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Nexus One vs. Everything else to be coming out soon

I have a Hero right now.
I'm debating whether or not I should buy the Nexus One now, or wait for different phones with the same speeds to come out.
What's your opinion? Is the Nexus One ahead of the game by quite a bit in terms of speed, or will it soon be matched with phones that are coming out soon?
I have heard a lot about Android Phones coming out with 1Ghz processors, but am still unsure about a lot of things.
So in short, should I wait for the newer phones coming out (with 1Ghz processors), or buy the Nexus One now?
Thanks.

All the latest Android phones that are about to come have 1GHz processors. I believe the only thing that will differ the speed will be how much available RAM each phone has, which will be less than half judging from previous events. I don't know what other factors come into play when it comes to speed and Android - probably little OS things. Really, as usual, your choice is of course going to come down to personal preference. Form factor, Android version, and etc. will be the things that will have to determine your choices.
I'm sticking with the Nexus, it of course will be receiving all the development.. like the G1 per-see.. everything that comes out will eventually find itself of the Nexus if good enough. So don't worry yourself.
Unless overclocked, all these new Snapdragon phones will probably come underclocked to 998ghz like the Nexus that has been bumped up to 1113ghz.. not that that matters nuch I would assume.
Oh yea, and the 8MP cameras that have appearing.. that will also come into play here.
Edit: to address the 1113 GHz thing.. I obviously meant 1.113GHz everyone, don't be such jokers.

I think Cyan said it best on his twitter the other day...
'"I'll wait for a dual-core.."-Steve
N1 is ahead of the game I would say. There will be other phones with the same hardware. No phone will ever be the first "superphone"!!!! N1 FTW!!!

Eclair~ said:
All the latest Android phones that are about to come have 1GHz processors. I believe the only thing that will differ the speed will be how much available RAM each phone has, which will be less than half judging from previous events.
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When you say less than half, do you mean in comparison to the Nexus?
That's another point that has me leaning towards the Nexus. It's the first phone of its kind, so it will be getting a lot of attention with updates and what not.

I kinda worded that wrong ^, when I said less tham half - I meant the amount of RAM each phone will utilize. Most Android phones don't see to use their entire amount of RAM.. though, there have sadly been phones with literally twice as much RAM as the Nexus (1GB). (I was wrong here, it was ROM actually)
I guess I will just agree with Cyanogen, until dual-core phones come out - I will be sticking with the Nexus.

I think I'll be getting the Nexus then... I just need to sell my Hero now!
Who wants to buy it? Mint condition! Comes with a Zagg full body too!
On another note, the desire, while having sense is nice, and that 50mb of ram, its not a deal breaker as the nexus has noive cancellation along with a few other goodies the Desire will not have. Also, the desire can't run on ATT 3g!!

Put your Hero up for sale in the Marketplace forum section.

Agreed: I'll upgrade when there's a dual-core phone, not before. Anything until then will be marginal, super AMOLED and 46363576 GB of RAM or not (especially considering that Android still can't make use of even 512 MB of memory fully). Everything else, like Flash and divx/xvid support, is software-based and can/will be ported. The end.

I have a Magic and will most likely be picking up the N1. For me the determining factor is development activity, I want a device that the xda community can build around. It's comforting knowing that many of the top G1/Magic devs have upgraded to the Nexus and will be working with it for the foreseeable future.
The x10, Desire, Galaxy all look very impressive but if there's not substantial developer support amongst those devices then I'm not going to invest my money in them.

Eclair~ said:
the Nexus that has been bumped up to 1113ghz
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seriously???

faraz1992 said:
seriously???
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lol, or even 9000MHZ!!

Oh, lol, you guy's knew I meant 1.113GHz. I typed that on my phone, kinda wanted to get it over with you know.

izmar said:
I think I'll be getting the Nexus then... I just need to sell my Hero now!
Who wants to buy it? Mint condition! Comes with a Zagg full body too!
On another note, the desire, while having sense is nice, and that 50mb of ram, its not a deal breaker as the nexus has noive cancellation along with a few other goodies the Desire will not have. Also, the desire can't run on ATT 3g!!
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If you want sense, the desire rom on MoDaCo runs well on the N1, just not my style. The camera has grown on me though.

izmar said:
I have a Hero right now.
I'm debating whether or not I should buy the Nexus One now, or wait for different phones with the same speeds to come out.
What's your opinion? Is the Nexus One ahead of the game by quite a bit in terms of speed, or will it soon be matched with phones that are coming out soon?
I have heard a lot about Android Phones coming out with 1Ghz processors, but am still unsure about a lot of things.
So in short, should I wait for the newer phones coming out (with 1Ghz processors), or buy the Nexus One now?
Thanks.
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Right now it's ahead of the game. But there will always be better devices on the Horizon. The Desire. The Evo. Etc...
If you keep waiting for the best upcoming phone, you'll never upgrade!

