've ever seen claims to be "light and fast" either directly or indirectly..
To the OP.. There are piles and piles of people making ROMs and kernels for this phone. It's one of the most active development communites I've seen in ages. Take advantage of it! No one can pick one for you.. Drop by the development forums, read, read, then read some more.. Pick 5 ROMs that sound up your alley and give them a try.. I'd suggest a ROM a week until you find one you are satisfied with.
Goodluck and enjoy your Nexus!

Best part about coming to a Nexus forum is being confused about what ROM to flash. Always so many great ones to choose from. lol. :laugh:

So damn true, there are so many ROM's from so many great developers you do really get lost even when going through all of the topics.
So the best bet would be to try it for yourself and flash a few ROM's until you find the one you like.
P.S - this phone is so quick so i doubt really anyone can find a difference in performance between Rom's.
Have fun

^ there is a difference but I feel it lies within the individual kernels. I've been testing kernels for about two weeks and find myself always coming back to trinity 97, even with 4.2.2 its smooth and battery life is insane. I've bounced from ROM to ROM and find xylon the smoothest. Once rasbean goes 4.2.2 I'll give it a shot. There are so many Roms and they are all *good. *everyone has their opinions and all the devs here put a lot of work and time in and all deserve the respect they get. As far as a “light" ROM goes slim bean would be the lightest coming in at under 110mb zip file, then you'll need gapps and they have minimal gapps available at around 25mb.

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I love that everyone posted a different ROM.
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Hence, why these threads are so pointless.
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Confused why?

If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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felacio said:
Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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I remember gingerbread running pretty nicely on my OG Evo as well. I do A LOT of different things on my phone (as I'm sure most of us do ), but there would always be something I could find. Guess it's just me being nitpicky lol. Didn't you release a Rom or 2 over there?
I love this newest version of sense, miss some of the old sense widgets though. The zoe feature is top notch, and the camera pics are better then any mobile phone camera I've ever used. And I also have to admit, I'm in love with Blinkfeed. Everything right on the homescreen that I want to read, and some things I didn't, but found out that I did lol. All around I think it's a great os. I'm curious to try out some aosp on the One but I don't know if I'm willing to give up those features. I'm also intimidated about the internal data moving around between aosp and sense, and having to manually move it around. That's why to me right now it's not worth the change. Well have to see what's in store for the future.
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I know on my evo shift aosp ran flawless and fast as all getout.... I suppose the benefits on a device this fast would simply be the fact that its the latest android release 4.2.2 as opposed to whatever android version sense is (currently 4.1.2). Honestly for the enrichment that sense brings I don't see it getting nearly as popular on the one unless klp brings some killer features. Until the next iteration of sense comes out and we get that update....

I'm with ya OP I just don't understand the reasoning. But some people are just purists I suppose and want stock Android for some reason. I've personally always thought of AOSP was kind of moving and meh.
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I tried CM10.1 for a few days it's night and day more fluid. If it gets fully functional bye bye blink feed.
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I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!

gonowhere said:
I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!
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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.

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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.
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Right..I was a junkie for all the things you could when I first learned about rooting, I was reading forums ALL the time!!!

Another thing to add is that Sense 5 is much more transparent to Android. You see a lot more of AOSP in the new version of Sense, like the notification menu, some of the text editing, etc. Personally, I like Sense over AOSP because AOSP to me seems just too basic. And this is a good in between to where I've actually been happy with it. Sense 3 and 4 were just way too in your face, but I liked it because it was Sense. I now see it more because I have the One. At this point, if HTC stays with it's values on Sense 5, and continues to innovate, more people will likely stay.

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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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That's because all AOSP ROMs are a hack. I'm sure it will be as fully functional and stable as any OEM Sense ROM.
The CM Project has some of it's own code. But they don't have access to firmware and they need to play together. HTC and Carriers have access to everything.
People always think open source means Open everything. It's almost always a Hybrid with some propriety pieces that are not released and the "public" code is always lagging in what's released.
Some things done on AOSP are reverse engineered when they don't have source for something (or the latest source).
I've yet to see a AOSP ROM CM have a FULLY functional GPS. Nor have the ## codes ever worked which I find really useful.
By the time they (Sprint HTC CDMA Android phones) are Officially Supported (if at all) it's over a year and the next generation is released.
Unofficial AOSP (CM) is always behind.

