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[POLLS]Bill Gates & Steve Jobs [22.01 Which Microsoft OS' you liked most?]

Hello XDA-Developers,
I have to write something about Bill Gates & Steve Jobs.
For that I need some Polls
Would be nice if you could help me, just vote
First Poll:
[22.01 Which Microsoft OS' you like most?]

I made my vote...but if you had windows 7 as a choice it would've been my pick.

Windows for Workgroups 3.11

My vote goes to XP, the best OS i have ever seen, vista and W-Se7en are the biggest POS ever built

xp for me.....well x64 xp
but having to use vista at home....i miss xp

What about Windows 7 ?! It's the best OS ever made.

Should of had WinNT in that list.

GWelker62 said:
Should of had WinNT in that list.
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which version, there were several?
but dos was the best os. nice and stable.. and plenty fast.

liamhere said:
but having to use vista at home....i miss xp
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if you miss it then dual boot, that should give you your "xp-fix".
but if you have a core2 duo or above with 2gb or more memory and a sensible video card vista will run petty nice.
I've gotten so used to vista so when I go over to my friend's house I get pissed because I have to use xp. it's the truth, so I think I know what you're going through but in reverse.
on my rig I wouldn't dear desecrate it's inner tubes with xp. I don't mean to start a flame war but I had to say it.
vista is good on up to date hardware, well actually the only things that really needs to upgrade in the system is the video card and memory, even an old p4 would run it well.
I setup my brother's rig with a 939 socket athlon 3500, 2gb mem and an nvidia 8600gt and vista ran smoothly. (and this isn't even up to date hardware)
the key for better vista performance is: add more memory!
does anyone remember when xp just came out and OEMs shipped it with 256mb memory and it ran like molases? and how there was a huge hoopla about it until they started shipping them with 512mb? but in reality the sweet spot for xp was 1gb memory or more. it's the same thing with vista now, people try to run it on 1gb memory when the sweet spot is 2gb or more.
the driver issues was the manufacturers' fault because they sat on their asses until the last minute, but that issue has been ironed out for a while now so that shouldn't be a problem anymore.
I know others have a lot to say about the reason they prefer xp. but it all boils down to a user's preference.
PS: I know there are passionate people here so if anyone is going go reply to my post please leave the flame-throwers at home.

worst thing with old nt4 was that one could not reinstall it without a format
so if it required a reinstall you'd best have a full backup of your data

Another vote for Vista. Currently running 64 and 32 versions at home (gaming PC and HTPC), as well as XP (Laptop) and W2K (photoframe) so have lots of experience of each.
Just as Lennie said, so long as Vista has enough RAM to operate it's lovely. I've gotten so used to it's new little shortcuts that I find XP cumbersome now sometimes. Please don't take this as dissing XP, it's still a lovely system, but Vista was built as an improvement on XP and I personally think they succeeded.
Haven't tried W7 yet, guess I probably will if it starts gaming better than Vista.
Again - this is my own opinion and not a salvo in a flame war. If you love XP over Vista, so long as you're talking from experience and not prejudice then fair play to you.

Thank you for your post and answers
I will open a new thread in the day.
But first I need a idea for a poll about Apple Products

scilor said:
But first I need a idea for a poll about Apple Products
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Does the hype surrounding all Apple products make you more likely to buy them, or less?
Who do you feel has the control at Apple:
- The engineers
- The consumer research dept
- The marketing dept
Or simply, in your experience did your Apple product live up to your expectations?
I'd be interested to see the answers to those personally.

scilor said:
But first I need a idea for a poll about Apple Products
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Now that Steve Jobs has taken a medical leave of absence, soon to retire ( pancreatic cancer ) , what will become of Apple?
1). Apple will keep on it's current path, because it's products are superior in quality and design, no matter who runs the company.
2). Apple will lose it's lustre because the product quality and design will go down hill under new management
3).The products have always been crap, Steve Jobs is just the ultimate salesman, so goodbye Apple market share.
4). The Apple mystique is ingrained , it is not about Steve Jobs or the quality and design, the Apple fanbois will continue to buy no matter what.
Or something like that.