Is it unlikely the Nexus One will be overtaken soon?

As I said in another thread, I am probably going to sell my Desire and get an N1.
But I am wary of buying a 6 month old phone - especially with the rate android is moving forward at.
My question is - will the N1 be surpasses anytime soon with another google phone?
I know there are other phones out their with better specs (eg EVO) but I am talking about a real google phone, like the N1, which gets updates straight from google without anyone in between getting in the way.
It's probably a stupid question asking seeing as no one knows what companies are planning, but I guess I'm just looking for someone to convince me to take the plunge!

my guess is that the nexus one wil lbe the flagship phone, google's phone, for a full year. so look until january before a replacement comes along. even though the incredible and evo are here, the nexus one remains the developer phone. and i dont think that is going to change until january. just my opinion.

there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed. I love my Nexus One, but one of the MAIN reasons I got the N1 was because I was gambling that Google would treat it like its own personal baby. Favoriting it, giving updates sooner then the rest of the phones, and hopefulness that because it was their baby they would suite Android to work around the Nexus One, ie. If 2.2 did not work on the Nexus One, they would have MADE it until it worked on the Nexus One.

Blueman101 said:
there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed.
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+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
Yes, in a year or maybe even 1/2 year you'll no longer be on par with the top dogs, and in 3 years your phone might probably be scrapped. So? That's how things work.. They develop.

Jack_R1 said:
+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Well as all I am looking for is a phone direct from google, then it is quite reasonable to expect it not to be surpassed each month.
I don't really care if a better android phone comes out, I will only have buyers remorse if a Nexus Two came out soon, but I suppose when that happens is anyones guess.

The guesses that are currently out say that there's no other Google phone planned for this year (at least), so if you want to buy Nexus because you want Google's Android Development Phone platform - you can count of trouble-free 1/2-year.
(but at the end of the year 1.3GHz phones might appear, and the next year can bring dual cores... So if you want to stay in the top pack, I guess 1 year is the phone's lifespan).

Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.

The way I see it is you need to look at 2 things in regards to these types of phones... the hardware... and the availability of updates to the software...
Hardware wise, The Nexus is completely sufficient. 1ghz processor, 512mb of RAM, a great camera, a nice AMOLED screen, and a very durable build quality...
Software wise, it's vanilla Android and is first in line for updates from google... All the competing phones have that (sense, blur) crap built-in that severely hinders the release process of updates ... they will ALWAYS get updates later than any phones with vanilla Android...
If you get an EVO or an Incredible or whatever else comes out in a few months... you will gain a few minor things as far as hardware spec differences, unless u want an over sized bulging screen in your pocket. The camera? Who cares it's a friggin' phone... 5mp is PLENTY. You already have to optimize even 5mp as a standard to even send as MMS. Anything over 1ghz is pretty much overkill for android in its current phase... it's a phone... it runs fast as hell it doesn't need a dual-core processor geeze.
I dunno... I really think the nexus is still the best bet people who want a touch-based phone and always want to be on the bleeding edge of android os developments.

Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.

kitsunisan said:
Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
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A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.

samac92 said:
A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
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i've used Sense so much and i totally hate it as well. i'm so much happier with my nexus vanilla android experience. i do get why some people like sense, but for me personally, i dont like it.

In my opinion, the closest phone to 'overtake' the N1 will be the Samsung Galaxy S. The triangles that thing can push out is supposed to be very impressive. Other phones, to me, come down to preference (Evo for screen size and network, Desire for Sense). The N1 will probably be the first phone to get Gingerbread and even the update after that at least.
We'll see 1ghz phones become more common before a bump in processor speed happens, I feel. The N1's a nice phone and worth the money.

PrawnPoBoy said:
Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
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you are not alone. the EVO just doesnt wow me either. when 1.5gHz phones come out, then maybe i'll ditch the nexus. but the current hardware (evo and incredible) are so similar to the nexus, they are all cousins and in the same league. nexus gets the newest updates and has best build quality, so some would say its actually the better of the 3.

