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No need for 4.2

Kind of funny but I've been thinking about this. 4.2 is almost an update designed to make bare bones aosp android better, and does almost nothing for a phone with a manufacturer skin. 4.1 would be great on this phone with project butter, better notifications, and Google now, but here's the rundown on 4.2 features:
Better camera app: sense 3.6 already has a nicer one than aosp. No photosphere but its kinda of a gimmick "look what my phone can do" feature anyway. The stock camera app has always sucked until 4.2 and the update finally brings it up to par with custom ui's, but does nothing for us.
Improved lockscreen with widget support : sense pretty much has the best lockscreen with shortcut support and notification widgets that appear through sense apps. Custom widget support would be nice but aosp still doesn't have shortcut support.
Gesture typing: yep, we got it on the stock "touch input" keyboard. next
Quick settings : yep sense has that too
Tv out support : while we don't have miracast support, about every htc device post evo 4G has either an hdmi port or mhl support. I'm sure the vivid is no different, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Better alarm clock app : the aosp alarm clock app has always been an after thought until 4.2,however ui's like sense and touchwiz have always had really nice alarm clock apps and the 4.2 app really just brings stock aosp up to par with the ui's
User profiles: this feature is tablet only and disabled on the phones so the vivid wouldn't get it anyway.
I think that's about it. So there you have it! I really kind of believe 4.2 is catered to nexus devices, and I honestly could see a lot of manufacturers passing on this as if they do update, then it'll be little more than a version number change. If you're in the market for a non nexus phone and it has 4.1, then your already up to date.
Just something I thought about. Thoughts?
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And before anyone calls me out, I got a nexus 7, so I use 4.2 on a daily basis, so I'm not just posting on stuff I've read lol.
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I have a nexus 7 also and personally I'd like to see 4.2 on the vivid because I HATE sense.... Didn't realize how much I didn't like it until I played with pure android. But I'm guessing that if we can't get CM10 to work on this phone, there'd be no reason to worry about 4.2 or not!
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Yeah I'm not to keen on sense either, thought it was awesome until I got a phone with it and had to use it every day. If by some Longshot we get jellybean, I hope it comes with Sense 4+ and not the underwhelming sense 3.6 that's on this phone now. From what I've seen sense 4 is world's ahead of what we have.
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Once cm10 is completed bring 4.2 will be easy as there isn't much difference between 4.1.2 and 4.3 when it comes to making things work
Anyways I love the 4.2 camera...and I think I read others here on the vivid are able to use it on ICS....
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Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Cor-master said:
Well I was nearly speaking from the perspective of stock, of course I'd want it for cm, but cm doesn't quite have 4.2 ready yet anyway. I hope you can pull it off, I might keep this thing if I can actually get away from using sense or "desensitized" roms.
Problem is with the development we've had, nothing really seems done. I'm sure there is some way to crack the ril issues, so kudos for not giving up. I know I've complained alot but really the phone is no different on stock than any other phone, it's just development hasn't been so great as the best developers keep giving up on the phone in favor of a galaxy s3 or something else.
From a stock standpoint this is better than my captivate I had before, but I would of hated the captivate if I had to be at the mercy of at&t and Samsung for updates which is where we're at with this phone currently. So best of luck to ya hope you can finally solve the dreaded ril issue!
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Lol I feel the same...but since I have the phone and at least somewhat knowledge on this stuff I figured I might as well try my best...that being said I hate HTC and will never get another one...this vivid ruined it for me. Like you say, stock wise this phone is great...but that's it. Once you go into the world of custom ROMs this phone takes a major dive to nowhere :/
And honestly...ialthough I will keep trying I don't think I'll personally ever figure out the ril/mic issue...but since we got h8rift now I think we may stand a fighting chance...he is a real dev, I'm just a contributor...hence our titles
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Yeah they can make some beautiful looking phones with excellent build quality but sense hasn't aged well and every post sensation device has been a lot less developer friendly. I almost think they feel insulted that anyone wouldn't want to use sense and feel like their phones are perfect already.
But the one x, one x+, and DROID DNA are all gorgeous looking. Hell really so is our phone. Make no mistake their phones are awesome its just the software that blows.
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HTC One with Sense or stock Android?