To answer Ops question, some ppl like the pure android experience. AOSP Roms are usually the 1st to be updated to the latest version of android. Also, AOSP Roms take up less memory than Sense roms. There are some features I actually miss from CM/AOSP like widgets in lockscreen, 4.2 quick toggles from notification drawer, quick reply to text from notification drawer, 4.2 photosphere, etc. I used to just run CM on all my devices when available but I'm actually liking Sense 5. For me, I'm happy with it and don't see myself flashing AOSP any time soon
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I think on dated HTC phones aosp was the way to go because sense was over bearing.. aosp came along way as far as functionality and features. Aosp opened development to things like cm, pa, rootbox, akop with things we never have on sense. Now on the other hand sense 5 is the sweet spot and with the camera features how sense is more incorporated into android opposed to how sense just ran on top and took control. Sense 5 is more like Pippen to Jordan rather than Shaq and Koby both wanting the stardom at one point
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Sense is one of the reason I use HTC. I tried a few asop roms on my ol g evo (loved that phone)and never liked them as much.
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Has anyone ported a sense Rom for a device from a different brand
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I am with the op as well. I use HTC devices because of sense. I would just use a nexus if I wanted aosp. Just a matter of personal preference I guess.
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Well right now there isn't much advantage. But when key lime pie lands and then L whatever it becomes a lot more appealing. HTC won't keep this updated for the two years I will own this phone but I will still want to play with next great thing and not be stuck here. Usually bounce between ASOP and the newest sense that gets ported.
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I was a AOSP user for awhile on my cdma htc hero and my lg optimus s (AOSP made them less sluggish). But I always had some sort of bug. When I bought the S3 I was excited because the phone is so popular I figured AOSP would run really well and the bugs would be gone....Needless to say it was always too buggy for me (and if you goto the cyanogenmod thread there is always someone reporting a bug). So I stuck with touchwiz but didnt like the look so I themed it and honestly I was pretty content. A large part of why I like cyanogen is because it looks really nice.
The new sense hit it out of the park IMO and is a great base to tweek up even better than touchwiz. Looks wise its awesome and it has many good features. I am now going to root and install a custom rom based off of stock. Stock tweaked rooms seem to be where its at right now.
Im not going to lie if I could choose plain android vs sense I might choose android but the choice between modded AOSP (buggy) and stock modded is simple.

also it's the battery life of aosp roms, usually cm roms easily doubles battery life for me, on the lte i could easily go 1 day and half on my batt when most on sense couldn't make it thru a day being a heavy user, there are pros and cons to sense and cm

I decided to try vanilla Android and brought a Nexus 4 and guess what? Guess they call it vanilla for a reason. It was absolutely the boringness phone I have ever had. I only lasted 2 weeks with the phone before I gave up on it.
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I'm runnin the latest cm nightly and alls well... Like aosp sometimes... Fun to change it up just because... I can!
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Roms etc. to check out?

Howdy.
Took advantage of the latest google offer to get myself a Nexus 4 - my Razr i just had literally no development and a lot of apps wouldn't even run due to x86 architecture! Arggh!
So anyway, mine is arriving soon (hopefully) and I'd like some pointers on what to check out first - Cyanogen is always worth considering of course
I mainly look for a good kernal to save me power but not skimp out on horse power when needed - a good deep sleep/idle function
Also a lightweight rom which is very snappy, I'm sure I'll find some roms to love based on the sheer amount of development on this section! Send your suggestions in and I'll be sure to check them out! :good::good::good:

mrapoc said:
Howdy.
Took advantage of the latest google offer to get myself a Nexus 4 - my Razr i just had literally no development and a lot of apps wouldn't even run due to x86 architecture! Arggh!
So anyway, mine is arriving soon (hopefully) and I'd like some pointers on what to check out first - Cyanogen is always worth considering of course
I mainly look for a good kernal to save me power but not skimp out on horse power when needed - a good deep sleep/idle function
Also a lightweight rom which is very snappy, I'm sure I'll find some roms to love based on the sheer amount of development on this section! Send your suggestions in and I'll be sure to check them out! :good::good::good:
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First, Franco kernel is amazing ! make sure to set governor CPU on "interactive" and GPU on "ondemand".
MBQ_'s Vanir is by far the snappiest i'v experienced (and I have flashed dem roms ).
Me personally, I find Stock + Franco to work the best.

nathan96 said:
First, Franco kernel is amazing ! make sure to set governor CPU on "interactive" and GPU on "ondemand".
MBQ_'s Vanir is by far the snappiest i'v experienced (and I have flashed dem roms ).
Me personally, I find Stock + Franco to work the best.
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Awesome I'll make sure to check it out! Obviously each rom is going to be good for different things but having never owned a nexus device I'm usually romming to get rid of bloatware from motorola/HTC etc. so I suppose the advantages are usually additional features for nexus devices

mrapoc said:
Awesome I'll make sure to check it out! Obviously each rom is going to be good for different things but having never owned a nexus device I'm usually romming to get rid of bloatware from motorola/HTC etc. so I suppose the advantages are usually additional features for nexus devices
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Exactly Best rom the has a lot of features, while maintaining preformance, stability and battery life is deffinatly Paranoid Android. They do amazing innovation in the Android field. Im flashing latest PA build as we speak.