If you haven't bought one by now, I would hold off. Expect HTC leaks to start up again for their new lineup for next year.
It also depends on how you plan to use the phone.

I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.

krabman said:
I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I agree, some people are too obsessed with benchmarks imo. The phone does everything you want pretty much instantly, and there's not many processor intensive apps for android anyway.

evo is great except:
1) sprint only
2) contract only
What would make it better than the nexus:
1) simple way to root.
2) runs standard Cyanogen or AOSP, no proprietary stuff like sense.
3) supports GSM
I waited three years before jumping in, loved android right from when it was announced. The Nexus one pretty much has no challengers for the throne yet. A true open phone.

Take it with a grain of salt, but when I went to a local TMo store to get a SIM for my wife's new N1, I was asking about when they think they might be getting the N1 in (seeing as there's already some 3rd party places selling the N1).
I was told they probably won't be getting a google phone in until the Nexus TWO, sometime in November of THIS year.
My take on it is this; If it's something you want, get it now and enjoy it. There is ALWAYS something better, faster, sleeker and that will cost less coming right around the corner.

If the N1 had a touch screen that wasn't so terrible I'd really want for nothing. Maybe some better battery life..

If you're talking about a straight Google phone unlocked, then yes, one will be out this year. Earlier in the year, someone high up in Motorola announced they were working with Google to create a straight-to-consumer phone. I assume this will be the Nexus Two. I'll look for links to it and reply with them.
A quick Google search for "Motorola straight to consumer phone" and you come up with exactly what I was talking about. First link here:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/motorola_developing_straighttoconsumer_google_phone

IS not that popular based on number of posts?

I busted up my Legend and I got a Nexus S as a replacement. This I returned because I didn't like it much, mostly because I didn't like the way it felt in my hand. (Too plasticy)
Now I'm in the market for a new Android phone and the IS is a potential new phone. But purely based on the number of posts here and the activity level in these posts, the IS is NOT a popular phone. What's up?

The two major reasons I think are:
This thing is very very new and it's only available in Europe at the moment.
If it's not popular, so what. Do you like it? If you don't, then don't buy it.
You have a valid point though if you buy a popular device, there will almost certain be lots of developing for it.
On the other hand this thing looks nice and techy, so I think/hope developers will like this thing.
Meh, the only major reason for me not to buy it was the locked bootloader, but it'll get cracked somehow.
Track and traced my order and the driver is on the way! Can't wait for that doorbell to ring

This thread is much, much more quiet
Desire S
I really think this thing is just to fresh out of the oven

One reason could be that the Desire S haven't come out for sale yet whereas the Inc S have been out for almost a month now.
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My bad... I feel stupid

Right now the phone is still pretty new and it's only being sold overseas. This phone will take off more once it lands on Verizon in the states. Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.

The NAM 3G version is going to launch on Virgin Mobile Canada sometime in the next month or two. Note that the Verizon version would be CDMA and should probably get a distinct subforum unto itself.
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I'm getting the Indridible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
"Plus the Incredible S lacks any unique differentiating features. You know, something like dedicated gaming keys (the XPERIA Play), or a Super AMOLED screen that can seal a deal by itself.
All that coupled with a high asking price like this makes the Incredible S a device that’s pretty hard to recommend. Of course, if your carrier offers it at a bargain price you may disregard this argument and get the handset – the solid smartphone experience is guaranteed.
Yet if you are looking for a SIM-free device and are paying full price, we feel there are better alternatives out there."
This is as true as it is sad....
Nexus S : Don't like the contruction, too much plastic, it's too "slippery" in the hands. My MAIN gripe is that they've moved the back button farthest away and it's the button you use the most.
Optimus 2X : Sorry, this is an ugly UGLY phone.The back looks like it something from 1994.
Xperia Arc : Too big, lovely phone.
Desire HD : Too big

NardVa said:
Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.
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I think this is an important point. Any one who has a higher end existing phone will be more likely to go for the dual cores. From what I've seen there isn't a big difference between the Desire and Incredible S prices compared to the new LG dual core phone, so who is going to buy a single core phone if that's the case? I would be happy with an Incredible or Desire S, but at a lower price than is currently being asked for... Let the prices start dropping now please.... I want a new cheap phone!