I'm looking for a phone to upgrade from my current HTC Desire HD. I started a couple of years ago with Sense, then reluctantly went to stock Android. Now I can't go back to Sense and a big reason is battery life. These smart phones after a year, it's all about reducing lag and increasing battery time.
So now I'm on an unofficial CM10.
Well if I get an HTC One, will I just install CM again? Is that what people do, or do you make use of HTC's software? I know how it's a personal preference, but I'm wondering if the latest Sense is so good people are sticking with it. Reviews say it's less bloat.
And if people are just going to a stock Android Rom, is it better to get this phone or the GS4 to load a stock Rom?
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I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.

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I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.
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100% agreed. I came from AOKP on my S3 (I can't stand touchwiz). I purchased the One and absolutely love sense 5. I don't believe I'll switch back. Especially since some features won't work like the beats driver and I've also heard some flaws with the camera on AOSP ROMs.
If you are worried about battery, quite frankly you shouldn't be purchasing a mini computer. Battery life is great on this phone for how powerful it is. While at work I turn on Power Saver mode and have my data connections turned off on sleep mode. When I'm off 9 hours later I'm still at 70%. If I keep everything running I'm at about 20% by the end of the night when I plug it in.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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avplaya said:
I rather like Sense 5. I came from CM10 on Sensation too and I'm happily living with Sense 5. It's simple and fast - virtually lag free. I've had crappy experiences like many of you with Sense 3.5 to 4.5, so this is a pleasant surprise. I even use blinkfeed rather often now. I plan to stay with Sense 5 custom roms for my One. Just try it, I don't think you'll miss AOSP/CM10 unless you're one of those religious types.
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+1 sense5 is smooth as butter it doesnt lag on my phone at all

asif9t9 said:
Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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Hmm.. not sure what greenify is, but I can tell you what Power Saver is. When turned on it conserves power by limiting the speed of the cpu, turns down screen brightness, disables haptic feedback, and disables data while on sleep mode. Pretty handy in my opinion. =)
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I came from the N4 running CM 10.1 and I find too sense 5 a big surprise. It's running very smooth and battery life is quite the same with my N4. I plan on staying on stock and unrooted for a while.
Power saver is not like greenify, it reduces CPU speed and even brightness if the battery level is low.

asif9t9 said:
Thanks for the advice guys. I wonder if the HTC power saver is like Greenify, which I use now.
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from what i can tell,
greenify basically ensures that apps are fully unloaded when you lock your phone... keeps the naughty apps in line.
the htc power save option basically does the usual limit screen brightness as well as cpu, turn off haptic feedback and disables data during sleep mode.
the disabling of data is a little bit of an issue for me, since i use cerberusapp and it won't let me connect (obviously)
things still sync however no longer in real time (i think it enables data on a pre-defined interval to update sync).
the good news is that you can disable these options individually so yeah i have all the power save options enabled apart from data.
i too went from a cm10 device to sense 5. i'm loving the new fresh feel, however I'm missing the notification toggles badly.

Before the HTC One, I've never owned a HTC device before and therefore never used Sense before.
Before I got this phone, I checked out some of the reviews and even done research on previous HTC models just to learn a little bit more about HTC in general.
I'd honestly read a lot of bad reviews regarding previous iterations of Sense, with the main complaints being against Sense 4.
As I'm not the kind of guy who bases my decisions on reviews they didn't stop me wanting to get the One. Afterall, even if I didn't like Sense 5 I could always flash an AOSP ROM or use a custom launcher anyway. I will admit, however, that I've got no complaints whatsoever regarding Sense 5 as it is great.
Having said that, I am currently using Apex launcher but that's just so that I can customize my homescreen more so than I can with the stock UI.