nathan96 said:
Exactly Best rom the has a lot of features, while maintaining preformance, stability and battery life is deffinatly Paranoid Android. They do amazing innovation in the Android field. Im flashing latest PA build as we speak.
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Sounds great
Put it this way, i went from HTC desire where I could change roms weekly - finally settling on oxygen which was totally stock android and great
Then Razr i - it took 7 months or something to even get jelly bean, 0 roms and now we finally have like two to choose from? They are good in terms of i'm not a developer and i appreciate what they do, but both are riddled with bugs

mrapoc said:
Sounds great
Put it this way, i went from HTC desire where I could change roms weekly - finally settling on oxygen which was totally stock android and great
Then Razr i - it took 7 months or something to even get jelly bean, 0 roms and now we finally have like two to choose from? They are good in terms of i'm not a developer and i appreciate what they do, but both are riddled with bugs
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Well, you are going to enjoy the Nexus experience
Wellcome!

Saves me the hassle of creating a thread like this.
So I guess my nexus ( which will hopefully arrive later) will be getting PA.
Do I unlock the bootloader with "fastboot OEM unlock" to flash custom recoveries etc? I come from a HTC phone so forgive if this question sounds stupid to you
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Oxious119 said:
Saves me the hassle of creating a thread like this.
So I guess my nexus ( which will hopefully arrive later) will be getting PA.
Do I unlock the bootloader with "fastboot OEM unlock" to flash custom recoveries etc? I come from a HTC phone so forgive if this question sounds stupid to you
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Glad it can be of help - i dont want to take away from other developers of roms, but a starting place is always handy especially considering the sheer amount of development this phone has!
Anyway, i'll be following this guide when I get mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGZuxeTvWhY
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n0In32vjxIg

I've never really liked PA because of the different modes (phone, phablet, tablet, etc) would make if hard to modify everything easily for me (but thats cause i dont like phablet or tablet modes, prefer stock phone style)... Im using crDroid and it runs great with purified kernel. Ive tried Vanir and that one also was pretty good
You should do what i did, flash a few and test them out. They all have different variations of features...

pottyvick said:
I've never really liked PA because of the different modes (phone, phablet, tablet, etc) would make if hard to modify everything easily for me (but thats cause i dont like phablet or tablet modes, prefer stock phone style)... Im using crDroid and it runs great with purified kernel. Ive tried Vanir and that one also was pretty good
You should do what i did, flash a few and test them out. They all have different variations of features...
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Yeh I'm looking for a shortlist of the best of the best really

mrapoc said:
Yeh I'm looking for a shortlist of the best of the best really
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And you have them... PA, crDroid, and Vanir to start...

Welcome!
I love customizing everything, so from the beginning I was on AOKP. Loved it but i think it was a little heavier than necessary..
after that I used Xylon - ( now Uxylon) which was awesome, smooth and fast, plenty of features.. but its still 4.2.2, so I had to leave it behind eventually.
Currently I'm on Slim Rom Beta, 4.3 and I'm loving it. So give it a try!

Rocking Purity & AK kernel today and loving it

Most of the roms are good in their own way...
if you want speed or customization...

Slimbean is great and of course psx
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You can also check a thread in general about a poll on which rom people are using. i mean, just based from that, you can have the number of nexus 4 users, what the best rom in common people use (you wouldn't know your best if you hadn't tried the others right?) and just a few mods also you can use that will give you what you want. Just have fun in the mako forum and all the best mate :good:

Rasbeanjelly and PSX are great if you are looking for a pure and latest AOSP experience.
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Vanir, PSX, Rasbean
neo kernel, faux kernel, Hells core, AK JSS
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Got the phone, unlocked, flashed latest pa and xposed. I'm very satisfied so far. My HTC one s didn't come close to this at all.
Now I have 2 questions. What's this JSS and JWW all about?
And can anyone recommend a kernel for PA?
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Carbon

CyanogenMod for Note 4

Do anybody know when we will get CyanogenMod for our Note 4 yet?

Sure 9 Sundays from now. Or was 5 Fridays not count every other one .. Time will tell..