Sebastian768 said:
I'm getting the Incredible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
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I had a T Mobile band Nexus One and didn't have any intentions of getting a new phone unless it was a major upgrade over the Nexus One. (Probably would have made the Pyramid or T Mobile GX2 my next phone this summer) Unfortunately I broke my Nexus One so the Incredible S was the best option for me at the moment. I still want a dual core phone but instead of making the jump this summer I'll probably make the jump early next year.

Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?

Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.

I cannot wait for this phone.
I used to have an HTC Touch GSM and was the best phone i've ever had,
I'm waiting for it to come to Bell with NAM 3G

kopkiwi said:
Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.
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Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.

DaanJordaan said:
Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?
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You're right. There isn't a big need for dual core right now. The only real advantage I see to having dual core now is for the gaming aspect, but the high end game market is still in the early stages. As far everyday things like web, email, face book, you tube, Pandora, etc a single core phone does just fine.

NardVa said:
Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.
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So what would you recommend?

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So what would you recommend?
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If you have to get a phone now the Incredible S would be a good choice. I had a Nexus One, which is similar to the Desire, and went to an Incredible S. I was looking at the Nexus S also, but I prefer the build quality of HTC phones over the Samsung phones. Just a personal preference.

UPGRADE this month - what should I do??!!

Hey guys
I am due for my upgrade this month on Sprint and have no clue what to do. I've tried the EVO 3D and was really pleased with the speed and overall features. I've tried the Photon 4G too, and despite the great things I heard about it, I found the UI somewhat laggy and distasteful, and the screen somewhat pixelated. However, with the HTC+Beats Audio partnership announced today, it seems there will be a whole new line of HTC phones coming out this fall/october (likely same $200 price but possibility of faster 1.5 ghz dual-core processor, 8 MP cam, and even new Sense 3.5 -- specs rumored for HTC Vigor for VZW). I really like the idea of even better hardware as well as sound quality, but want the Evo and the cool 3D features too. It also seems worthwhile to wait b/c of the imminent Ice Cream Sandwich update and the new devices to come with that (ex. Nexus Prime or whatever it's called). What do you think I should do, and what are you ppl who also have upcoming upgrades thinking of doing???
I would like to hear your opinions
Thanks,
n33zy

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Hey guys
I am due for my upgrade this month on Sprint and have no clue what to do. I've tried the EVO 3D and was really pleased with the speed and overall features. I've tried the Photon 4G too, and despite the great things I heard about it, I found the UI somewhat laggy and distasteful, and the screen somewhat pixelated. However, with the HTC+Beats Audio partnership announced today, it seems there will be a whole new line of HTC phones coming out this fall/october (likely same $200 price but possibility of faster 1.5 ghz dual-core processor, 8 MP cam, and even new Sense 3.5 -- specs rumored for HTC Vigor for VZW). I really like the idea of even better hardware as well as sound quality, but want the Evo and the cool 3D features too. It also seems worthwhile to wait b/c of the imminent Ice Cream Sandwich update and the new devices to come with that (ex. Nexus Prime or whatever it's called). What do you think I should do, and what are you ppl who also have upcoming upgrades thinking of doing???
I would like to hear your opinions
Thanks,
n33zy
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The 3vo will get upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich sooner than most phones so it's definitely a solid choice, but then these are the first generation of dual-core like you said. Once the better dual-core processors hit the market you'll be thanking yourself for waiting. As well, all this open sense stuff should be taking more effect in a few months and a lot of developers are gonna be all over the newer sense phones.
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Wait. Theyre killing off a lot of phones in the next 3 months to release a new line.
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I'm waiting to see what develops. My guess is that the new Samsung (Within) will be the next big developer phone, but Nexus Prime is definitely on my radar. Most likely will not be released until the holidays ... but who knows for sure. I am not impressed with the Photon. For the moment, my original Supersonic is still working great.

I agree with what everyone else is saying too. I'd wait it out, see what news Sprint gives out on what other devices they have.. Or at the very least wait for the sgs2 to get released, better yet the nexus 3 / prime
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Either way you look at it, you're still going to get a device that'll be outdated the day it hits the shelves. I got my EVO 3D on pre-order and got it opening day, I've had it for over a month now, and newer things are coming out. It all just depends on how long you want to wait, not what phones to wait for.