Some great replies guys, thanks. With my Desire HD, I used the ARHD rom for a while, so I stuck with the stock Sense experience, but I was rooted. I tried many times to go to CM, etc, but I always came back to Sense. I loved the Sense apps, email, etc. But eventually I had to switch because of lag. And then months later when I tried to go back to Sense, I couldn't..too slow.
So it sounds promising to me that I can basically get the HTC One, and go with the stock (but rooted of course) experience for a while. And with the specs of this phone, I'll be able to move on to the latest and great (Key Lime Pie) when it comes out.

As a rom addict, would you advise me to keep my One?

I have both the S4 and the One in front of me and one of them is going back by tonight. Still torn between the two, whatever, but there is one factor that can make my decision a lot easier. I never keep a stock rom on any phone; I prefer a stock Android experience with some of the extras included in ROMs such as PA and AOKP. From what I am hearing now, flashing non-Sense ROMs on the One takes away almost all of the bells and whistles of owning the device, like BoomSound (average audio quality) and camera quality (at least we have 13 megapixels to compensate in the S4).
For those of you who have flashed some of these early builds, how is it working for you? Do you find using the phone to not be as enjoyable as it was stock?

ovoxo. said:
I have both the S4 and the One in front of me and one of them is going back by tonight. Still torn between the two, whatever, but there is one factor that can make my decision a lot easier. I never keep a stock rom on any phone; I prefer a stock Android experience with some of the extras included in ROMs such as PA and AOKP. From what I am hearing now, flashing non-Sense ROMs on the One takes away almost all of the bells and whistles of owning the device, like BoomSound (average audio quality) and camera quality (at least we have 13 megapixels to compensate in the S4).
For those of you who have flashed some of these early builds, how is it working for you? Do you find using the phone to not be as enjoyable as it was stock?
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I flashed PA and CM and 30 minutes later i went back to stock. Battery life on any aosp based rom for me has been terrible and all the features of the stock ROM are awesome. sound quality also deteriorated and got reduced volume on the aosp roms. Also gaming. NOTHING lags on stock rom but on PA and CM games lag like crazy. graphics benchmarks get reduced to like Adreno 225 level... And then since they are still alphas there are a lot of bugs and they aren't really stable. I would go with the HTC One instead of the SGS4 because of how sexy the damn thing is. also how sense is much more tuned and less cluttered up like touchwiz is.

crzykiller said:
I flashed PA and CM and 30 minutes later i went back to stock. Battery life on any aosp based rom for me has been terrible and all the features of the stock ROM are awesome. sound quality also deteriorated and got reduced volume on the aosp roms. Also gaming. NOTHING lags on stock rom but on PA and CM games lag like crazy. graphics benchmarks get reduced to like Adreno 225 level... And then since they are still alphas there are a lot of bugs and they aren't really stable. I would go with the HTC One instead of the SGS4 because of how sexy the damn thing is. also how sense is much more tuned and less cluttered up like touchwiz is.
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Thanks for the input. I know, the One is just too sexy, but I gotta actually enjoy using it. If the functionality is practically the same as the S4 after flashing a stock rom, I might as well keep the S4. As far as the TouchWiz vs. Sense argument goes, it is irrelevant to me since I would not be keeping either one as soon as there are some stable stock builds available.

Yeah, in your case just keep the S4.