denco7 said:
Now that Steve Jobs has taken a medical leave of absence, soon to retire ( pancreatic cancer ) , what will become of Apple?
3).The products have always been crap, Steve Jobs is just the ultimate salesman, so goodbye Apple market share.
4). The Apple mystique is ingrained , it is not about Steve Jobs or the quality and design, the Apple fanbois will continue to buy no matter what.
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I second this

5) on the desktop market apart from fancy games more and more tasks are moved
to the browser and google is having a field day apple vs. ms is becoming less and less
and issue apart from on the mobile platform where browsers are less easy to access then dedicated apps
so it's iphone vs. wm rather then macosx vs. windows now

VMWare?

Basically I want to try MacOSX and I know about VMWare so I just wanna ask what do I need to be able to 'emulate' MacOSX on my XP SP3 PC? The specs of the PC are horrific (2ghz single core, 1gb of RAM) I don't know any of the other specs or what processor etc. it is lol. So can somebody give me some links on how to get VMWare set up and where to get a copy of MacOSX ('legally' for free )
I tried searching the web but I just got confused.
I'm thinking of getting a new iMac but I'm not too sure so I want to try MacOSX before I spend mucho moniez. Thanks.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, You won't be able to use a VM on 1 core?
Also... I doubt there is a working kernel for yourCPU, Just a lucky guess though

MacaronyMax said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, You won't be able to use a VM on 1 core?
Also... I doubt there is a working kernel for yourCPU, Just a lucky guess though
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Lol I was thinking that with my ****ty hardware it mightn't be possible. Lets just hope.

wmware should be able to run on single core i know virtualbox can so maybe try that
if you have an intel core 2 then most macs have that in so it would be compatible cpu wise although i think vmware emulates a different type of cpu so it may not work the ram may be problematic

Skellyyy said:
Lol I was thinking that with my ****ty hardware it mightn't be possible. Lets just hope.
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Hahha, Okay, Althoguh I do think a VM needs it's own core to run on Also if you do get an iMac, You can always stick Windows on it, Plus... Whatever you get... It will be a huge upgrade haha

x10man said:
wmware should be able to run on single core i know virtualbox can so maybe try that
if you have an intel core 2 then most macs have that in so it would be compatible cpu wise although i think vmware emulates a different type of cpu so it may not work the ram may be problematic
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It's an AMD Athlon 64 processor if that's any good?
It's an ancient PC.

MacaronyMax said:
Hahha, Okay, Althoguh I do think a VM needs it's own core to run on Also if you do get an iMac, You can always stick Windows on it, Plus... Whatever you get... It will be a huge upgrade haha
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Haha too right! I like the iMac the way it's all just packed in to the monitor itself so no need for a tower and I'm thinking of running VMWare to game on Windows then.

Skellyyy said:
Haha too right! I like the iMac the way it's all just packed in to the monitor itself so no need for a tower and I'm thinking of running VMWare to game on Windows then.
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*facepalm* Haha If you just want everything in one but want windows look at the Lenovo Ideacenter PC's? There are pretty decent spec for the price... Pretty nice looking and slim too, And cheaper! But ofcourse it's up to you But there are also many other AIO's if you're interested

MacaronyMax said:
*facepalm* Haha If you just want everything in one but want windows look at the Lenovo Ideacenter PC's? There are pretty decent spec for the price... Pretty nice looking and slim too, And cheaper! But ofcourse it's up to you But there are also many other AIO's if you're interested
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*double facepalm* Yeah I was looking at a few other AIO's, but there's just something in my head that I've got my heart set on a iMac now. Will probably have to take out a bankloan off the parents to buy it mind you.