Wait a few months if you can. Newest phones are right on the horizon so if you don't need a new beeter phone right now be patient and wait.
You'll be glad you did.
Even better, save some money while your waiting that way you don't have to use your upgrade that way when another new phone comes out 3 months after you bought the first you can use your upgrade on that.
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Thanks everyone for your insightful responses. I've been thinking about it, and I think the best thing to probably do is just hold out another month or so and wait to see what gets announced (my birthday is at the end of Sept. anyways). I should be able to keep my current phone for a while with the fairly speedy roms out right now on the HeroC. If I don't see anything new that interests me, which I don't think will be the case, I will always have the 3D as a backup option.
stay classy, XDA

Wait for the galaxy s 2.

I'm trying to figure out what I should do as well, my upgrade is on September 1st.
Most likely I'm just going to get the Samsung Galaxy S 2, and upgrade it to Ice Cream with the help of the geniuses on this website.
I highly doubt the Prime will make it to Sprint very quickly, the Nexus S took 4-5 months did it not? I thought it came out officially around November then Sprint carried it in March or April, if I'm not mistaken. I suppose if you want to buy unlocked then wait for the Prime but I don't think Sprint will get it so quickly unfortunately.
If they were smart they'd try to, the iPhone is coming in October, so Google really should push the phone out to the carriers ASAP. If they would announce something next month officially I would wait a month or maybe even two, but without an announcement, I'll probably get the Galaxy, it's one helluva phone.
If you look at the two the differences will be very small..yes the Nexus will have a nicer screen certainly, but does that make the Galaxy's screen any less nice? probably the second nicest looking screen out there. Then the Nexus will have a slightly faster processor, but who knows maybe the Nexus won't have removable storage like the last one, if that's the case I would buy the galaxy immediately, I don't like being restricted in storage space (unless the standard amount is 32gb..then I probably wouldn't really care)

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Hey guys
I am due for my upgrade this month on Sprint and have no clue what to do. I've tried the EVO 3D and was really pleased with the speed and overall features. I've tried the Photon 4G too, and despite the great things I heard about it, I found the UI somewhat laggy and distasteful, and the screen somewhat pixelated. However, with the HTC+Beats Audio partnership announced today, it seems there will be a whole new line of HTC phones coming out this fall/october (likely same $200 price but possibility of faster 1.5 ghz dual-core processor, 8 MP cam, and even new Sense 3.5 -- specs rumored for HTC Vigor for VZW). I really like the idea of even better hardware as well as sound quality, but want the Evo and the cool 3D features too. It also seems worthwhile to wait b/c of the imminent Ice Cream Sandwich update and the new devices to come with that (ex. Nexus Prime or whatever it's called). What do you think I should do, and what are you ppl who also have upcoming upgrades thinking of doing???
I would like to hear your opinions
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n33zy
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I just got the EVO 3D, and its a pretty Great phone man Honestly....

Screw Evo3d cant even hold a conversation without it dropping calls. Do like i will and get Galaxy s2 on September 9th. Duel core and the sprint version is 4.5 inches its going to be a beast.

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I just got the EVO 3D, and its a pretty Great phone man Honestly....
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It's about time you made the switch
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U should actually upgrade when I upgrade.. in April.. yeah?
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shawn1482 said:
Screw Evo3d cant even hold a conversation without it dropping calls. Do like i will and get Galaxy s2 on September 9th. Duel core and the sprint version is 4.5 inches its going to be a beast.
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Can't hold a Conversation Without dropping calls? I Haven't had Any dropped calls... But time will tell I guess!

shawn1482 said:
Screw Evo3d cant even hold a conversation without it dropping calls. Do like i will and get Galaxy s2 on September 9th. Duel core and the sprint version is 4.5 inches its going to be a beast.
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the sg2 will drop calls too. its not the phone, its sprints crappy network.

Majin101 said:
U should actually upgrade when I upgrade.. in April.. yeah?
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They should be rolling out LTE in a few markets by then. I wonder how long they will keep Wimax alive after that

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the sg2 will drop calls too. its not the phone, its sprints crappy network.
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Crappy? Lol, I've had nothing but good luck on my Hero with Sprint... Are you in a bad coverage area?
And a Sammy can't compair to an HTC If your buying the Samsung for its specs you'll be disappointed. HTC phones are the best around.
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I share the anxiety about the upgrade! I was eligible last month and haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet.
It's like I have some neurotic attachment to the thing. The trackball, the perfect size, knowing how crappy it was when it came out and how awesome it is now with 2.3... it'll be hard to say goodbye!
I'm thinking the sg2; every phone I've owned besides the hero has been samsung and I have liked them all... but by the time it comes out it'll be easy to talk myself out of it and wait for the nexus prime.
Anybody that was used to the Hero's size and stepped up to a EVO-sized phone, was it hard to adjust to it? My gf has the EVO and I wouldn't want to walk around all day with a phone that big in my pocket.