Flash Trickdroid ROM, it's a custom ROM which is also sense based and has good if not better battery life than stock ROM and certainly better than AOSP.
I'm a fan of AOSP ROM's but for the most part the battery life isn't good so I'll stick with Trickdroid
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Why do people rely on strangers to tell them what they like? I got both of them, played with them, and ended up selling the s4. Reminded me too much of the s3.
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deviusdragger said:
Why do people rely on strangers to tell them what they like? I got both of them, played with them, and ended up selling the s4. Reminded me too much of the s3.
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This isn't about people telling me what they like really. I'm simply asking about their experiences thus far with their phone and flashing roms. Where else would I turn for advice? Also, if you read the OP I wasn't asking which device you liked more and which one you returned.

jonny68 said:
Flash Trickdroid ROM, it's a custom ROM which is also sense based and has good if not better battery life than stock ROM and certainly better than AOSP.
I'm a fan of AOSP ROM's but for the most part the battery life isn't good so I'll stick with Trickdroid
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I've heard great thing about Trickdroid, but there is no way I wanna miss out on things like PA's Halo feature..

ovoxo. said:
I have both the S4 and the One in front of me and one of them is going back by tonight. Still torn between the two, whatever, but there is one factor that can make my decision a lot easier. I never keep a stock rom on any phone; I prefer a stock Android experience with some of the extras included in ROMs such as PA and AOKP. From what I am hearing now, flashing non-Sense ROMs on the One takes away almost all of the bells and whistles of owning the device, like BoomSound (average audio quality) and camera quality (at least we have 13 megapixels to compensate in the S4).
For those of you who have flashed some of these early builds, how is it working for you? Do you find using the phone to not be as enjoyable as it was stock?
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I was in the same boat but stuck with the HTC One. I like it's feel in my hand a lot more which is a big thing for me, comfort>sexy, but both?! Also a lot of devs seem to be including sense in their roms letting us get Zoe+addons from aftermarket roms which keeps the camera viable. I think we'll see more interesting development on the One than on the S4 simply because devs will want to port/improve those features into their roms.

ovoxo. said:
I have both the S4 and the One in front of me and one of them is going back by tonight. Still torn between the two, whatever, but there is one factor that can make my decision a lot easier. I never keep a stock rom on any phone; I prefer a stock Android experience with some of the extras included in ROMs such as PA and AOKP. From what I am hearing now, flashing non-Sense ROMs on the One takes away almost all of the bells and whistles of owning the device, like BoomSound (average audio quality) and camera quality (at least we have 13 megapixels to compensate in the S4).
For those of you who have flashed some of these early builds, how is it working for you? Do you find using the phone to not be as enjoyable as it was stock?
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I ran the stock rom for 2 weeks before flashing a custom ROM. I didn't have any sluggish performance with stock, but I do like the custom rom better. I removed all the t-mobile junk. So if anything I got a performance increase.
I wouldn't return this phone, I love it.
Try the Maximus7 6.0 rom.
I came from a TF300 that was fing slow and constant force closes because of the slow IO in it. But it was a stock experience.
I thought I would hate this 'sense'. I like it. I do use a Nova Launcher and I removed the cruft.

ovoxo. said:
This isn't about people telling me what they like really. I'm simply asking about their experiences thus far with their phone and flashing roms. Where else would I turn for advice? Also, if you read the OP I wasn't asking which device you liked more and which one you returned.
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Maybe it's me getting older and needing a phone for business and not a toy to tinker with. The one gave me more features and the feel of it in my hand was better. Why not go with something with better features and reliability than with something that has more roms to flash? That's my question to op. Hopefully you can get both with whatever you decide to go with.
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ovoxo. said:
I've heard great thing about Trickdroid, but there is no way I wanna miss out on things like PA's Halo feature..
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Yeah id say Trickdroid is probably the best ROM overall right now for this one, but the choice is yours, if your prepared to sacrifice some battery life for extra features then no problems.
I'm running AOSP on my Nexus 7 and have been for months now but I'm quite content with Trickdroid on my One.

As a ROM addict, both of these phones will easily keep you happy.
However, asking in this forum will yield bias responses. Just like if you were to ask this in the S4 forum, you'll get the majority of answers saying to stick with the S4.

deviusdragger said:
Maybe it's me getting older and needing a phone for business and not a toy to tinker with. The one gave me more features and the feel of it in my hand was better. Why not go with something with better features and reliability than with something that has more roms to flash? That's my question to op. Hopefully you can get both with whatever you decide to go with.
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Why do you think I'm having such a hard time? :laugh: Too bad I can't afford to keep both.