Skellyyy, check out " Hazard Leopards "... this site explains how to get the MacOS running in a virtual window, on Windows.
HAZARD LEOPARDS
Be sure to check out the forums on Hazard, there is a critical posting, explaining as to why some hardware combinations will not work well at all (my ASUS P5Q motherboard won't work):
HARDWARE WARNING POST
Also, here is a link to some fullblown install instructions from another website with idiot-proof pictures too:
PRETTY PICTURES AND INSTALL GUIDE
Good Luck.
Snappy

Skellyyy said:
*double facepalm* Yeah I was looking at a few other AIO's, but there's just something in my head that I've got my heart set on a iMac now. Will probably have to take out a bankloan off the parents to buy it mind you.
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Haha Nice, Well its a lush pc ,Hope you enjoy it
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Highly not recommended. Tried it. It's cute, but doesn't get anywhere near Hackintosh.

Good cpu I had one in my old laptop till it got nicked but amd + apple = no apple pcs use intels I think its core 2 at the moment
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MarkhamSnappy said:
Skellyyy, check out " Hazard Leopards "... this site explains how to get the MacOS running in a virtual window, on Windows.
HAZARD LEOPARDS
Be sure to check out the forums on Hazard, there is a critical posting, explaining as to why some hardware combinations will not work well at all (my ASUS P5Q motherboard won't work):
HARDWARE WARNING POST
Also, here is a link to some fullblown install instructions from another website with idiot-proof pictures too:
PRETTY PICTURES AND INSTALL GUIDE
Good Luck.
Snappy
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Thanks for that dude, will check those links out later when I'm on my PC.

x10man said:
Good cpu I had one in my old laptop till it got nicked but amd + apple = no apple pcs use intels I think its core 2 at the moment
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Which? The AMD Athlon? I hope I can atleast run MacOSX just to give me an idea of what it's like. There aren't many Apple stores in Ireland either for whatever reason so I can't go in to an Apple store and check them out.
AFAIK the new iMac uses Intel's new Sandybridge CPU btw.

Skellyyy said:
Which? The AMD Athlon? I hope I can atleast run MacOSX just to give me an idea of what it's like. There aren't many Apple stores in Ireland either for whatever reason so I can't go in to an Apple store and check them out.
AFAIK the new iMac uses Intel's new Sandybridge CPU btw.
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Yeah they use the Sandybridge ix 2xxxx series, Although the previous generation still used ix xxx CPU's

Yeah I had an athalon 64 and it might run to be honest I just dont know the best way would be to try it out
sent I didnt send this how dare you even suggest it! I uploaded it wirelessly to the XDA servers. oh wait thats just posh for sent...

MAc OS X install on PC

I bought an HP mini 110, but Im returning it now. My question is, what is the best laptop or netbook that is most compatible in doing this? I see the Asus EEE PC 1005HAB is, but now I read that the Atom processor is no longer supported? Can someone PLEASE tell me, lol.

Why not just buy a mac? I mean I'm all for hacking and Modding but if you're really interested in Mac OS get a Mac, it will run the best and is fully supported. Also hackintosh is illegal I think, and I don't think xda supports talking about it, you may find more help in a hackintosh forum.
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you will need to build a hackingtosh, or get a mac...

Just do an Google on: Running OSX Lion on [Brand serienumber] and you will know.
General an iX proccesor with an Intel HD 3000 wil run on OSX, its just question will work the rest to.
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/HCL_10.7.3/Portables
Just do your research and buy then, because if you really want it to be an hackintosh then you should choose wisely.

tomsteel1 said:
Why just NOT buy a mac? Macs are expensive for what they give, Sure, Mac OS X is going to fully support its OWN hardware, But are you up for paying alot of $$$ for one?
Also, About the illegal thing, Quite alot of stuff on XDA is illegal, You just dont think it is. AKA "Dr.Dre Beats Port", HTC Sense ROM porting. But it is probably best to ask in a Hackintosh Forum anyway.
But, Good Luck OP With the Mac/Hackintosh!
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It's not illegal because it's open source. Also you can buy a used 13" MBP for $700

Just download a special OSX.
Pretty good if you have Intel processor.