I too, just upgraded to the EVO 3D after having my great Hero for 2 years. I was deciding between the 3D, the Photon 4G and the SGS2. I read a lot of official and unofficial reviews of all the phones as well as many opinions on this site. I have found that while the SGS2 is more powerful on paper, it doesn't bring too much else to the game other than an updated skin and 1080p recording.
Performance-wise, all of these dual core phones should offer a very significant upgrade compared to the Hero we all know and love. After using the Hero for 2 years and having the 3D as my first "modern" Android device, I can say that I wouldn't tell the difference between the 3D or the photon unless I compared them side by side. Any speed is a blessing compared to the Hero, even when it was overclocked and optimized.
Overall, the decision this time comes down to brand loyalty. I chose to stick with HTC because they have been reliable to me for the past two years, and quite frankly, I like Sense better than Motoblur or TouchWiz. All three phones are much more powerful than the Hero, and now is a great time to upgrade.
Hope that helped.

Do you think the there are too many android phones

I really like my d3 but I feel like its old already with rumors of the d4 so quick and the samsung nexus coming out. It seems that the market is flooded with android phones. Even my friends that have the iphone ask " why are there so many android phones that come so quickly" and I agree with them. I love android and will always have one. When I read things that say android has the market share I can't but wonder if its do the the huge number of android phones. I wish google would grow a pair and stop this. I would love to see just a few android phones " all stock " come out and show people that don't reallly know what a stock android phone is. I think its moto and htc, and samsung messing it all up with there ui's. And because of this is why the d3 will get lost. And its a great phone. Their are a lot of great phones but you buy one and a month later 3 more that are faster bigger come out. The only good thing about all the phones is that they all try to out do the other. So the technology gets better faster. But I would love to see less and more stock phones. Im tiered of explaining moto blur to people. My friends that have the iphone are right when they say what's wrong with stock android that the manfactures have to hide it. They have a good point. But anyway I just thought this needed to be said and now I wait 8 months till my upgrade and then I will get my samsung nexus and im back on stock forever. Also I know that we have roms and your phone can be stock with these but its still not the same.
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Google has little control over whether an OEM skins Android or not - Android is open source, and whuile I believe that they have specific requirements to get the Google market and apps, the OEMs are free to alter the framework. Of course, it is not the OEMs who simply make the phones - they are trying to sell to carriers, who also have specific demands for specific features (i.e., locked down bootloaders, so users will not be able to install apps that do things like offer hotspot service for free, plus carriers get money from software companies to pre-load specific software on the phones.) It is surely not Google who is controlling when specific makers are offering specific models (with the exception of the Nexus models.)
Google does contract with OEMs roughly once per year to make the Nexus devices, which are pure Android phones (Nexus One January 2010; Nexus S in December 2010; Nexus Prime November 2011.)
Are there too many phones? I would rather have too many great phones coming out frequently than too few phones coming out less frequently. Seriously, even with a Droid 4 coming out 6 months after a Droid 3 (if the release is indeed that tight), the Droid 3 hasn't suddenly become a terrible phone. It's a dual-core OMAP 1 GHz phone with 512 MB of RAM and a very high dpi high resolution display with reasonable battery life. This phone will remain usable for all of a typical 20 month Verizon contract commitment, just as the Droid Incredible remains entirely usable now 18 months or so after its first release.
That's my opinion, anyway. I think it's healthier to be happy that there are so many great phones pushing the envelope so frequently than the alternative - having to wait and try to guess the perfect time to upgrade to a new device. Choice can be hard, but I'd rather be able to choose between many, many models of cars than have Chevy, Ford, Toyota, etc. come out with a single model each every year.
Apple's way is very smart for them, but they do not have to compete with other OEMs making iOS phones. Android OEMs do need to be mindful of each other, and I think both ways are fine. If you are worried that too many phones are being released too fast, then by all means, switch to an iPhone and you'll be able to relax more, or simply buy whichever Nexus device is available at the time you are able or want to upgrade, as they are also now on an approximate yearly cycle. If you have to switch to another carrier to do so, that will surely send a message to the carrier that you are using that if they wanted to keep your business, they should have offered a Nexus device of their own.