No, nobody knows.

legacy3566 said:
Do anybody know when we will get CyanogenMod for our Note 4 yet?
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Two weeks.

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
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How is this better than the cook ROM that others have done?

chong67 said:
How is this better than the cook ROM that others have done?
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Cyanogen/AOSP is pure android without all the unnecessary graphics, designs and bloat from Samsung.
Minimal design = stronger processor strength.
Plus, pure stock Android is just better.

XDA has gone to $hit. He asked a simple question. Why does everyone need to be a$$holes?

suzook said:
XDA has gone to $hit. He asked a simple question. Why does everyone need to be a$$holes?
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I see. I guess this is similar to Nexus phone.? Stock android?
Then stock stuff miss alot of things like no notifcations with running count, like on your voice messages or txt. Then we need to install launcher. Then we back to the same thing?

Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.

dkb218 said:
Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring ass Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.
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Because Note devices have the top of the line and updated processors. In other words, fastest/strongest processors on the market at the time of release.
You will never see the full capacity of this processor until you're on Pure Android.
And that's what I love. This beastly processor on bare Android.
Perfection.

chong67 said:
I see. I guess this is similar to Nexus phone.? Stock android?
Then stock stuff miss alot of things like no notifcations with running count, like on your voice messages or txt. Then we need to install launcher. Then we back to the same thing?
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To get rid of the icon badges, disable BadgeProvider (in Application Manager).

I agree with you. IMO (<- take note of that before anyone gets butt hurt.) I think "some" people don't realize how much TW has improved. It's pretty awesome on the Note 4 and for those who like TW can definitely tell how far it has come.
CM is boring and IMO it takes away from the Notes DNA of what makes a Note a Note. If I just cared about having the best piece of hardware with a big screen, I'd still want something pleasing to look at than a black and white movie.
Like I've said earlier....
...and it's nice to be able to drive a McLaren P1 and do the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds as oppose to driving a gutted Honda Civic fully modded with no interior w/ a welded roll cage and helment running 9's in the 1/4. Chicks dig luxury, performance and comfort..."
IMO for anyone wanting CM, they should just the Nexus 6 or an iphone LOL. The fact remains that the new TW is very efficient and there are enough customizations you can do with wanam/xpose to be able to enjoy all the benefits of CM or not, depending on your style and preference. I am confident to give CM a run for its money on AnTuTu along with other benchmarks, because the truth is, with TW already running 50K+ on stock kernel, anything above this wouldn't really be noticeable if at all. Heck even anything below that wouldn't really make a difference in the real world with normal usage. Therefore, although all this doesn't really matter, I think it'll be fun to explore the close race between TW and CM. I'm game for it....bring it on. There won't be a big enough gap to even make CM justifiable IMO. Plus, the girl will want to ride in my car, not the gutted honda civic. Be a gentleman, and treat her like a lady. LOL j/k.
At the end of the day, it's your phone and you can do whatever the heck your heart desires. :highfive:
Bottom line, just be happy to know that you own the best darn device available and enjoy!
dkb218 said:
Why buy a Note device if you want stock boring ass Android? Never understood that.
IMHO - CyanogenMod is just plain boring. I understood the need for it way back in the G1 days. Maybe now in place of vanilla Android but as a rom on a Note 4? Hells no.
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iunlock said:
I agree with you. IMO (<- take note of that before anyone gets butt hurt.) I think "some" people don't realize how much TW has improved. It's pretty awesome on the Note 4 and for those who like TW can definitely tell how far it has come.
CM is boring and IMO it takes away from the Notes DNA of what makes a Note a Note. If I just cared about having the best piece of hardware with a big screen, I'd still want something pleasing to look at than a black and white movie.
Like I've said earlier....
...and it's nice to be able to drive a McLaren P1 and do the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds as oppose to driving a gutted Honda Civic fully modded with no interior w/ a welded roll cage and helment running 9's in the 1/4. Chicks dig luxury, performance and comfort..."
IMO for anyone wanting CM, they should just the Nexus 6 or an iphone LOL. The fact remains that the new TW is very efficient and there are enough customizations you can do with wanam/xpose to be able to enjoy all the benefits of CM or not, depending on your style and preference. I am confident to give CM a run for its money on AnTuTu along with other benchmarks, because the truth is, with TW already running 50K+ on stock kernel, anything above this wouldn't really be noticeable if at all. Heck even anything below that wouldn't really make a difference in the real world with normal usage. Therefore, although all this doesn't really matter, I think it'll be fun to explore the close race between TW and CM. I'm game for it....bring it on. There won't be a big enough gap to even make CM justifiable IMO. Plus, the girl will want to ride in my car, not the gutted honda civic. Be a gentleman, and treat her like a lady. LOL j/k.
At the end of the day, it's your phone and you can do whatever the heck your heart desires. :highfive:
Bottom, just be happy to know that you own the best darn device available and enjoy!
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5.0 Lollipop for Samsung is supposed to have a very material look.
If that's the case than the AOSP Roms aren't going to be the best out there.