Try ..IAtkos
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I did it on a Dell Vostro 1700. Why not just get a mac someone asked? Answer: hackers gotta hack and you are not going to find a 17" macbook for $300 and it isn't going to have two hard drives in it.

New laptop?

I'm in college and do graphic design as well as a lot of audio stuff...should I beef up a pc laptop or invest in a nice macbook?
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Try Thinkpad W700

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Photoshop, GIMP, Paint Shop Pro and Audacity are cross platform and are the right tools for the job. You decide what laptop to get. Audacity and GIMP are free.

if you need ios,ipad
another touchpad

It'ld be cheaper to get a notebook, get a OSX Lion disk from an Apple Store, and dual boot ur lappy, although it might be bit of a hassle
Windows - loads of choices
Macintosh - Expensive Apple!
You can get some notebooks without any OS, and then install your preferred OS, would be the best way IMO

Everyone I know who does audio or graphic design uses a Mac. Personally I've never got on with them - you seem to pay loads more for the fruit on the front, and pretty much all the relevant software is also available for the PC.
Some would say Macs are more reliable, for performances or whatever, but I haven't seen a Windows blue-screen for quite some time now. It probably used to be true, but Windows 7 is pretty robust on decent hardware now.
I'd recommend wandering into a shop and trying both. If you're short of money, the PC is probably your best option. You can always stick Linux on it - as already mentioned above, most audio and graphics software is cross-platform anyway.

Most people would suggest a Macbook Pro terms of your needs.

Custom eurocom laptop! You can add in tesla configuration if you want to.

Get yourself a asus u46sv. Light, relatively small and reasonably powerful. If you have the money you could go for a m14x but you'll probably be uncomfortable with the amount of heat.
$1 gets you a reply

I was a Mac fan, but Lion destroyed the experience IMHO. I mean... Removing "Save As..."? Really, Apple?
If I were to replace my MacBook Pro now, I'd get a Dell XPS 14z.

windows 8 rt

Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible

It's almost impossible to port w8 on Nexus 7 it requires a lot of work
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marousa_king said:
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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I'm guessing you like the sound of Windows on a tablet, but you really don't know the world of hurt and disappointment that's instore from Windows8RT..
Clue: It's not Windows... and you are WAY better off with Jellybean....

No it wouldn't
That piece of "software" is not touching any of my hardware...

marousa_king said:
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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Never gonna happen. I guess you're eager be sued by the folks in Redmond?
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CrazyPeter said:
I'm guessing you like the sound of Windows on a tablet, but you really don't know the world of hurt and disappointment that's instore from Windows8RT..
Clue: It's not Windows... and you are WAY better off with Jellybean....
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Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.

SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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It is possible. Buy a Surface tablet and enjoy.

I'd totally buy a Windows RT tablet, price is key.
$499+? No way.

SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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Im not sure windows rt is really what you're looking for. I believe multitasking will be like android (unload apps to conserve ram), "tablet" apps are up to the developer, and "desktop" apps won't run at all. What you think you want is windows 8, but you will have to give up more than you think to get those. Rt is the basically a middle ground between windows 8(x86) and phone. (arm)
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marousa_king said:
Windows 8 rt on the nexus 7 would be pretty cool anyone want to help me make this possible
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Remember that windows and android are not just two different operating systems, but to completely different TYPES of operation systems. Android is open source so you can port it to whatever and hack it to run on different devices. You can only do that to windows with Microsoft's permission, and help. Microsoft doesn't even sell windows rt, let alone let you run it on an android device. You have to pay for Windows RT by buying a device with it installed, and even then you have no right to transfer it to another device.
So the limitations are not just technical, but legal due to its closed source nature and the way it is sold. Android is limited only by the (likely closed source) drivers or lack thereof for the device.
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If I wanted a Win8 tablet, I'd buy a Surface. No thanks.