Very good points. Just makes me a little mad that I get a phone and and one that I would rather have comes out a few months later. But then again I did not know that at the time. I just nee to maybe wait before jumping in. I do think that the samsung nexus will be the best selling phone of all time. I think that will send a measage to the carriers that stock it always better. I would like to think that stock it better now that 4.0 is out.
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This is the point that technology is at man. Every company is going to make devices that cater to each type of person. These smartphones really haven't been out long if you think about it in relative terms. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years we start seeing the smartphones get narrowed down into a few types of droids and of course 1 or 2 ugly step cousins made by that Apple company.
So to answer your question, yea, there may be a big selection of phones out there and by the time you get used to using one it is already outdated, but that's part of the fun of being at the edge of how far technology has gotten us.

I don't think the problem lies with too many phones but personally I think the carriers and OEMs are taking way too much advantage over the position that they are in.
When I bought my OG Droid, I went with a one year contract because I knew that soon enough a new phone would be out to replace it. This turned out to be incorrect as that was when Android phones were still in their adolescence.
In July, when I finally decided it was time to upgrade to the Droid 3, Verizon no longer offered a one-year contract and there was no sign of a QWERTY slider coming out for awhile. So I felt confident in choosing the Droid 3...
Here I sit, 4 months into a 2-year contract, the Droid 4 is on the horizon and my only option when it comes out is to buy it at full non-subsidized price. Which brings me to my next point...
Why are the non-contract prices SO high for these devices?! The cost of production and materials cannot be THAT high to warrant such a price. Add in the fact that the Operating System (Minus Blur/Sense/Etc) is "free" (to an extent).
To me it just seems like if we want to go with a prepaid, non-contract carrier we have to pay a really high price for a good phone. But when we go to a contract carrier, we are stuck for two years (unless you pay $300+ to cancel the contract) and when a new device comes out we must simply ignore it or cough up $600-700.
Am I wrong or is this the truth? Pardon my rant.

I think Android phones are being released insanely fast. There was a time when I'd read about all of them but now it seems like 3-4 new phones are announced every damn day. And they're ALL the same. Dual-Core, 4G, Gingerbread.

Ya they are all the same for the most part. That's what I don't like. Just wish the carriers would slow down, and focuse on one or two phones. Just can't wait till my upgrade comes. Just afraid that the different ui's will be not be good for android. People need to know what android looks like. Its not blur or sense and those ui's slow phones down a bit aswell.
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Ya they are all the same for the most part. That's what I don't like. Just wish the carriers would slow down, and focuse on one or two phones. Just can't wait till my upgrade comes. Just afraid that the different ui's will be not be good for android. People need to know what android looks like. Its not blur or sense and those ui's slow phones down a bit aswell.
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Google needs to put it's foot down and say no more skins. Skins should come as flashable roms from Moto or HTC, etc.
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Androidsims said:
Google needs to put it's foot down and say no more skins. Skins should come as flashable roms from Moto or HTC, etc.
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No it doesn't. It completely goes against what makes Android so good. Developers like being able to brand their phones, something they can't do under Windows Phone and obviously IOS. Flashable roms would just be confusing and potentially unstable for the average consumer.

Ya but people don't know what android looks like because of these skins. People think that blur is android and its not. Goggle should at least tell then to have more phones that are stock. Why hide android? Most people put roms on there phones to get rid of the skins. I know that's what I do.
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Most people put roms on there phones to get rid of the skins.
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This is probably true of people who mod their phone, but definitely not true of Android users as a whole. I would guess that less then 10% of Android users actually mod their phones. While it's a small sample, out of the 9 people I know personally that own Android phones, only 2 of them have modded it, and they only did it because I did it for them because they complained of the phone being too slow (Droid 1's). Although both recently upgraded to iphones.
The bottom line is the majority of Android users don't care about what their phone looks like or what Android truly looks like. The same way I don't care about whats under the hood of my car. A car gets me from point A to point B, what makes that happen is irrelevant to me. All I care is if the car is visually appealing to me. And maybe more recently MPG, because of the cost of gas is so god damn high.