KidCarter93 said:
As a ROM addict, both of these phones will easily keep you happy.
However, asking in this forum will yield bias responses. Just like if you were to ask this in the S4 forum, you'll get the majority of answers saying to stick with the S4.
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Yeah, of course. Just thought it would be better to get insight from those who have actually had experience with these ROMs. Both communities do seem like they are going to have a load of new things to flash and play with within the next few months.

Sense has gotten to the point (for me), that its features far outweigh anything aosp or aokp offer. Aosp advantage used to be that it was quicker and smoother with more customizations...not the case at all now. I would go as far to say that you actually lose more useful features than you gain by going pure android. I do understand the addiction though...I've had it for years...haha
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Confused why?

If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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pmacevad said:
If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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felacio said:
Aosp eventually ran 100% on the Evo 4G and I never looked back.
I always found myself sticking to aosp once 4G was working on the 3D as well and never really missed the 3D feature much. But I see your point. Right now, with how well Sense 5 seems to run and what's currently broke, I can't understand wanting it... Right NOW. But once most things are functioning I can see it getting popular.
I won't though... I dig Zoe. Lol.
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I remember gingerbread running pretty nicely on my OG Evo as well. I do A LOT of different things on my phone (as I'm sure most of us do ), but there would always be something I could find. Guess it's just me being nitpicky lol. Didn't you release a Rom or 2 over there?
I love this newest version of sense, miss some of the old sense widgets though. The zoe feature is top notch, and the camera pics are better then any mobile phone camera I've ever used. And I also have to admit, I'm in love with Blinkfeed. Everything right on the homescreen that I want to read, and some things I didn't, but found out that I did lol. All around I think it's a great os. I'm curious to try out some aosp on the One but I don't know if I'm willing to give up those features. I'm also intimidated about the internal data moving around between aosp and sense, and having to manually move it around. That's why to me right now it's not worth the change. Well have to see what's in store for the future.
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I know on my evo shift aosp ran flawless and fast as all getout.... I suppose the benefits on a device this fast would simply be the fact that its the latest android release 4.2.2 as opposed to whatever android version sense is (currently 4.1.2). Honestly for the enrichment that sense brings I don't see it getting nearly as popular on the one unless klp brings some killer features. Until the next iteration of sense comes out and we get that update....

I'm with ya OP I just don't understand the reasoning. But some people are just purists I suppose and want stock Android for some reason. I've personally always thought of AOSP was kind of moving and meh.
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I tried CM10.1 for a few days it's night and day more fluid. If it gets fully functional bye bye blink feed.
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I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!

gonowhere said:
I just finished my OG Evo run with Decks Reloaded and everything was great but, it will be awhile b4 I give up this version of Sense. I'm not as jazzed about BF but, I do love the camera and its features and the overall lightness of it these days. I originally learned about rooting due to lack of space on the OG Evo but, those days are long gone!!
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Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.

fanaticalg said:
Funny, I originally learned of rooting due to wanting free tether on my OG Evo.
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Right..I was a junkie for all the things you could when I first learned about rooting, I was reading forums ALL the time!!!

Another thing to add is that Sense 5 is much more transparent to Android. You see a lot more of AOSP in the new version of Sense, like the notification menu, some of the text editing, etc. Personally, I like Sense over AOSP because AOSP to me seems just too basic. And this is a good in between to where I've actually been happy with it. Sense 3 and 4 were just way too in your face, but I liked it because it was Sense. I now see it more because I have the One. At this point, if HTC stays with it's values on Sense 5, and continues to innovate, more people will likely stay.