Maybe what you want is Win8 on your pc/laptop, and then splashtop streamer. They claim multitouch works via their software..

SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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Educate yourself. Your talking Win8 Pro tablets, not RT. No desktop apps in RT. New ecosystem.
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This word "Copyright" tell you something? :what:
BTW
I have a feeling windows 8 will be like vista a few years ago. Get it? But that's my opinion. I could be dead wrong.
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Agreed. Most people don't understand that there are 2 versions. Pro and RT. RT is a scaled down version that won't run your typical desktop applications. Pro is what you want (if you want windows in a tablet).
I ran Windows 8 DP on my old Asus EP121 slate tablet (which was a real i5 64-bit machine) it I liked the overall experience. I ran photoshop and other powerful applications, however, the efficiency was no better than 65-70%... The ergonomics just weren't there for productivity. Diverse yes, but I'd prefer a laptop or desktop any day for real tasks. Every form has its function I suppose.

The two versions are due to Windows beeing a fat old OS, can't run properly on the ARM processors.
You will need a x86 processor to run all the old legacy stuff, windows fan boys can't live without (expect fat x86 tablets with fans).
RT Version fills the void of the fact windows just needs more juice to run on the new ARM hardware, so they made this version expecting anyone will use it... We all know Windows people, if they can't run word/excel on some hardware, it is not worth buying.
RT version is starting with a almost empty ecosystem... (no, you can't run normal windows x86 programs on RT)

SilverHedgehog said:
Proper multitasking, better tablet apps, a complete set of desktop apps...
If it was possible, I'd gladly ditch Android for Windows RT.
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It sounds like you are a "Kevin" and have fallen for Microsoft's plan..
MUST READ:
http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-...-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/
The only bit they get wrong of course, is the iPad bit at the end, when clearly it should have been a Nexus7 or Nexus 10...

slimdizzy said:
Educate yourself. Your talking Win8 Pro tablets, not RT. No desktop apps in RT. New ecosystem.
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nope. windows 8 has a full set of desktop apps. office, ie10 (it's good), command prompt, proper file manager, powershell, an rdp client.
it just doesn't allow to install new apps.
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Omar04 said:
This word "Copyright" tell you something? :what:
BTW
I have a feeling windows 8 will be like vista a few years ago. Get it? But that's my opinion. I could be dead wrong.
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honestly, when has copyright ever stopped anything? just look at hd2...
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CrazyPeter said:
It sounds like you are a "Kevin" and have fallen for Microsoft's plan..
MUST READ:
http://www.zdnet.com/three-days-in-...-former-microsoft-surface-rt-user-7000006421/
The only bit they get wrong of course, is the iPad bit at the end, when clearly it should have been a Nexus7 or Nexus 10...
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i know exactly what RT is. yes, i can't run third party desktop apps, no, i don't care.
it's a TABLET os, with a small set of desktop apps built in.
and android is a tablet os without that set of apps.
i'd much rather run win rt on my nexus - especially after trying ubuntu on it (with full chromium), i feel that android is holding that thing back.
and as for the article, well, it's a bad rep who's been fired. and one thing i found suspicious is that kevin didn't try to install chrome when he just got the tablet - it's mentioned that he loves it so much and all.

W8 RT needs 5 hardware buttons and a 1366×768 screen

peterk-1 said:
W8 RT needs 5 hardware buttons and a 1366×768 screen
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we don't have rotation lock and start buttons. you can still access start through the charms bar, and we could handle no lock rotation.
as for the resolution, it is only a requirement to pass microsoft certification. windows rt still supports other resolution. so with nexus 7's 1280x800 resolution, the only thing not working would be app snap.

The feedback towards Windows 8 RT (while not unsupported) seems to be a bit unfair. There is just so much report for Windows 8. They have a solid dev foundation which allows for much better quality software. While I love my Android devices, as an educator, I've noticed its missing the support from key software developrers.