Well the nice thing is, as long as XDA exists then we will always have a more current phone. If my Droid 3 would have not crapped out on me because of the screen I would still be using it at 1 GHz with the latest Gingerbread. Once we figure out how to mod the D3 better and better and if we do ever get the unlocked bootloader then our phones will still be just as current as the Nexus Prime or whatever is newer and better.
The specs of this phone despite not being 4G are good because the CPU and RAM are up there with the currently released high end phones (except the RAZR). We already have some good custom ROMs out there and I'm sure we will get ICS soon enough thanks to Hash.
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MrObvious said:
Well the nice thing is, as long as XDA exists then we will always have a more current phone. If my Droid 3 would have not crapped out on me because of the screen I would still be using it at 1 GHz with the latest Gingerbread. Once we figure out how to mod the D3 better and better and if we do ever get the unlocked bootloader then our phones will still be just as current as the Nexus Prime or whatever is newer and better.
The specs of this phone despite not being 4G are good because the CPU and RAM are up there with the currently released high end phones (except the RAZR). We already have some good custom ROMs out there and I'm sure we will get ICS soon enough thanks to Hash.
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The processor is good but the RAM is definitely lacking. 512MB is just not enough, the phone with stock stuff installed has a pretty terrible multi-tasking experience. Honestly I think the 512 is the reason why Motorola hasn't flagged it for an ICS update yet, because other than that it's basically the same phone as the Bionic/Razr and probably wouldn't be too hard to port.

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The processor is good but the RAM is definitely lacking. 512MB is just not enough, the phone with stock stuff installed has a pretty terrible multi-tasking experience. Honestly I think the 512 is the reason why Motorola hasn't flagged it for an ICS update yet, because other than that it's basically the same phone as the Bionic/Razr and probably wouldn't be too hard to port.
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No the software is just that bad.

i4mt3hwin said:
The processor is good but the RAM is definitely lacking. 512MB is just not enough, the phone with stock stuff installed has a pretty terrible multi-tasking experience. Honestly I think the 512 is the reason why Motorola hasn't flagged it for an ICS update yet, because other than that it's basically the same phone as the Bionic/Razr and probably wouldn't be too hard to port.
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512 MB will be fine for ICS, I am sure, as the Nexus S will be getting ICS with worse specs than the D3 (i.e., single-core CPU).
It's very possible that Moto and/or VZW will not want to take the time to develop ICS for the D3, or push it out, but it won't be because it has "only" 512 MB of RAM.

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512 MB will be fine for ICS, I am sure, as the Nexus S will be getting ICS with worse specs than the D3 (i.e., single-core CPU).
It's very possible that Moto and/or VZW will not want to take the time to develop ICS for the D3, or push it out, but it won't be because it has "only" 512 MB of RAM.
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The Nexus S doesn't have a ton of bloatware on it. Verizon will have to port all the applications that are stock loaded with the Droid 3 2.3.4 build over to ICS. I'm going to go ahead and assume that ICS probably uses more RAM than gingerbread. Couple that with the crap software Verizon loads on the phone and there is definitely a case for ram being an issue. I mean the stock phone blows as is, run maps and music and it slows to a crawl.

I think the over abundance of Android phones can be disheartening at first glance, but when you think about it, remember back a few years to when the original razr was the hot phone. After owning it for two years, you go in to get an upgrade to find that the best phone on the market is still a razr, but now it can play mp3s. If you use your head, you realize that all of these people who are worried about having the latest and greatest phone and go out to buy it as it is released still have a perfectly good "last month" phone. Hello Ebay. I saved my upgrade and bought a one month old D3 off ebay for $300. Use your upgrades when the RIGHT phone comes out, until then pick up the scraps from ebay at half price. Remember, even a used phone from ebay still carries a mfg warranty.
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I agree with OP that there are too many Android phones and not enough variety. i think the main difference is that while the iPhone was originally locked to one market, Android phones were everywhere. Each carrier had their own version of each phone made by each manufacturer, not to mention their individual contracts for certain phones that ended up getting out to other carriers eventually (i.e. Evo). My issue is there isn't much variety, yeah they have small upgrades here and there and small differences but the main thing is once a 1ghz 4.3" screen came out, every company made one. Once dual core came out, every company made one. Not much innovation imo, just keeping up with the competition. And I still don't understand why there are barely any QWERTY keyboards, another reason why it seems like most of the phones coming out are the same.
For me it all has began to come down to the looks department. I know I want a QWERTY so i had limited options, but even if it was an all touch screen you look for one that you can live with looking at every day and bite the bullet. Chances are everyone else will have one with similar specs just different body design.