[Q] Rogers stock Froyo to ICS. Some questions? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've currently got Rogers stock 2.2 Froyo running on my i896. I rooted it and replaced the 3e recovery with the modified recovery so I can run CWM Recovery on it. I also unlocked the phone by modifying the nv_data.bin file.
Now I want to upgrade to ICSSGS. A few questions:
1) Should I first upgrade using Kies to Rogers 2.3.3? What ill effects, if any, will that have to my 3e recovery, my nv_data.bin unlock, and the root?
2) What system files should be backed up before upgrading to ICS custom ROM? EFS files, etc?
3) Is it possible to go straight from Froyo to ICS? The ICSSGS installation instructions mention requiring Gingerbread.
Thanks in advance

Don't bother with kies.
No need to go to gingerbread first, and going to stock gingerbread will undo you're 3e replacement and root.
just flash ics from froyo.
It's always recommended to have multiple backups of your /efs folder in several locations.

I've read that people have a lot better results if they go to cm7 first, then go upgrade to ics. Since almost everything is based on team hacksung.(Cm9 I would go to that ics first.
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shaker2k said:
I've read that people have a lot better results if they go to cm7 first, then go upgrade to ics. Since almost everything is based on team hacksung.(Cm9 I would go to that ics first.
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Why would that be though? Any logical explanation to that theory?

Well my guess is that because cyanogen has done cm7 so well and stable. most ics builds are based on their work with cm9. It's kind of just a natural progression.
I've also read some dev's suggest doing it this way.
Also I did it this way and have had almost none of the problems that other people have.
I've never had a sleep, or charge death. Never had the data data bug. Never had the data signal bar always full bug.
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shaker2k said:
Well my guess is that because cyanogen has done cm7 so well and stable. most ics builds are based on their work with cm9. It's kind of just a natural progression.
I've also read some dev's suggest doing it this way.
Also I did it this way and have had almost none of the problems that other people have.
I've never had a sleep, or charge death. Never had the data data bug. Never had the data signal bar always full bug.
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Interesting, thanks for sharing your experience. I might go ahead and try flashing CM7 first and then one of the ICS custom roms.

loonieryan said:
Interesting, thanks for sharing your experience. I might go ahead and try flashing CM7 first and then one of the ICS custom roms.
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No problem. Good luck!
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actually it used to be part of the instructions to flash CM7 first.
CM7 CM9 and ICS use a different partitioning table and call partitions by different names, CM7 used to be the only one, and has a conversion script.
now most of the more popular ICS base roms include the conversion script.
read the instructions for each ICS you look at.
some have no requirements but CWM, some require flashing CM7 or any other ICS rom first.
coming from pure stock froyo you want to flash a CWM3 kernel with odin, then reboot to recovery and flash the ICS rom off your sdcard.
read the how to flash captivate roms sticky, also found in my signature.

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[Q] Noob Question

Ok so I was looking into methods on how to speed up my captivate and OCLF came up. I did it and it worked great but as I read on , many said to not use it as it was outdated. Is there something similar that uses a faster file system that I can use? Stock 2.2, Rooted
Eh. Maybe...
If you want really fast speed and dont mind flashing, i would flash firefly 3.0, its pretty safe just make sure you have 100% charge when you do it. Then get the OC/UV kernal onix 2.0.5 and boot into recovery and change the file system to ext4...
Any questions? Make another post here i've already done this and can help you out.
I'm kind of hesitant on flashing a rom :/ is there any other way to do it?
Voodoo lagfix doesn't have a fix for froyo yet. Got any love for flashing a kernal?
The extisz Kernal would be for you It has the Voodoo Fixes and everything. You would just need to get the modded 3e recovery and then get CWM and flash the .zip you can download from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988805
You could always go back to JF6 and mod everything on it, and voodoo would work on that
OR you could just do OCLF its going to be a little increase, not much because the filesystem changes to ext2 not ext4, voodoo does ext4 which is faster
Search for any KB1 kernel in the Dev section. If you want you stay as true to stock as possible, use Supercurio's stock KB1 + Voodoo kernel. It's nothing fancy, but it works really well with stock KB1.
Existz's KB1 kernel is also good. Overstock KB1 1.3 is another.
Sorry for the really nooby question but what is a kernel? And if I flashed a rom or a kernel how would I get back to stock if I ever wanted to? Also does my data carry over from rom to rom?
BlackSideburns said:
Sorry for the really nooby question but what is a kernel? And if I flashed a rom or a kernel how would I get back to stock if I ever wanted to? Also does my data carry over from rom to rom?
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In short, the kernel is what talks to the phone and how fast it functions. If you flashed a ROM or kernel you could get back to stock by using the Odin one-click downloader, and yes your data carries over. You will not loose data unless the modem you are using for a paticular ROM is not very good in your area...which can also be swapped out for a better one.
But you should really read some of the helpful guides about flashing ROMs.. it will answer a lot of your questions, and future questions
Lol, he wasn't talking about internet data, yes your data can be backed up and restored rom to rom with an app called titanium backup.
studacris said:
Lol, he wasn't talking about internet data, yes your data can be backed up and restored rom to rom with an app called titanium backup.
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Lol.. oh yeah oops, haha I don't know why I was thinking that ..facepalm
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Oh, I see. Thanks. One last thing, what is the fastest rom for captivate while still keeping a nice and refined look? Also will by rogers boot up screen change to at&t?
BlackSideburns said:
Oh, I see. Thanks. One last thing, what is the fastest rom for captivate while still keeping a nice and refined look? Also will by rogers boot up screen change to at&t?
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Its all user preference. While I can say this is the fastest ROM my phone has ever run someone else could say the same about the ROM they are running. Best bet is to try them for yourself and make a decision based on what YOU like.
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A few questions.