The whole 5.0 thing is making me a little nervous. But then again didn't we have this scare before? I don't know....darn Google....
devynbf said:
5.0 Lollipop for Samsung is supposed to have a very material look.
If that's the case than the AOSP Roms aren't going to be the best out there.
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Coming from Verizon, it is a welcome change to have an unlocked bootloader, and the choice to drive the custom muscle car or the luxury car.
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You can drive both with the N4 especially with the availability of some awesome ROM's.....You seem like a car guy...if you want the performance of a fully gutted drag car with the luxury of a S Class, try the FireKatv3 ROM. You won't be disappointed. It's so crazy light and freakin' fast as heck.
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Coming from Verizon, it is a welcome change to have an unlocked bootloader, and the choice to drive the custom muscle car or the luxury car.
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iunlock said:
You can drive both with the N4 especially with the availability of some awesome ROM's.....You seem like a car guy...if you want the performance of a fully gutted drag car with the luxury of a S Class, try the FireKatv3 ROM. You won't be disappointed. It's so crazy light and freakin' fast as heck.
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I really want to try that Ron but I need Unlimited tethering so I don't think
That rom supports it

the great thing about Cyanogen for our phone will be that will open the doors for all sorts of AOSP roms; Cyanogen mod is a very stripped down version of AOSP, but there are fantastic AOSP roms out there, (SlimRom, ParaNoidAndroid,AOKP) are a few that come to mind, and, they come with mods and fixes that bring ALOT of the stuff you get on the stock TouchWiz roms, just with different software; and,regardless of what anyone says, NO touchwiz rom will be as light, swift, slick and fast as an AOSP rom.
I too would be curious to see how this phone would scream with an AOSP rom, and I'm sure it wont be long till a few of them start showing up; but, usually Cyanogen Mod will be the first one that gets ported for a newly released phone..

bambam126 said:
I really want to try that Ron but I need Unlimited tethering so I don't think
That rom supports it
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WiFi Tether Router, from the playstore works flawlessly.
I use it daily.
FireKatv3 is insane...
I've mentioned in another post where I would much rather use a 3rd party tethering app over a baked in one any day. More setting options....therefore, with me even if a ROM had it baked in, I wouldn't be using it anyway.
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wase4711 said:
the great thing about Cyanogen for our phone will be that will open the doors for all sorts of AOSP roms; Cyanogen mod is a very stripped down version of AOSP, but there are fantastic AOSP roms out there, (SlimRom, ParaNoidAndroid,AOKP) are a few that come to mind, and, they come with mods and fixes that bring ALOT of the stuff you get on the stock TouchWiz roms, just with different software; and,regardless of what anyone says, NO touchwiz rom will be as light, swift, slick and fast as an AOSP rom.
I too would be curious to see how this phone would scream with an AOSP rom, and I'm sure it wont be long till a few of them start showing up; but, usually Cyanogen Mod will be the first one that gets ported for a newly released phone..
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Yes it'll be screaming fast, no denying that. But unlike before where there was a huge gap between asop roms vs stock tw....from my crazy smooth experience so far with the newly refined TW (thanks to FireKatv3), that gap has closed a lot.
It's nice to finally be able to go fast and in luxury without sacrificing luxury for performance like before.
Most people buy the note for the note experience to enjoy the luxury that it offers while being equipped with a v12 monster.
IMO, Why buy a Bentley just to strip it of its luxury? Why not just downgrade and buy a Nexus 6? Answer? Because even in this scenerio the N4 is still better. Fair enough.
A stripped down Bently (asop) is obviously going to be faster than the one (stock) still having its hand stitched leather seats that does weigh a ton. But, thanks to a highly refined ROM like FireKatv3, that v12 beast is tuned to provide more power to balance out the power to weight ratio, while still being naturally aspirated. That's impressive.
All credit to Mega (the dev) of FireKatv3, but I'm pretty darn happy about my experience so far running on stock kernel and hitting 50k+. Now regardless of any opinions on benchmarks and real world experience, the fact remains that my real world experience is more than enough to justify my 50k+ bench score.
I've yet to see any other ROM do that.
So I'll see yall asop'ers at the drag strip and give you a run for the money. It'll be good fun. [emoji106]