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If the HTC One comes with Sense 5 and runs like a beast why would someone want to use aosp? It seems like you lose a lot of features in the switch. Things are broken as well. I've never come across an aosp Rom that was 100% working on any device I've owned. There always had been troubleshooting I've needed to do, a lot of it. Not trying to upset anyone, just curious about the rationale. I understand getting some features that you can't with Sense but that thought process is vice versa, or can go both ways. Personal preference I guess. Any thoughts, comments? What would I be able to do with aosp that I cannot with Sense? Looking forward to a healthy and productive discussion.
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That's because all AOSP ROMs are a hack. I'm sure it will be as fully functional and stable as any OEM Sense ROM.
The CM Project has some of it's own code. But they don't have access to firmware and they need to play together. HTC and Carriers have access to everything.
People always think open source means Open everything. It's almost always a Hybrid with some propriety pieces that are not released and the "public" code is always lagging in what's released.
Some things done on AOSP are reverse engineered when they don't have source for something (or the latest source).
I've yet to see a AOSP ROM CM have a FULLY functional GPS. Nor have the ## codes ever worked which I find really useful.
By the time they (Sprint HTC CDMA Android phones) are Officially Supported (if at all) it's over a year and the next generation is released.
Unofficial AOSP (CM) is always behind.

To answer Ops question, some ppl like the pure android experience. AOSP Roms are usually the 1st to be updated to the latest version of android. Also, AOSP Roms take up less memory than Sense roms. There are some features I actually miss from CM/AOSP like widgets in lockscreen, 4.2 quick toggles from notification drawer, quick reply to text from notification drawer, 4.2 photosphere, etc. I used to just run CM on all my devices when available but I'm actually liking Sense 5. For me, I'm happy with it and don't see myself flashing AOSP any time soon
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I think on dated HTC phones aosp was the way to go because sense was over bearing.. aosp came along way as far as functionality and features. Aosp opened development to things like cm, pa, rootbox, akop with things we never have on sense. Now on the other hand sense 5 is the sweet spot and with the camera features how sense is more incorporated into android opposed to how sense just ran on top and took control. Sense 5 is more like Pippen to Jordan rather than Shaq and Koby both wanting the stardom at one point
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Sense is one of the reason I use HTC. I tried a few asop roms on my ol g evo (loved that phone)and never liked them as much.
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Has anyone ported a sense Rom for a device from a different brand
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I am with the op as well. I use HTC devices because of sense. I would just use a nexus if I wanted aosp. Just a matter of personal preference I guess.
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Well right now there isn't much advantage. But when key lime pie lands and then L whatever it becomes a lot more appealing. HTC won't keep this updated for the two years I will own this phone but I will still want to play with next great thing and not be stuck here. Usually bounce between ASOP and the newest sense that gets ported.
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I was a AOSP user for awhile on my cdma htc hero and my lg optimus s (AOSP made them less sluggish). But I always had some sort of bug. When I bought the S3 I was excited because the phone is so popular I figured AOSP would run really well and the bugs would be gone....Needless to say it was always too buggy for me (and if you goto the cyanogenmod thread there is always someone reporting a bug). So I stuck with touchwiz but didnt like the look so I themed it and honestly I was pretty content. A large part of why I like cyanogen is because it looks really nice.
The new sense hit it out of the park IMO and is a great base to tweek up even better than touchwiz. Looks wise its awesome and it has many good features. I am now going to root and install a custom rom based off of stock. Stock tweaked rooms seem to be where its at right now.
Im not going to lie if I could choose plain android vs sense I might choose android but the choice between modded AOSP (buggy) and stock modded is simple.

also it's the battery life of aosp roms, usually cm roms easily doubles battery life for me, on the lte i could easily go 1 day and half on my batt when most on sense couldn't make it thru a day being a heavy user, there are pros and cons to sense and cm

I decided to try vanilla Android and brought a Nexus 4 and guess what? Guess they call it vanilla for a reason. It was absolutely the boringness phone I have ever had. I only lasted 2 weeks with the phone before I gave up on it.
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I'm runnin the latest cm nightly and alls well... Like aosp sometimes... Fun to change it up just because... I can!
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Stock or custom?