So today my little bro asked me to root his Note and flash CM9 on it, but I came to a halt when I found out his current firmware with which the phone was delivered is on the "not directly rootable" list, which I take it can only be rooted by flashing an older firmware?
The kernel seems to be the N7000XXLC1 while the phone is N7000XXLB2. It came delivered with a Telia (Swedish carrier) ROM.
Is there some other way to root this phone other than switching to an older firmware? Some exploit or something? I'd hate to accidentally brick his phone considering it's but a few days old. The way of helping him would be:
1. Install CWM
2. Root and/or install custom ROM
Does the N7000 have some sort of bootloader to unlock, or a fastboot mode? Is it easy to accidentally brick it? I mean a deeper brick than just a system brick? You'd have eternal gratitude if you could pinpoint me to an easy way of doing this or if you could compose an easy guide. Duly note I have checked the two guides here but the first one is a root option for ICS firmwares and the other one involves flashing an older firmware with ODIN, one thing I don't actually wanna do, just yet.
I myself use a Galaxy Nexus so things work out completely different on the two with the Nexus being more of a developer's phone. My bro hates Gingerbread by now and the lame Touchwiz UI.
Go to development subforum and read dr ketans guide.
The safest is to revert back to older roms and root if you need it. Avoid cwm in ICS if you can.
Read, read, and read some more.
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praetorius said:
Go to development subforum and read dr ketans guide.
The safest is to revert back to older roms and root if you need it. Avoid cwm in ICS if you can.
Read, read, and read some more.
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I just want to get him CM9 in the easiest way possible. Why do you say I should avoid cwm in ICS?
There are many issues with bricking in ics kernels by doing factory restores or large data transfers.
To the best of my knowledge though, cm9 kernels are safe, as well as paranoid Android and a couple of others. There's a great thread about the dangers of ics somewhere.
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SpyderTracks said:
There are many issues with bricking in ics kernels by doing factory restores or large data transfers.
To the best of my knowledge though, cm9 kernels are safe, as well as paranoid Android and a couple of others. There's a great thread about the dangers of ics somewhere.
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Well his phone is currently running gingerbread and it looks like I'm gonna have to flash back to a rootable firmware. I managed to find a very easy to-do guide in my own language so now I think I'll manage it.
I'll install CM9 on his Note since I know he likes CM9 and the Cyanogenmod team is highly reliable. I'm not saying the other aren't, I'm merely saying that the ROMs by CM have always worked in some way.

[Q] Reverting to stock before upgrading to new ROM

Why do so many developers suggest to revert to stock ROM before flashing another ROM or a new version?
This is widely suggested and I see no reason for it.
Of course a re-format and all cache wipes are mandatory.
A ROM upgrading procedure is deleting everything as a first step, or?
What i reckon is JB custom Roms were mostly tested to be flashed coming from a previous Android system ICS (and of course ICS from GB). That's the reason why many users experience post installation problems like invalid IMEI and instabilities when flashing directly a JB Rom coming from a GB.
It's always best to follow the recommendation of Developers who built our custom Roms, they know better.
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GrippingSphere said:
What i reckon is JB custom Roms were mostly tested to be flashed coming from a previous Android system ICS (and of course ICS from GB). That's the reason why many users experience post installation problems like invalid IMEI and instabilities when flashing directly a JB Rom coming from a GB.
It's always best to follow the recommendation of Developers who built our custom Roms, they know better.
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The most common developer's advice is to first flash a stock GB rom and afterwards load a new JB ROM.
I still see no reason for it. Once a new ROM is flashed everything (what was before) is wiped, or?
The only reason I see is to make it safe for the ones which do not follow the fromat/delete all caches procedure...
Still silly to me....
tomsag said:
The most common developer's advice is to first flash a stock GB rom and afterwards load a new JB ROM.
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I've never seen this advice. Mostly it is the exact opposite, namely flashing CM9 first and then going to JB AFAIK.
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GrippingSphere said:
What i reckon is JB custom Roms were mostly tested to be flashed coming from a previous Android system ICS (and of course ICS from GB). That's the reason why many users experience post installation problems like invalid IMEI and instabilities when flashing directly a JB Rom coming from a GB.
It's always best to follow the recommendation of Developers who built our custom Roms, they know better.
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BlueFlame4 said:
I've never seen this advice. Mostly it is the exact opposite, namely flashing CM9 first and then going to JB AFAIK.
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Elitemovil reccomends this. I'm running this ROM and want to upgrade to new version with new Partition layout.
Anyway, we are loosing the point here - I still see no reason to make any "intermediate" steps before flashing the ROM which I want.
Anyone knows the answer wha there might be problems from swithching ROMs immediately?

[Q] Am just about to go from GB to JB-a little advice required

Hi there
I am fairly newish to rooting etc and have spent the last week trawling the P1000 forums to try and understand it all.
I would like to take my P1000 GSM TAB from my stock GB2.3.3 to JB4.x and from what i have seen although the CM9 is stable I am tempted to go for the CM10 nightly install. (Do they differ greatly? not sureeven after reading the forums)
I am not sure how much such an install would differ from the tweaked CM10 versions I also see on this dev forum from the likes of Erezax (Sapir), Cdesai and Alroger etc. Only in minor ways i suppose with the possibility of further undiscovered bugs.
So from what i can gather, the method would be similar to that laid down in the Overcome installation pdf.
My question though is do i need to go the whole hog and install the overcome kernal/rom prior to installing the CM10 or can i just go as far as installing the stock GBStockSafev5 (which i want to do just in case, even though i have a stock ver of GB already) and then do a wipe install of CM10?
I ask because i read that it was even safer to go from an overcome rom with GB to CM10, as opposed to going from stock GB to CM10. Is there any truth in this would u know.?
many thx in advance for any reply
best rgrds
Lawrence
No direct way from stock to cm10 because stock recovery doesn't flash non Samsung made zip.
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Lol u found my post. All good. Mission accomplished!
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Few questions, CWM Backup, Custom Stock, Gingerbread...