Up top, this isn't a "best ROM" or "what should I run" sort of thread. It's also a topic that can easily provoke rage so please don't think that I'm trying to convince anyone of one thing or another. This is just me being curious.
After starting with Android a few years ago, I've noticed an increasing amount of "flashing fatigue" setting in lately. Sure, I'll root (because I have a lot of utility apps that require root), but the appeal of custom ROMs is fading fast. The Google Edition port was my latest (and longest standing) ROM for my One, and before that I'd tried one or two stock-derivative ROMs (save one bad AOSP experience back when we had sleep of death going on). I'm back to stock now, and trying a "fuller" experience (no launcher replacement, etc.-- minus root, again, for some XPosed tweaks like disabling the NFC icon).
This phone's now been out a while, so I'm curious: how many of you have "settled down" so to speak on one side or the other?

The first Android I owned was an Epic 4G and then Epic 4G Touch. Both left a ton to be deaired from a software standpoint and I easily flashed 3 dozen or more different roms between those two phones.
Flash forward to the HTC One and I've never felt the need to leave the stock ROM. I do use the Google Experience Launcher and have replaces some of the stock apps with better versions from 3rd party devs, but honestly I don't really see a point. Performance, battery life and functionality all seem to have hit a perfect balance with this phone. And like you suggested, the fatigue of flashing is really heavy these days especially since I'm not looking to fix a flaw or add a feature. Although once a working KitKat ROM hits us I will probably root and flash just to get a feel. Though admittedly I've always found the bone stock look of Android to be lacking visually.
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The very first phone I flashed over to a custom firmware was the LG G2X from T-Mobile. The android experience on that phone was very tasteless and bloated. Support from LG was less than non-existent. I found that I couldn't really stand using the phone on stock so I flashed a few different roms until I landed on eaglesblood. Although there was a lot broken on eaglesblood, I found it an upgrade to stock. Fast forward like Adam described and I have been on the HTC One for nearly 6 months. In that time I have flashed perhaps a few custom roms. In the end, I reverted back to stock. The One is a solid phone from both a software and hardware stand-point. I find myself checking my BlinkFeed a few times an hour and if I am on a senseless ROM I feel lost without it.
Tl;dr I have no need to ever leave stock. Stock rooted is good enough for me.
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I've been running RageOne and have found it to be more than enough from what I need for my HTC one

Same here. I started with Hero, then Evo Shift, Evo 3D, Evo 4G LTE and now The One. I previously always rooted and flashed multiple roms until found one that like and stable enough for daily use. With the One, I honestly haven't done nothing to it. I find it prefect for everyday use. No problem was so ever. At times I feel weird because I never had an HTC or android phone for less than a week without rooting it and etc, but with the One no need since good as is.
I know also pending amount of developers we have currently since most leave to develop in other phones or carrier based phone model is what we can choose from roms available which is less than the other carrier model.
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The HTC One is my first non Nexus smartphone, so dealing with all the bloat that comes with Sense and stock has been hard for me. When I was using my Nexus S 4G I used Slim Rom and loved it for its minimal nature and stuck with it. Slim bean 4.3 stable has been a great rom for me, though now that the 4.4 builds are out I've found them more suitable for a daily driver. Slimkat is awesome and I personally cant wait for it to reach stable. Minimal is my cup of tea, add in Google Experience Launcher and I'm one happy guy.

I had a Hero, then a whole bunch of Shift4G's. Rooted all of those because I could make them noticeably faster, increase the battery life, and get rid of apps I didn't use.
With the One, it's already fast enough that I wouldn't notice an increase much. The battery life is great for the way I use it, I recently had a stretch that was nearly 40 hours off the charger (obviously I didn't use it a heck of a lot during that time). And being able to hide the apps I don't want from the app drawer means I forget they're even there. Because of that, I haven't seen a good reason to put a different ROM on this phone...yet