Hi All,
Slowly getting use to my Note, and totally loving it... Yes, I have joined this party very late... But trust me, this device is PREMIUM compared to my last phone... So enjoying all what it has to offer...
However....
1) Is there a way to check your backups in CWM?? Just did a backup of what has taken me 2x days to finely tune the ROM.. only to find it failed an MD5 check and so wont restore.... - POINTLESS backup
2) Is there any official Samsung Stock Roms (UK pref / International) that are converted/flashable via CWM?? (Dont mind if they are GB, ICS or JB) I will of course be using Philz Kernel if its ICS based....
3) Are there any CLEAN Gingerbread roms available, either based off official Samsung GB or if there was a clean CM7 build...??
Other than that, I think most things are cool with the N7000
Thank you, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
Slowly getting use to my Note, and totally loving it... Yes, I have joined this party very late... But trust me, this device is PREMIUM compared to my last phone... So enjoying all what it has to offer...
However....
1) Is there a way to check your backups in CWM?? Just did a backup of what has taken me 2x days to finely tune the ROM.. only to find it failed an MD5 check and so wont restore.... - POINTLESS backup
2) Is there any official Samsung Stock Roms (UK pref / International) that are converted/flashable via CWM?? (Dont mind if they are GB, ICS or JB) I will of course be using Philz Kernel if its ICS based....
3) Are there any CLEAN Gingerbread roms available, either based off official Samsung GB or if there was a clean CM7 build...??
Other than that, I think most things are cool with the N7000
Thank you, Lister
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1. Yes go to clockwork mod folder on SD card
2. Yes search for stock DEODEXED ROM
3. Yes search. No cm7 ever though. There is a thread that lists all roms.
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Hi AndroidSlave,
Thank you for your prompt answer(s).... Indeed it certainly was helpful for No2)
1:
However, not sure what you mean by going to the folder in CWM?? I was in CWM and started the backup, watched a bit of TV and came back to find the phone had rebooted, didnt tell me if it was successful or not, just ready to use phone again. Would of been nice if CWM had failed for it stay on that screen and show an error. I have since wiped the phone and now the backup is useless... All the files are there, and all 1.2Gb of data is present in seperate files. Not sure if I can flash them one at a time, although not a great way to restore...
2:
Brilliant, thank you... I had no idea that a DEODEXED rom was what I was after, and is indeed a Stock... I have got XXLSZ, is this the latest best one for this????
3:
I did find that thread already, but a lot of the Roms in there are tweaked and not clean/pure.... I wondered if there was a STOCK (DEODEXED) Gingerbread Rom that can be flashed in CWM, or if there was ever a build of CM7 for the N7000 note... As far I can see there is no CM7, which surprises me as the phone shipped with Gingerbread and the phone itself was considered premium at the time, so would of thought the CM team would of done one...??
But yeah, thank you for your help...
When installing a GB rom (beit Stock or AOSP) do I need to use a custom Kernel then, and if so, who???
Thanks, Lister
AndroidSlave said:
1. Yes go to clockwork mod folder on SD card
2. Yes search for stock DEODEXED ROM
3. Yes search. No cm7 ever though. There is a thread that lists all roms.
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Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi AndroidSlave,
Thank you for your prompt answer(s).... Indeed it certainly was helpful for No2)
1:
However, not sure what you mean by going to the folder in CWM?? I was in CWM and started the backup, watched a bit of TV and came back to find the phone had rebooted, didnt tell me if it was successful or not, just ready to use phone again. Would of been nice if CWM had failed for it stay on that screen and show an error. I have since wiped the phone and now the backup is useless... All the files are there, and all 1.2Gb of data is present in seperate files. Not sure if I can flash them one at a time, although not a great way to restore...
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sorry i misunderstood what you were asking. CWM should NOT automatically reboot, so to me that means you had an unsuccessful backup. It should at the end say something like backup complete... also, regarding a million files in blob folders for CWM, that is not the best format. in backup settings, change the format to "tar" not "dup"
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2:
Brilliant, thank you... I had no idea that a DEODEXED rom was what I was after, and is indeed a Stock... I have got XXLSZ, is this the latest best one for this????
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if you want the info, search for the difference b/t deodexed and odexed on google, its interesting..
But yeah LSZ is a little old (almost a year now).
I would go with something XXLT4, LT5, LT6, LT9, or LTA (in order of newest, but there have been no major changes since LT4, so LT4 is fine), if you can find one. be sure to always include /preload in your full wipe procedure when flashing stock roms.
Another option is to just flash a FULL stock ROM, then Flash PhilZ (PC Odin or Mobile Odin) - but beware using odin and not have all the knowledge puts you in the DANGER ZONE of killing your phone with the brick bug
Lister Of Smeg said:
3:
I did find that thread already, but a lot of the Roms in there are tweaked and not clean/pure.... I wondered if there was a STOCK (DEODEXED) Gingerbread Rom that can be flashed in CWM, or if there was ever a build of CM7 for the N7000 note... As far I can see there is no CM7, which surprises me as the phone shipped with Gingerbread and the phone itself was considered premium at the time, so would of thought the CM team would of done one...??
But yeah, thank you for your help...
When installing a GB rom (beit Stock or AOSP) do I need to use a custom Kernel then, and if so, who???
Thanks, Lister
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to Install GB via flashable zip, you can flash via Mobile Odin or CWM - or if the thread has special install instructions, follow those
this search string gets a few results
http://www.google.com/search?q=stoc...ad+n7000+site:forum.xda-developers.com&rls=en
As for CM7, they just never did it... CM9 was first.
Also, I know you're looking for stock stuff right now, but CM10.2 is a MAJOR upgrade from CM7. The official CM10.2 nightlies are pretty amazing.
But thats all opinion, the stock has a lot of cool features and benefits... just not for me (i used to love it, but its too bloated and slow)

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